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Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
VjetP
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Date: September 04, 2016 05:16PM
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
UGntgy
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Date: September 04, 2016 09:43PM
Nice!
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
Open borders douche
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Date: September 04, 2016 10:10PM
Johnson is cool when it comes to weed but it stops there. He believes in open borders.
I would never vote for him.
I would never vote for him.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
FDS - Summer Rain
()
Date: September 05, 2016 12:15AM
More like an open borders feminine spray than a douche.
I heard someone say that Trump is building a mile deep moat along with the 100 foot high wall that has sharks with friggen Lazer eyeballs.
Gary Johnson on Immigration:
Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary Johnson understands immigration. He understands that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by politics, but by the marketplace, is essential. He understands that a bigger fence will only produce taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the flow of illegal immigrants across the border is not a consequence of too little security, but rather a legal immigration system that simply doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger fences, and other punitive measures espoused by too many politicians are all simplistic “solutions” to a problem caused by artificial quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the shameful failure of Congress to actually put in place an immigration system that matches reality.
Governor Johnson has long advocated a simplified and secure system of work visas by which willing workers and willing employers can meet in a robust labor marketplace efficiently and economically. Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background check, pay taxes and provide proof of employment.
Making it simpler and efficient to enter the U.S. legally will provide the greatest security possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its time and resources on the criminals and bad actors who are, in reality, a relatively small portion of those who are today entering the country illegally.
I heard someone say that Trump is building a mile deep moat along with the 100 foot high wall that has sharks with friggen Lazer eyeballs.
Gary Johnson on Immigration:
Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary Johnson understands immigration. He understands that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by politics, but by the marketplace, is essential. He understands that a bigger fence will only produce taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the flow of illegal immigrants across the border is not a consequence of too little security, but rather a legal immigration system that simply doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger fences, and other punitive measures espoused by too many politicians are all simplistic “solutions” to a problem caused by artificial quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the shameful failure of Congress to actually put in place an immigration system that matches reality.
Governor Johnson has long advocated a simplified and secure system of work visas by which willing workers and willing employers can meet in a robust labor marketplace efficiently and economically. Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background check, pay taxes and provide proof of employment.
Making it simpler and efficient to enter the U.S. legally will provide the greatest security possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its time and resources on the criminals and bad actors who are, in reality, a relatively small portion of those who are today entering the country illegally.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
Dkdkdk
()
Date: September 05, 2016 02:59AM
FDS - Summer Rain Wrote:
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> More like an open borders feminine spray than a
> douche.
>
> I heard someone say that Trump is building a mile
> deep moat along with the 100 foot high wall that
> has sharks with friggen Lazer eyeballs.
>
> Gary Johnson on Immigration:
>
> Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary
> Johnson understands immigration. He understands
> that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by
> politics, but by the marketplace, is essential. He
> understands that a bigger fence will only produce
> taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the
> flow of illegal immigrants across the border is
> not a consequence of too little security, but
> rather a legal immigration system that simply
> doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger
> fences, and other punitive measures espoused by
> too many politicians are all simplistic
> “solutions” to a problem caused by artificial
> quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the shameful
> failure of Congress to actually put in place an
> immigration system that matches reality.
>
> Governor Johnson has long advocated a simplified
> and secure system of work visas by which willing
> workers and willing employers can meet in a robust
> labor marketplace efficiently and economically.
> Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background
> check, pay taxes and provide proof of employment.
>
> Making it simpler and efficient to enter the U.S.
> legally will provide the greatest security
> possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its
> time and resources on the criminals and bad actors
> who are, in reality, a relatively small portion of
> those who are today entering the country
> illegally.
That is a very sane and rational approach to immigration.
-------------------------------------------------------
> More like an open borders feminine spray than a
> douche.
>
> I heard someone say that Trump is building a mile
> deep moat along with the 100 foot high wall that
> has sharks with friggen Lazer eyeballs.
>
> Gary Johnson on Immigration:
>
> Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary
> Johnson understands immigration. He understands
> that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by
> politics, but by the marketplace, is essential. He
> understands that a bigger fence will only produce
> taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the
> flow of illegal immigrants across the border is
> not a consequence of too little security, but
> rather a legal immigration system that simply
> doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger
> fences, and other punitive measures espoused by
> too many politicians are all simplistic
> “solutions” to a problem caused by artificial
> quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the shameful
> failure of Congress to actually put in place an
> immigration system that matches reality.
