It would appear that Virginia Run will be getting at least 120 new students as part of the Unaccompanied Minor Program. The kids are currently being housed at the Youth for Tomorrow center in Prince William County but many are due to be relocated to Fairfax County next month.

Have run with that, white people.

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> It would appear that Virginia Run will be getting
> at least 120 new students as part of the
> Unaccompanied Minor Program. The kids are
> currently being housed at the Youth for Tomorrow
> center in Prince William County but many are due
> to be relocated to Fairfax County next month.
>
> Have run with that, white people.


Having run

I'm white and, ironically, I did get the runs after I crossed the border into Mexico

Do you have a source for this? Why are kids being housed at a shelter in Prince William Co attending a school in Fairfax Co?

I doubt they will be sent to VA Run. Fact: they will be sent somewhere and all of us are paying for it.
Most of these "unaccompanied kids" are probably teen men--not likely to be at VA Run. ICE is not turning away families and most of the children ARE accompanied. Look at the pictures--mostly teen boys or moms with small children. According to ICE policy, kids are allowed in--and so are the families that accompany them. We need for the government to release real data on this: but good luck with that.

This company has been trying to keep track of where all the kids are going and it's pretty hush hush everywhere. The govt is telling people to keep their mouths shut.

Reports are saying 2/3 have already had their paperwork approved for asylum.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/not-my-backyard-feds-efforts-relocate-illegal-aliens-border

Whichever side of the political fence you sit, it isn't sad that it seems routine that government leaders routinely conceal their actions and obfuscate on their policies so that citizens and taxpayers are not clear about what they are doing, and we accept it as standard operating procedure?

We're just a bunch of sheep, work, sleep, eat, repeat. Anything goes.

Nueva escuela de do Virginia Run.
Attachments:

Other places in VA...

Northern Virginia Juvenile Detention (IMPLEMENTED)
200 S Whiting St
Alexandria, VA 22304

This location was confirmed by a source to NumbersUSA. Please email for additional information: moubre@numbersusa.com

LINK: https://www.alexandriava.gov/dchs/childrenfamily/default.aspx?id=50666

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Shenandoah Valley Juvenile Center (IMPLEMENTED)
This location was confirmed by a source to NumbersUSA. Please email for additional information: moubre@numbersusa.com

LINK: http://www.svjc.org/

Soon public schools will be like medicaid - something you're happy to have if there is no other choice, but something no one will really want as a first choice. Garza's comment on redistricting was to "promote a more equal distribution of resources to eliminate “pockets of excellence,”. FCPS is bent on destroying the "pockets" of good schools like Langley and Oakton. They would prefer every HS look like Herndon and Sout Lakes. Watch them carve up the map over the next few years to address income inequality.

Bristow, VA- Youth For Tomorrow Center (IMPLEMENTED)
Last Updated by Melanie on Jul 10
NumbersUSA got word from a local official that this youth center is housing illegal aliens. Their website confirms the claim.

http://www.youthfortomorrow.org/Residential-Services

"Founded by Joe Gibbs"

I wonder whether this is what old Joe had in mind when he provided all that money.

This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.

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> This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.


Talk to us when they start taking merchant marine jobs....

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> This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.

How about this:

Every bed provided to an illegal immigrant is one less that could be used by people like the son of Sen. Creigh Deeds.

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> > This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.
>
>
> Talk to us when they start taking merchant marine
> jobs....

Who is they?

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> BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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> > This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.
>
> How about this:
>
> Every bed provided to an illegal immigrant is one
> less that could be used by people like the son of
> Sen. Creigh Deeds.

No, that's equally stupid.

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> Nueva escuela de do Virginia Run.


what school is that 2 white kidds?

Four actually, so I guess it's okay.

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> This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.

Math is not scaremongering. It is an objective fact.

