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Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Sprawl and Crawl
()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:21AM
Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
http://www.insidenova.com/news/fairfax/vienna-town-council-oks-subdivision-on-edge-of-historic-district/article_37c1f5e0-0da1-11e4-8017-001a4bcf887a.html
The Vienna Town Council voted unanimously July 7 to allow a developer to subdivide a property in the town’s Windover Heights Historic District and add two more houses.
The site now is home to a house at 130 Pleasant St., N.W., which was built in 1910 and will be retained under the subdivision agreement. Town officials acknowledged that nothing in the accord would preclude the old house from being torn down in the future.
The existing house and two new homes will be accessed via a new cul-de-sac and listed under the addresses 301, 303 and 305 Salsbury Lane, N.W. The current house’s driveway and detached garage will be removed to make way for the new Andrew Minor Subdivision.
Emergency vehicles will be able to access the cul-de-sac in case of an incident and subsequently back out onto Pleasant Street, said Deputy Public Works Director Michael Gallagher.
The subdivision will feature a stormwater-detention facility under its yard along Pleasant Street, which will handle water from the site and the surrounding area, said Vienna Planning and Zoning Director Greg Hembree.
The 3,500-square-foot stormwater facility will reduce peak runoff by 30 percent from a storm severe enough to occur only once per decade, said Anthony Venafro of SMITH Engineering, an agent for property owner Michael Covel.
Council member Emil Attanasi inquired whether it would not be better to construct the stormwater facility out of concrete rather than corrugated metal, but Gallagher assured him there was little chance a vehicle would drive over the water-detention area and damage it.
The Vienna Planning Commission on May 14 unanimously recommended approval of the new subdivision. But Planning Commission member Charles Anderson, who lives across the street from the site, said the decision was not easy for him.
The development will necessitate cutting down some tall trees along Pleasant Street and will increase the number of streetlights on that short section of road, Anderson said.
While Vienna follows Fairfax County’s streetlight standards, Gallagher offered to inquire, as Anderson’s request, whether the additional lighting equipment could be the sort that minimizes light spillover.
Council member Pasha Majdi asked Hembree how often town officials granted waivers to developers. The Planning and Zoning director replied that town staff members review such requests and that “95 percent of the stuff you see has been ‘sanitized.’”
Hembree also fielded a query from Council member Carey Sienicki, who inquired whether it would be possible to continue listing the site’s housing addresses under Pleasant Street, which would maintain congruence with notations in local history books.
Hembree responded that the new Salsbury Lane addresses stemmed from zoning-code requirements regarding side-yard setbacks.
Judi Medwedeff, who lives on nearby Windover Avenue, N.W., opposed the addition of sidewalks, curb and gutter at the site because they would not be in keeping with the rest of the town’s historic district.
Mayor Laurie DiRocco said the new sidewalk would connect with the adjacent Maple Avenue commercial corridor and that not requiring such a pathway would necessitate a waiver.
Curb and gutter were required by town code and will help channel stormwater properly, Venafro added.
But Medwedeff’s husband, David, inveighed against the subdivision, calling it a “pipe-stem [site] with a glorified cul-de-sac that will dramatically the character of the historic district.”
Before voting, Majdi summed up several Council members’ positions by saying the developer would end up building one less house at the site than otherwise would have been allowed.
“Single-family detached homes generally are considered good in town,” he said. “Three is better than four.”
http://www.insidenova.com/news/fairfax/vienna-town-council-oks-subdivision-on-edge-of-historic-district/article_37c1f5e0-0da1-11e4-8017-001a4bcf887a.html
The Vienna Town Council voted unanimously July 7 to allow a developer to subdivide a property in the town’s Windover Heights Historic District and add two more houses.
The site now is home to a house at 130 Pleasant St., N.W., which was built in 1910 and will be retained under the subdivision agreement. Town officials acknowledged that nothing in the accord would preclude the old house from being torn down in the future.
The existing house and two new homes will be accessed via a new cul-de-sac and listed under the addresses 301, 303 and 305 Salsbury Lane, N.W. The current house’s driveway and detached garage will be removed to make way for the new Andrew Minor Subdivision.
Emergency vehicles will be able to access the cul-de-sac in case of an incident and subsequently back out onto Pleasant Street, said Deputy Public Works Director Michael Gallagher.
The subdivision will feature a stormwater-detention facility under its yard along Pleasant Street, which will handle water from the site and the surrounding area, said Vienna Planning and Zoning Director Greg Hembree.
The 3,500-square-foot stormwater facility will reduce peak runoff by 30 percent from a storm severe enough to occur only once per decade, said Anthony Venafro of SMITH Engineering, an agent for property owner Michael Covel.
