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It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
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Lie lie lie Dems lie all the tim
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Date: February 06, 2017 08:20AM
There is absolutely no mammade global warming.
The Mail on Sunday today reveals astonishing evidence that the organisation that is the world’s leading source of climate data rushed to publish a landmark paper that exaggerated global warming and was timed to influence the historic Paris Agreement on climate change.
A high-level whistleblower has told this newspaper that America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) breached its own rules on scientific integrity when it published the sensational but flawed report, aimed at making the maximum possible impact on world leaders including Barack Obama and David Cameron at the UN climate conference in Paris in 2015.
The report claimed that the ‘pause’ or ‘slowdown’ in global warming in the period since 1998 – revealed by UN scientists in 2013 – never existed, and that world temperatures had been rising faster than scientists expected. Launched by NOAA with a public relations fanfare, it was splashed across the world’s media, and cited repeatedly by politicians and policy makers.
But the whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, has shown The Mail on Sunday irrefutable evidence that the paper was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.
It was never subjected to NOAA’s rigorous internal evaluation process – which Dr Bates devised.
His vehement objections to the publication of the faulty data were overridden by his NOAA superiors in what he describes as a ‘blatant attempt to intensify the impact’ of what became known as the Pausebuster paper.
The Mail on Sunday today reveals astonishing evidence that the organisation that is the world’s leading source of climate data rushed to publish a landmark paper that exaggerated global warming and was timed to influence the historic Paris Agreement on climate change.
A high-level whistleblower has told this newspaper that America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) breached its own rules on scientific integrity when it published the sensational but flawed report, aimed at making the maximum possible impact on world leaders including Barack Obama and David Cameron at the UN climate conference in Paris in 2015.
The report claimed that the ‘pause’ or ‘slowdown’ in global warming in the period since 1998 – revealed by UN scientists in 2013 – never existed, and that world temperatures had been rising faster than scientists expected. Launched by NOAA with a public relations fanfare, it was splashed across the world’s media, and cited repeatedly by politicians and policy makers.
But the whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, has shown The Mail on Sunday irrefutable evidence that the paper was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.
It was never subjected to NOAA’s rigorous internal evaluation process – which Dr Bates devised.
His vehement objections to the publication of the faulty data were overridden by his NOAA superiors in what he describes as a ‘blatant attempt to intensify the impact’ of what became known as the Pausebuster paper.
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
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PhysicsTeacher
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Date: February 06, 2017 10:00AM
https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/wp-content/plugins/sio-bluemoon/graphs/mlo_full_record.png
The keeling curve neither proves nor disproves that CO2 emitted by human acitivity (mostly buring coal for electrical power generation) is causing "global warming". It is clear that human activity is increasing atmospheric CO2 since there is no other source.
It is also a certainty that CO2 blocks the emission of infrared radiation which is the mechanism by which the earth cools itself. It is a function of the CO2 molecules "degrees of freedom"
I leave it to you to draw your own conclusions...
Brad Miller, Physics Teacher The Commonwealth Governor's School
Master of Physics, UVa 2007
The keeling curve neither proves nor disproves that CO2 emitted by human acitivity (mostly buring coal for electrical power generation) is causing "global warming". It is clear that human activity is increasing atmospheric CO2 since there is no other source.
It is also a certainty that CO2 blocks the emission of infrared radiation which is the mechanism by which the earth cools itself. It is a function of the CO2 molecules "degrees of freedom"
I leave it to you to draw your own conclusions...
Brad Miller, Physics Teacher The Commonwealth Governor's School
Master of Physics, UVa 2007
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
uCeM3
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Date: February 06, 2017 11:57AM
I cannot get too excited over a tenth of a percent of a degree of warming. The earth is 4.5 BILLION years old, it has never stayed the same and it never will. What hubris to think that we can control it. To be taxed by the Al Gores of the world for this kind of change is craziness. We are being duped by the rich once again.
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
eJxGh
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Date: February 06, 2017 12:29PM
Thanks to Mr. Miller for giving evidence-based analysis to the subject.
OP failed to even provide a link to the source.
'The Mail on Sunday' has been proven to be a low quality source of credible information.
http://www.lse.ac.uk/GranthamInstitute/news/more-fake-news-in-the-mail-on-sunday/
So, you can choose to believe the source and 1 NOAA scientist OR the integrity of The Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics and Political Science. (LSEPS has 18 Nobel Prize winners amongst it's alumni.)
Sometimes graphics help. As Mr. Miller said CO2 blocks energy (heat) from leaving.
The blue circles in the graphic can be identified as CO2 in the chart.
A very simplistic example is ... it's like sitting in your car with the windows up on a hot day.
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OP failed to even provide a link to the source.
'The Mail on Sunday' has been proven to be a low quality source of credible information.
http://www.lse.ac.uk/GranthamInstitute/news/more-fake-news-in-the-mail-on-sunday/
So, you can choose to believe the source and 1 NOAA scientist OR the integrity of The Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics and Political Science. (LSEPS has 18 Nobel Prize winners amongst it's alumni.)