>
> Governor Johnson has long advocated a simplified
> and secure system of work visas by which willing
> workers and willing employers can meet in a robust
> labor marketplace efficiently and economically.
> Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background
> check, pay taxes and provide proof of employment.
>
> Making it simpler and efficient to enter the U.S.
> legally will provide the greatest security
> possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its
> time and resources on the criminals and bad actors
> who are, in reality, a relatively small portion of
> those who are today entering the country
> illegally.
That is a very sane and rational approach to immigration.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
FruppieOnImmigration
()
Date: September 05, 2016 05:59AM
Dkdkdk Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FDS - Summer Rain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More like an open borders feminine spray than a
> > douche.
> >
> > I heard someone say that Trump is building a
> mile
> > deep moat along with the 100 foot high wall
> that
> > has sharks with friggen Lazer eyeballs.
> >
> > Gary Johnson on Immigration:
> >
> > Having served as Governor of a border state,
> Gary
> > Johnson understands immigration. He understands
> > that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by
> > politics, but by the marketplace, is essential.
> He
> > understands that a bigger fence will only
> produce
> > taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the
> > flow of illegal immigrants across the border is
> > not a consequence of too little security, but
> > rather a legal immigration system that simply
> > doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger
> > fences, and other punitive measures espoused by
> > too many politicians are all simplistic
> > “solutions” to a problem caused by
> artificial
> > quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the
> shameful
> > failure of Congress to actually put in place an
> > immigration system that matches reality.
> >
> > Governor Johnson has long advocated a
> simplified
> > and secure system of work visas by which
> willing
> > workers and willing employers can meet in a
> robust
> > labor marketplace efficiently and economically.
> > Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background
> > check, pay taxes and provide proof of
> employment.
> >
> > Making it simpler and efficient to enter the
> U.S.
> > legally will provide the greatest security
> > possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its
> > time and resources on the criminals and bad
> actors
> > who are, in reality, a relatively small portion
> of
> > those who are today entering the country
> > illegally.
>
> That is a very sane and rational approach to
> immigration.
You're fucking stupid.
-------------------------------------------------------
> FDS - Summer Rain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More like an open borders feminine spray than a
> > douche.
> >
> > I heard someone say that Trump is building a
> mile
> > deep moat along with the 100 foot high wall
> that
> > has sharks with friggen Lazer eyeballs.
> >
> > Gary Johnson on Immigration:
> >
> > Having served as Governor of a border state,
> Gary
> > Johnson understands immigration. He understands
> > that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by
> > politics, but by the marketplace, is essential.
> He
> > understands that a bigger fence will only
> produce
> > taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the
> > flow of illegal immigrants across the border is
> > not a consequence of too little security, but
> > rather a legal immigration system that simply
> > doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger
> > fences, and other punitive measures espoused by
> > too many politicians are all simplistic
> > “solutions” to a problem caused by
> artificial
> > quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the
> shameful
> > failure of Congress to actually put in place an
> > immigration system that matches reality.
> >
> > Governor Johnson has long advocated a
> simplified
> > and secure system of work visas by which
> willing
> > workers and willing employers can meet in a
> robust
> > labor marketplace efficiently and economically.
> > Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background
> > check, pay taxes and provide proof of
> employment.
> >
> > Making it simpler and efficient to enter the
> U.S.
> > legally will provide the greatest security
> > possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its
> > time and resources on the criminals and bad
> actors
> > who are, in reality, a relatively small portion
> of
> > those who are today entering the country
> > illegally.
>
> That is a very sane and rational approach to
> immigration.
You're fucking stupid.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
JH7xE
()
Date: September 05, 2016 06:35AM
Dkdkdk Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> FDS - Summer Rain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More like an open borders feminine spray than a
> > douche.
> >
> > I heard someone say that Trump is building a
> mile
> > deep moat along with the 100 foot high wall
> that
> > has sharks with friggen Lazer eyeballs.
> >
> > Gary Johnson on Immigration:
> >
> > Having served as Governor of a border state,
> Gary
> > Johnson understands immigration. He understands
> > that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by
> > politics, but by the marketplace, is essential.
> He
> > understands that a bigger fence will only
> produce
> > taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the
> > flow of illegal immigrants across the border is
> > not a consequence of too little security, but
> > rather a legal immigration system that simply
> > doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger
> > fences, and other punitive measures espoused by
> > too many politicians are all simplistic
> > “solutions” to a problem caused by
> artificial
> > quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the
> shameful
> > failure of Congress to actually put in place an
> > immigration system that matches reality.