Council member Emil Attanasi inquired whether it would not be better to construct the stormwater facility out of concrete rather than corrugated metal, but Gallagher assured him there was little chance a vehicle would drive over the water-detention area and damage it.
The Vienna Planning Commission on May 14 unanimously recommended approval of the new subdivision. But Planning Commission member Charles Anderson, who lives across the street from the site, said the decision was not easy for him.
The development will necessitate cutting down some tall trees along Pleasant Street and will increase the number of streetlights on that short section of road, Anderson said.
While Vienna follows Fairfax County’s streetlight standards, Gallagher offered to inquire, as Anderson’s request, whether the additional lighting equipment could be the sort that minimizes light spillover.
Council member Pasha Majdi asked Hembree how often town officials granted waivers to developers. The Planning and Zoning director replied that town staff members review such requests and that “95 percent of the stuff you see has been ‘sanitized.’”
Hembree also fielded a query from Council member Carey Sienicki, who inquired whether it would be possible to continue listing the site’s housing addresses under Pleasant Street, which would maintain congruence with notations in local history books.
Hembree responded that the new Salsbury Lane addresses stemmed from zoning-code requirements regarding side-yard setbacks.
Judi Medwedeff, who lives on nearby Windover Avenue, N.W., opposed the addition of sidewalks, curb and gutter at the site because they would not be in keeping with the rest of the town’s historic district.
Mayor Laurie DiRocco said the new sidewalk would connect with the adjacent Maple Avenue commercial corridor and that not requiring such a pathway would necessitate a waiver.
Curb and gutter were required by town code and will help channel stormwater properly, Venafro added.
But Medwedeff’s husband, David, inveighed against the subdivision, calling it a “pipe-stem [site] with a glorified cul-de-sac that will dramatically the character of the historic district.”
Before voting, Majdi summed up several Council members’ positions by saying the developer would end up building one less house at the site than otherwise would have been allowed.
“Single-family detached homes generally are considered good in town,” he said. “Three is better than four.”
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
More importantly
()
Date: July 18, 2014 09:32AM
Will there be yet another mattress store?
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Thruxton
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:10AM
That's funny, the thought of the town council ever saying "no" to any developer who wants to cram in a few more McMansions...
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Sertanly
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:13AM
Or mattress stores.
Always room for more.
Always room for more.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Dickensian Paradigm
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:14AM
I hope the developer sleeps well at night...on his slave-labor made mattress.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Mayor DiRocco
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:15AM
You can still have a good night's sleep on us, but mattress stores are going the way of blacksmith shops in Vienna. Soon enough, we'll all need to schlep out to Centreville or some other god-forsaken spot to fill our bedding needs.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Mayor Dirocco
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:16AM
Thruxton Wrote:
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> That's funny, the thought of the town council ever
> saying "no" to any developer who wants to cram in
> a few more McMansions...
LOL! Obviously, you are not a developer.
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> That's funny, the thought of the town council ever
> saying "no" to any developer who wants to cram in
> a few more McMansions...
LOL! Obviously, you are not a developer.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Older Colored Resident
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:28AM
This is not news...
News would be the Vienna Town Council denying a developer anything. Of course, if that happened, roosters would stop chasing hens, women would stop chasing men, and Mohammed Ali would be the champ again!
News would be the Vienna Town Council denying a developer anything. Of course, if that happened, roosters would stop chasing hens, women would stop chasing men, and Mohammed Ali would be the champ again!
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Rug Doctor
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:30AM
Mayor DiRocco Wrote:
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> You can still have a good night's sleep on us, but
> mattress stores are going the way of blacksmith
> shops in Vienna. Soon enough, we'll all need to
> schlep out to Centreville or some other
> god-forsaken spot to fill our bedding needs.
Don't worry, you'll still have the carpet stores.
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> You can still have a good night's sleep on us, but
> mattress stores are going the way of blacksmith
> shops in Vienna. Soon enough, we'll all need to
> schlep out to Centreville or some other
> god-forsaken spot to fill our bedding needs.
Don't worry, you'll still have the carpet stores.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Asshole Report #14-0071
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:37AM
It's my fucking place, asshole goobers.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Vienna resident
()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:13AM
The new McMansions will be located next to the new Vienna streetcar entrance.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
green hornet
()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:16AM
Sprawl and Crawl Wrote:
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> Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of
> historic district
> http://www.insidenova.com/news/fairfax/vienna-town
> -council-oks-subdivision-on-edge-of-historic-distr
> ict/article_37c1f5e0-0da1-11e4-8017-001a4bcf887a.h
> tml
>
> The Vienna Town Council voted unanimously July 7
> to allow a developer to subdivide a property in
> the town’s Windover Heights Historic District
> and add two more houses.
