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Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
ozone
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Date: September 28, 2015 05:24PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/us/politics/survey-of-republican-voters-shows-a-majority-believe-in-climate-change.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-4&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.®ion=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=articleQuote
A majority of Republicans — including 54 percent of self-described conservative Republicans — believe the world’s climate is changing and that mankind plays some role in the change, according to a new survey conducted by a trio of prominent Republican pollsters.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Mark j
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Date: September 28, 2015 05:36PM
Global warming does not exist..it is a lie
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
case closed
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Date: September 28, 2015 07:12PM
Mark j Wrote:
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> Global warming does not exist..it is a lie
Well, there you have it. That was easy.
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> Global warming does not exist..it is a lie
Well, there you have it. That was easy.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Paging JOHN BERLAU
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Date: September 28, 2015 07:17PM
John Berlau is a global warming denier.
John Berlau works at the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI). He's the head of their center for investors and entrepreneurs. Odd, as he has no track record as either, but let's move on.
He claims that DDT is good for you, and that trees pollute more than cars. When pressed, he says "well, that's what they say." (not sure who "they" are)
Berlau, who holds degrees in journalism and economics, was pressed about his lack of scientific training. He was asked a simple question: "what happens to a gas when it is heated?" Burl tried to deflect the question as irrelevant. When it seemed that he had no choice but to answer, he said, with no small measure of hesitation, "well, obviously, it gets heavier." The crowd laughed and Berlau sulked.
John Berlau works at the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI). He's the head of their center for investors and entrepreneurs. Odd, as he has no track record as either, but let's move on.
He claims that DDT is good for you, and that trees pollute more than cars. When pressed, he says "well, that's what they say." (not sure who "they" are)
Berlau, who holds degrees in journalism and economics, was pressed about his lack of scientific training. He was asked a simple question: "what happens to a gas when it is heated?" Burl tried to deflect the question as irrelevant. When it seemed that he had no choice but to answer, he said, with no small measure of hesitation, "well, obviously, it gets heavier." The crowd laughed and Berlau sulked.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
commonsense
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Date: September 28, 2015 07:21PM
It's pretty simple really. Every cause of climate change is something Republicans support -- every solution is something socialists/leftists/Democrats support. That alone is enough to tell you it's a hoax.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Dinosores
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Date: September 28, 2015 07:28PM
Hey, the dinosaurs didn't raise taxes because of co2 and they are all dead. So, get in line and pay more taxes because that is the way to save the planet!
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
socrates
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Date: September 28, 2015 08:01PM
commonsense Wrote:
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> It's pretty simple really. Every cause of climate
> change is something Republicans support -- every
> solution is something
> socialists/leftists/Democrats support. That alone
> is enough to tell you it's a hoax.
How far did you get in school? Your idea of a syllogism is just sad.
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> It's pretty simple really. Every cause of climate
> change is something Republicans support -- every
> solution is something
> socialists/leftists/Democrats support. That alone
> is enough to tell you it's a hoax.
How far did you get in school? Your idea of a syllogism is just sad.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
words to live by
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Date: September 28, 2015 08:02PM
Dinosores Wrote:
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> Hey, the dinosaurs didn't raise taxes because of
> co2 and they are all dead. So, get in line and pay
> more taxes because that is the way to save the
> planet!
>
> The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
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> Hey, the dinosaurs didn't raise taxes because of
> co2 and they are all dead. So, get in line and pay
> more taxes because that is the way to save the
> planet!
>
> The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
FU motherfucker I need liquor to
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Date: September 28, 2015 09:06PM
Mark j Wrote:
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> Global warming does not exist..it is a lie
Asshole, it does so exist, I've been promised less snow in the winter and longer summers and I'm damn sure going to get them.
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> Global warming does not exist..it is a lie
Asshole, it does so exist, I've been promised less snow in the winter and longer summers and I'm damn sure going to get them.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
True the Vote!
