The gross pictures these anti abortion people show off at our school is just nasty. These people aren’t in handcuffs? Do you have to take a brochure to get away from them? How can we make them go away? Just gross. And they shoot video the whole time.

Where is LB? I’ve seen them in falls church off route 29.

Lake Braddock Secondary School is in Burke. It’s the largest school in the Commonwealth. There are 7th graders there. Those abortion images are awful. I’m surprised some suburban mom hasn’t punched them in the face!

Thanks freakish people protesting. My kids are now pro choice because of how scary and freakish you were to them. Get away from little kids with your fake pictures. Happy Halloween?

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> Where is LB? I’ve seen them in falls church off route 29.

They are 'serving God' by picketing the Planned Parenthood facility there. They'd be better served of course by depositing themselves at the mental health facilities just a few mile west of there.

AntiGrossness Wrote:
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> The gross pictures these anti abortion people show
> off at our school is just nasty. These people
> aren’t in handcuffs? Do you have to take a
> brochure to get away from them? How can we make
> them go away? Just gross. And they shoot video the
> whole time.


If it is so nasty why is abortion legal?

Open heart surgery is nasty as well. But nasty or not, I don't believe they've yet invented an operation that could save you from your own douchebag stupidity.

Blood and gore Wrote:
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> Open heart surgery is nasty as well. But nasty or
> not, I don't believe they've yet invented an
> operation that could save you from your own
> douchebag stupidity.


Open heart surgery is done to save a life. Abortion is done to end a life.


 
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> Huh?. Wrote:
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> > Where is LB? I’ve seen them in falls church
> off route 29.
>
> They are 'serving God' by picketing the Planned
> Parenthood facility there. They'd be better
> served of course by depositing themselves at the
> mental health facilities just a few mile west of
> there.


Oh, I see, anybody who doesn't agree with a liberal is a mentalcase. Ya' know, that's how the Soviets used to do business.

If libs don't like something, they should picket, but if anyone who doesn't agree with libs doesn't like something, if he says so in public, he's supposed to go to the booby hatch, huh? More liberal hypocrisy and double standards.


And you wonder why we REAL AMERICANS want to deport your America hating asses?

Hyper-emotional lib tears Wrote:
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> Open heart surgery is done to save a life.
> Abortion is done to end a life.

To the same extent as cleaning polyps out of your intestine during a routine colonoscopy. Only duped and brainwashed members of the "Cult of the Fetus" can manage to post shit as dumb as what you just did.

Serving god? Catholic Priests also serve God and we know how that turned out.

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> Hyper-emotional lib tears Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Open heart surgery is done to save a life.
> > Abortion is done to end a life.
>
> To the same extent as cleaning polyps out of your
> intestine during a routine colonoscopy. Only
> duped and brainwashed members of the "Cult of the
> Fetus" can manage to post shit as dumb as what you
> just did.


Written by a member of the Cult of Death. polyp is to fetus as match is to star. Sorry, you are too indoctrinated to understand, too soulless to see the truth, and too irrational to engage in further. NEXT!!!!!

^^^ Stupid douche. A polyp is a mass of living human cells. Just like a fetus. If neither was invited in by the owner, either can be forced to butt the hell out.

^^^ brain dead death worshiper. A match is a source of light, heat and energy, just like a star. Your polyp = fetus comparison is just as lame. Sorry, but you've proven too dense to have anything to do with regarding killing unborn babies. Maybe you're smarter in other areas though, so don't give up. NEXT!!!

A stupid shit by any other name is still a stupid shit. Wear it, stupid shit. Your mystical, magical thinking gets you nothing but the booby prize of a nice 'Stupid Shit' label to wear.

As above you have to throw up your hands and run away over the polyp thing. After all, a fetus has nothing over a polyp, so you are stuck with running away as a plan. That's part of what makes you a stupid shit.

Wake up call Wrote:
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> A stupid shit by any other name is still a stupid
> shit. Wear it, stupid shit. Your mystical,
> magical thinking gets you nothing but the booby
> prize of a nice 'Stupid Shit' label to wear.
>
> As above you have to throw up your hands and run
> away over the polyp thing. After all, a fetus has
> nothing over a polyp, so you are stuck with
> running away as a plan. That's part of what makes
> you a stupid shit.


A nasty libSTAIN turd burglar is STILL a nasty libSTAIN turd burglar, even if you call him an obnoxious, delusional left wing butt pirate. Too bad for you you're both. One reason people don't like rump rangers is because of nasty little ones like you. A fucking douchebag starfish licker.

Pointer outer of things Wrote:
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> A nasty libSTAIN turd burglar is STILL a nasty
> libSTAIN turd burglar, even if you call him an
> obnoxious, delusional left wing butt pirate. Too
> bad for you you're both. One reason people don't
> like rump rangers is because of nasty little ones
> like you. A fucking douchebag starfish licker.

LOL! See how totally fucked up and ineffective you are? Does it hurt much to be THAT stupid?

REMINDER: A polyp is a mass of living human cells. Just like a fetus. If neither was invited in by the owner, either can be forced to butt the hell out.

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> Pointer outer of things Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A nasty libSTAIN turd burglar is STILL a nasty
> > libSTAIN turd burglar, even if you call him an
> > obnoxious, delusional left wing butt pirate.
> Too
> > bad for you you're both. One reason people
> don't
> > like rump rangers is because of nasty little
> ones
> > like you. A fucking douchebag starfish licker.
>
> LOL! See how totally fucked up and ineffective
> you are? Does it hurt much to be THAT stupid?
>
> REMINDER: A polyp is a mass of living human cells.
> Just like a fetus. If neither was invited in by
> the owner, either can be forced to butt the hell
> out.


See how nasty, messed in the head and head up the ass you are? You know, your BF's gonna get jealous if you have something up your nasty little ass besides his dick. Shut the fuck up, nasty little turd borglar. Nobody with any brains wants to hear from your sorry ass.