Brian, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the economic concepts of the free rider problem or the tragedy of the commons. Adding potentially thousands of students to the local systems, with no additional households paying taxes on houses or apartments, is the free rider problem come to life.

cTmWY Wrote:
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> This company has been trying to keep track of
> where all the kids are going and it's pretty hush
> hush everywhere. The govt is telling people to
> keep their mouths shut.

And you know this how?

> Reports are saying 2/3 have already had their
> paperwork approved for asylum.

Ridiculous. This is right up there with 'They say [fill in the blank]'.

> https://www.numbersusa.com/news/not-my-backyard-feds-efforts-relocate-illegal-aliens-border

Oh, come on. You can't reference an anti-immigrant site and expect to have any credibility.

I'm not happy about this situation either, but no one needs this kind of speculation and paranoia. It just serves to inflame the nuts, of which we have far too many already.

Busing, 2010's style Wrote:
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> BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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> > This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.
>
> Math is not scaremongering. It is an objective
> fact.
>
> Brian, I suggest you familiarize yourself with the
> economic concepts of the free rider problem or the
> tragedy of the commons. Adding potentially
> thousands of students to the local systems, with
> no additional households paying taxes on houses or
> apartments, is the free rider problem come to
> life.

I'm familiar with both.

So far, there is no evidence that there are going to be any kids in Fairfax and there's no evidence that the kids in PWC (however many there actually are - that's not clear either) are going to be there long term, so this kind of thing is just scaremongering.

It's the kind of thing that makes it impossible to actually address any illegal immigration related issues.

Half the students at Virginia Run seem to come from that one tiny South of the Border trailer park. I can't imagine that many children actually live there-are they being dropped off from other locations?

BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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> > BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
> >
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> > > This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.
> >
> >
> > Talk to us when they start taking merchant
> marine
> > jobs....
>
> Who is they?


Who are we talking about in this thread? Too dense to contextualize?

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> >
> > > -----
> > > > This kind of scaremongering is unnecessary.
> > >
> > >
> > > Talk to us when they start taking merchant
> > marine
> > > jobs....
> >
> > Who is they?
>
>
> Who are we talking about in this thread? Too
> dense to contextualize?

No, I'm just trying to figure out why anybody would think that unaccompanied children would be taking merchant mariner jobs.

Brian, don't try to rationalize facts with Republicans. They are far too stupid to understand.

Do they embarrass you? Your fractured party.

Libs want more of them. They need house servants for their 21st century faux aristocratic lifestyles with someone to mow their lawns, clean their bathrooms, and be a nanny for their children while they attend another Obama fundraiser for $34k a plate. "Oh look honey, little Zoe said 'reconquista'. Maria, what does that mean?"

Must suck being poor, unhappy and stupid.

We are scared that illegal immigration is putting a strain on our jails, courts, schools, health system, and law enforcement community.

It either is, or is not. Common Sense seems to dictate that it is.

Of course, Virginia has not yet deployed the National Guard to help.

Sweet Tea Party Wrote:
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> Brian, don't try to rationalize facts with
> Republicans. They are far too stupid to
> understand.
>
> Do they embarrass you? Your fractured party.

Only the nativists.

Busing, 2010's style Wrote:
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> Soon public schools will be like medicaid -
> something you're happy to have if there is no
> other choice, but something no one will really
> want as a first choice. Garza's comment on
> redistricting was to "promote a more equal
> distribution of resources to eliminate “pockets
> of excellence,”. FCPS is bent on destroying the
> "pockets" of good schools like Langley and Oakton.
> They would prefer every HS look like Herndon and
> Sout Lakes. Watch them carve up the map over the
> next few years to address income inequality.


This is exactly why the previous FCPS school board destroyed Clifton Elementary-to wipe out excellence which stuck out from the underachieving "subgroup populations". Every person on the school board who voted for that closure knew exactly what they were doing: getting rid of the evidence of high-performing student populations who aren't immigrants, spoke English, had mostly well-educated 2 parent homes and who weren't free & reduced meal students using a lot of services.
If kids from those backgrounds consistently do well and other kids from backgrounds which aren't similar don't, it means the public school system will always need more money for achievement gaps they will never be able to close.
Sad, but true.
Liberal friends who know the truth won't speak it for fear of party high-jackers' retribution. Old-school blues need to speak out & up.