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Date: September 28, 2015 09:24PM
The climate does change, always has and always will. The point and fact it has been colder for almost 20 years. Libtard commies move the goalpost then change the definition of a word and claim victory, kinda like the word marriage.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
no point in worrying
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Date: September 29, 2015 02:29AM
The simple truth is that even if we were to go back to a preindustrial level of human CO2 emissions tomorrow we would not be able to stop the freight train of climate change that's bearing down on us now.
We have passed the tipping point, and the best you can hope for is that you die before things *really* start going to shit.
There is no point in worrying about something you cannot do anything about.
We have passed the tipping point, and the best you can hope for is that you die before things *really* start going to shit.
There is no point in worrying about something you cannot do anything about.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Libtardz!!! LoLz!!
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Date: September 29, 2015 02:48AM
Who gives a shit. I don't like the winter anyway.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
My thoughts
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Date: September 29, 2015 07:31AM
To answer the question-
No, I believe the majority of Fairfax residents recognize that the changing climate and global arming is directly involved with human activity, particularly the influence of greenhouse gases released by fossil fuel use.
The reason most Fairfax residents recognize this is because the county is hugely populated by intelligent, educated people who can weigh facts and opinions.
On Fairfax Underground you'll get a different response. And part of that is because many posters on FFXU are not Fairfax County residents.
No, I believe the majority of Fairfax residents recognize that the changing climate and global arming is directly involved with human activity, particularly the influence of greenhouse gases released by fossil fuel use.
The reason most Fairfax residents recognize this is because the county is hugely populated by intelligent, educated people who can weigh facts and opinions.
On Fairfax Underground you'll get a different response. And part of that is because many posters on FFXU are not Fairfax County residents.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
T. Rex
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Date: September 29, 2015 07:40AM
If only I'd paid more taxes and given up individual rights, me and my fellow dinosaurs would be alive today.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Grade School Science Book
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Date: September 29, 2015 03:52PM
What happened to the simple fact that the sun warms the earth at various intensities and man can't do anything about it? Guess you can't shakedown the US economy on that one.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Scientist
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Date: September 29, 2015 04:20PM
Climate changes happen.
Man-made climate change is proven to be a myth.
Perpetuated by billions of dollars of government grants worldwide spent to study and combat it. Followed by millions of dollars spent by the attacked industries to defend themselves.
If we just went back to measuring and reducing air pollution most people would be on the same page.
Man-made climate change is proven to be a myth.
Perpetuated by billions of dollars of government grants worldwide spent to study and combat it. Followed by millions of dollars spent by the attacked industries to defend themselves.
If we just went back to measuring and reducing air pollution most people would be on the same page.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Not my problem, dude
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Date: September 29, 2015 04:28PM
Who the fuck cares? It's only this generation of fucked-up kids who will have to deal with it.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Get a life
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Date: September 29, 2015 05:00PM
You know what makes up 905 of all greenhouse gasses? CLOUDS, as in WATER VAPOR. I'm supposed to pay fucking carbon taxes to get rid of clouds?
Oh, I think not.
Oh, I think not.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
useful idiots
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Date: September 29, 2015 05:36PM
What a pack of dunces you are. You would have been among the 1% of scientists who argued that the link between smoking and cancer had not been proven in 1975. How did that work out? And acid rain was a "myth" or a "lie" too. You are simply sad.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
I am no scientist
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Date: September 29, 2015 05:46PM
I am no scientist but when Im not dismissing all the archeologists, biologists, anthropologists, geologists, chemists etc. on the Theory of Evolution I stay busy dismissing all of the climatologists, biologists, geologists chemists etc. on Climate Change.
But I wouldnt be alive if it weren't for medicine - thank God science hasnt ruined that yet.
But I wouldnt be alive if it weren't for medicine - thank God science hasnt ruined that yet.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Climate Hoax Denier
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Date: September 29, 2015 05:56PM
Every single prediction the Climate Hoaxers claim proves false.
Yet, after every weather event like a hurricane or too little snow, or too much snow, etc., the Climate Hoaxers assert that the event is caused by Climate Change.
