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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Counseling Services of Vienna ()
Date: September 30, 2014 02:52PM

Woodburn Professional Wrote:
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> Looks like Actually/anonymous liberal/Hey
> Goober/etc. has gone off his meds. What a sad,
> sad man. He is an out of shape man with clear
> mental health problems. If I had to guess, I'd
> say he is impotent as well.


His narcissism and egomania forces him to do this. He can't leave anything out there unanswered. It eats away at him. He's thinking about when he's off the computer. He MUST respond. He MUST win. Even if it means embarrassing himself by creating alter-egos to try to draw attention and reinforce his belief that he has in his own mind. while being obvious and looking foolish to everyone else, he's impressed with himself. Which is all that really matters to him.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Date: September 30, 2014 02:58PM

Work@cox Friends@verizon Wrote:
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> Ip trace complete. Matched the IPs with the timestamps
> on the posts, and no surprise, Cheesesteak and Hey goober
> are all the same.

You blithering idiot! TWO things cannot be ALL the same. The minimum number is three. But how would you know that? You're just our favorite suspended middle school fucktard, and nobody would ever need any of your ridiculous IP-address nonsense to figure that one out The level of MORON all by itself is a DEAD FUCKING GIVE-AWAY.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: too far out ()
Date: September 30, 2014 03:02PM

Cheesesteak Wrote:
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> (Warning: This post may contain idioms.)
>
> Looks like the Falls Church Fucktard is getting
> his worthless ass kicked in every corner of FFXU
> today.

By who? LOL!

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Date: September 30, 2014 03:02PM

Counseling Services of Vienna Wrote:
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> His narcissism and egomania forces him to do this.

No, it's his inate superiority to you and your pathetic toy soldiers at fucking everything imagineable. Even playing toy soldiers! Fucking DERP!!!

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Date: September 30, 2014 03:04PM

too far out Wrote:
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> By who? LOL!

Look around, dumbfuck. I think one of them was Jayson Werth.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: too far out ()
Date: September 30, 2014 03:20PM

anonymous liberal Wrote:
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> too far out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > By who? LOL!
>
> Look around, dumbfuck. I think one of them was
> Jayson Werth.


So, now you think Jayson Werth posts here? Or, do you think you are Jayson Werth? Given the severity if your breakdown, I believe that you think either is possible. As someone suggested above, get back on your medication.

Look, I've got no problem picking on an arrogant idiot asshole who is too stupid to know he is stupid. Embarrassing people like that is fair game. However, I am not in the habit of picking on those with mental health issues of which you are clearly suffering. Seriously, get some help. You need it.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: holy hell, we've got a live one ()
Date: September 30, 2014 03:22PM

anonymous liberal Wrote:
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> Counseling Services of Vienna Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > His narcissism and egomania forces him to do
> this.
>
> No, it's his inate superiority to you and your
> pathetic toy soldiers at fucking everything
> imagineable. Even playing toy soldiers! Fucking
> DERP!!!

Are you referring yourself in the third person now???

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Here's another quarter ()
Date: September 30, 2014 03:25PM

anonymous liberal Wrote:
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> Counseling Services of Vienna Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > His narcissism and egomania forces him to do
> this.
>
> No, it's his inate superiority to you and your
> pathetic toy soldiers at fucking everything
> imagineable. Even playing toy soldiers! Fucking
> DERP!!!


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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Counseling Services of Vienna ()
Date: September 30, 2014 03:27PM

holy hell, we've got a live one Wrote:
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>
> Are you referring yourself in the third person
> now???


That's also typical among egomaniacs.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Date: September 30, 2014 05:51PM

too far out Wrote:
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too far out Wrote:
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> As someone suggested above, get back on your medication.

That was you, you hopelessly ignorant assfuck. And I hope you are putting in time to keep up (as best you can) with your studies so that when you are at last allowed to return to middle school, you aren't hopelessly behind, causing teachers and other students to laugh at you, just as we do here.

> Look, I've got no problem picking on an arrogant
> idiot asshole who is too stupid to know he is
> stupid. Embarrassing people like that is fair
> game. However, I am not in the habit of picking
> on those with mental health issues of which you
> are clearly suffering. Seriously, get some help.
> You need it.