Prepare yourselves. See the recent board matter by Penny Gross to the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors:

http://fcnp.com/2014/07/03/a-penny-for-your-thoughts-news-of-greater-falls-church-156/
A Penny for Your Thoughts: News of Greater Falls Church
JULY 3, 2014 8:58 AM0 COMMENTS
By Penny Gross
prenny-fcnp

Happy 4th of July! I hope all the parades, picnics, and fireworks will be terrific! There are so many places in the world today where the “rockets’ red glare and bombs bursting in air” actually are military armaments, not carefully planned colorful displays we enjoy at the Mall or local park. I am thankful every day that we live in such a great, and peaceful, nation. No wonder people want to come here.

And there’s the rub. Recent media reports have focused on thousands of children fleeing to the United States from Central and South America, unaccompanied by their parents or other responsible adults. The federal government, according to the reports, is housing the children in old federal facilities in Arizona, California, and Texas, while efforts to identify the children and what to do about them continue. The numbers apparently have overwhelmed the ability of the Border Patrol and other federal agencies to handle the situation. Last week, the small town of Lawrenceville, Virginia, near the North Carolina border, was in the news when it learned of a federal plan to house 500 children at St. Paul’s College, a historic black college that is closing. The town of about 1400 residents apparently had not been consulted ahead of time, and town leaders were concerned about how its existing infrastructure – police, fire protection, schools – could handle an increase of so many children at once. No one had time to plan.

And there’s another rub. Local governments provide local services; the feds don’t. Local governments plan for gradual growth in services needed by residents and businesses, based on trends tracked across time. While extra services, such as those generated by weather-related incidents, usually can be accommodated on an emergency basis for a short time, the situation is much different for long-term needs. Long-term planning is critical, and that is why, at Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors meeting, I asked County Executive Ed Long to examine the issues and provide the Board with recommendations about steps that may be needed to handle an unexpected influx of unaccompanied children, if such an event should occur, and report back at our July 29 Board meeting.

Fairfax County has a long history of welcoming newcomers. In the mid-1970s, Vietnamese refugees, many with professional degrees, came to Fairfax after the fall of Saigon. In the early 1980s, Afghani refugees, including educators and engineers, came after the Russians invaded their homeland. They have opened businesses, raised families, and became an integral part of the diverse tapestry of our community. In 2005, after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf Coast, Fairfax County welcomed a few hundred families who were forced out of their homes. Volunteers and non-profit agencies stepped forward, as did the school system, to provide temporary assistance for about a year, until the families could return home.

We should be able to meet any challenge, with good planning. That’s the gist of my Board Matter, and something to think about on Independence Day.

