The nail is in the tread not the sidewall. Will it pass once it's plugged or does the tire have to be replaced?

Properly repaired - The inspector will never know the repair happened.

You will pass no problems with a plug.

That nail must have made a really tight seal if you haven't had to put air in it or noticed it's going flat. When you start having to put air in a tire frequently, it is time to get somebody too look at it. You can do it yourself with a spray bottle full of water and a jack. Just be careful if you use a regular tire jack and under no circumstances should you crawl under the car while it is on the tire jack.

Mr Rubber Wrote:
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> Properly repaired - The inspector will never know
> the repair happened.

He put a mark on the sidewall and circled the nail.

If I go back to the same place for the $1 reinspection, he'll know where to look and see a plug. I just wanted to know if a plug is grounds for failure.

Plug the tire ,wipe of the marks , switch the tire to another location Front right etc.
It he asks what happened to the marks, tell him you had a used tire replaced .

fc citizen Wrote:
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> Mr Rubber Wrote:
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> -----
> > Properly repaired - The inspector will never
> know
> > the repair happened.
>
> He put a mark on the sidewall and circled the
> nail.
>
> If I go back to the same place for the $1
> reinspection, he'll know where to look and see a
> plug. I just wanted to know if a plug is grounds
> for failure.

There is a small amount of tread on the sidewall. If the nail has punctured the tire in that area the tire is done and needs to be replaced.

If the nail is only in the tread, then it can be repaired properly, and will pass inspection.

Always have passed..Yes in the sidewall, or in the edge of the tread they wont sometimes if the tread is thin and a plug in in one of the tread depth grooves it wont..

By rights a tire is supposed to be demounted the inside, buffed, a hot patch installed.

Or was that for Bias Wall tires..45 years ago..?? LOL

DAJAX Ya Pal..Erase that crayon mark on the tire too..

Why didn't you ask the inspector if the tire could be repaired so your car can pass inspection?

Or did the inspector tell you the tire has a nail in the sidewall, and the tire is beyond repair?

Are you looking for someone to co-sign your bullshit?

Question 101 Wrote:
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> Why didn't you ask the inspector if the tire could
> be repaired so your car can pass inspection?
>
> Or did the inspector tell you the tire has a nail
> in the sidewall, and the tire is beyond repair?
>
> Are you looking for someone to co-sign your
> bullshit?

I dropped the car off at VA tire in Springfield and just dealt with the guy at the desk that handles the paperwork.

Who does sidewall repairs in Fairfax County?

I know it can be done, just some places won't do it.

Go to an auto parts store and buy the plug kit for $8 or so. Read directions and it only takes 10 min to plug it yourself. Also if you move the car so you can access the nail you don't even have to take the tire off.

Just go buy a new car.

national transportation safety administration

read the UPDATED ntsa guide on road safety / tire repairs

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the issue is: tire construction is now THINNER. it's changed and infact thinner. plugging and patching is likely still allowed HOWEVER DON'T think doing is is by the same old tools and methods that "used to work". i'm sure last time i checked that PATCHING, which was superior to plugging, became nearly illegal without proper information (that no-one has) and new tools.

the issue is: if china follows safety standards (would we know? they continually lie and even put usa labels on imports illegally)

plugs are not always allowed, it depends on damage style and placement.

the mechanic is expected to inform a person if a plug is temporary (if they need tires)

try removing the nail. It may not have even gone all the way through. Wouldn't hurt to try since it's already been rejected.

Why didn't you have inspection station plug the tire for $10?!?!? This way you'd pass you DUMBASSS!

Tommy Varlas Wrote:
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> Why didn't you have inspection station plug the
> tire for $10?!?!? This way you'd pass you
> DUMBASSS!

Because that's how they fuck you. They offer to replace burned out lights for $17 that cost $1.25 at Advance Auto.

Turns out nail was in the shoulder of the tread and not repairable. They quoted $850 for new set of 4 tires.

_OP_ Wrote:
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> Turns out nail was in the shoulder of the tread
> and not repairable. They quoted $850 for new set
> of 4 tires.

as i said read the latest NTSB on it

sidewall: no

shoulder: you have to know the structure of the steel belts, how many belts can be compromised (tire design in totality makes a difference in damage allowed), and the count differs depending if they are next to sidewall. however it's no longer true that count of belts damaged applies to "all tires", no longer true there are only 2 major designs, infact no longer true makers communicate with NTSB the actual testing and dimensions of what they are selling in the USA necessarily.

it's safe to say that many mechanics are lazy and don't parse NTSB and don't like being too close to "wrong" for inspection, while others ignore inspection for racial / loyalty reasons - which is why you see so many safety issues going down the road in Fairfax

So if you knew it was on the sidewall and you knew about the government website,what did you post your question here ?
That's so stupid I have to axe you..Is your name Nat Turner or Malcolm Axe or Fred Sanford?

Having people like the OP on the road makes me worried every time I leave the house. He should be riding a bus......a short bus.

Why did you post. here? Wrote:
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> So if you knew it was on the sidewall and you knew
> about the government website,what did you post
> your question here ?
> That's so stupid I have to axe you..Is your name
> Nat Turner or Malcolm Axe or Fred Sanford?

Hey dipshit, reading comprehension much? Shoulder is not the sidewall. Get it fuckface?

W4TT7 Wrote:
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> Tommy Varlas Wrote:
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> > Why didn't you have inspection station plug the
> > tire for $10?!?!? This way you'd pass you
> > DUMBASSS!
>
> Because that's how they fuck you. They offer to
> replace burned out lights for $17 that cost $1.25
> at Advance Auto.

You've obviously took your car to Cardinal Forest shell for the $25 license plate bulb....bring Danny Dotson back to the shop you greedy bastards! Does Cameron still have that boat for sale there????

Why did you post. here? Wrote:
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> So if you knew it was on the sidewall and you knew
> about the government website,what did you post
> your question here ?
> That's so stupid I have to axe you..Is your name
> Nat Turner or Malcolm Axe or Fred Sanford?

MALcom not second "L" is the uppity coon that has these nom de ffxu names!
Needs a beating once you find him.
Natural habitat: anywhere malt liquor is sold. Or ,$4 packs of menthol Maverick 100's

I heard from a tire place that patching is now "illegal".

One guy told me that patching a side wall will ensure a blow out once weight of the car is released onto the patched tire.

Plugging is simple and cheap and is completely legal.

I also read that because tires are made differently now, that patching doesn't work .. the patch will just slip around in the tire.

Cheap Chinese tires aren't worth the buying, BTW.

Avoid any commercial tire place, Merchants, NTB, etc., or at least sift through all the other bull they try to sell you on.

If you must buy new tires, the cheapest way is online .. have them balanced and mounted at a used tire place .. which usually does a great alignment job too.

Or you can buy tires at the junk yard with good tread for even cheaper than used tires at a "used tires" place if you are hard pressed.

Muffuckah above tink he shakespeeeer!

U buy a used tire at junkyard you gunna pay $20+ to get that ratty ass tire mounted/balanced/installed, you might as well buy new and Chinese.


Seek professional help or declare yourself a 5150