>
> The site now is home to a house at 130 Pleasant
> St., N.W., which was built in 1910 and will be
> retained under the subdivision agreement. Town
> officials acknowledged that nothing in the accord
> would preclude the old house from being torn down
> in the future.
>
>
>
>
>
> The existing house and two new homes will be
> accessed via a new cul-de-sac and listed under the
> addresses 301, 303 and 305 Salsbury Lane, N.W. The
> current house’s driveway and detached garage
> will be removed to make way for the new Andrew
> Minor Subdivision.
>
> Emergency vehicles will be able to access the
> cul-de-sac in case of an incident and subsequently
> back out onto Pleasant Street, said Deputy Public
> Works Director Michael Gallagher.
>
> The subdivision will feature a
> stormwater-detention facility under its yard along
> Pleasant Street, which will handle water from the
> site and the surrounding area, said Vienna
> Planning and Zoning Director Greg Hembree.
>
> The 3,500-square-foot stormwater facility will
> reduce peak runoff by 30 percent from a storm
> severe enough to occur only once per decade, said
> Anthony Venafro of SMITH Engineering, an agent for
> property owner Michael Covel.
>
> Council member Emil Attanasi inquired whether it
> would not be better to construct the stormwater
> facility out of concrete rather than corrugated
> metal, but Gallagher assured him there was little
> chance a vehicle would drive over the
> water-detention area and damage it.
>
> The Vienna Planning Commission on May 14
> unanimously recommended approval of the new
> subdivision. But Planning Commission member
> Charles Anderson, who lives across the street from
> the site, said the decision was not easy for him.
>
> The development will necessitate cutting down some
> tall trees along Pleasant Street and will increase
> the number of streetlights on that short section
> of road, Anderson said.
>
> While Vienna follows Fairfax County’s
> streetlight standards, Gallagher offered to
> inquire, as Anderson’s request, whether the
> additional lighting equipment could be the sort
> that minimizes light spillover.
>
> Council member Pasha Majdi asked Hembree how often
> town officials granted waivers to developers. The
> Planning and Zoning director replied that town
> staff members review such requests and that “95
> percent of the stuff you see has been
> ‘sanitized.’”
>
> Hembree also fielded a query from Council member
> Carey Sienicki, who inquired whether it would be
> possible to continue listing the site’s housing
> addresses under Pleasant Street, which would
> maintain congruence with notations in local
> history books.
>
> Hembree responded that the new Salsbury Lane
> addresses stemmed from zoning-code requirements
> regarding side-yard setbacks.
>
> Judi Medwedeff, who lives on nearby Windover
> Avenue, N.W., opposed the addition of sidewalks,
> curb and gutter at the site because they would not
> be in keeping with the rest of the town’s
> historic district.
>
> Mayor Laurie DiRocco said the new sidewalk would
> connect with the adjacent Maple Avenue commercial
> corridor and that not requiring such a pathway
> would necessitate a waiver.
>
> Curb and gutter were required by town code and
> will help channel stormwater properly, Venafro
> added.
>
> But Medwedeff’s husband, David, inveighed
> against the subdivision, calling it a “pipe-stem
> [site] with a glorified cul-de-sac that will
> dramatically the character of the historic
> district.”
>
> Before voting, Majdi summed up several Council
> members’ positions by saying the developer would
> end up building one less house at the site than
> otherwise would have been allowed.
>
> “Single-family detached homes generally are
> considered good in town,” he said. “Three is
> better than four.”
"MEDWEDEFF ","DAVID "," ","049"," 309","WINDOVER ","AV","VIENNA ","VA","06/04/2009","40-44MPH/25MPH ZONE "
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> Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of
> historic district
> http://www.insidenova.com/news/fairfax/vienna-town
> -council-oks-subdivision-on-edge-of-historic-distr
> ict/article_37c1f5e0-0da1-11e4-8017-001a4bcf887a.h
> tml
>
> The Vienna Town Council voted unanimously July 7
> to allow a developer to subdivide a property in
> the town’s Windover Heights Historic District
> and add two more houses.
>
> The site now is home to a house at 130 Pleasant
> St., N.W., which was built in 1910 and will be
> retained under the subdivision agreement. Town
> officials acknowledged that nothing in the accord
> would preclude the old house from being torn down
> in the future.
>
>
>
>
>
> The existing house and two new homes will be
> accessed via a new cul-de-sac and listed under the
> addresses 301, 303 and 305 Salsbury Lane, N.W. The
> current house’s driveway and detached garage
> will be removed to make way for the new Andrew
> Minor Subdivision.