Bienvenidos Wrote:
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> Prepare yourselves. See the recent board matter by
> Penny Gross to the Fairfax County Board of
> Supervisors:
>
> http://fcnp.com/2014/07/03/a-penny-for-your-though
> ts-news-of-greater-falls-church-156/
> A Penny for Your Thoughts: News of Greater Falls
> Church
> JULY 3, 2014 8:58 AM0 COMMENTS
> By Penny Gross
> prenny-fcnp
>
> Happy 4th of July! I hope all the parades,
> picnics, and fireworks will be terrific! There are
> so many places in the world today where the
> “rockets’ red glare and bombs bursting in
> air” actually are military armaments, not
> carefully planned colorful displays we enjoy at
> the Mall or local park. I am thankful every day
> that we live in such a great, and peaceful,
> nation. No wonder people want to come here.
>
> And there’s the rub. Recent media reports have
> focused on thousands of children fleeing to the
> United States from Central and South America,
> unaccompanied by their parents or other
> responsible adults. The federal government,
> according to the reports, is housing the children
> in old federal facilities in Arizona, California,
> and Texas, while efforts to identify the children
> and what to do about them continue. The numbers
> apparently have overwhelmed the ability of the
> Border Patrol and other federal agencies to handle
> the situation. Last week, the small town of
> Lawrenceville, Virginia, near the North Carolina
> border, was in the news when it learned of a
> federal plan to house 500 children at St. Paul’s
> College, a historic black college that is closing.
> The town of about 1400 residents apparently had
> not been consulted ahead of time, and town leaders
> were concerned about how its existing
> infrastructure – police, fire protection,
> schools – could handle an increase of so many
> children at once. No one had time to plan.
>
> And there’s another rub. Local governments
> provide local services; the feds don’t. Local
> governments plan for gradual growth in services
> needed by residents and businesses, based on
> trends tracked across time. While extra services,
> such as those generated by weather-related
> incidents, usually can be accommodated on an
> emergency basis for a short time, the situation is
> much different for long-term needs. Long-term
> planning is critical, and that is why, at
> Tuesday’s Board of Supervisors meeting, I asked
> County Executive Ed Long to examine the issues and
> provide the Board with recommendations about steps
> that may be needed to handle an unexpected influx
> of unaccompanied children, if such an event should
> occur, and report back at our July 29 Board
> meeting.
>
> Fairfax County has a long history of welcoming
> newcomers. In the mid-1970s, Vietnamese refugees,
> many with professional degrees, came to Fairfax
> after the fall of Saigon. In the early 1980s,
> Afghani refugees, including educators and
> engineers, came after the Russians invaded their
> homeland. They have opened businesses, raised
> families, and became an integral part of the
> diverse tapestry of our community. In 2005, after
> Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf
> Coast, Fairfax County welcomed a few hundred
> families who were forced out of their homes.
> Volunteers and non-profit agencies stepped
> forward, as did the school system, to provide
> temporary assistance for about a year, until the
> families could return home.
>
> We should be able to meet any challenge, with good
> planning. That’s the gist of my Board Matter,
> and something to think about on Independence Day.

This is just the first wave, now that the families in Central America see that they can get asylm here in the US, there will be alot more showing up at the border.

Penny,

How are the ghettoization of Fairfax and the complete destruction of an already tottering and declining school system good for the taxpaying citizens of VA?

Many immigrants are hard-working, good people and should not be demonized. A healthy immigration is good for our nation. The Obama immigration crisis, however, is incredibly destructive, and the large wave of immigrants that you are planning for would obviously negatively impact our schools, public safety, and housing prices.

I assume Obama and Pelosi sat Gerald Connolly down, who sat you down. Too bad that, instead, we had political leaders who focused on the interests of the nation's citizens, rather than working against them.

We are all for immigration, however we are all AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!

I want to try and have a debate (I know laughable) about the poster above talking about busting up homogenous high performing districts

Google all this stuff I dont have time to pull up the studies

When schools are over 40% FARMS they fail/require huge amounts of resources to continually fight the achievement gap
Smart kids will thrive anywhere

Fairfax County is around 20-35% FARMS. If we distribute these kids throughout the system long term its a net positive.

The current system of pockets of ghetto isn't helping anyone creating a permanent underclass.

Like noted above smart kids will thrive anywhere. Also in the new model smart kids won't see a reduction in services and continued increases in class sizes. (which is the current policy)

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> > > > > This kind of scaremongering is
> unnecessary.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Talk to us when they start taking merchant
> > > marine
> > > > jobs....
> > >
> > > Who is they?
> >
> >
> > Who are we talking about in this thread? Too
> > dense to contextualize?
>
> No, I'm just trying to figure out why anybody
> would think that unaccompanied children would be
> taking merchant mariner jobs.


Yes, they will stay children forever. They are modern day lost boys who never grow up...

