WHAT is going to happen to this school now? School failed to raise sols scores for 4 years in a row.

That school is located in the shithole community of Sequoia. I used to live there back in the early '80's and it was going down hill at that time. Can't even imagine what it is like now!

What did you expect? It's a fairfax school.

Yep, all the money spent on turf fields, consultants, meals, and conferences sure did wonders for this school's test scores. I'm sure all those holders of 2 year online Ed.D. degrees had a two day retreat to confer before saying this matter is closed.

This mess started with the Former Principal (White Female) who escaped Mount Vernon Woods by being given another school on the other side of the county. Then shortly later, she was sued by employees for discrimination and it was settled out of court.

The minority administrator who took over had a bad deal from the beginning.

Black folks in predominately white settings, have to work twice as hard, be twice as good, and be more on top of things than their white counterparts.

The belief in a “black tax” does a disservice, emotionally and psychologically, FCPS has a issue with Equity and Equality for employees.

One thing that everyone is missing is children that goes to this school most of the parents do not give support to their kid. Most are poor me parents and bring their kid up with that view point. They do not teach their kid to be respectful and could care less how they behave in class. Some of the blame has to go to the parent and until FCPS stops blaming the teachers and administrator and puts responsibility on the parent to raise their kids right nothing will change. Then the kids go to high school and the system accepts this behavior from the kids and gives them IEP's just to get them to walk across the stage but the kids don't know anything. But they are out of school and not a problem for FCPS. They can't read or write much less do any type of math. The truth is that learning and respect start at home. Stop blaming the teachers and administrators at the school. Also all the kids that are the worst their mother or person who they stay with need to work in the school to see what it is really like to work there. Very seldom will you see one of the parents volunteer.

Yhis school is full of niggers, Mexicans, muzzies, and all the other 3rd world shit coming into the country.
There's very few white people that are still in that area.

The sad part that the black administrators in high school don't want any negativity towards them and let the kids and their parents walk all over them and the school not to mention have teachers scared to say anything about certain kids or know if they write them up the administrator will do nothing. The black kid gets a bye with behavior and even education. Schools are administrators are to worried about numbers and parents making screaming. But remember no matter how bad the kid is they are never at fault. Until FCPS learns to hold the kid and their parent accountable these schools will keep going down.

"Until FCPS learns to hold the kid and their parent accountable these schools will keep going down."



Correct answer. It has little to with money for schools or teachers or even principals. The two biggest contributors to the success or failure of a school is the quality of the student and the involvement of the parents.

I feel sorry for the teachers there. Their class of students are held up to the same test scores as the other end of the county. When you have a bunch of lazy parents and their kids refuse to learn to even mind and the parent could careless what does the county or the people in the area expect. The parents come in a disrespect the office personal, hate the principal and teachers because they are in a authority position and in their minds they do not have to listen to anyone. That my friend is what parents are teaching their kids and that is why if they graduate the student knows nothing.

No wonder then that MVHS is on probation every year. The directive from above is to not discipline the minorities because once they are in the system, they will stay there. Therefore, the teachers must deal with the trouble makers.

The easy solution to narrowing the achievement gap is to bring the high performers down to the level of the bottom feeders. The death of a once great school system is here. Just keep up that property and meals tax so you can pay my big salary increase.

Thanks

It is just not Mount Vernon. It is all the schools on the Route 1 corridor. Until the central offices come to see how different that end of the county is compared to the West end of the county it is not fair to hold the teachers responsible it their students don't pass the SOL's. More than half the time in the high school the kids skip the class and then skip the remediation to learn what is going to be on the test. The truth is almost all those students are minorities. Forget about telling the parent either they don't answer their phone or could careless. Also there is really lack of support from the admin. They are just worried about how it reflects on them. This is one reason I moved to the other end of the county. I want to teach kids that want to learn and that I am treated with respect. Something that is not taught in that area. Looking back I feel sorry for some that choose to remain there.

Black Tax Wrote:
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> Black folks in predominately white settings, have
> to work twice as hard, be twice as good, and be
> more on top of things than their white
> counterparts.


bullshit

blacks have it easier than any other race in the USA

the fact they and their parents fail is on them only - not some made up fantasy excuse

If we had a meal's tax we could pour money into this school and fix the problems. You know, just put money on it.

yt4FM Wrote:
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> If we had a meal's tax we could pour money into
> this school and fix the problems. You know, just
> put money on it.