>
> Emergency vehicles will be able to access the
> cul-de-sac in case of an incident and subsequently
> back out onto Pleasant Street, said Deputy Public
> Works Director Michael Gallagher.
>
> The subdivision will feature a
> stormwater-detention facility under its yard along
> Pleasant Street, which will handle water from the
> site and the surrounding area, said Vienna
> Planning and Zoning Director Greg Hembree.
>
> The 3,500-square-foot stormwater facility will
> reduce peak runoff by 30 percent from a storm
> severe enough to occur only once per decade, said
> Anthony Venafro of SMITH Engineering, an agent for
> property owner Michael Covel.
>
> Council member Emil Attanasi inquired whether it
> would not be better to construct the stormwater
> facility out of concrete rather than corrugated
> metal, but Gallagher assured him there was little
> chance a vehicle would drive over the
> water-detention area and damage it.
>
> The Vienna Planning Commission on May 14
> unanimously recommended approval of the new
> subdivision. But Planning Commission member
> Charles Anderson, who lives across the street from
> the site, said the decision was not easy for him.
>
> The development will necessitate cutting down some
> tall trees along Pleasant Street and will increase
> the number of streetlights on that short section
> of road, Anderson said.
>
> While Vienna follows Fairfax County’s
> streetlight standards, Gallagher offered to
> inquire, as Anderson’s request, whether the
> additional lighting equipment could be the sort
> that minimizes light spillover.
>
> Council member Pasha Majdi asked Hembree how often
> town officials granted waivers to developers. The
> Planning and Zoning director replied that town
> staff members review such requests and that “95
> percent of the stuff you see has been
> ‘sanitized.’”
>
> Hembree also fielded a query from Council member
> Carey Sienicki, who inquired whether it would be
> possible to continue listing the site’s housing
> addresses under Pleasant Street, which would
> maintain congruence with notations in local
> history books.
>
> Hembree responded that the new Salsbury Lane
> addresses stemmed from zoning-code requirements
> regarding side-yard setbacks.
>
> Judi Medwedeff, who lives on nearby Windover
> Avenue, N.W., opposed the addition of sidewalks,
> curb and gutter at the site because they would not
> be in keeping with the rest of the town’s
> historic district.
>
> Mayor Laurie DiRocco said the new sidewalk would
> connect with the adjacent Maple Avenue commercial
> corridor and that not requiring such a pathway
> would necessitate a waiver.
>
> Curb and gutter were required by town code and
> will help channel stormwater properly, Venafro
> added.
>
> But Medwedeff’s husband, David, inveighed
> against the subdivision, calling it a “pipe-stem
> [site] with a glorified cul-de-sac that will
> dramatically the character of the historic
> district.”
>
> Before voting, Majdi summed up several Council
> members’ positions by saying the developer would
> end up building one less house at the site than
> otherwise would have been allowed.
>
> “Single-family detached homes generally are
> considered good in town,” he said. “Three is
> better than four.”
"MEDWEDEFF ","DAVID "," ","049"," 309","WINDOVER ","AV","VIENNA ","VA","06/04/2009","40-44MPH/25MPH ZONE "
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Free Time
()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:22AM
So...why would you go to the effort of posting a speeding ticket ...FROM FIVE YEARS AGO...of a person who spoke out against this development?
Friend of the developer?
Friend of the developer?
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Berber
()
Date: July 18, 2014 11:39AM
Vienna resident Wrote:
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> The new McMansions will be located next to the new
> Vienna streetcar entrance.
Between the mattress and carpet store.
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> The new McMansions will be located next to the new
> Vienna streetcar entrance.
Between the mattress and carpet store.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Green hornet
()
Date: July 18, 2014 12:21PM
Free Time Wrote:
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> So...why would you go to the effort of posting a
> speeding ticket ...FROM FIVE YEARS AGO...of a
> person who spoke out against this development?
>
> Friend of the developer?
Those are good questions.
http://vienna.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/madison-high-school-student-arrested-for-marijuana-poe6822e0280
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> So...why would you go to the effort of posting a
> speeding ticket ...FROM FIVE YEARS AGO...of a
> person who spoke out against this development?
>
> Friend of the developer?
Those are good questions.
http://vienna.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/madison-high-school-student-arrested-for-marijuana-poe6822e0280
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Developer
()
Date: July 18, 2014 01:09PM
Older Colored Resident Wrote:
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> News would be the Vienna Town Council denying a
> developer anything.
As any actual developer would tell you, the Town of Vienna is in fact notorious for stickler standards that it persistently keeps to, even when they have to leave money on the table to do so. But that's okay -- you all just keep being internet bozo-babblers as usual. What would the internet be without stupid people.
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> News would be the Vienna Town Council denying a
> developer anything.