Sometimes graphics help. As Mr. Miller said CO2 blocks energy (heat) from leaving.
The blue circles in the graphic can be identified as CO2 in the chart.
A very simplistic example is ... it's like sitting in your car with the windows up on a hot day.
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Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
YJGUt
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Date: February 06, 2017 12:55PM
uCeM3 Wrote:
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> I cannot get too excited over a tenth of a percent
> of a degree of warming. The earth is 4.5 BILLION
> years old, it has never stayed the same and it
> never will. What hubris to think that we can
> control it. To be taxed by the Al Gores of the
> world for this kind of change is craziness. We
> are being duped by the rich once again.
Indeed, the vast majority of scientists would also agree based on evidence that the Earth's temperature does change as you say.
The 'Al Gores of the world' endgame isn't to tax you. The best solution is for world-wide regulations. The Carbon Credit Tax is just a compromise for industries.
Nobody but yourself is being 'duped by the rich'. There is plenty of evidence to prove this point.
Exxon has known for years about climate change and spent millions to make the public think it's not. (THAT is being 'duped'.)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/sec-investigating-exxon-on-valuing-of-assets-accounting-practices-1474393593
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/20/science/exxon-mobil-fraud-inquiry-said-to-focus-more-on-future-than-past.html
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
It's bullshit to think we don't effect it.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/beijing-china-coal-production-air-pollution-cut-30-per-cent-smog-environment-climate-change-a7563976.html
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> I cannot get too excited over a tenth of a percent
> of a degree of warming. The earth is 4.5 BILLION
> years old, it has never stayed the same and it
> never will. What hubris to think that we can
> control it. To be taxed by the Al Gores of the
> world for this kind of change is craziness. We
> are being duped by the rich once again.
Indeed, the vast majority of scientists would also agree based on evidence that the Earth's temperature does change as you say.
The 'Al Gores of the world' endgame isn't to tax you. The best solution is for world-wide regulations. The Carbon Credit Tax is just a compromise for industries.
Nobody but yourself is being 'duped by the rich'. There is plenty of evidence to prove this point.
Exxon has known for years about climate change and spent millions to make the public think it's not. (THAT is being 'duped'.)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/sec-investigating-exxon-on-valuing-of-assets-accounting-practices-1474393593
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/20/science/exxon-mobil-fraud-inquiry-said-to-focus-more-on-future-than-past.html
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
It's bullshit to think we don't effect it.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/beijing-china-coal-production-air-pollution-cut-30-per-cent-smog-environment-climate-change-a7563976.html
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Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
PhysicsTeacher
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Date: February 06, 2017 02:03PM
uCeM3 Wrote:
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> I cannot get too excited over a tenth of a percent
> of a degree of warming. The earth is 4.5 BILLION
> years old, it has never stayed the same and it
> never will. What hubris to think that we can
> control it. To be taxed by the Al Gores of the
> world for this kind of change is craziness. We
> are being duped by the rich once again.
Mankind can absolutely control the atmosphere. Detonate as little as 1/10 of the worlds nuclear arsenal and we will have nuclear winter. Or do you deny that also?
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> I cannot get too excited over a tenth of a percent
> of a degree of warming. The earth is 4.5 BILLION
> years old, it has never stayed the same and it
> never will. What hubris to think that we can
> control it. To be taxed by the Al Gores of the
> world for this kind of change is craziness. We
> are being duped by the rich once again.
Mankind can absolutely control the atmosphere. Detonate as little as 1/10 of the worlds nuclear arsenal and we will have nuclear winter. Or do you deny that also?
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
Arrogant humans at it again
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Date: February 06, 2017 03:01PM
Set them all off, the earth will turn green again. Go to Chernoble and see.
Scientist said it would be contaminated for centuries. Wrong again pinheads.
The reason this report was rushed is because the "warming had stopped" for 18 years. What did that? They don't know or we could do more of it.
Idiots
Scientist said it would be contaminated for centuries. Wrong again pinheads.
The reason this report was rushed is because the "warming had stopped" for 18 years. What did that? They don't know or we could do more of it.
Idiots
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
jWLHw
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Date: February 06, 2017 03:24PM
Arrogant humans at it again Wrote:
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> The reason this report was rushed is because the
> "warming had stopped" for 18 years. What did that?
> They don't know or we could do more of it.
>
It hasn't stopped, Stupid.
http://www.businessinsider.com/climate-change-before-and-after-pictures-of-earth-2015-2/#rocky-mountain-national-park-before-healthy-pine-trees-stretch-for-tens-of-millions-of-acres-in-the-northwestern-us-and-western-canada-1
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/effects-climate-change-world-gallery-1.2950611
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> The reason this report was rushed is because the
> "warming had stopped" for 18 years. What did that?
> They don't know or we could do more of it.
>
It hasn't stopped, Stupid.
http://www.businessinsider.com/climate-change-before-and-after-pictures-of-earth-2015-2/#rocky-mountain-national-park-before-healthy-pine-trees-stretch-for-tens-of-millions-of-acres-in-the-northwestern-us-and-western-canada-1
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/effects-climate-change-world-gallery-1.2950611
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
Joe B.