Those Hoaxers are too dumb to even have an apt word for us skeptics of this fraud: they call us "Climate Deniers." I've never met anyone who denies that there's a concept of a climate. I'd like to meet one.
Anyway, they don't use "Anthropomorphic Climate Change Denier". That's too many words for the Left.
But, most tellingly, the hoaxers have been caught in their fraud in manipulating data. And when caught, Leftists like Barbara Boxer react by saying we have to prosecute the hackers who found the incriminating evidence against the hoax. How fascist can you Leftists be?
Yet the Climate Hoaxers (all Leftists, by the way) claim that what really "proves" Global Climate Change is "Scientific Consensus".
And, to any real scientist, this amounts to gobbledygook.
Yet, after every weather event like a hurricane or too little snow, or too much snow, etc., the Climate Hoaxers assert that the event is caused by Climate Change.
Those Hoaxers are too dumb to even have an apt word for us skeptics of this fraud: they call us "Climate Deniers." I've never met anyone who denies that there's a concept of a climate. I'd like to meet one.
Anyway, they don't use "Anthropomorphic Climate Change Denier". That's too many words for the Left.
But, most tellingly, the hoaxers have been caught in their fraud in manipulating data. And when caught, Leftists like Barbara Boxer react by saying we have to prosecute the hackers who found the incriminating evidence against the hoax. How fascist can you Leftists be?
Yet the Climate Hoaxers (all Leftists, by the way) claim that what really "proves" Global Climate Change is "Scientific Consensus".
And, to any real scientist, this amounts to gobbledygook.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Libtardz!!! LoLz!!
()
Date: September 29, 2015 06:46PM
Too much snow? Climate Change!!!!
Too little snow? Climate Change!!!!
Too much rain? Climate Change!!!!
Too little rain? Climate Change!!!!
Too many hurricanes? Climate change!!!!
Too few hurricanes? Climate change!!!!
Etc., etc., etc.......
Too little snow? Climate Change!!!!
Too much rain? Climate Change!!!!
Too little rain? Climate Change!!!!
Too many hurricanes? Climate change!!!!
Too few hurricanes? Climate change!!!!
Etc., etc., etc.......
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
dssw?
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Date: September 29, 2015 07:09PM
Libtardz!!! LoLz!! Wrote:
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> Too much snow? Climate Change!!!!
> Too little snow? Climate Change!!!!
>
> Too much rain? Climate Change!!!!
> Too little rain? Climate Change!!!!
>
> Too many hurricanes? Climate change!!!!
> Too few hurricanes? Climate change!!!!
>
> Etc., etc., etc.......
Ouite impressive. Rhodes Scholar?
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> Too much snow? Climate Change!!!!
> Too little snow? Climate Change!!!!
>
> Too much rain? Climate Change!!!!
> Too little rain? Climate Change!!!!
>
> Too many hurricanes? Climate change!!!!
> Too few hurricanes? Climate change!!!!
>
> Etc., etc., etc.......
Ouite impressive. Rhodes Scholar?
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Al.Gore
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Date: September 29, 2015 07:32PM
Climate change is real. No shit. Look how much money I've made and if you were making that kind of dough you'd buy into the companies I've invested in
and profited from. I'll let you in on a little secret. It's going to snow
ten feet in December but thankfully I don't have to shovel my driveway. That's
what Mexicans and other peasants are for.
and profited from. I'll let you in on a little secret. It's going to snow
ten feet in December but thankfully I don't have to shovel my driveway. That's
what Mexicans and other peasants are for.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
T
()
Date: October 17, 2015 03:57PM
I acknowledge that global climate change is caused by human activity and that it is now a serious issue.
However, based on my experience today, I belive emissions inspections in Northern Virginia probably should be done away with.
First, I don't know that this is a high air pollution area. If someone can show me that it is, then I might change my mind.