As any actual developer would tell you, the Town of Vienna is in fact notorious for stickler standards that it persistently keeps to, even when they have to leave money on the table to do so. But that's okay -- you all just keep being internet bozo-babblers as usual. What would the internet be without stupid people.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
now I get it
()
Date: July 18, 2014 01:49PM
This parcel of land has an interesting history, including a major lawsuit. http://caselaw.findlaw.com/va-supreme-court/1527048.html
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Ticky Tack
()
Date: July 18, 2014 02:32PM
As any actual developer would tell you, the Town of Vienna is in fact notorious for stickler standards that it persistently keeps to, even when they have to leave money on the table to do so. But that's okay -- you all just keep being internet bozo-babblers as usual. What would the internet be without stupid people.
Says a developer....
Says a developer....
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Developer
()
Date: July 18, 2014 03:45PM
Ticky Tack Wrote:
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> Says a developer....
Says a stupid person who hasn't had 30 seconds worth of experience to speak from.
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> Says a developer....
Says a stupid person who hasn't had 30 seconds worth of experience to speak from.
always knew there was really no difference between those two anyways LoLz
Posted by:
Gordon Blvd
()
Date: July 18, 2014 04:03PM
so exactly how's this any diff than Manasshole building that strip mall right ass-up against Bull Run Battlefield?
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Face Down
()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:05PM
Ticky Tack Wrote:
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> Says a developer....
Says a stupid person who hasn't had 30 seconds worth of experience to speak from.
Says a developer...
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> Says a developer....
Says a stupid person who hasn't had 30 seconds worth of experience to speak from.
Says a developer...
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Pop Quiz
()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:13PM
What's the difference between a real estate developer and a drug dealer?
A drug dealer keeps his word.
A drug dealer keeps his word.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
pile o poo
()
Date: July 18, 2014 07:21PM
Actual Developer Wrote:
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> Ticky Tack Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Says a developer....
>
> Says a stupid person who hasn't had 30 seconds
> worth of experience to speak from.
The only thing you've ever developed is bullshit.
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> Ticky Tack Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Says a developer....
>
> Says a stupid person who hasn't had 30 seconds
> worth of experience to speak from.
The only thing you've ever developed is bullshit.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Waltz Meister
()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:13PM
Rug Doctor Wrote:
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> Don't worry, you'll still have the carpet stores.
And Wolf Trap and Meadowlark Gardens and Viva! Vienna! and the Fourth of July Festival and Oktoberfest and the Halloween Parade and all that access to all that shopping, dining, and transportation, and all those spots on all those Greatest Places to Live lists that your town never seems to get mentioned on. Well, your Census-designated place, anyway.
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> Don't worry, you'll still have the carpet stores.
And Wolf Trap and Meadowlark Gardens and Viva! Vienna! and the Fourth of July Festival and Oktoberfest and the Halloween Parade and all that access to all that shopping, dining, and transportation, and all those spots on all those Greatest Places to Live lists that your town never seems to get mentioned on. Well, your Census-designated place, anyway.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Developer
()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:27PM
pile o poo Wrote:
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> The only thing you've ever developed is bullshit.
I'm sure you'd have liked it all better had you come within even earshot of being able to afford any of it. I think maybe the indoor-plumbing thing might have put it all beyond your reach.
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> The only thing you've ever developed is bullshit.
I'm sure you'd have liked it all better had you come within even earshot of being able to afford any of it. I think maybe the indoor-plumbing thing might have put it all beyond your reach.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
We believe you!
()
Date: July 18, 2014 08:48PM
Actual Developer Wrote:
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> pile o poo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only thing you've ever developed is
> bullshit.
>
> I'm sure you'd have liked it all better had you
> come within even earshot of being able to afford
> any of it. I think maybe the indoor-plumbing
> thing might have put it all beyond your reach.
Really.
Promise.
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> pile o poo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only thing you've ever developed is
> bullshit.
>
> I'm sure you'd have liked it all better had you
> come within even earshot of being able to afford
> any of it. I think maybe the indoor-plumbing
> thing might have put it all beyond your reach.
Really.
Promise.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Developer
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:19PM
We believe you! Wrote:
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Do or don't. That's up to you. The facts are not though, as those of us who actually deal with them would know.
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Do or don't. That's up to you. The facts are not though, as those of us who actually deal with them would know.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Reader
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:26PM
Do or don't. That's up to you. The facts are not though, as those of us who actually deal with them would know.
English, please.
English, please.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
FFXU Translator
()
Date: July 18, 2014 10:51PM
Actual Developer Wrote:
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>
> I'm full of shit.
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>
> I'm full of shit.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Concerned Reader
()
Date: July 19, 2014 12:59AM
FFXU Translator Wrote:
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> Actual Developer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > I'm full of shit.