Go fuck yourself, you pathetic loser-ass dipshit. Should tried fourth grade a third time. Then you might have known that polyps are important. Stupid douche.

> Oh, I see, anybody who doesn't agree with a
> liberal is a mentalcase. Ya' know, that's how the
> Soviets used to do business.
>
> If libs don't like something, they should picket,
> but if anyone who doesn't agree with libs doesn't
> like something, if he says so in public, he's
> supposed to go to the booby hatch, huh? More
> liberal hypocrisy and double standards.
>
>
> And you wonder why we REAL AMERICANS want to
> deport your America hating asses?

So protest is fine when its conservatives harassing women who are considering abortions, but it is unacceptable when it is directed at conservatives. You are not arguing for your right to live as you believe. You are arguing for your right to force others to live as you believe.

If you don't believe people should have premarital sex then don't have premarital sex. If you are a woman and don't believe women should get abortions then don't have an abortion. If you don't believe people should marry someone the same gender as themselves then don't enter into a homosexual marriage.

^^^ That will go right over a lot of heads here.

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> Pointer outer of things Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A nasty libSTAIN turd burglar is STILL a nasty
> > libSTAIN turd burglar, even if you call him an
> > obnoxious, delusional left wing butt pirate.
> Too
> > bad for you you're both. One reason people
> don't
> > like rump rangers is because of nasty little
> ones
> > like you. A fucking douchebag starfish licker.
>
> LOL! See how totally fucked up and ineffective
> you are? Does it hurt much to be THAT stupid?
>
> REMINDER: A polyp is a mass of living human cells.
> Just like a fetus. If neither was invited in by
> the owner, either can be forced to butt the hell
> out.


Still bullshit.

Wake up call Wrote:
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> A stupid shit by any other name is still a stupid
> shit. Wear it, stupid shit. Your mystical,
> magical thinking gets you nothing but the booby
> prize of a nice 'Stupid Shit' label to wear.
>
> As above you have to throw up your hands and run
> away over the polyp thing. After all, a fetus has
> nothing over a polyp, so you are stuck with
> running away as a plan. That's part of what makes
> you a stupid shit.


No silly. A fetus is a unborn baby up to the minute before birth. So a fetus is not just a polyp. But your obvious ignorance of these things gets proven over and over again with your every post, so please keep demonstrating that for us.

Right back at you Wrote:
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> > Oh, I see, anybody who doesn't agree with a
> > liberal is a mentalcase. Ya' know, that's how
> the
> > Soviets used to do business.
> >
> > If libs don't like something, they should
> picket,
> > but if anyone who doesn't agree with libs
> doesn't
> > like something, if he says so in public, he's
> > supposed to go to the booby hatch, huh? More
> > liberal hypocrisy and double standards.
> >
> >
> > And you wonder why we REAL AMERICANS want to
> > deport your America hating asses?
>
> So protest is fine when its conservatives
> harassing women who are considering abortions, but
> it is unacceptable when it is directed at
> conservatives. You are not arguing for your right
> to live as you believe. You are arguing for your
> right to force others to live as you believe.
>
> If you don't believe people should have premarital
> sex then don't have premarital sex. If you are a
> woman and don't believe women should get abortions
> then don't have an abortion. If you don't believe
> people should marry someone the same gender as
> themselves then don't enter into a homosexual
> marriage.


Not quite pappy. You're not asking people to just 'not do it'. You asking them to accept it. That's OK if it's things like what ice cream should be served in the school cafeteria. But when it comes to accepting that the consequences of others leads to killing, that's where the line is way more than just crossed. Just because YOU don't believe an unborn baby isn't a human life doesn't make it so. By your (wrapped, pretzel) logic, if my society is killing Jews and I'm against that, then I just shouldn't kill Jews. Or if I'm against slavery but my country has a robust slave trade, I just shouldn't own a slave.

Keep trying old man. One day, when all your arguments are shown to be the empty shells that they are, you'll see the light.

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> ^^^ That will go right over a lot of heads here.


^^^^^ more like straight down the toilet of lazy thinking and an great example of at least 3 logical fallacies.

You primitives are so unbridled in your ignorance.

The issue isn’t about abortion being right or wrong. Stop for a minute and process these protestors and these children.

How about the creepy people yelling horrible things and showing bloody images, leave 11 and 12 year olds alone!

That school is middle and high school, isn’t it? By doing what those activists do, they’re turning innocent children against what they’re trying to promote! The kids coming through that group of adults yelling and shoving gross images in their young faces are turning pro-choice as a result.

I’m anti abortion but I’m also anti approach my daughter without my permission. Post her on YouTube and see my attorney headed your way.

What’s so idiotic to me is that many people have children who walk home from school to an empty house. Parents get home to questions and those flyers. It’s not okay and stay at home moms will be outraged when they show up again!

Nothingness of Thought Wrote:
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>
> Not quite pappy. You're not asking people to just
> 'not do it'. You asking them to accept it.

That same argument is OK with you because it is your moral code being imposed on others. It is the same argument used to justify capital punishment for blasphemy or the destruction of priceless historical monuments by ISIS. It doesn't look the same when someone else is imposing their moral code on you, but both have their underpinnings in the argument that merely accepting is unacceptable.

> Just because YOU
> don't believe an unborn baby isn't a human life
> doesn't make it so.

Just because YOU believe it is a SEPARATE human life doesn't make it so. Humans are not like chickens. They don't have the ability to survive independent from the mother until at least half way through the pregnancy. During the early stages of pregnancy there is not a separate life but instead only the POTENTIAL for a separate life. That is the same potential that exists from the moment a woman ovulates. So be truthful. Your real beef with abortion is a belief that a human pregnancy is a sacred gift from Yahweh and not simply the biological event it is for the rest of the animal kingdom.

Paps out.

Gotta love the duplicity of the bronze age fairy tale set (AKA religious), anti-choice, and anti-Obamacare

What a bunch of silly hypocrites...