Dude, you've been torched worse than Frankenstein out at the Old Mill. Such an asshole.
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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Date: September 30, 2014 05:55PM

holy hell, we've got a live one Wrote:
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> Are you referring yourself in the third person
> now???

LOL! That would have been an example of proper syntax, something you and the pointless toy soldiers are completely unfamiliar with. And mind your tongue, or I'll use another idiom. OMG...I just did!

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 06:06PM

> No, it's his innate superiority to you and your
> pathetic toy soldiers at fucking everything
> imaginable. Even playing toy soldiers! Fucking DERP!

I just thought that part deserved to be posted again. It kind of sums up the whole situation in this thread and quite a number of others. Just one smart guy crushing the life out of teeming derp-clones. You see it every day.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: JGDYJ ()
Date: September 30, 2014 06:08PM

Hey Goober Wrote:
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> > No, it's his innate superiority to you and your
> > pathetic toy soldiers at fucking everything
> > imaginable. Even playing toy soldiers! Fucking
> DERP!
>
> I just thought that part deserved to be posted
> again. It kind of sums up the whole situation in
> this thread and quite a number of others. Just
> one smart guy crushing the life out of teeming
> derp-clones. You see it every day.


Wow. That's just sad man.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 06:25PM

JGDYJ Wrote:
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> Wow. That's just sad man.

Very snappy comeback, assfuck! You may now consider yourself an even more dismal failure than you were half an hour ago.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Counseling Services of Vienna ()
Date: September 30, 2014 06:33PM

Hey Goober Wrote:
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> > No, it's his innate superiority to you and your
> > pathetic toy soldiers at fucking everything
> > imaginable. Even playing toy soldiers! Fucking
> DERP!
>
> I just thought that part deserved to be posted
> again. It kind of sums up the whole situation in
> this thread and quite a number of others. Just
> one smart guy crushing the life out of teeming
> derp-clones. You see it every day.


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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Vienna resident ()
Date: September 30, 2014 07:07PM

This is all a diversion to keep people from concentrating on the clusterf*ck that is Vienna. Every time someone criticizes Vienna, these diversionary tactics crop up.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Stay Classy Vienna ()
Date: September 30, 2014 07:14PM

^^^^
Good point. I mean, is Vienna that bad? Or it's residents so thin skinned they can't take a little criticism?

By the way, which store has the best mattresses in Vienna?

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 07:20PM

Vienna resident Wrote:
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> This is all a diversion to keep people from
> concentrating on the clusterf*ck that is Vienna.
> Every time someone criticizes Vienna, these
> diversionary tactics crop up.

One-man band alert...
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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: too far out ()
Date: September 30, 2014 07:21PM

anonymous liberal Wrote:
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> too far out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> too far out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As someone suggested above, get back on your
> medication.
>
> That was you, you hopelessly ignorant assfuck.
> And I hope you are putting in time to keep up (as
> best you can) with your studies so that when you
> are at last allowed to return to middle school,
> you aren't hopelessly behind, causing teachers and
> other students to laugh at you, just as we do
> here.
>
> > Look, I've got no problem picking on an
> arrogant
> > idiot asshole who is too stupid to know he is
> > stupid. Embarrassing people like that is fair
> > game. However, I am not in the habit of
> picking
> > on those with mental health issues of which you
> > are clearly suffering. Seriously, get some
> help.
> > You need it.
>
> Dude, you've been torched worse than Frankenstein
> out at the Old Mill. Such an asshole.
> .

As mentioned, I'll engage a mental midget, but not a mentally infirm person. If you've got family around, which I know is doubtful, show them what you've done here today. Show them how many profiles you've created. Show them your posts. See if they think it is normal. If you can admit that you're too embarrassed to show them, maybe you'll start to realize you need to seek professional help.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 07:21PM

Stay Classy Vienna Wrote:
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> Good point. I mean, is Vienna that bad? Or it's
> residents so thin skinned they can't take a little
> criticism? By the way, which store has the best
> mattresses in Vienna?

Oh look! It's the triangle! ding-ding-ding.