More directly though, my Honda dealer tells me that my Civic hybrid cannot pass the emissions inspection unless I replace the faulty hybrid battery at a cost of $3500. This even though the car doesn't need the hybrid system in order to operate safely, and doesn't produce unhealthy emissions simply because of the battery not working. The only reason it would not pass emissions is that the battery's inoperability causes the check engine light to illuminate -- and that masks any other potentially emissions-related problems that may exist. That's why: the check engine light. $3500.
So now I no longer support emissions inspections. Because they don't rely on actual emissions. And I won't be buying anymore hybrids, because of the risk of this problem. Without emissions inspections, I would not hesitate to buy another hybrid.
However, based on my experience today, I belive emissions inspections in Northern Virginia probably should be done away with.
First, I don't know that this is a high air pollution area. If someone can show me that it is, then I might change my mind.
More directly though, my Honda dealer tells me that my Civic hybrid cannot pass the emissions inspection unless I replace the faulty hybrid battery at a cost of $3500. This even though the car doesn't need the hybrid system in order to operate safely, and doesn't produce unhealthy emissions simply because of the battery not working. The only reason it would not pass emissions is that the battery's inoperability causes the check engine light to illuminate -- and that masks any other potentially emissions-related problems that may exist. That's why: the check engine light. $3500.
So now I no longer support emissions inspections. Because they don't rely on actual emissions. And I won't be buying anymore hybrids, because of the risk of this problem. Without emissions inspections, I would not hesitate to buy another hybrid.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Libtardz!!! LoLz!!
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Date: October 17, 2015 04:39PM
Emissions inspection is nothing but a scam.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
Phineas T. Bluster
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Date: October 17, 2015 05:11PM
Emission inspections were invented by prominent Republican pollsters!
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
progress I guess.
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Date: October 17, 2015 05:35PM
70% of Americans doubt that the number 3 is greater than the number 7. Its progress I guess.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
In The Know .
()
Date: October 17, 2015 05:36PM
Dinosores Wrote:
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> Hey, the dinosaurs didn't raise taxes because of
> co2 and they are all dead. So, get in line and pay
> more taxes because that is the way to save the
> planet!
>
> The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
Everyone knows the dinosaurs died because they drove big, gas-guzzling SUVs.
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> Hey, the dinosaurs didn't raise taxes because of
> co2 and they are all dead. So, get in line and pay
> more taxes because that is the way to save the
> planet!
>
> The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
Everyone knows the dinosaurs died because they drove big, gas-guzzling SUVs.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
causeican
()
Date: October 17, 2015 10:56PM
T Wrote:
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> I acknowledge that global climate change is caused
> by human activity and that it is now a serious
> issue.
>
> However, based on my experience today, I belive
> emissions inspections in Northern Virginia
> probably should be done away with.
>
> First, I don't know that this is a high air
> pollution area. If someone can show me that it is,
> then I might change my mind.
>
> More directly though, my Honda dealer tells me
> that my Civic hybrid cannot pass the emissions
> inspection unless I replace the faulty hybrid
> battery at a cost of $3500. This even though the
> car doesn't need the hybrid system in order to
> operate safely, and doesn't produce unhealthy
> emissions simply because of the battery not
> working. The only reason it would not pass
> emissions is that the battery's inoperability
> causes the check engine light to illuminate -- and
> that masks any other potentially emissions-related
> problems that may exist. That's why: the check
> engine light. $3500.
>
> So now I no longer support emissions inspections.
> Because they don't rely on actual emissions. And I
> won't be buying anymore hybrids, because of the
> risk of this problem. Without emissions
> inspections, I would not hesitate to buy another
> hybrid.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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> I acknowledge that global climate change is caused
> by human activity and that it is now a serious
> issue.
>
> However, based on my experience today, I belive
> emissions inspections in Northern Virginia
> probably should be done away with.
>
> First, I don't know that this is a high air
> pollution area. If someone can show me that it is,
> then I might change my mind.
