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Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Stacie Cayci, Sterling
()
Date: August 04, 2014 05:04AM
Foust’s claims cross the line
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140801/OPINION/140809810/1065/foust-x2019-s-claims-cross-the-line&template=fairfaxTimes
When National Public Radio notes that a Democrat candidate is engaging in “old-fashioned fear-mongering” in his election it’s pretty clear they’ve crossed a line.
From the beginning, the Foust campaign has been amateurishly clumsy and negative – first attacking well-respected Congressman Frank Wolf, claiming Wolf had done nothing on transportation. Foust claimed, “On transportation, all you have to do is get in your car and start driving and know that (Wolf) has not done all that he should have done.”
In recent tributes from Sen. Mark Warner and Sen. Tim Kaine, they have directly contradicted Foust’s misguided negative attacks on Wolf.
Foust now continues to wildly attack Del. Barbara Comstock just about every day in a barrage of fundraising emails from the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Comstock’s past opponent, Kathleen Murphy, who is still clearly bitter about her loss last year.
Foust has made no case for himself or his experience to be our representative in Washington. Aside from supporting all of the tax increases he’s imposed over the past seven years and now the Obama/Pelosi tax increases he supports, does he have any other ideas?
He should be laying out his plan including a way to fight to protect our national security and defense, ideas for reforming our tax code, a sound plan to put Americans back to work and a plan for a healthcare system that doesn’t bankrupt us with skyrocketing premiums while removing our choices of doctors and medical treatments.
Instead of offering solutions, he’d rather spend his time attacking Comstock and align himself with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.
I, for one, don’t want a candidate who is going to be the handmaiden of Nancy Pelosi. I would like an independent voice for our district – and since we have no women representing us in the entire Virginia delegation – and it’s all old white men – I also wouldn’t mind that voice being a woman’s voice for a change. Comstock has a strong record of focusing first on jobs and getting people back to work and getting the economy moving. She’s committed to getting us good, modern, patient centered healthcare – not the disastrous Obamacare nightmare that can’t even figure out how to run a website, much less healthcare. Barbara also has a strong working relationship with our tech, business and defense communities which are essential for our 21st century jobs.
I am currently proud to call Comstock my representative in our Virginia House of Delegates and I know that she would make our whole 10th District proud to call her our congresswoman.
Stacie Cayci, Sterling
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140801/OPINION/140809810/1065/foust-x2019-s-claims-cross-the-line&template=fairfaxTimes
When National Public Radio notes that a Democrat candidate is engaging in “old-fashioned fear-mongering” in his election it’s pretty clear they’ve crossed a line.
From the beginning, the Foust campaign has been amateurishly clumsy and negative – first attacking well-respected Congressman Frank Wolf, claiming Wolf had done nothing on transportation. Foust claimed, “On transportation, all you have to do is get in your car and start driving and know that (Wolf) has not done all that he should have done.”
In recent tributes from Sen. Mark Warner and Sen. Tim Kaine, they have directly contradicted Foust’s misguided negative attacks on Wolf.
Foust now continues to wildly attack Del. Barbara Comstock just about every day in a barrage of fundraising emails from the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Comstock’s past opponent, Kathleen Murphy, who is still clearly bitter about her loss last year.
Foust has made no case for himself or his experience to be our representative in Washington. Aside from supporting all of the tax increases he’s imposed over the past seven years and now the Obama/Pelosi tax increases he supports, does he have any other ideas?
He should be laying out his plan including a way to fight to protect our national security and defense, ideas for reforming our tax code, a sound plan to put Americans back to work and a plan for a healthcare system that doesn’t bankrupt us with skyrocketing premiums while removing our choices of doctors and medical treatments.
Instead of offering solutions, he’d rather spend his time attacking Comstock and align himself with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi.
I, for one, don’t want a candidate who is going to be the handmaiden of Nancy Pelosi. I would like an independent voice for our district – and since we have no women representing us in the entire Virginia delegation – and it’s all old white men – I also wouldn’t mind that voice being a woman’s voice for a change. Comstock has a strong record of focusing first on jobs and getting people back to work and getting the economy moving. She’s committed to getting us good, modern, patient centered healthcare – not the disastrous Obamacare nightmare that can’t even figure out how to run a website, much less healthcare. Barbara also has a strong working relationship with our tech, business and defense communities which are essential for our 21st century jobs.