> >
> > Governor Johnson has long advocated a
> simplified
> > and secure system of work visas by which
> willing
> > workers and willing employers can meet in a
> robust
> > labor marketplace efficiently and economically.
> > Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background
> > check, pay taxes and provide proof of
> employment.
> >
> > Making it simpler and efficient to enter the
> U.S.
> > legally will provide the greatest security
> > possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its
> > time and resources on the criminals and bad
> actors
> > who are, in reality, a relatively small portion
> of
> > those who are today entering the country
> > illegally.
>
> That is a very sane and rational approach to
> immigration.
In the DC area at least the legal/illegal immigrants have developed a whole society based on cash and pay no taxes. And what about those who want to come here but not work? How will we limit them with no border controls?
-------------------------------------------------------
> FDS - Summer Rain Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > More like an open borders feminine spray than a
> > douche.
> >
> > I heard someone say that Trump is building a
> mile
> > deep moat along with the 100 foot high wall
> that
> > has sharks with friggen Lazer eyeballs.
> >
> > Gary Johnson on Immigration:
> >
> > Having served as Governor of a border state,
> Gary
> > Johnson understands immigration. He understands
> > that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by
> > politics, but by the marketplace, is essential.
> He
> > understands that a bigger fence will only
> produce
> > taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the
> > flow of illegal immigrants across the border is
> > not a consequence of too little security, but
> > rather a legal immigration system that simply
> > doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger
> > fences, and other punitive measures espoused by
> > too many politicians are all simplistic
> > “solutions” to a problem caused by
> artificial
> > quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the
> shameful
> > failure of Congress to actually put in place an
> > immigration system that matches reality.
> >
> > Governor Johnson has long advocated a
> simplified
> > and secure system of work visas by which
> willing
> > workers and willing employers can meet in a
> robust
> > labor marketplace efficiently and economically.
> > Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background
> > check, pay taxes and provide proof of
> employment.
> >
> > Making it simpler and efficient to enter the
> U.S.
> > legally will provide the greatest security
> > possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its
> > time and resources on the criminals and bad
> actors
> > who are, in reality, a relatively small portion
> of
> > those who are today entering the country
> > illegally.
>
> That is a very sane and rational approach to
> immigration.
In the DC area at least the legal/illegal immigrants have developed a whole society based on cash and pay no taxes. And what about those who want to come here but not work? How will we limit them with no border controls?
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
pk6Mb
()
Date: September 05, 2016 07:33AM
Its not a choice between a huge wall or open borders.
The question is: where do we spend our money and energy?
Recall our debt is approaching 20,000,000,000,000
http://www.usdebtclock.org
The question is: where do we spend our money and energy?
Recall our debt is approaching 20,000,000,000,000
http://www.usdebtclock.org
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
nxkYV
()
Date: September 05, 2016 09:00AM
pk6Mb Wrote:
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> Its not a choice between a huge wall or open
> borders.
> The question is: where do we spend our money and
> energy?
> Recall our debt is approaching 20,000,000,000,000
> http://www.usdebtclock.org
Read Trump's immigration plan before spouting off. Sealing the border is just one part of it. Geez, you uniformed sheeple really shouldn't vote....
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/2302108/2302143.html#msg-2302143
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> Its not a choice between a huge wall or open
> borders.
> The question is: where do we spend our money and
> energy?
> Recall our debt is approaching 20,000,000,000,000
> http://www.usdebtclock.org
Read Trump's immigration plan before spouting off. Sealing the border is just one part of it. Geez, you uniformed sheeple really shouldn't vote....
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/2302108/2302143.html#msg-2302143
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
Murph
()
Date: September 05, 2016 09:11AM
The only problems with Trump's plans (this week's version) is that Trump would be part of them.
He is a moron, and Hilary is a criminal.
He is a moron, and Hilary is a criminal.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
LYPPL
()
Date: September 05, 2016 09:23AM
Murph Wrote:
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> The only problems with Trump's plans (this week's
> version) is that Trump would be part of them.
>
> He is a moron, and Hilary is a criminal.
Yep. And I'll take the moron trying to do the right thing over the evil criminal who will never do the right thing any day. At least with Trump, he might stumble onto progress every now and again. With Hillary, there's no chance.