Tell me what laws would be passed to prevent women from leaving the country for abortions?

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> Go fuck yourself, you pathetic loser-ass dipshit.
> Should tried fourth grade a third time. Then you
> might have known that polyps are important.
> Stupid douche.


Shove it up your AIDS infested ass, you useless butt pirate. Your sorry ass got stuck in 2nd grade and they had to kick you out of elem. school at 15 b/c you just couldn't hack it. nobody with any brains wants to buy the rump ranger BS you're selling, so shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down, nasty ass pickle smoker.

Silly Bronze Age Fairy Tales Wrote:
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> Gotta love the duplicstupidity of the bronze age fairy
> taleAmerica hating set (AKA religiouliberls), anti-choicelife, and
> anti-Obamareal health care.
>
> What a bunch of silly hypocrites...
>
>
> Tell me why my sorry pole smoking ass is an arugment at laws would be passed to prevent women
> from leaving the country for abortions?


FIFY

^^^^ Typical bullshit from the bronze-age fairy-tale set, attack the messenger when you have no counter argument or facts... sad & pathetic.

Again, what laws would you pass to prevent women from leaving the country for abortions?

Silly Bronze Age Fairy Tales Wrote:
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> Gotta love the duplicity of the bronze age fairy
> tale set (AKA religious), anti-choice, and anti-Obamacare
>
> What a bunch of silly hypocrites...
>
> Tell me what laws would be passed to prevent women
> from leaving the country for abortions?

Listen up junior Wrote:
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> Nothingness of Thought Wrote:
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> -----
> >
> > Not quite pappy. You're not asking people to
> just
> > 'not do it'. You asking them to accept it.
>
> That same argument is OK with you because it is
> your moral code being imposed on others. It is
> the same argument used to justify capital
> punishment for blasphemy or the destruction of
> priceless historical monuments by ISIS. It
> doesn't look the same when someone else is
> imposing their moral code on you, but both have
> their underpinnings in the argument that merely
> accepting is unacceptable.
>
> > Just because YOU
> > don't believe an unborn baby isn't a human life
> > doesn't make it so.
>
> Just because YOU believe it is a SEPARATE human
> life doesn't make it so. Humans are not like
> chickens. They don't have the ability to survive
> independent from the mother until at least half
> way through the pregnancy. During the early
> stages of pregnancy there is not a separate life
> but instead only the POTENTIAL for a separate
> life. That is the same potential that exists from
> the moment a woman ovulates. So be truthful.
> Your real beef with abortion is a belief that a
> human pregnancy is a sacred gift from Yahweh and
> not simply the biological event it is for the rest
> of the animal kingdom.
>
> Paps out.


Wrong again. Unlike liberals, normal people realize that there are absolute rights and wrongs. Killing innocents is always wrong. Treating people as property is always wrong. Trying to exterminate entire groups of people because you don't like their color or religion is always wrong.

I'm a well-grounded libertarian. This isn't a religious argument. Why are you trying to make it one? Let me answer that for you: the weakness of your position. Sorry, you're still losing this one badly baldy.

Shit those people really got to you baby killers didn't they.

Silly Bronze Age Fairy Tales Wrote:
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> ^^^^ Typical bullshit from moronic liberals like me the bronze-age
> I'm a pantyboy fairy-who lkes the BBC up his taile set attack the messenger when you I have
> no counter argument or facts... I'm sad & pathetic.
>
>



FIFY

Silly Bronze Age Fairy Tales Wrote:
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> attack the messenger when you have
> no counter argument or facts... sad & pathetic.
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >


^^^^says the nasty little panties wearing butt commando who calls everybody names when they don't agree with him.

Silly Bronze Age Fairy Tales Wrote:
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> ^^^^
>
> Again, what laws would you pass to prevent women
> from leaving the country for abortions?
>
> Silly Bronze Age Fairy Tales Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----


If someone wants to go get an abortion in another country, so be it. If they want to go get an abortion in another state that offers abortions, so be it. But the SCOTUS finding that there is a constitutional right to an abortion is worse than finding that there is a constitutional right to hair transplant surgery. It's horrible law. Leave it up to the states or local jurisdictions to decide. That's where it belongs.

There is still slavery in the world. If you want to own a slave, go to one of those places. But don't expect morally well-adjusted people or societies from embracing your believes and values. Most of us have evolved beyond that.

Pointer outer of things Wrote:
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> Shove it up your AIDS infested ass, you useless
> butt pirate. Your sorry ass got stuck in 2nd
> grade and they had to kick you out of elem. school
> at 15 b/c you just couldn't hack it. nobody with
> any brains wants to buy the rump ranger BS you're
> selling, so shut the fuck up and sit the fuck
> down, nasty ass pickle smoker.

I'll just point out that there are multiple degrees and honors on my CV. I am also straight, and my lifetime income to date is far, far larger than what yours will ever be. Low-brow losers after all tend to be ID'd fairly quickly and then just shoved to the side of the road like a flattened old Slurpee cup.

Circular Logic of Emotion Wrote:
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> Wrong again. Unlike liberals, normal people realize that
> there are absolute rights and wrongs.

No there are not. There is no place for these absolute super-morals to come from. Intellectual cowards will resort to some notion of a supreme being as the source, but a supreme being could command that we all go around burning little children with lit cigarettes. The response of course would be 'But he would never do that', a concession to that fact that the supposedly supreme being is somehow limited by some higher power than himself.

The simple facts here are that morals are defined by cultures that are made up of people, and that 'supreme' and other mystical beings (think Santa Claus) all adapt to reflect in a favorable light the cultures that they find themselves in. It's all fuzzy and variable from the get-go. Nothing could be further from absolute.

> I'm a well-grounded libertarian.

The 'well-grounded' part at least is fraudulent. You're far mote confused here than enlightened.