I am currently proud to call Comstock my representative in our Virginia House of Delegates and I know that she would make our whole 10th District proud to call her our congresswoman.
Stacie Cayci, Sterling
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Let's Ban Crazy
()
Date: August 04, 2014 06:03AM
Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit what you think.
You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Priapus
()
Date: August 04, 2014 06:15AM
Are you related to Mustata?
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
gtfo tea bagger
()
Date: August 04, 2014 06:24AM
Go back to West VA where you belong, you retardicans have no place in NOVA.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: August 04, 2014 07:25AM
The real question is IS ANYONE GETTING FOOLED BY THIS COMSTOCK CAMPAIGN TACTIC? Stayci isn't an independent voter. She's a long time supporter of Comstock's and a member of Catholics for Comstock.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Say What?
()
Date: August 04, 2014 08:49AM
Where exactly did Stacie claim she was an independent voter?
She said she wanted an independent voice for the 10th District, meaning one that's not beholden to what Nancy Pelosi dictates or isn't a rubber stamp vote for what Obama wants.
She said she wanted an independent voice for the 10th District, meaning one that's not beholden to what Nancy Pelosi dictates or isn't a rubber stamp vote for what Obama wants.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
VYNMJ
()
Date: August 04, 2014 09:07AM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> The real question is IS ANYONE GETTING FOOLED BY
> THIS COMSTOCK CAMPAIGN TACTIC? Stayci isn't an
> independent voter. She's a long time supporter of
> Comstock's and a member of Catholics for Comstock.
Why are you supporting a blatant liar like Foust?
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> The real question is IS ANYONE GETTING FOOLED BY
> THIS COMSTOCK CAMPAIGN TACTIC? Stayci isn't an
> independent voter. She's a long time supporter of
> Comstock's and a member of Catholics for Comstock.
Why are you supporting a blatant liar like Foust?
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Loudoun voter
()
Date: August 04, 2014 09:43AM
"Instead of offering solutions, [Foust would] rather spend his time attacking Comstock and align himself with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi."
Gottsa have Nancy Pelosi's name in all voter communications. It is a rule in the Comstock campaign.
Gottsa have Nancy Pelosi's name in all voter communications. It is a rule in the Comstock campaign.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Foust is not his own man
()
Date: August 04, 2014 09:48AM
Loudoun voter Wrote:
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> "Instead of offering solutions, [Foust would]
> rather spend his time attacking Comstock and align
> himself with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi."
>
> Gottsa have Nancy Pelosi's name in all voter
> communications. It is a rule in the Comstock
> campaign.
Gottsa have Nancy Pelosi show up in the district and tout her boy Foust. It is a rule of the Foust campaign.
Why are you so ashamed to have Nancy's name associated with Foust? If you don't want the two connected, they shouldn't be tied at the hip.
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> "Instead of offering solutions, [Foust would]
> rather spend his time attacking Comstock and align
> himself with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi."
>
> Gottsa have Nancy Pelosi's name in all voter
> communications. It is a rule in the Comstock
> campaign.
Gottsa have Nancy Pelosi show up in the district and tout her boy Foust. It is a rule of the Foust campaign.
Why are you so ashamed to have Nancy's name associated with Foust? If you don't want the two connected, they shouldn't be tied at the hip.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Foust supporter
()
Date: August 04, 2014 10:04AM
Please. Do you think a purple nova highly educated district cannot tell lies from propaganda. We've had a republican representative who has voted the party line every time, even when it was not in the best interest of his district. We do need an independent voice but that is certainly not Comstock
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Foust Double Standard for the Po
()
Date: August 04, 2014 10:08AM
What kind of people tell lies about Medicare like Mrs. Foust does?
Largely ivory tower Democrats.
Largely ivory tower Democrats.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Foust
()
Date: August 04, 2014 10:18AM
So wolf just voted to sue the president and against his principles to give minors due process against sex traffickers and against the dreamers in his district. More of that to come if you vote Comstock
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
trespasser
()
Date: August 04, 2014 10:23AM
Foust Wrote:
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> So wolf just voted to sue the president and
> against his principles to give minors due process
> against sex traffickers and against the dreamers
> in his district. More of that to come if you vote
> Comstock
How big is your house? I have a dream that I should be living in it rather than you. Have your stuff out by 5, my moving truck will be there by 6.