First of all it is "meals tax" and not "meal's tax."

Second, MVHS had money poured money into it in the form of Flip Flippen, who charged $10,000 to give a one hour speech. We see how well that worked out. The problem is not pouring money, it is pouring it intelligently. $10,000 for a one hour speech is not a good use of money, especially at a troubled school.

Unless and until FCPS gets its financial house in order, it should not get any more money, and that includes a meals tax.

Missing the point. It starts from the home and the parent. Unless you have parents that care if their child gets educated no matter how much money you pour into a school you will still have the same problems.

Bottom line: get the parent to do THEIR job. The teacher should teach the parent should parent.

http://www.newspressnow.com/news/local_news/article_5963f994-e542-51b6-aa3d-185fb4129bcc.html

What a con artist Flip Flippen seems to be, and he does NOTHING for the schools!

You joke about Flip, but if it had worked it would have been MUCH less expensive than next cheapest realistic option. Can you imagine what the cost would be if we had classrooms of five or six disadvantaged kids with school days ending at five, and truant officers being sent out daily to check on any kids who didn't show up for school. That is about what it would take to obtain success from the large numbers unmotivated or unprepared kids that are hitting some of our schools who are coming from households with uninvolved parents.

Remember the days when the parents were in trouble if their kid did not go to school or if the child was a problem and the parent did not take care of it at home. Make the parent pay the price if they do not come to school or if the child starts trouble. Then you will see a turn around in behavior and a child wanting to learn. It is the parent's responsibility!!!

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> You joke about Flip, but if it had worked it would
> have been MUCH less expensive than next cheapest
> realistic option. Can you imagine what the cost
> would be if we had classrooms of five or six
> disadvantaged kids with school days ending at
> five, and truant officers being sent out daily to
> check on any kids who didn't show up for school.
> That is about what it would take to obtain success
> from the large numbers unmotivated or unprepared
> kids that are hitting some of our schools who are
> coming from households with uninvolved parents.

Sorry, Flip Flippen and his methods did not work-money down the drain. Just because he was cheaper than an alternative does not mean he should have been chosen. That is flawed reasoning. Flippen hustled FCPS and other some other districts as well.

You know how people say New Jersey is the Armpit of America? Sequoia is the armpit of Mount Vernon. Specifically Fairfax County. A lot of shit goes down in Sequoia. And on top of that how different schools are on the North Western part of Fairfax county is VERY different from the South East where all the minorities are at. Mount Vernon High is one of the most diverse High schools in Fairfax county meaning it gets a lot of blame for low SOL and SAT scores. I went to Mount Vernon. There are some REALLY lazy teachers but there are also lazy students there. When my parents saw what was going on they took me out of there and moved to a private school on the Western side of Fairfax county.

Flip would tell you that you needed more of his coaching. He can't change a system with one session. Maybe you should have him on retainer. I am sure the meal's tax would cover this.

[It's meal's tax not meals tax. More educated people than me have made this call.]

6tUeU Wrote:
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> Flip would tell you that you needed more of his
> coaching. He can't change a system with one
> session. Maybe you should have him on retainer.
> I am sure the meal's tax would cover this.
>
> [It's meal's tax not meals tax. More educated
> people than me have made this call.]

Flippen will bill a district until it is broke. None of his work comes with a guaarantee, and he's vague about past performance. It has been said, and said well elsewhere, that he sells rather than explains.

The fact that he has to fudge his background is also a big red flag. When most people hear "psychotherapist" they think "psychologist" (Ph.D. or Psy.D. degree) or psychiatrist (M.D. degree). Flippen has an M.A., is only a "licensed professional counselor" and his license is currently inactive. So, all of his tales about results with kids at his "residential facility" are either fabricatins or ancient history. The same can be said for his claim of having "privileges at psychiatric hospitals"-as a "counselor" he could only have those under the supervision of a physician, and he could not have them with an inactive license.

But he made his money at Mount Vernon and rode off into the sunset, off to his next profitable consulting gig. Yipee-kay-yay!