What an absolute asshole.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Counseling Services of Vienna ()
Date: September 30, 2014 07:47PM

too far out Wrote:
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>
> As mentioned, I'll engage a mental midget, but not
> a mentally infirm person. If you've got family
> around, which I know is doubtful, show them what
> you've done here today. Show them how many
> profiles you've created. Show them your posts.
> See if they think it is normal. If you can admit
> that you're too embarrassed to show them, maybe
> you'll start to realize you need to seek
> professional help.


He's way past that. He's not embarrassed by his behavior as any normal person might be. He actually believes that he's making himself look good here.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Mattress finder ()
Date: September 30, 2014 08:00PM

Hey Goober Wrote:
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> Stay Classy Vienna Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Good point. I mean, is Vienna that bad? Or it's
> > residents so thin skinned they can't take a
> little
> > criticism? By the way, which store has the best
>
> > mattresses in Vienna?
>
> Oh look! It's the triangle! ding-ding-ding.
>
> What an absolute asshole.

What are you talking about? I'm looking to buy a mattress and through a google search came to this forum. I thought there would be some helpful people here. Guess not. What a bunch of losers. Especially this Hey Goober person. Must live a sad and lonely life.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: discriminating shopper ()
Date: September 30, 2014 08:28PM

Actually... only uses Duxiana mattresses. They have to be trucked in from Philadelphia or New York. The mattresses sold in Vienna are nasty.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 08:32PM

Counseling Services of Vienna Wrote:
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> He's way past that. He's not embarrassed by his
> behavior as any normal person might be. He
> actually believes that he's making himself look
> good here.

I'm just pointing out the completely obvious here -- LOOK, THERE'S ANOTHER MINDLESS ASSHOLE. See how that works, or are you just too dumb to follow along here?

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 08:36PM

Mattress finder Wrote:
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> What are you talking about? I'm looking to buy a
> mattress and through a google search came to this
> forum. I thought there would be some helpful
> people here. Guess not.

None of these assholes can help themselves, much less someone else. The one smart guy is presently busy laughing at what a colossal fucking DERP you are!

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 08:46PM

discriminating shopper Wrote:
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> Actually... only uses Duxiana mattresses. They
> have to be trucked in from Philadelphia or New
> York. The mattresses sold in Vienna are nasty.

LOL! My sister-in-law used to own a Duxiana store in the Seattle area. She sold it once her kids were born. We used to go in and flop on the floor samples when we visited. Very nice, but one look at the price list told you this was a worse deal than the Diamond Club. Bang-for-the-buck is a factor no matter how wealthy you are. Or aren't, in the case of all you total assholes.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Counseling Services of Vienna ()
Date: September 30, 2014 09:03PM

Hey Goober Wrote:
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> I'm just pointing out the completely obvious here...


As am I...

Pathological Narcissistic Personality Disorder

People who are diagnosed with a narcissistic personality disorder are characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance. They have a sense of entitlement and demonstrate grandiosity in their beliefs and behavior. They have a strong need for admiration, but lack feelings of empathy.

Symptoms of this disorder, as defined by the DSM-IV-TR, include:

- Expects to be recognized as superior and special, without superior accomplishments
- Expects constant attention, admiration and positive reinforcement from others
- Envies others and believes others envy him/her
- Is preoccupied with thoughts and fantasies of great success, enormous attractiveness, power, intelligence
- Lacks the ability to empathize with the feelings or desires of others
- Is arrogant in attitudes and behavior
- Has expectations of special treatment that are unrealistic

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by an over-inflated sense of self-importance, as well as dramatic, emotional behavior that is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.

In addition to these symptoms, the person may display arrogance, show superiority, and seek power. The symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder can be similar to the traits of individuals with strong self-esteem and confidence; differentiation occurs when the underlying psychological structures of these traits are considered pathological. Narcissists have such an elevated sense of self-worth that they value themselves as inherently better than others, when in reality they have a fragile self-esteem, cannot handle criticism, and often try to compensate for this inner fragility by belittling or disparaging others in an attempt to validate their own self-worth. Comments and criticisms about others are vicious from sufferers of NPD, in an attempt to boost their own poor self-esteem.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 09:17PM

Counseling Services of Vienna Wrote:
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> Pathological Narcissistic Personality Disorder

Your diagnosis is much simpler...

