I just got my new VA license in the mail. OMG it is ugliest thing I have seen. The little transparent clear picture it cool, but damn, the rest of it looks like it came out of 1920.

i like it. total throwback.

i hear the "walker IDs" are staying the same.

I see how it is more complicated to duplicate. The birth dates are raised lettering like credit card numbers. The birth date is also in a number of spots like on the back carved into the plastic covering.

However, I think with some work and practice a person could duplicate it.

My problem is the dumb cashiers that haven't learned about the new ones yet . . . even worse, try using that puppy out of state.

A related thread from September regarding whether there would be RFID or not

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read.php?2,241431,241754,quote=1

Yeah, I agree. It's odd-looking.
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Interesting this is they the VA ABC says you should spot a fake ID. I thought the A-ask section was clever.

F-L-A-G is a simple way to remember how to properly check IDs
F - Feel

* Have the customer remove the ID from their wallet or plastic holder. You may see another ID in their wallet.
* Feel for raised edges, glue lines or bumpy surfaces by the photo or birth date. Uneven surfaces often indicate tampering. Feel for cut-out or pasted information.
* Check the thickness of the ID. Check to see if it was re-laminated after changing some of the information.

L - Look

* Photograph - Does it look like the person in front of you? Hairstyles and makeup can change, so focus your attention on the person's eyes, nose and chin. When checking men with beards or mustaches, cover the facial hair portion of the photo and concentrate on the eyes, nose or ears.
* Height and weight - Do they reasonably match the person?
* State seal - Is it on the ID and is it in the correct place?
* Date of birth - Is the person old enough? Figure the math or look at the "Under 21 Until" portion of the ID.
* Age on ID vs. Appearance - Does the person in front of you match the age on the ID?
* Expiration date - Is the ID expired? Expired IDs are unacceptable.
* Lamination - Are the cuts or corners/edges straight or crooked?

A - Ask

* Ask for their middle name, zodiac sign or year of high school graduation. If someone has to think about his or her sign or when they graduated, the ID may be false.
* Ask the birth month. If the person responds with a number rather than the name of the month, they may be lying.
* If the customer is with a companion, ask the companion to quickly tell you the customer's name. Any hesitation may indicate deception.
* Ask the customer to sign his/her name and then compare the signatures to the ID. Sometimes if the ID is false, the customer will sign his or her true name, rather than the one on the ID.

G - Give Back

* Give the ID back to the customer and make the sale if the ID is valid.
* If the ID is fake or altered, you must return the ID.

^^ So even if the ID is fake you give it back?

Porksta Wrote:
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> ^^ So even if the ID is fake you give it back?

That's from the VA ABC. I guess a fake document is the property of the owner.

Lurker. Wrote:
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> Porksta Wrote:
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> > ^^ So even if the ID is fake you give it back?
>
> That's from the VA ABC. I guess a fake document
> is the property of the owner.

It has nothing to do with the license being the property of the owner. It is all about avoiding confrontation and the ABC store employee not being a law enforcement officer.

looks like a european id imo.

That sample license is clearly fake... Zip code 12345 is in New York.

Also, "Sample Police" is a pretty good ghetto name.

Anonymous Coward Wrote:
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> That sample license is clearly fake... Zip code
> 12345 is in New York.
>
> Also, "Sample Police" is a pretty good ghetto
> name.

Please contact me. The Wilson bridge has recently come out for sale. As you know the owner of the bridge receives millions each year tax revenue. I think you are the perfect person to purchase the bridge at a discount. It's a steal.

PS - Don't let anybody know you are being offered this great deal or everybody will want to buy the bridge.

Bridge Broker Wrote:
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> Please contact me. The Wilson bridge has recently
> come out for sale. As you know the owner of the
> bridge receives millions each year tax revenue. I
> think you are the perfect person to purchase the
> bridge at a discount. It's a steal.
>
> PS - Don't let anybody know you are being offered
> this great deal or everybody will want to buy the
> bridge.

Nice try. But everyone knows that the Wilson bridge is in Maryland and DC, not Fairfax County. Ergo you have been banned.

Furthermore, I am racially offended that not only does the DMV think that Mr Police's eyes are "Bro", but also they deem a black man to have no Class.

Anonymous Coward Wrote:
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> Bridge Broker Wrote:
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> > Please contact me. The Wilson bridge has
> recently
> > come out for sale. As you know the owner of
> the
> > bridge receives millions each year tax revenue.
> I
> > think you are the perfect person to purchase
> the
> > bridge at a discount. It's a steal.
> >
> > PS - Don't let anybody know you are being
> offered
> > this great deal or everybody will want to buy
> the
> > bridge.
>
> Nice try. But everyone knows that the Wilson
> bridge is in Maryland and DC, not Fairfax County.
> Ergo you have been banned.

WTF r u talking about? Woodrow wilson bridge dumps out in Alexandria...thats VA not dc... md and vdot paid for it to be built w/ taxpayer and fed money...what the fuck are u on?

> Nice try. But everyone knows that the Wilson
> bridge is in Maryland and DC, not Fairfax County.
> Ergo you have been banned.

Yeah man, you're a fucking moron.

Yes but it is owned by MD and DC not VA

RU OLD ENOUGH? I can only assume this PSA is for people who cannot spell . . .

I've never understood the "We card anyone under 30" signs. The oldest you need to be to buy anything is 21, but if they can't visually tell if you're 21, how do they expect to visually tell if you're 30?

boredom Wrote:
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> I've never understood the "We card anyone under
> 30" signs. The oldest you need to be to buy
> anything is 21, but if they can't visually tell if
> you're 21, how do they expect to visually tell if
> you're 30?


It is just a phrase meaning that if you look young they will ID you.

Anyone else see the signs in 7-11 with the little kid wearing the bushy moustache? Makes me giggle.

It's a phrase that makes no sense. Just say, "We ID everyone"

I'm going to name my kid "Sample Police" just to fuck ith them

Thank our Saudi friends who put planes into buildings with their VA licenses for this shit.

Thanks for rekindling a 5 year old thread so everyone thinks VA is redoing their licenses again.

They had VA licenses???!!!

kmH9w Wrote:
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> I'm going to name my kid "Sample Police" just to
> fuck ith them

A buddy of mine has a vanity plate that reads "NONE" so, anytime he's summoned to court on a traffic violation and the judge reads on his citation that he has no license plate because the officer has written the word none, he gets an additional charge.

http://www.rense.com/general57/RFIDtrackingdevicestogo.htm

They are already putting them in clothing (sewn in). Now for these to be useful to them, there would have to be a satellite network dedicqted to picking up these things, especially if they put micro or nano-sized transmitters inside the chip that is hidden in the clothes. Are they just interested in where their high-end clothing wanders over the earth and neighborhoods, or are they collecting lifestyle info on the buyers and wearers so as to target them for advertising specifically tuned in to their wants and needs?

They already do this sort of profiling on the web from everywhere you click.