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> So wolf just voted to sue the president and
> against his principles to give minors due process
> against sex traffickers and against the dreamers
> in his district. More of that to come if you vote
> Comstock
How big is your house? I have a dream that I should be living in it rather than you. Have your stuff out by 5, my moving truck will be there by 6.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Honestly
()
Date: August 04, 2014 11:57AM
The Obama administration has governed in defiance of the rule of law and the Constitution. It has been aided and abetted and protected by Eric Holder's Justice Department. Truth told under oath to Congress by Holder about journalist James Rosen investigation? No. Investigation of IRS scandal? No. Investigation of VA scandal? No. An outhouse float labeled "Obama's Presidential Library" in a parade in rural Nebraska? Yes, Holder wants to know what is going on there.
Foust's wife is a long-time business partner of Holder's wife. The last thing NOVA needs is to pair Foust with Obama apologist Gerald Connolly in Congress. Then we will be ensuring absolutely no accountability in government.
Liberals should be just as concerned about government accountability as conservatives.
Foust's wife is a long-time business partner of Holder's wife. The last thing NOVA needs is to pair Foust with Obama apologist Gerald Connolly in Congress. Then we will be ensuring absolutely no accountability in government.
Liberals should be just as concerned about government accountability as conservatives.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Conserva-tards!
()
Date: August 04, 2014 12:11PM
trespasser Wrote:
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> How big is your house? I have a dream that I
> should be living in it rather than you. Have your
> stuff out by 5, my moving truck will be there by
> 6.
Conserva-tards!
LoLz!
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> How big is your house? I have a dream that I
> should be living in it rather than you. Have your
> stuff out by 5, my moving truck will be there by
> 6.
Conserva-tards!
LoLz!
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
My Enemy
()
Date: August 04, 2014 12:12PM
Foust supporter Wrote:
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> Please. Do you think a purple nova highly
> educated district cannot tell lies from
> propaganda. We've had a republican representative
> who has voted the party line every time, even when
> it was not in the best interest of his district.
> We do need an independent voice but that is
> certainly not Comstock
+1,000
Comstock is an enemy of the people!
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> Please. Do you think a purple nova highly
> educated district cannot tell lies from
> propaganda. We've had a republican representative
> who has voted the party line every time, even when
> it was not in the best interest of his district.
> We do need an independent voice but that is
> certainly not Comstock
+1,000
Comstock is an enemy of the people!
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Comstock-tards!
()
Date: August 04, 2014 12:13PM
Loudoun voter Wrote:
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> "Instead of offering solutions, [Foust would]
> rather spend his time attacking Comstock and align
> himself with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi."
>
> Gottsa have Nancy Pelosi's name in all voter
> communications. It is a rule in the Comstock
> campaign.
And Harry Reid's, too!
Comstock-tards!
LoLz!
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> "Instead of offering solutions, [Foust would]
> rather spend his time attacking Comstock and align
> himself with Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi."
>
> Gottsa have Nancy Pelosi's name in all voter
> communications. It is a rule in the Comstock
> campaign.
And Harry Reid's, too!
Comstock-tards!
LoLz!
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
NPV6C
()
Date: August 04, 2014 12:13PM
Honestly Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Obama administration has governed in defiance
> of the rule of law and the Constitution. It has
> been aided and abetted and protected by Eric
> Holder's Justice Department. Truth told under oath
> to Congress by Holder about journalist James Rosen
> investigation? No. Investigation of IRS scandal?
> No. Investigation of VA scandal? No. An outhouse
> float labeled "Obama's Presidential Library" in a
> parade in rural Nebraska? Yes, Holder wants to
> know what is going on there.
>
> Foust's wife is a long-time business partner of
> Holder's wife. The last thing NOVA needs is to
> pair Foust with Obama apologist Gerald Connolly in
> Congress. Then we will be ensuring absolutely no
> accountability in government.
>
> Liberals should be just as concerned about
> government accountability as conservatives.
Well said.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The Obama administration has governed in defiance
> of the rule of law and the Constitution. It has
> been aided and abetted and protected by Eric
> Holder's Justice Department. Truth told under oath
> to Congress by Holder about journalist James Rosen
> investigation? No. Investigation of IRS scandal?
> No. Investigation of VA scandal? No. An outhouse
> float labeled "Obama's Presidential Library" in a
> parade in rural Nebraska? Yes, Holder wants to
> know what is going on there.