Thank you.
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> Actual Developer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > I'm full of shit.
Thank you.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
s. susanka
()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:22AM
Actual Developer Wrote:
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> pile o poo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only thing you've ever developed is
> bullshit.
>
> I'm sure you'd have liked it all better had you
> come within even earshot of being able to afford
> any of it. I think maybe the indoor-plumbing
> thing might have put it all beyond your reach.
Money and good taste don't necessarily go hand-in-hand, but some people with money do have good taste.
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> pile o poo Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The only thing you've ever developed is
> bullshit.
>
> I'm sure you'd have liked it all better had you
> come within even earshot of being able to afford
> any of it. I think maybe the indoor-plumbing
> thing might have put it all beyond your reach.
Money and good taste don't necessarily go hand-in-hand, but some people with money do have good taste.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Adult
()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:48AM
Actual Reader Wrote:
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> English, please.
That WAS English. It would seem that you are not very good at English if something at that level went over your head.
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> English, please.
That WAS English. It would seem that you are not very good at English if something at that level went over your head.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Who've
()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:59AM
Holy shit how did this kid get off with 15 ounces of weed? Even if he ratted he should have got something!
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Carrie Fisher
()
Date: July 19, 2014 10:03AM
Postcards from the edge...
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Feeder
()
Date: July 19, 2014 10:03AM
Actual Reader Wrote:
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> English, please.
That WAS English. It would seem that you are not very good at English if something at that level went over your head.
Sorry, that was not lucid English. It would seem that you are a product of the Fairfax County School System if something as simple as expressing what seems to be a "thought" went over your head...
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> English, please.
That WAS English. It would seem that you are not very good at English if something at that level went over your head.
Sorry, that was not lucid English. It would seem that you are a product of the Fairfax County School System if something as simple as expressing what seems to be a "thought" went over your head...
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Adult
()
Date: July 19, 2014 10:51AM
Actual Feeder Wrote:
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> Sorry, that was not lucid English.
Fault of the reader, not the writer. There was nothing vague, odd, or exotic in the original post.
"Do or don't. That's up to you. The facts are not though, as those of us who actually deal with them would know."
Where's all the mystery? Even at an intellectual dump such as FFXU, there is no obligation to remain at the "See Spot run!" level of the language.
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> Sorry, that was not lucid English.
Fault of the reader, not the writer. There was nothing vague, odd, or exotic in the original post.
"Do or don't. That's up to you. The facts are not though, as those of us who actually deal with them would know."
Where's all the mystery? Even at an intellectual dump such as FFXU, there is no obligation to remain at the "See Spot run!" level of the language.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
arbiter
()
Date: July 19, 2014 11:04AM
Actual Adult Wrote:
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> Actual Feeder Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sorry, that was not lucid English.
>
> Fault of the reader, not the writer. There was
> nothing vague, odd, or exotic in the original
> post.
>
> "Do or don't. That's up to you. The facts are not
> though, as those of us who actually deal with them
> would know."
>
> Where's all the mystery? Even at an intellectual
> dump such as FFXU, there is no obligation to
> remain at the "See Spot run!" level of the
> language.
A comma between "not" and "though" would have helped.
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> Actual Feeder Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sorry, that was not lucid English.
>
> Fault of the reader, not the writer. There was
> nothing vague, odd, or exotic in the original
> post.
>
> "Do or don't. That's up to you. The facts are not
> though, as those of us who actually deal with them
> would know."
>
> Where's all the mystery? Even at an intellectual
> dump such as FFXU, there is no obligation to
> remain at the "See Spot run!" level of the
> language.
A comma between "not" and "though" would have helped.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
We don't have ESP
()
Date: July 19, 2014 11:48AM
Developers don't have time for those pesky old fashioned commas
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Adult
()
Date: July 19, 2014 05:26PM
arbiter Wrote:
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> A comma between "not" and "though" would have helped.
Not as much as a sharp blow to the head, I'd imagine. If you can only comprehend English at the level of slowly displayed flash cards, you aren't much of anyone to be complaining.
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> A comma between "not" and "though" would have helped.
Not as much as a sharp blow to the head, I'd imagine. If you can only comprehend English at the level of slowly displayed flash cards, you aren't much of anyone to be complaining.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Adult
()
Date: July 19, 2014 05:32PM
We don't have ESP Wrote:
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> Developers don't have time for those pesky old fashioned commas
AMBER ALERT: Comma missing after "pesky". Hyphen missing from "old-fashioned".
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> Developers don't have time for those pesky old fashioned commas
AMBER ALERT: Comma missing after "pesky". Hyphen missing from "old-fashioned".