ASSHOLE: Completely worthless ignorant fucktard.

See?

Meanwhile, my superiority here is self-evident. That's what pisses all you worthless goobers off so much -- post after post after post, it stares you straight in the face, and you have no fucking answer for it. Assholes.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Counseling Services of Vienna ()
Date: September 30, 2014 09:23PM

Hey Goober Wrote:
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> Counseling Services of Vienna Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pathological Narcissistic Personality Disorder
>
> Your diagnosis is much simpler...
>
> ASSHOLE: Completely worthless ignorant fucktard.
>
> See?
>
> Meanwhile, my superiority here is self-evident.
> That's what pisses all you worthless goobers off
> so much -- post after post after post, it stares
> you straight in the face, and you have no fucking
> answer for it. Assholes.


And he proves the point. Textbook.

Thank you.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Hey Goober ()
Date: September 30, 2014 09:59PM

Counseling Services of Vienna Wrote:
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> And he proves the point. Textbook. Thank you.

Typical content-free asshole response. You jerkwads and toy soldiers cannot refute a single thing I say. Perhaps recognizing this, you have given up even trying to develop rational, cogent, relevant commentary. Nothing but senseless drivel and sorry-ass attempts at personal attack that are easily slammed right back down your pathetic throats. It's all like Federer versus an 8-year old. You are all just lost fucking causes and nothing more. What a debacle here for the lot of you.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: too far out ()
Date: September 30, 2014 11:40PM

Counseling Services of Vienna Wrote:
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> too far out Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > As mentioned, I'll engage a mental midget, but
> not
> > a mentally infirm person. If you've got family
> > around, which I know is doubtful, show them
> what
> > you've done here today. Show them how many
> > profiles you've created. Show them your posts.
>
> > See if they think it is normal. If you can
> admit
> > that you're too embarrassed to show them, maybe
> > you'll start to realize you need to seek
> > professional help.
>
>
> He's way past that. He's not embarrassed by his
> behavior as any normal person might be. He
> actually believes that he's making himself look
> good here.


So he would actually show people his multiple profiles and posts and not be embarrassed? I find this hard to believe. Then again, I don't suffer from a mental health or personality disorder so I have no idea what it is like. Is it delusions, multiple personalities, or some other disorder?

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Date: October 01, 2014 12:04AM

too far out Wrote:
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> So he would actually show people his multiple
> profiles and posts and not be embarrassed? I find
> this hard to believe. Then again, I don't suffer
> from a mental health or personality disorder so I
> have no idea what it is like. Is it delusions,
> multiple personalities, or some other disorder?

You are rapidly catching up to True-The-Vote! as the stupidest poster on the internet. Worthless downscale dumbfuck.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: in the know.... ()
Date: October 01, 2014 11:40AM

Wow, I take a day or so off and Actually... goes completely off the deep end. Hope those tough security guards let him in to his "club" with all of his mental issues. Maybe I'll stroll on up there to see if I can see crazy in person. After all, my plan gives me access to his "club" as well.

I've also booked my tickets to San Fran for Sunday morning. If things go right, I'll have a nice four days there. Maybe even see the Nats win the series there. Really don't want to do a Pittsburg trip.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Counseling Services of Vienna ()
Date: October 01, 2014 03:14PM

too far out Wrote:
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>
> So he would actually show people his multiple
> profiles and posts and not be embarrassed? I find
> this hard to believe. Then again, I don't suffer
> from a mental health or personality disorder so I
> have no idea what it is like. Is it delusions,
> multiple personalities, or some other disorder?