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> The only problems with Trump's plans (this week's
> version) is that Trump would be part of them.
>
> He is a moron, and Hilary is a criminal.
Yep. And I'll take the moron trying to do the right thing over the evil criminal who will never do the right thing any day. At least with Trump, he might stumble onto progress every now and again. With Hillary, there's no chance.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
nnX3V
()
Date: September 05, 2016 10:40AM
My problem with Clinton and Trump is that I believe nothing that they say. I have no idea what they truly believe, and I think it is because neither has an ethical basis for decision making. Each of them believes only in their winning, personally.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
Hammer
()
Date: September 05, 2016 11:00AM
nnX3V Wrote:
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> My problem with Clinton and Trump is that I
> believe nothing that they say. I have no idea what
> they truly believe, and I think it is because
> neither has an ethical basis for decision making.
> Each of them believes only in their winning,
> personally.
+1 vote
You hit the nail on the head. Both are cut from the same cheesy New York huckster cloth, which is why I will vote for Gary. He may have aspects of some policies that are not exactly in line with my views, or pandering to my views, but at least he is relatable and has proven Executive Branch experience. Same as his running mate. Not perfect, but at least they are sane and not criminals.
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> My problem with Clinton and Trump is that I
> believe nothing that they say. I have no idea what
> they truly believe, and I think it is because
> neither has an ethical basis for decision making.
> Each of them believes only in their winning,
> personally.
+1 vote
You hit the nail on the head. Both are cut from the same cheesy New York huckster cloth, which is why I will vote for Gary. He may have aspects of some policies that are not exactly in line with my views, or pandering to my views, but at least he is relatable and has proven Executive Branch experience. Same as his running mate. Not perfect, but at least they are sane and not criminals.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
6pLbK
()
Date: September 06, 2016 07:39AM
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
Gruntled
()
Date: September 06, 2016 09:28AM
My biggest objection to Johnson is that open borders problem as it applies to the H1Bs being used to dilute tech salaries. I'm in the tech industry, and I'm old. Even if a cheap H1B doesn't take this job, they limit where I can go.
That said, at least he thinks that as a philosophy, not because he was paid a $250K honorarium for a speech by someone who may want cheaper labor at some time in the future.
That said, at least he thinks that as a philosophy, not because he was paid a $250K honorarium for a speech by someone who may want cheaper labor at some time in the future.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
Lm4y3
()
Date: September 06, 2016 08:46PM
I know.
But my experience has been that dealing with an ethical person with whom I disagree almost always results in a better outcome than dealing with a lying, crooked, narcissist that tells me what (s)he thinks I want to hear. So to me, the choice has never been more clear.
I think Johnson will respect the office, too, and not essentially pass laws via executive order.
But my experience has been that dealing with an ethical person with whom I disagree almost always results in a better outcome than dealing with a lying, crooked, narcissist that tells me what (s)he thinks I want to hear. So to me, the choice has never been more clear.
I think Johnson will respect the office, too, and not essentially pass laws via executive order.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
Good Guy But Cant Win
()
Date: September 06, 2016 10:53PM
The Enemy of the USA is among us... Hillary Clinton. Dont Throw your vote away voting for a Third Party candidate. Things all around will be better with Trump, then Hillary For Everybody including the Liberals! Johnson is a Good guy.. A lot better then Hillary. But he cant win and "Sending" a "Message" in THIS Election is only talking to yourself.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
VGTkJ
()
Date: September 06, 2016 11:23PM
The enemy is deceit.
That's both D's and Rs this cycle.
Trump is no conservative, Clinton is no liberal.
Don't throw your country away by voting for them.
When 65% of the country wants something other than them, the only way either wins is voters fearing that the worst candidate will win.
I will not be complicit, I will vote Johnson.
That's both D's and Rs this cycle.
Trump is no conservative, Clinton is no liberal.
Don't throw your country away by voting for them.
When 65% of the country wants something other than them, the only way either wins is voters fearing that the worst candidate will win.
I will not be complicit, I will vote Johnson.
Re: Richmond Times Dispatch endorses Gary Johnson
Posted by:
newspaper aficionado
()
Date: September 06, 2016 11:35PM
Ah, the Richmond Times, that newspaper that I knew about and whose endorsement I cared about 5 minutes ago, and that I have actually read, ever.
Yes, the Richmond Herald, er...Times. Whatever.
Yes, the Richmond Herald, er...Times. Whatever.