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Asshole
()
Date: July 19, 2014 06:05PM
We don't have ESP Wrote:
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> Developers don't have time for those pesky old fashioned commas
AMBER ALERT: Comma missing after "pesky". Hyphen missing from "old-fashioned".
You've made a very good point...you've proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're a complete douchebag.
Thank you for playing!
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> Developers don't have time for those pesky old fashioned commas
AMBER ALERT: Comma missing after "pesky". Hyphen missing from "old-fashioned".
You've made a very good point...you've proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're a complete douchebag.
Thank you for playing!
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
arbiter
()
Date: July 19, 2014 07:13PM
Actual Adult Wrote:
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> arbiter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A comma between "not" and "though" would have
> helped.
>
> Not as much as a sharp blow to the head, I'd
> imagine. If you can only comprehend English at
> the level of slowly displayed flash cards, you
> aren't much of anyone to be complaining.
Actual Reader/Adult, why are you so insecure? Missing a comma is not a big deal. Including it would have enhanced readability, but it's not as though you were caught diddling a child.
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> arbiter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A comma between "not" and "though" would have
> helped.
>
> Not as much as a sharp blow to the head, I'd
> imagine. If you can only comprehend English at
> the level of slowly displayed flash cards, you
> aren't much of anyone to be complaining.
Actual Reader/Adult, why are you so insecure? Missing a comma is not a big deal. Including it would have enhanced readability, but it's not as though you were caught diddling a child.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
NFcP7
()
Date: July 19, 2014 07:13PM
What? No mixed-use? What is the world coming too.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Asshole Reporter
()
Date: July 19, 2014 07:20PM
Actual Asshole Wrote:
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> You've made a very good point...you've proven,
> beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're a complete
> douchebag. Thank you for playing!
Too bad this is yet another game that you completely suck at. Is there no area at all in which you can hold you own? Pathetic frog-turd dumbfuck.
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> You've made a very good point...you've proven,
> beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're a complete
> douchebag. Thank you for playing!
Too bad this is yet another game that you completely suck at. Is there no area at all in which you can hold you own? Pathetic frog-turd dumbfuck.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Actual Asshole
()
Date: July 19, 2014 07:23PM
Asshole Reporter Wrote:
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> Actual Asshole Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You've made a very good point...you've proven,
> > beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're a
> complete
> > douchebag. Thank you for playing!
>
> Too bad this is yet another game that you
> completely suck at. Is there no area at all in
> which you can hold you own? Pathetic frog-turd
> dumbfuck.
I am betting that you "hold your own" frequently.
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> Actual Asshole Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You've made a very good point...you've proven,
> > beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're a
> complete
> > douchebag. Thank you for playing!
>
> Too bad this is yet another game that you
> completely suck at. Is there no area at all in
> which you can hold you own? Pathetic frog-turd
> dumbfuck.
I am betting that you "hold your own" frequently.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Emmit Till
()
Date: July 19, 2014 08:17PM
Too bad this is yet another game that you completely suck at. Is there no area at all in which you can hold you own? Pathetic frog-turd dumbfuck.
You mean a game at which I suck? "Suck at" is wrong, as you should know, as smart as you think you are.
Hmm, on the other hand, you did hyphenate "frog-turd," as in, "frog-turd dumbfuck."
A partially educated goober...not even mattress factory employee material
You mean a game at which I suck? "Suck at" is wrong, as you should know, as smart as you think you are.
Hmm, on the other hand, you did hyphenate "frog-turd," as in, "frog-turd dumbfuck."
A partially educated goober...not even mattress factory employee material
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Further Assholes Discoverees
()
Date: July 19, 2014 08:47PM
Actual Asshole Wrote:
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> I am betting that you "hold your own" frequently.
Such a fucking 8th-grade wimp-ass post. You are certainly among the most completely impotent posters on FFXU. Worthless limp-dick asshole.
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> I am betting that you "hold your own" frequently.
Such a fucking 8th-grade wimp-ass post. You are certainly among the most completely impotent posters on FFXU. Worthless limp-dick asshole.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Further Asshole Discovereys
()
Date: July 19, 2014 09:02PM
Emmit Till Wrote:
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> You mean a game at which I suck? "Suck at" is
> wrong, as you should know, as smart as you think
> you are.
This is the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put. In other words, you again prove yourself to be nothing but a useless ignorant goober fucktard lacking any sort of redeeming social value at all.
> Hmm, on the other hand, you did hyphenate
> "frog-turd," as in, "frog-turd dumbfuck."
> A partially educated goober...not even mattress
> factory employee material
LOL! So many more years of education than you, and at so much more selective and highly respected institutions. You are a talent[hyphen]free dork[hyphen]stooge, you worthless ten[hyphen]cent fucktard.