>
> Foust's wife is a long-time business partner of
> Holder's wife. The last thing NOVA needs is to
> pair Foust with Obama apologist Gerald Connolly in
> Congress. Then we will be ensuring absolutely no
> accountability in government.
>
> Liberals should be just as concerned about
> government accountability as conservatives.
Well said.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Conserva-tards!
()
Date: August 04, 2014 12:21PM
Honestly Wrote:
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> The Obama administration has governed in defiance
> of the rule of law and the Constitution.
So did Lincoln. So has very president since Jefferson.
You = FAIL.
Conserva-tards!
LoLz!
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> The Obama administration has governed in defiance
> of the rule of law and the Constitution.
So did Lincoln. So has very president since Jefferson.
You = FAIL.
Conserva-tards!
LoLz!
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Historical Accuracy
()
Date: August 04, 2014 12:38PM
Conserva-tards! Wrote:
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> Honestly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Obama administration has governed in
> defiance
> > of the rule of law and the Constitution.
>
> So did Lincoln. So has very president since
> Jefferson.
>
> You = FAIL.
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!
Lincoln did. He also had a hostile army directly across the Potomac River and a state--Maryland--with divided loyalties surrounding him. Also, he was trying to protect the American republic, not avowedly trying to overturn it.
"So has every president since Jefferson." Let's test this assertion. Grover Cleveland served two full terms in the White House. Certainly you can give one example when he ruled in defiance of the rule of law or the Constitution.
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> Honestly Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Obama administration has governed in
> defiance
> > of the rule of law and the Constitution.
>
> So did Lincoln. So has very president since
> Jefferson.
>
> You = FAIL.
>
> Conserva-tards!
>
> LoLz!
Lincoln did. He also had a hostile army directly across the Potomac River and a state--Maryland--with divided loyalties surrounding him. Also, he was trying to protect the American republic, not avowedly trying to overturn it.
"So has every president since Jefferson." Let's test this assertion. Grover Cleveland served two full terms in the White House. Certainly you can give one example when he ruled in defiance of the rule of law or the Constitution.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: August 04, 2014 01:42PM
Would Cleveland using the U.S. Army to break the Pullman strike in violation of posse comitatus qualify? The governor of Illinois felt that he could resolve matters using the state's own resources and told Cleveland not to send in the Army. Cleveland did so anyways.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
About Sums It Up
()
Date: August 04, 2014 02:02PM
Let's Ban Crazy Wrote:
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> Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit what you
> think.
>
> You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
+ 1000
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> Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit what you
> think.
>
> You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
+ 1000
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
johnny ringo
()
Date: August 04, 2014 02:09PM
About Sums It Up Wrote:
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> Let's Ban Crazy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit what
> you
> > think.
> >
> > You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
>
> + 1000
Then move back to New York or New Jersey or whatever shithole you crawled out of.
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> Let's Ban Crazy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit what
> you
> > think.
> >
> > You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
>
> + 1000
Then move back to New York or New Jersey or whatever shithole you crawled out of.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Ain't Happening
()
Date: August 04, 2014 02:41PM
johnny ringo Wrote:
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> About Sums It Up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Let's Ban Crazy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit what
> > you
> > > think.
> > >
> > > You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
> >
> > + 1000
>
>
> Then move back to New York or New Jersey or
> whatever shithole you crawled out of.
Massachusetts. And I don't think so. In case you haven't noticed, Northern Virginia isn't the ignorant redneck hellhole it used to be. Move to Kentucky or Alabama if you can't deal with that reality.
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> About Sums It Up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Let's Ban Crazy Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit what
> > you
> > > think.
> > >
> > > You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
> >
> > + 1000
>
>
> Then move back to New York or New Jersey or
> whatever shithole you crawled out of.
Massachusetts. And I don't think so. In case you haven't noticed, Northern Virginia isn't the ignorant redneck hellhole it used to be. Move to Kentucky or Alabama if you can't deal with that reality.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
repli
()
Date: August 04, 2014 05:32PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Would Cleveland using the U.S. Army to break the
> Pullman strike in violation of posse comitatus
> qualify? The governor of Illinois felt that he
> could resolve matters using the state's own
> resources and told Cleveland not to send in the
> Army. Cleveland did so anyways.
I appreciate the use of facts, and not name-calling in your response.