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> I'll just point out that there are multiple
> degreesconvictions and honorsjail sentences on my Criminal Record; Very many. I am also strgayight,
> and my lifetime income to date is far, far lowerarger
> than what yours will ever be. Low-brow losers like me
> after all tend to be ID'd fairly quickly and then
> just shoved to the side of the road like a
> flattened old Slurpee cup.


FIFY

What are Catholic nuns going to do with their unwanted babies if they outlaw abortion?

misfiring neurons Wrote:
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> If someone wants to go get an abortion in another country, so
> be it. If they want to go get an abortion in another state that
> offers abortions, so be it. But the SCOTUS finding that there
> is a constitutional right to an abortion is worse than finding
> that there is a constitutional right to hair transplant surgery.

Your right to elect hair transplant surgery is also protected by the Constitutional right to privacy. You cannot be forced to undergo the procedure, nor can you be prevented from having it. Except in ridiculous extremes that clowns will try to think up, you have personal autonomy in the matter of hair transplants.

> Leave it up to the states or local jurisdictions
> to decide. That's where it belongs.

LOL! Constitutional rights cannot be infringed upon by the mere acts of craven state or local majorities. These rights are simply off limits to such JUNIOR authorities.

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> Pointer outer of things Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Shove it up your AIDS infested ass, you useless
> > butt pirate. Your sorry ass got stuck in 2nd
> > grade and they had to kick you out of elem.
> school
> > at 15 b/c you just couldn't hack it. nobody
> with
> > any brains wants to buy the rump ranger BS
> you're
> > selling, so shut the fuck up and sit the fuck
> > down, nasty ass pickle smoker.
>
> I'll just point out that there are multiple
> degrees and honors on my CV. I am also straight,
> and my lifetime income to date is far, far larger
> than what yours will ever be. Low-brow losers
> after all tend to be ID'd fairly quickly and then
> just shoved to the side of the road like a
> flattened old Slurpee cup.


Everyone on the internet has fifty degrees from prestigious institutions and they graduated Summa from all of them. They have an income from the high six to middle seven. They own several expensive cars, including an overpriced Italian machine that spends more time in the shop than it does on the road, an overpriced German machine that when it breaks down spends 8 weeks in the shop waiting for parts (and yes, EVERYTHING mechanical eventually breaks down). They own a paid for home in an excusive 'hood, another one in an exclusive US resort area and a third one overseas and they're all paid for.

Everybody on the internet has a super model or A list actress wife or GF or a star athlete or a rock star husband or BF. They're on a first name basis with several high federal, state and local officials and a couple of federal, state and local judges to boot. They golf, play squash or racquetball with several Captains of Industry and have a black AmEx, too.


Yup, yup, yup, HUHHHHHHH-kayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Fixer of It for You Wrote:
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> FIFY

FYFY = ASSHOLE. A really big ASSHOLE.

Oh No Wrote:
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> What are Catholic nuns going to do with their
> unwanted babies if they outlaw abortion?


How many Catholic nuns do you know of who got knocked up, lately?

Ah always a hot topic.
But hey. Look on the bright side. You're here to talk about it.
Next mothers' day thank MOM for being Pro-Life while you when in HER WOMB!!!

Follow your mother's example.

BE PRO LIFE.
Amen and Amen.

Plain as day Wrote:
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> Fixer of It for You Wrote:
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> > FIFY
>
> FYFY = ASSHOLE. A really big ASSHOLE.


This guy keeps showing what a nasty little ignoramus butt pirate he really is. Everybody knows the type, a nasty butt commando who talks a load of shit, tries to loudtalk anybody who doesn't agree with him and calls out the everybody for the shit he does himself. A real rump ranger hypocrite buttwipe, this one.

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> misfiring neurons Wrote:
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> LOL! Constitutional rights cannot be infringed
> upon by the mere acts of craven state or local
> majorities. These rights are simply off limits to
> such JUNIOR authorities.


And remember the Right To Bear Arms can't be infringed on by JUNIOR AUTHORITIES like America hating liberals like you and the America hating liberals you support. It's a right guaranteed by the Constitution and the courts told a lot of liberals that all the time. You dumb ass liberals just don't get it, no means "no", you can't take away our guns.

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> I'll just point out that there are multiple
> degrees and honors on my CV. I am also straight,
> and my lifetime income to date is far, far larger
> than what yours will ever be. Low-brow losers
> after all tend to be ID'd fairly quickly and then
> just shoved to the side of the road like a
> flattened old Slurpee cup.


^^^^ written by Mike J. Smith, retired IRS Section Chief who lives inside the beltway and thinks his government retirement makes him a 1%er. Pity him, for he is a fool.

https://www.facebook.com/Mjsmith6445

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> misfiring neurons Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If someone wants to go get an abortion in
> another country, so
> > be it. If they want to go get an abortion in
> another state that
> > offers abortions, so be it. But the SCOTUS
> finding that there
> > is a constitutional right to an abortion is
> worse than finding
> > that there is a constitutional right to hair
> transplant surgery.
>
> Your right to elect hair transplant surgery is
> also protected by the Constitutional right to
> privacy. You cannot be forced to undergo the
> procedure, nor can you be prevented from having
> it. Except in ridiculous extremes that clowns
> will try to think up, you have personal autonomy
> in the matter of hair transplants.
>
> > Leave it up to the states or local
> jurisdictions
> > to decide. That's where it belongs.
>
> LOL! Constitutional rights cannot be infringed
> upon by the mere acts of craven state or local
> majorities. These rights are simply off limits to
> such JUNIOR authorities.


Except that abortion is killing another human and hair transplant surgery isn't. That's why the abortion decision by the SCOTUS was, as I wrote, worse. Try and keep up old man.

And I'm sure you'll happily agree that whatever the new Trump SCOTUS decides is also enshrined in indisputable "rights". Finding the right to an abortion in the 14th was horrible law. That's why it will be redressed in a future SCOTUS decision. Little by little, a constitutional right to an abortion will be overturned. America will be better off for it in the end.