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Date: February 06, 2017 08:26PM
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
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global warming is a big lie
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Date: February 06, 2017 08:37PM
very difficult to reason with victims of big lie cults...just like nazis or communists...the cult of global warming folks will very rarely listen to reason and if something does bother their common sense, they go back to fake news/science to have it soothed...
and the more educated a victim of a big lie is, he will even cling harder since his ego would never let him admit he is a sucker
for example...world has been green to poles and white to equator for millenia prior to mankind...that made me stop and think my way out...but the idiots will go and hear "but it never turned green so fast" and go back to being sheep
and even when you point out that the so called solution 'trillion dollar carbon tax" is a giveaway to goldman sachs bankers, they still fall for it...just like the idiots protests payed for by soros will read from a billionaires script on how they are against corporate crime
and the more educated a victim of a big lie is, he will even cling harder since his ego would never let him admit he is a sucker
for example...world has been green to poles and white to equator for millenia prior to mankind...that made me stop and think my way out...but the idiots will go and hear "but it never turned green so fast" and go back to being sheep
and even when you point out that the so called solution 'trillion dollar carbon tax" is a giveaway to goldman sachs bankers, they still fall for it...just like the idiots protests payed for by soros will read from a billionaires script on how they are against corporate crime
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
Ddffxxxx
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Date: February 06, 2017 08:55PM
Arrogant humans at it again Wrote:
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> Set them all off, the earth will turn green again.
> Go to Chernoble and see.
>
> Scientist said it would be contaminated for
> centuries. Wrong again pinheads.
>
> The reason this report was rushed is because the
> "warming had stopped" for 18 years. What did that?
> They don't know or we could do more of it.
>
> Idiots
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> Set them all off, the earth will turn green again.
> Go to Chernoble and see.
>
> Scientist said it would be contaminated for
> centuries. Wrong again pinheads.
>
> The reason this report was rushed is because the
> "warming had stopped" for 18 years. What did that?
> They don't know or we could do more of it.
>
> Idiots
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Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
ded44
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Date: February 06, 2017 09:05PM
Ddffxxxx Wrote:
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> Arrogant humans at it again Wrote:
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> > Go to Chernoble and see.
> >
> > Scientist said it would be contaminated for
> > centuries. Wrong again pinheads.
> >
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It is contaminated, and it will be for centuries. There IS a lot of life there. No one said it would be an immediate death zone. It's not a good idea to live there, though. Your risk of cancer would be a fair bit higher. Birth deformities would be higher.
Sorry, you're the pinhead, and you've made a very typical comment for your type. Misstate the science, then accuse the science of being stupid.
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> Arrogant humans at it again Wrote:
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> > Go to Chernoble and see.
> >
> > Scientist said it would be contaminated for
> > centuries. Wrong again pinheads.
> >
>
It is contaminated, and it will be for centuries. There IS a lot of life there. No one said it would be an immediate death zone. It's not a good idea to live there, though. Your risk of cancer would be a fair bit higher. Birth deformities would be higher.
Sorry, you're the pinhead, and you've made a very typical comment for your type. Misstate the science, then accuse the science of being stupid.
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
Libtard lunacy
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Date: February 06, 2017 09:25PM
Lol!! People still believe in man made climate change??
Lol, a sucker is born every minute.
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Lol, a sucker is born every minute.
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Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
Al B Gore
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Date: February 06, 2017 09:42PM
Sounds like I'm gonna have to fire up my private jet to fly around the world and remind all you dumbfucks to stop using fossil fuels.
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
donald jay trump
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Date: February 07, 2017 01:49PM
if you want to save the climate, you have to make the third world some how not want to have lots of jobs, cheap sources of energy or first world living standards.
good luck with that.
good luck with that.
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
7tbXX
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Date: February 07, 2017 09:26PM
Federal scientist cooked climate change books ahead of Obama presentation, whistle blower charges - I've been saying this for years!
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
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Strip Um Of Funds..NOAA
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Date: February 07, 2017 10:03PM
Tough Shit That The world population is exploding.. If there's any real reason for it...
What the Fuck you think the Chinese are going to use other then coal..You well off Lib Gubment Shit do nothing!! Now ride your god dammed bike to work from your Inner City Crime Ridden Shitty Cubicle....
And strip The EPA of $$ Too!!
What the Fuck you think the Chinese are going to use other then coal..You well off Lib Gubment Shit do nothing!! Now ride your god dammed bike to work from your Inner City Crime Ridden Shitty Cubicle....
And strip The EPA of $$ Too!!
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
Deadhead
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Date: February 08, 2017 08:06AM
I'm doing my part. Been driving around the country for two years in my 72 ford econoline van attending global warming protests and warning everyone about the evils of fossil fuel and big oil. Thank Allah I have a trustfund to pay for it.
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
Posted by:
Ahmad Fahrurozi
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Date: December 21, 2021 11:11PM
Re: It's time to defund NOAA for lying to the world.
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Well ..The CDC
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Date: December 22, 2021 12:00AM
Lied about guns to shill for Democrats gun controls , you can't trust anything a Democrat says these days