Is this an example of a violation of the rule of law and the Constitution? I'm not sure what laws or constitutional provisions would have been violated. It certainly was an aggressive federal action in the interest of the railroads and other businesses. However, Cleveland was reluctant to take the step, and there were significant economic dislocation on a national level. Cleveland was able to get court approval on the basis of the mails being interrupted by the strike.
In contrast, the Obama administration has declared it would not enforce laws numerous times. His oath requires him to faithfully execute the laws. Also, last year, he called it unfortunate that Congress has to pass laws before he can take action. Since, he has repeatedly claimed that he would act when Congress does not. Is that allowed by the Constitution? Would a liberal tolerate a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul declaring they would act if a liberal Congress did not pass the laws they wanted?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm suspected that if you were teaching U.S. history, you would emphasize, in a disapproving way, how Cleveland sent in the military against the working-class protestors, putting the power of the federal government behind business interests. Then why is it okay for Obama to use the federal government in an aggressive way to advance the interests of his party?
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> Would Cleveland using the U.S. Army to break the
> Pullman strike in violation of posse comitatus
> qualify? The governor of Illinois felt that he
> could resolve matters using the state's own
> resources and told Cleveland not to send in the
> Army. Cleveland did so anyways.
I appreciate the use of facts, and not name-calling in your response.
Is this an example of a violation of the rule of law and the Constitution? I'm not sure what laws or constitutional provisions would have been violated. It certainly was an aggressive federal action in the interest of the railroads and other businesses. However, Cleveland was reluctant to take the step, and there were significant economic dislocation on a national level. Cleveland was able to get court approval on the basis of the mails being interrupted by the strike.
In contrast, the Obama administration has declared it would not enforce laws numerous times. His oath requires him to faithfully execute the laws. Also, last year, he called it unfortunate that Congress has to pass laws before he can take action. Since, he has repeatedly claimed that he would act when Congress does not. Is that allowed by the Constitution? Would a liberal tolerate a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul declaring they would act if a liberal Congress did not pass the laws they wanted?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm suspected that if you were teaching U.S. history, you would emphasize, in a disapproving way, how Cleveland sent in the military against the working-class protestors, putting the power of the federal government behind business interests. Then why is it okay for Obama to use the federal government in an aggressive way to advance the interests of his party?
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: August 04, 2014 05:42PM
What the fuck is this dumb ass thread about again? The OP sounded like a complete moron with no business starting a thread in the first 3 or 4 sentences. I gave up after that.
Vote against that Neo Con Cumstock and throw these Teatards out of here.
Vote against that Neo Con Cumstock and throw these Teatards out of here.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Red Foxxx
()
Date: August 04, 2014 05:59PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> What the fuck is this dumb ass thread about again?
> The OP sounded like a complete moron with no
> business starting a thread in the first 3 or 4
> sentences. I gave up after that.
>
> Vote against that Neo Con Cumstock and throw these
> Teatards out of here.
If you feel comfortable having Democrats Gerald Connolly and John Foust (family associate of Eric Holder) responsible for defending Congress's constitutional prerogatives and holding the Obama administration legally accountable for their actions, then I guess you'll vote for them.
If you go buy some chickens, then I'm also guessing you'll hire a fox to watch the henhouse.
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> What the fuck is this dumb ass thread about again?
> The OP sounded like a complete moron with no
> business starting a thread in the first 3 or 4
> sentences. I gave up after that.
>
> Vote against that Neo Con Cumstock and throw these
> Teatards out of here.
If you feel comfortable having Democrats Gerald Connolly and John Foust (family associate of Eric Holder) responsible for defending Congress's constitutional prerogatives and holding the Obama administration legally accountable for their actions, then I guess you'll vote for them.
If you go buy some chickens, then I'm also guessing you'll hire a fox to watch the henhouse.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
locusts
()
Date: August 04, 2014 07:24PM
Ain't Happening Wrote:
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> johnny ringo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > About Sums It Up Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Let's Ban Crazy Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit
> what
> > > you
> > > > think.
> > > >
> > > > You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
> > >
> > > + 1000
> >
> >
> > Then move back to New York or New Jersey or
> > whatever shithole you crawled out of.
>
> Massachusetts. And I don't think so. In case you
> haven't noticed, Northern Virginia isn't the
> ignorant redneck hellhole it used to be. Move to
> Kentucky or Alabama if you can't deal with that
> reality.