Asker of questions Wrote:
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> Oh No Wrote:
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> > What are Catholic nuns going to do with their
> > unwanted babies if they outlaw abortion?
>
>
> How many Catholic nuns do you know of who got
> knocked up, lately?


Abortion is still legal. How would we know?

Oh No Wrote:
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> Asker of questions Wrote:
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> > Oh No Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > What are Catholic nuns going to do with their
> > > unwanted babies if they outlaw abortion?
> >
> >
> > How many Catholic nuns do you know of who got
> > knocked up, lately?
>
>
> Abortion is still legal. How would we know?


Answer the question: do you know, or know of, any Catholic nuns who got knocked up, lately?

Libs <3 judges legislating Wrote:
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> Except that abortion is killing another human and
> hair transplant surgery isn't.

That's half right and half ridiculous. The point that both elective hair transplants and elective abortions are in fact protects by the same Constitutional provisions clearly stands. You are just too reduced to little bits and pieces to face up to the fact.

> And I'm sure you'll happily agree that whatever
> the new Trump SCOTUS decides is also enshrined in
> indisputable "rights". Finding the right to an
> abortion in the 14th was horrible law. That's why
> it will be redressed in a future SCOTUS decision.
> Little by little, a constitutional right to an
> abortion will be overturned. America will be
> better off for it in the end.

Just as with medical science, you don't know one fucking thing about the law. You are just a useless mental defective on both counts. You get all pumped full of goober nonsense and bullshit at your trained-seal feeder stations and then run off to babble about it at FFXU. You are just another worthless right-wing ass-clown.

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> Libs <3 judges legislating Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Except that abortion is killing another human
> and
> > hair transplant surgery isn't.
>
> That's half right and half ridiculous. The point
> that both elective hair transplants and elective
> abortions are in fact protects by the same
> Constitutional provisions clearly stands. You are
> just too reduced to little bits and pieces to face
> up to the fact.
>
> > And I'm sure you'll happily agree that whatever
> > the new Trump SCOTUS decides is also enshrined
> in
> > indisputable "rights". Finding the right to an
> > abortion in the 14th was horrible law. That's
> why
> > it will be redressed in a future SCOTUS
> decision.
> > Little by little, a constitutional right to an
> > abortion will be overturned. America will be
> > better off for it in the end.
>
> Just as with medical science, youI don't know one
> fucking thing about the law. YouI amre just a
> useless mental defective on both counts. YouI get
> all pumped full of goober libTARDnonsense and bullshit at
> myourDNC trained-seal feeder stations and then run off
> to babble about it at FFXU. YouI amre just another
> worthless righleft-wing ass-clown.


FIFY

Circular Logic of Emotion Wrote:
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> Wrong again. Unlike liberals, normal people
> realize that there are absolute rights and wrongs.

I cannot think of a better user name for you than the one you have chosen. Your entire argument is a circular one built on emotion.

Don't you think those in Pakistan who are protesting demanding the death sentence on a woman for blasphemy be carried out think they are "normal"? Don't you think they "realize" that blasphemy of the prophet is a matter of absolute right and wrong? It is only when we move away from their faith and reconsider and challenge their truths and concepts of morality that what appears to them the clearly correct thing to do is wrong.

You are doing the same thing. You are demanding that any discussion on the morality of abortion must be based on your truths and your moral code. You demand that distinctions which you recognize must be recognized by everyone and distinctions which you do not recognize must be rejected by everyone. Science can be considered when it supports your position but not when it does not. Sorry but I am not going to play by those rules.

Answerer of Questions Wrote:
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> Circular Logic of Emotion Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wrong again. Unlike liberals, normal people
> > realize that there are absolute rights and
> wrongs.
>
> I cannot think of a better user name for you than
> the one you have chosen. Your entire argument is
> a circular one built on emotion.
>
> Don't you think those in Pakistan who are
> protesting demanding the death sentence on a woman
> for blasphemy be carried out think they are
> "normal"? Don't you think they "realize" that
> blasphemy of the prophet is a matter of absolute
> right and wrong? It is only when we move away
> from their faith and reconsider and challenge
> their truths and concepts of morality that what
> appears to them the clearly correct thing to do is
> wrong.
>
> You are doing the same thing. You are demanding
> that any discussion on the morality of abortion
> must be based on your truths and your moral code.
> You demand that distinctions which you recognize
> must be recognized by everyone and distinctions
> which you do not recognize must be rejected by
> everyone. Science can be considered when it
> supports your position but not when it does not.
> Sorry but I am not going to play by those rules.



Way off old man. You set up strawmen and then argue with yourself. There are absolute rights and wrongs. Slavery is one of them. Killing innocents is another. The fact that you have to, ONCE AGAIN, try and insert some kind of religious non sequitur into your lame defense of abortion just further demonstrates that you are losing. Badly. NEXT!!!!

Fixer of It for You Wrote:
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> FIFY

FIFY = ASSHOLE. A really big and pathetically ignorant ASSHOLE.

You lost again. Wrote:
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> There are absolute rights and wrongs. Slavery is one of them.
> Killing innocents is another.

Once again for the feeble-minded, there is no such thing as an absolute right or wrong. All of morality comes exclusively from MAN, and its terms can vary greatly from time to time and place to place. Any notion of absolutism is a fraud designed to draw in the debilitatingly ignorant.

Tell me what laws would be passed to prevent women from leaving the country for abortions?

How would yo enforce those laws?

I bet it would be the same ways that laws against going to Sweden for an abortion were enforced in the days before Roe v Wade. Rich women and their daughters could avail themselves of clean, safe, and effective abortions, but nobody else could. It's the American Way, after all.

Still Waiting... Wrote:
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> Tell me what laws would be passed to prevent women
> from leaving the country for abortions?
>
> How would yo enforce those laws?


None. Just like there are none to prevent people from doing other things that don't align with US law while in another country under its law. It's a dumb point. Move on.