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> You mean a game at which I suck? "Suck at" is
> wrong, as you should know, as smart as you think
> you are.
This is the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put. In other words, you again prove yourself to be nothing but a useless ignorant goober fucktard lacking any sort of redeeming social value at all.
> Hmm, on the other hand, you did hyphenate
> "frog-turd," as in, "frog-turd dumbfuck."
> A partially educated goober...not even mattress
> factory employee material
LOL! So many more years of education than you, and at so much more selective and highly respected institutions. You are a talent[hyphen]free dork[hyphen]stooge, you worthless ten[hyphen]cent fucktard.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Ayrhill Homes
()
Date: July 19, 2014 11:27PM
Actual Developer Wrote:
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> As any actual developer would tell you, the Town
> of Vienna is in fact notorious for stickler
> standards that it persistently keeps to, even when
> they have to leave money on the table to do so.
> But that's okay -- you all just keep being
> internet bozo-babblers as usual. What would the
> internet be without stupid people.
You hit that nail on the head! Fairfax is positively fluid in comparison to Vienna. Some people just won't build in Vienna because of the hassles in getting approvals done.
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> As any actual developer would tell you, the Town
> of Vienna is in fact notorious for stickler
> standards that it persistently keeps to, even when
> they have to leave money on the table to do so.
> But that's okay -- you all just keep being
> internet bozo-babblers as usual. What would the
> internet be without stupid people.
You hit that nail on the head! Fairfax is positively fluid in comparison to Vienna. Some people just won't build in Vienna because of the hassles in getting approvals done.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Altoids Development
()
Date: July 19, 2014 11:41PM
That explains why half of Vienna looks like Beirut, with all the tear-downs and monster homes being crammed into small lots...yup, Vienna is really strict on development...
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Til Hazel
()
Date: July 19, 2014 11:55PM
Altoids Development Wrote:
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> That explains why half of Vienna looks like
> Beirut, with all the tear-downs and monster homes
> being crammed into small lots...yup, Vienna is
> really strict on development...
With god damn mattress stores on every corner.
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> That explains why half of Vienna looks like
> Beirut, with all the tear-downs and monster homes
> being crammed into small lots...yup, Vienna is
> really strict on development...
With god damn mattress stores on every corner.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
trend follower
()
Date: July 20, 2014 06:13AM
Til Hazel Wrote:
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> Altoids Development Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That explains why half of Vienna looks like
> > Beirut, with all the tear-downs and monster
> homes
> > being crammed into small lots...yup, Vienna is
> > really strict on development...
>
>
> With god damn mattress stores on every corner.
You may be underestimating the usefulness of mattresses. In difficult times they may be a good place under which to hide money.
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> Altoids Development Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That explains why half of Vienna looks like
> > Beirut, with all the tear-downs and monster
> homes
> > being crammed into small lots...yup, Vienna is
> > really strict on development...
>
>
> With god damn mattress stores on every corner.
You may be underestimating the usefulness of mattresses. In difficult times they may be a good place under which to hide money.
http://www.ftpress.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1721160Quote
If you are thinking that I have inserted a conspiracy theory, X-Files, or Area 51 edge to trend following, smart thinking. Trend traders are dialed in and average investors are lost? Indeed. Many investors today hide their money under mattresses. Everything that used to be safe is now risky.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Futher ASsshole Discoverees
()
Date: July 20, 2014 07:17AM
Give it up, you pathetic asshole. The idea that Vienna and Beirut are comparable is only evidence of the willingness of you worthless downscale right-wing loser fucktards to lie through what little is left of your yellowed and rotting teeth.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
D'Marcus Twain
()
Date: July 20, 2014 10:13AM
Did I say Beruit? I meant the Gaza Strip...complete with mattress stores...
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Asshole Report #14-0072
()
Date: July 20, 2014 10:26AM
Fuck you, you racist asshole goober.
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Pure Pasty
()
Date: July 20, 2014 10:39AM
Fuck you, you racist asshole goober.
There are so many racist asshole goobers here...could you be more specific?
There are so many racist asshole goobers here...could you be more specific?
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
A sad day
()
Date: July 20, 2014 12:04PM
These accusations of racism demean us all. As the Rev. Martin Luther King stated, "I do not judge a man by the color of his skin. I judge him by the quality of his mattress and box-spring set. And in Vienna, Virginia, one can easily find a quality mattress that befits his or her inner character."
Re: Vienna Town Council OKs subdivision on edge of historic district
Posted by:
Mattress Discounters!
()
Date: July 20, 2014 12:19PM
Damn. We had our sights on that lot, too. Fucking goober assholes.