A Masshole. Big surprise.
Everyone I know fro MA fled because of its oppressive tax regime. Why'd you leave that shithole?
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> johnny ringo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > About Sums It Up Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Let's Ban Crazy Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Hey Stacy, I, for one, don't give a shit
> what
> > > you
> > > > think.
> > > >
> > > > You teabaggers are too crazy for NoVA.
> > >
> > > + 1000
> >
> >
> > Then move back to New York or New Jersey or
> > whatever shithole you crawled out of.
>
> Massachusetts. And I don't think so. In case you
> haven't noticed, Northern Virginia isn't the
> ignorant redneck hellhole it used to be. Move to
> Kentucky or Alabama if you can't deal with that
> reality.
A Masshole. Big surprise.
Everyone I know fro MA fled because of its oppressive tax regime. Why'd you leave that shithole?
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: August 05, 2014 07:54PM
repli Wrote:
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> Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm suspected that if you
> were teaching U.S. history, you would emphasize,
> in a disapproving way, how Cleveland sent in the
> military against the working-class protestors,
> putting the power of the federal government behind
> business interests.
I would hope I presented it as I did here. From an early 21st century perspective it is probably hard to understand just how important the Posse Comitatus law was in the late 19th century. It actually was intended to strip the president of authorization to use the army in this manner. If I started arguing about the military oppressing the working-classes I would be arguing the greater good. I am sure that Cleveland felt he was acting for the greater good, and many Republicans and business owners probably agreed. However workers and Southerners did not.
OK I have a somewhat complicated relationship with liberalism. In part that stems from an understanding that liberals are not always going to be in control of the government. The exception we argue today may be used against us tomorrow. You mention Mr. Obama's transgressions in this respect, but are you prepared to apply the same standard to his immediate predecessor? G.W. Bush had the balls to essentially sign Acts of Congress into law with his fingers crossed.
I see nothing wrong with any president saying it is unfortunate that Congress has to act before he can. It is simply recognizing that following the rules can be a bitch. And yes there are extreme situations where I would recognize that a president could act without authorization or contrary to the rules, but it would involve a Pearl Harbor or Katrina type situation.
Now I am certain that you are not talking in the abstract, but instead have some specific Obama transgressions in mind. One problem you may run into though is unlike Cleveland in the Pullman strike, the laws in your situation may not be as clear.
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> Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm suspected that if you
> were teaching U.S. history, you would emphasize,
> in a disapproving way, how Cleveland sent in the
> military against the working-class protestors,
> putting the power of the federal government behind
> business interests.
I would hope I presented it as I did here. From an early 21st century perspective it is probably hard to understand just how important the Posse Comitatus law was in the late 19th century. It actually was intended to strip the president of authorization to use the army in this manner. If I started arguing about the military oppressing the working-classes I would be arguing the greater good. I am sure that Cleveland felt he was acting for the greater good, and many Republicans and business owners probably agreed. However workers and Southerners did not.
OK I have a somewhat complicated relationship with liberalism. In part that stems from an understanding that liberals are not always going to be in control of the government. The exception we argue today may be used against us tomorrow. You mention Mr. Obama's transgressions in this respect, but are you prepared to apply the same standard to his immediate predecessor? G.W. Bush had the balls to essentially sign Acts of Congress into law with his fingers crossed.
I see nothing wrong with any president saying it is unfortunate that Congress has to act before he can. It is simply recognizing that following the rules can be a bitch. And yes there are extreme situations where I would recognize that a president could act without authorization or contrary to the rules, but it would involve a Pearl Harbor or Katrina type situation.
Now I am certain that you are not talking in the abstract, but instead have some specific Obama transgressions in mind. One problem you may run into though is unlike Cleveland in the Pullman strike, the laws in your situation may not be as clear.
Re: Foust’s claims cross the line
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f4m craigmackslist
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Date: August 05, 2014 08:40PM
Holy shit balls, Bill.N.
Your responses have taken an elaborate and, dare I say, even keeled bent in the last couple of weeks. You are probably the most rational of any of the prolific posters in teh threadz in the last month.
Where did you get your law degree and are you on vacation?
Your responses have taken an elaborate and, dare I say, even keeled bent in the last couple of weeks. You are probably the most rational of any of the prolific posters in teh threadz in the last month.
Where did you get your law degree and are you on vacation?