Trump is pro choice too, he just hides it to get cuckservatives to vote for him. I say we double the amount of planned parenthood centers, we need these nigs and spics on contraceptives or not having more kids.

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> You lost again. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There are absolute rights and wrongs. Slavery
> is one of them.
> > Killing innocents is another.
>
> Once again for the feeble-minded, there is no such
> thing as an absolute right or wrong. All of
> morality comes exclusively from MAN, and its terms
> can vary greatly from time to time and place to
> place. Any notion of absolutism is a fraud
> designed to draw in the debilitatingly ignorant.


And this, in a nutshell, is the problem with liberals. Our rights are not absolute. They come from the government and are whatever the government says they are. If society decides it's OK to kill Jews, then it's OK to kill Jews. In fact, it's right to kill Jews. And thus, the NAZI's kill millions of Jews while their society nodded. My gosh you people are disgusting and truly rotten from the core out.

Keep waiting... Wrote:
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>
> None. Just like there are none to prevent people
> from doing other things that don't align with US
> law while in another country under its law. It's
> a dumb point. Move on.


He can't move on. He clings to one or two silly non sequiturs and when they get answered or refuted, he goes back to the first one. It's his way and he's done it in dozens of threads. But he's old and will die off soon enough.

^^^ I’m a conservative, and couldn’t disagree more with the above poster. Our rights DO NOT come from the government, period.

You have no problem drawing on your own religious convictions. "Murder" and "killing of innocents" are not FACTS. They are conclusions. Your entire argument is built on the religious belief that at the moment when the sperm fertilizes the egg what you have is a separate human life entitled to the full protections of the laws. That is a concept not recognized in the Common Law at the founding of this country. It is a concept that is not based on science. To someone who does not accept your religious belief that a fertilized egg is a separate human life entitled to the full protection of the laws, abortion is neither murder nor the killing of innocents.

You keep throwing around universal concepts of wrong. What makes those things wrong is the universality of the belief they are wrong. In the mid 19th century there was no universal belief that slavery was wrong. It had existed for thousands of years and had been tolerated by a number of religions. That's why we had to wage a bloody four year civil war. That is why the British Empire devoted significant resources to shut it down.

MAGA 2020 Wrote:
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> Trump is pro choice too, he just hides it to get
> cuckservatives to vote for him. I say we double
> the amount of planned parenthood centers, we need
> these nigs and spics on contraceptives or not
> having more kids.


Doesn't matter what his personal opinion of abortion is. He's stacking the courts with strict constitutionalists. They are the ones who will fix our abortion mess, not Trump.

Sorry, but you’re wrong. Wrote:
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> ^^^ I’m a conservative, and couldn’t disagree
> more with the above poster. Our rights DO NOT
> come from the government, period.


No, that's what liberals think. Not me. You have to read the thread to understand. And the example of killing Jews should have clued you in.

It’s the only place they CAN come from. There is nobody else here but us.

Still talking to a circle Wrote:
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> You have no problem drawing on your own religious
> convictions. "Murder" and "killing of innocents"
> are not FACTS. They are conclusions. Your entire
> argument is built on the religious belief that at
> the moment when the sperm fertilizes the egg what
> you have is a separate human life entitled to the
> full protections of the laws. That is a concept
> not recognized in the Common Law at the founding
> of this country. It is a concept that is not
> based on science. To someone who does not accept
> your religious belief that a fertilized egg is a
> separate human life entitled to the full
> protection of the laws, abortion is neither murder
> nor the killing of innocents.
>
> You keep throwing around universal concepts of
> wrong. What makes those things wrong is the
> universality of the belief they are wrong. In the
> mid 19th century there was no universal belief
> that slavery was wrong. It had existed for
> thousands of years and had been tolerated by a
> number of religions. That's why we had to wage a
> bloody four year civil war. That is why the
> British Empire devoted significant resources to
> shut it down.


I haven't mentioned religion once grandpappy. Stop arguing with yourself about religion. Sorry, you're flailing like a drowning baboon here.

MAGA 2020 Wrote:
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> Trump is pro choice too, he just hides it to get
> cuckservatives to vote for him. I say we double
> the amount of planned parenthood centers, we need
> these nigs and spics on contraceptives or not
> having more kids.

LOL! Black and hispanic fertility rates have been falling even faster than those for whites. The ‘breed like rabbits’ meme is just another way you dopes have been snookered by the puppet-masters.

Osmium Wrote:
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> I haven't mentioned religion once grandpappy.
> Stop arguing with yourself about religion. Sorry,
> you're flailing like a drowning baboon here.


It's a tenet of his own religion.

Wake up, Little Susie Wrote:
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> It’s the only place they CAN come from. There is
> nobody else here but us.


Incorrect. There are things that are always wrong, whether man or the universe say are or not. Only the morally deficient could not see something so basic.

OK. So let's assume you are not acting on a religious belief. What is the basis for your belief that abortion constitutes murder or the killing of innocents?

Lost at sea Wrote:
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> MAGA 2020 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Trump is pro choice too, he just hides it to
> get
> > cuckservatives to vote for him. I say we double
> > the amount of planned parenthood centers, we
> need
> > these nigs and spics on contraceptives or not
> > having more kids.
>
> LOL! Black and hispanic fertility rates have been
> falling even faster than those for whites. The
> ‘breed like rabbits’ meme is just another way
> you dopes have been snookered by the
> puppet-masters.


The CHANGE in rate may have declined more from much higher values to begin with. The rate itself remains much higher.

You don’t have to mention religion to be connected to it. When all of your arguments lack any basis in legal or scientific sources while comporting perfectly with fundie nonsense sources, your goose is pretty much cooked.

Giving U benefit of doubt Wrote:
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> OK. So let's assume you are not acting on a
> religious belief. What is the basis for your
> belief that abortion constitutes murder or the
> killing of innocents?