>
> More directly though, my Honda dealer tells me
> that my Civic hybrid cannot pass the emissions
> inspection unless I replace the faulty hybrid
> battery at a cost of $3500. This even though the
> car doesn't need the hybrid system in order to
> operate safely, and doesn't produce unhealthy
> emissions simply because of the battery not
> working. The only reason it would not pass
> emissions is that the battery's inoperability
> causes the check engine light to illuminate -- and
> that masks any other potentially emissions-related
> problems that may exist. That's why: the check
> engine light. $3500.
>
> So now I no longer support emissions inspections.
> Because they don't rely on actual emissions. And I
> won't be buying anymore hybrids, because of the
> risk of this problem. Without emissions
> inspections, I would not hesitate to buy another
> hybrid.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
NjpxnNjpxn
()
Date: October 18, 2015 01:07AM
I am no scientist Wrote:
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> I am no scientist but when Im not dismissing all
> the archeologists, biologists, anthropologists,
> geologists, chemists etc. on the Theory of
> Evolution I stay busy dismissing all of the
> climatologists, biologists, geologists chemists
> etc. on Climate Change.
>
> But I wouldnt be alive if it weren't for medicine
> - thank God science hasnt ruined that yet.
Don't worry; politics has ruined it. Politics is ruining science. Well, more accurately, politics is making non-scientists believe they know science.
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> I am no scientist but when Im not dismissing all
> the archeologists, biologists, anthropologists,
> geologists, chemists etc. on the Theory of
> Evolution I stay busy dismissing all of the
> climatologists, biologists, geologists chemists
> etc. on Climate Change.
>
> But I wouldnt be alive if it weren't for medicine
> - thank God science hasnt ruined that yet.
Don't worry; politics has ruined it. Politics is ruining science. Well, more accurately, politics is making non-scientists believe they know science.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
WwHcF
()
Date: October 18, 2015 07:28AM
I believe global climate change exists -- in fact, I believe it has always existed. The Earth is a dynamic system. The contribution of mankind to the effect is in question. Certainly we have had an impact on the climate before aka the ozone layer. Contrails (or Chemtrails) have an impact on overall heating/warming patterns. There are other examples but this should be sufficient to prove that mankind can have an effect.
What is the future? Hard to say -- the current models seem fairly primitive. The data is rife with "corrections" and "normalizations" that are guesswork. It's going to take more time to get a decent answer.
Is reducing the use of fossil fuels a good idea? Yes, it is a limited resource -- we will run out eventually. Politically, it's also a good idea not to rely on foreign countries for our energy (why do you think we have a petroleum reserve). Shortening the carbon cycle seems like a good idea anyway since that takes advantage of a solar. We need oil as crutch for now.
In fact, "exporting energy" can give us a bargaining position with some countries (like China, Russia and the Middle East). Want to upset Putin? Undercut Russia's prices to China and watch his economy collapse. After Russia fails, raise the price to China and recoup losses. It's an energy driven world.
What is the future? Hard to say -- the current models seem fairly primitive. The data is rife with "corrections" and "normalizations" that are guesswork. It's going to take more time to get a decent answer.
Is reducing the use of fossil fuels a good idea? Yes, it is a limited resource -- we will run out eventually. Politically, it's also a good idea not to rely on foreign countries for our energy (why do you think we have a petroleum reserve). Shortening the carbon cycle seems like a good idea anyway since that takes advantage of a solar. We need oil as crutch for now.
In fact, "exporting energy" can give us a bargaining position with some countries (like China, Russia and the Middle East). Want to upset Putin? Undercut Russia's prices to China and watch his economy collapse. After Russia fails, raise the price to China and recoup losses. It's an energy driven world.
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
vjvpv
()
Date: October 19, 2015 04:22PM
I believe that climate change is a natural phenomena and that the earth goes through changes every few thousand years (i.e. the Little Ice Age.) I also believe that we have been speeding it up based upon what I watched on the docu-series on Showtime called Years of Living Dangerously. But at this point I think it's safe to say we're fucked so...YOLO!
Re: Are Fairfax residents outside the mainstream on climate chnage
Posted by:
XctNk
()
Date: October 19, 2015 05:29PM
Record cold temperature at Dulles last night.