"I want to try and have a debate (I know laughable) about the poster above talking about busting up homogenous high performing districts

Google all this stuff I dont have time to pull up the studies

When schools are over 40% FARMS they fail/require huge amounts of resources to continually fight the achievement gap
Smart kids will thrive anywhere

Fairfax County is around 20-35% FARMS. If we distribute these kids throughout the system long term its a net positive.

The current system of pockets of ghetto isn't helping anyone creating a permanent underclass.

Like noted above smart kids will thrive anywhere. Also in the new model smart kids won't see a reduction in services and continued increases in class sizes. (which is the current policy)"




If smart kids will thrive anywhere, why do we have GT/AAP centers? Does that system create a permanent overclass?

And further---why do we have TJ?

hummm Wrote:
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> I want to try and have a debate (I know laughable)
> about the poster above talking about busting up
> homogenous high performing districts
>
> Google all this stuff I dont have time to pull up
> the studies
>
> When schools are over 40% FARMS they fail/require
> huge amounts of resources to continually fight the
> achievement gap
> Smart kids will thrive anywhere
>
> Fairfax County is around 20-35% FARMS. If we
> distribute these kids throughout the system long
> term its a net positive.
>
> The current system of pockets of ghetto isn't
> helping anyone creating a permanent underclass.
>
> Like noted above smart kids will thrive anywhere.
> Also in the new model smart kids won't see a
> reduction in services and continued increases in
> class sizes. (which is the current policy)


I also always appreciate when it is a discussion and not a name-calling match. So please allow me to address your points in a respectable manner.

First, smart kids do generally thrive and can do well in many environments. But there are limits. I actually think the biggest challenge to smart kids today is not socioeconomic diversity but the deadly dull, pedantic learning that goes along with the SOL regime in schools today. We know many, many bright kids who have really struggled because of the deadly dull and meaningless educational programs in place today.

As you acknowledge, school environments can be challenging when FARMS levels reach about 40%. I don't know what they are in FCPS in aggregate. But assuming the range you give (20-35%) is accurate, we can certainly anticipate that they will rise over the next two decades, especially given the current immigration crisis. If we then distribute the FARMS population equally, the whole system will be extremely challenged. Who would buy a house in the county if they had other choices? Who would send their kids to these schools if they had other choices?

two sides of the mouth? Wrote:
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> "I want to try and have a debate (I know
> laughable) about the poster above talking about
> busting up homogenous high performing districts
>
> Google all this stuff I dont have time to pull up
> the studies
>
> When schools are over 40% FARMS they fail/require
> huge amounts of resources to continually fight the
> achievement gap
> Smart kids will thrive anywhere
>
> Fairfax County is around 20-35% FARMS. If we
> distribute these kids throughout the system long
> term its a net positive.
>
> The current system of pockets of ghetto isn't
> helping anyone creating a permanent underclass.
>
> Like noted above smart kids will thrive anywhere.
> Also in the new model smart kids won't see a
> reduction in services and continued increases in
> class sizes. (which is the current policy)"
>
>
>
>
> If smart kids will thrive anywhere, why do we have
> GT/AAP centers? Does that system create a
> permanent overclass?


Smart kids will NOT thrive anywhere. This is no different than saying a severely retarded child will thrive anywhere. Would you put a child with an IQ of 80 in an college class and think everything will be fine? NO.

Soon English is going to be counted as a foreign language class in schools.

FCPS is over 26% FARMS now, rate is higher in lower grades. County is facing an impact from the continuing massive influx of illegal immigrants across the Mexican border. The rate will approach, if not surpass 40% in the next decade.

It's not the kids' fault. They should be educated if here. I would personally hope they are treated with respect and compassion. But the burden will truly be unbearable if the Obama administration does not throw this train into reverse and continues instead to throw coal on the fire.

The government will be keeping them until new "parents" can be found to adopt them. The government (your taxes) will be paying people the necessary "child support" funds per child adopted. A way for illegals or legals to earn extra income if they will take on some of the new kids as "family" and raise them.