An abortion of a fetus can occur up to the day before birth. That is morally indefensible. Killing a fetus when it can feel and process pain is indefensible. Taking a life against the will of the victim is murder. At what point does your lame polyp = fetus fall apart? 20 weeks? 25? 40? 2 years after birth? You stand on a shrinking iceberg of morality and logic.

And Roe is still horrible law regardless of 'abortion is murder'. That will be fixed within my lifetime. Maybe not yours though pops.

Honk, honk... Wrote:
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> You don’t have to mention religion to be
> connected to it. When all of your arguments lack
> any basis in legal or scientific sources while
> comporting perfectly with fundie nonsense sources,
> your goose is pretty much cooked.


Yeah, you're arguing that NAZI's killing Jews is OK because Germany said it was OK, but you're the logical one. lol

Under what circumstances are third trimester abortions permitted under current law, you worthless lying asshole? The death of the fetus would be one. Can you name another?

The polyp/fetus identity meanwhile ends when one or the other becomes viable. So now post some of your dipshit misinformation about viability. God, but you’re DUMB!

Honk, honk Wrote:
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> Under what circumstances are third trimester
> abortions permitted under current law, you
> worthless lying asshole? The death of the fetus
> would be one. Can you name another?
>
> The polyp/fetus identity meanwhile ends when one
> or the other becomes viable. So now post some of
> your dipshit misinformation about viability. God,
> but you’re DUMB!


Obviously false and your dumb polyp nonsense is what's not based in science. Even in the liberal Mecca of CA fetal homicide law recognizes much earlier individual existence than you would consider 'viable.'

"OK. So let's assume you are not acting on a religious belief. What is the basis for your belief that abortion constitutes 'murder" or the "killing of innocents"?"

Still Waiting Wrote:
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> "OK. So let's assume you are not acting on a
> religious belief. What is the basis for your
> belief that abortion constitutes 'murder" or the
> "killing of innocents"?"


Answered at 2:22 and you already (lamely) responded. At least you now admit that the right to an abortion is not absolute and that your stupid polyp nonsense loses whatever credibility the braindead might have assigned it at viability (currently at 21 weeks). You're slowly moving towards enlightenment. Maybe you reach it before the big one hits you old man. Just maybe.

Was dumb, still dumb Wrote:
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> Obviously false and your dumb polyp nonsense is
> what's not based in science.

LOL! So what’s your polyp theory? Give us a laugh!

> Even in the liberal Mecca of CA fetal homicide law
> recognizes much earlier individual existence than
> you would consider 'viable.'

What a pathetic stooge! Fetal homicide laws have nothing to do with fetuses at all. They recognize and protect a woman’s property interest in her pregnancy. The woman herself (the person most likely to do a fetus harm) is excluded from coverage under such laws. So are her duly appointed agents.

You’ve lost track of the opposition.

Perry Mason Wrote:
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> Was dumb, still dumb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Obviously false and your dumb polyp nonsense is
> > what's not based in science.
>
> LOL! So what’s your polyp theory? Give us a
> laugh!

There is little to no equivalence between a polyp and a fetus. For one, a fetus has a genome that's distinct from that of the mother. A polyp does not. A fetus meets the biological criteria defining an organism. A polyp does not. A fetus has further ability to differentiate into a full separate living human organism. A polyp does not. Your dumb 'continuum' nonsense remains nonsense.

>
> > Even in the liberal Mecca of CA fetal homicide
> law
> > recognizes much earlier individual existence
> than
> > you would consider 'viable.'
>
> What a pathetic stooge! Fetal homicide laws have
> nothing to do with fetuses at all. They recognize
> and protect a woman’s property interest in her
> pregnancy. The woman herself (the person most
> likely to do a fetus harm) is excluded from
> coverage under such laws. So are her duly
> appointed agents.


That's false. It is not a property crime or civil action. The law specifically recognizes a fetus as an individual person with rights under the law and it is deemed criminal homicide. The law was specifically changed to include the word fetus to clarify the meaning of "human being" within the CA murder statute. In fact, often the mother does not survive the event and the crime is charged as a double murder. The law simply provides a specific exclusion for the mother and medical services providers from the charge of murder.

Crazy grandpa got loose again Wrote:
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> Honk, honk... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You don’t have to mention religion to be
> > connected to it. When all of your arguments
> lack
> > any basis in legal or scientific sources while
> > comporting perfectly with fundie nonsense
> sources,
> > your goose is pretty much cooked.
>
>
> Yeah, you're arguing that NAZI's killing Jews is
> OK because Germany said it was OK, but you're the
> logical one. lol


check and mate. did you plan to back him into that corner or did his lazy thinking and overinflated ego do him in? either way, well played.

Forget the abortion morality debate for a minute and focus back to the original post. Lake Braddock Secondary School has 11 and 12 year olds attending as well as kids with cognitive disabilities. This group is doing more harm than good by their tactics. They haven’t thought about this audience nor the trauma these kids have suffered the past few years. First Amendment, yes. How about have some respect for this population?

I was anti abortion but after seeing the harassment tactics of this group of scary and thoughtless people, maybe I change my mind. Get in the face of young school kids and show just how much of a nutcase our whole movement has become?

My kids were really upset when I got home. They are mad at the disregard for traumatizing the young people leaving school after a long day.

This was no way to spread the word of hope and life. If our young people can’t align themselves with pro life people, they become pro choice. Is that what this group intended?

Idiots!

My daughter didn’t know what an abortion was until this day, the day before Halloween. What made these people think it was okay to dress in all black the day before Halloween and put bloody images in her face and near a middle school?

Freedom of speech? What about just plain thoughtfulness. She’s a child!

"Taking a life against the will of the victim is murder" is not a basis for your position. It is as much a conclusion as saying "Abortion is murder". It does not indicate the scientific, legal, religious or philosophical basis for the position that what is being aborted, or to use your term murdered, is a separate human from the woman in whom it exists. It isn't necessary for purposes of debating whether what is in the woman is a separate human from the mother. However you insisted that you were not injecting religion into the argument so I wanted to give you a chance to offer another view.