Likely so. See Narcissistic Personality Disorder above. He doesn't view it as aberrant behavior; rather, he's just further proving what he actually believes to be the case to himself. He has no understanding that it's perceived by normal people in a negative way. Nor, being entirely self-centric, does he particularly care. That's why such self-reinforcing disorders are among the most difficult to change versus, in contrast, those where a person may recognize that they have some problem but are unable to control it.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Thread of the year nominee ()
Date: October 01, 2014 03:35PM

Greetings OP! Your post has been nominated for the thread of the year™ 2014!
There are many awful, unfunny, non anger inspiring threads on this website every single day, and for one thread to spark so much anger, so much pure spiteful rage and envy in so many people, you are truly in need of recognition and it is our honor to nominate your thread for Thread of the year 2014™

Your works now have the chance to grace the secret subforum hall of fame, including such past winners as:

*Theres no food in the grocery store(2012)
*There's too much food in the grocery store(2013)
*that thread miz made about a baby(2003)
*the Michael cutts saga(2009-2012)
*the other saga(I am legally prohibited from mentioning her name here)*
*generic eesh porn thread #128(1997)
*eli(2010)

God bless you, and your work and please stay tuned to see if your thread™ has made the cut to 16. Good work and good luck,

-Ffxu nominating committee chair

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Mattress Discounters ()
Date: October 01, 2014 04:26PM

I'm honored. Really. I started this thread only because I saw how much passion there was about Vienna and it hadn't made the list of top 50 places to live. Seemed like a good opportunity to start a typical friendly FFXU debate and man did we get one.

I'm also honored to be in the company of other such fine threads as you've listed. In all humbleness I would suggest you add to that list the "Incident at Carl Sandburg Middle School" thread. It raged for over a year. It predates my time on FFXU, yet even after the hate had died down provided me with hours of entertainment and encouraged me to try harder in my own thread development.

The beauty of my thread is that its grown and matured and take a direction that frankly was wholly unexpected. I wish to thank participants for nurturing and encouraging this thread to be more than could ever have been imagined. You, you are the ones who are the shining lights of FFXU.

I will of course respect my nomination for Thread of the year 2014™ and use my position only for purposes of goodness and truth just as every FFXU poster does.

You have truly inspired me to go the extra effort in developing more quality threads like this one.

Again, thank you.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: in the know3 ()
Date: October 01, 2014 04:31PM

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Nominating Committee Member ()
Date: October 01, 2014 05:01PM

Thread of the year nominee Wrote:
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> ...for one thread to spark so much anger, so much pure
> spiteful rage and envy in so many people...


First, while certainly worthy of merit, note that the aforementioned anger, rage, and envy, 'Actually...' is primarily on the part of one individual using multiple identities.

Second, note the the thread was purpose-built to elicit the rather predictable anger, rage, and envy on the part of said individual versus others where these are a more organic result.

Therefore, I suggest that a more proper nomination may be in the 'All Up In Yo Head' category where it stands a better chance of receiving appropriate recognition.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Vienna Sausage ()
Date: October 02, 2014 10:00PM

Okay, so two questions:

1. Are you suggest the person posting as "Actually" is posting as others on the same thread and sort having arguments with his/her self?


2. What is it about threads about Vienna that get people so worked up? There's another one right now about the Vienna town council and it's following a similar trajectory to this one, and there have been other Vienna based threads that have led to similar conclusions. It seems no other town elicits such strong emotion, at least on FFXU.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: KFbuJ ()
Date: October 02, 2014 10:04PM

Vienna Sausage Wrote:
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> Okay, so two questions:
>
> 1. Are you suggest the person posting as
> "Actually" is posting as others on the same thread
> and sort having arguments with his/her self?

Obviously.


> 2. What is it about threads about Vienna that get
> people so worked up? There's another one right now
> about the Vienna town council and it's following a
> similar trajectory to this one, and there have
> been other Vienna based threads that have led to
> similar conclusions. It seems no other town
> elicits such strong emotion, at least on FFXU.

Same nut job in all.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: Judge Roy Bean ()
Date: October 02, 2014 11:22PM

Seems to me that all these whiners are actually posters who've recently been ripped to shreds by "Actually".

VERDICT: Guilty of being whiny assholes.

Bailiff, take them all out and hang them. So it is ordered, so let it be done.

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Re: Why is Vienna not ranked in the top 50 places to live?
Posted by: ev3vl ()
Date: October 02, 2014 11:54PM

Judge Roy Bean Wrote:
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> Seems to me that all these whiners are actually
> posters who've recently been ripped to shreds by
> "Actually".
>
> VERDICT: Guilty of being whiny assholes.
>
> Bailiff, take them all out and hang them. So it
> is ordered, so let it be done.


^ As I said, same nut job.

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