You seem to be under the impression I am the only one arguing with you. There are several pro-choice posters on this topic judging from the posts. Don't assume all pro-choice posters share the same views.

Was dumb, still dumb...and wrong Wrote:
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> That's false. It is not a property crime or civil
> action. The law specifically recognizes a fetus
> as an individual person with rights under the law
> and it is deemed criminal homicide. The law was
> specifically changed to include the word fetus to
> clarify the meaning of "human being" within the CA
> murder statute. In fact, often the mother does
> not survive the event and the crime is charged as
> a double murder. The law simply provides a
> specific exclusion for the mother and medical
> services providers from the charge of murder.

Your post is deliberately dishonest, something we've come to expect from your corrupt side of the argument. California law uncontroversially borrows from federal law in defining a conceptus as a part of the species "homo sapiens." It does not however attach any rights at all to a fetus, and even if only vaguely, it excludes what would properly be called embryocide from coverage under laws on feticide. Oddly as well, there is no provision for such a thing as fetal manslaughter under Califinia law. Manslaughter can only occur with respect to actual people, and feticide can only be charged in the first degree. And of course, a woman's choice to undergo a fetus-destroying elective abortion is specifically excluded from both basic and enhanced criminal coverages. So much for an alleged elevation of legal interests in polyp-like entities.

Perry Mason Wrote:
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> Was dumb, still dumb...and wrong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That's false. It is not a property crime or
> civil
> > action. The law specifically recognizes a
> fetus
> > as an individual person with rights under the
> law
> > and it is deemed criminal homicide. The law
> was
> > specifically changed to include the word fetus
> to
> > clarify the meaning of "human being" within the
> CA
> > murder statute. In fact, often the mother does
> > not survive the event and the crime is charged
> as
> > a double murder. The law simply provides a
> > specific exclusion for the mother and medical
> > services providers from the charge of murder.
>
> Your post is deliberately dishonest, something
> we've come to expect from your corrupt side of the
> argument. California law uncontroversially
> borrows from federal law in defining a conceptus
> as a part of the species "homo sapiens." It does
> not however attach any rights at all to a fetus,
> and even if only vaguely, it excludes what would
> properly be called embryocide from coverage under
> laws on feticide. Oddly as well, there is no
> provision for such a thing as fetal manslaughter
> under Califinia law. Manslaughter can only occur
> with respect to actual people, and feticide can
> only be charged in the first degree. And of
> course, a woman's choice to undergo a
> fetus-destroying elective abortion is specifically
> excluded from both basic and enhanced criminal
> coverages. So much for an alleged elevation of
> legal interests in polyp-like entities.


Not at all dishonest. But what you wrote was. It's very clearly not a "property" issue as you weakly tried to claim. In contrast, everything that I wrote is exactly true. The law very obviously does recognize a fetus as an individual life and the law itself is evidence of legal rights extended to that life. Whether there is a separate manslaughter provision in the law is irrelevant (largely because it was adopted at the time to address a specific case of murder). Many women's advocacy groups argue that there should be for a variety of reasons independent of anything having to do with abortion. The existence of a specific exclusion to a specific charge of murder does not negate the basic legal recognition of a fetus as a human life. The fact of the matter is that CA law recognizes a 6-8 week old fetus as a human life.

Your retarded

Interlopers, beware Wrote:
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> Fixer of It for You Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FIFY
>
> FIFY = ASSHOLE. A really big and pathetically
> ignorant ASSHOLE. Living in my mind & not paying no rent


FIFY

We will have to given FIFY a break... poor little dude has never did it.
Taking his lack of insight & creativity out on other people's posts.

Baby killers are all butt hurt.

Was dumb, still dumb...and wrong Wrote:
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> Not at all dishonest. But what you wrote was.
> It's very clearly not a "property" issue as you
> weakly tried to claim. In contrast, everything
> that I wrote is exactly true. The law very
> obviously does recognize a fetus as an individual
> life and the law itself is evidence of legal
> rights extended to that life. Whether there is a
> separate manslaughter provision in the law is
> irrelevant (largely because it was adopted at the
> time to address a specific case of murder). Many
> women's advocacy groups argue that there should be
> for a variety of reasons independent of anything
> having to do with abortion. The existence of a
> specific exclusion to a specific charge of murder
> does not negate the basic legal recognition of a
> fetus as a human life. The fact of the matter is
> that CA law recognizes a 6-8 week old fetus as a
> human life.

Nothing but the same old already debunked bullshit. Can the mother of a fetus simply choose to extinguish it through otherwise legal abortion in California? Yes, of course she can. Because of her property interests in the pregnancy. The fetus has no rights or defense against her at all. So here's a tip. The best you can do here is to go back to your stupid seminary studies and stay away from the actual law that in desperation you can only LIE about.

Junior's not listening Wrote:
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> "Taking a life against the will of the victim is
> murder" is not a basis for your position. It is
> as much a conclusion as saying "Abortion is
> murder". It does not indicate the scientific,
> legal, religious or philosophical basis for the
> position that what is being aborted, or to use
> your term murdered, is a separate human from the
> woman in whom it exists. It isn't necessary for
> purposes of debating whether what is in the woman
> is a separate human from the mother. However you
> insisted that you were not injecting religion into
> the argument so I wanted to give you a chance to
> offer another view.
>
> You seem to be under the impression I am the only
> one arguing with you. There are several
> pro-choice posters on this topic judging from the
> posts. Don't assume all pro-choice posters share
> the same views.


Two facts:

What you posted above is 100% gobbledygook horseshit. It makes no point at all.

It doesn't matter if you are the only one defending abortion or if there are 100 posters on here defending it. All of you have done a piss poor job of stating your case. Take the idiot babbling about 'property rights' of a woman to have an abortion. Roe found a (invisible) right to privacy, not property rights.