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Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: GWHEM ()
Date: May 03, 2020 11:01AM

Are there any areas in VA or nearby that are similar to what Fairfax was like in the 1980s/1990s? Getting tired of this area. Winchester? Pittsburgh?

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Come on man!!! ()
Date: May 03, 2020 11:15AM

Don't going ruining it for someone who has found a great place to live. You start telling people about it and it will become overrun with immigrants (both foreign and domestic). Go out on the weekends and drive. That is how you will find the little gems nobody ever talks about.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: It doesn't exist near here ()
Date: May 03, 2020 11:46AM

There is no area anywhere in or near the DMV (hate that term) that is similar to what Fairfax was like in the 1980s/1990s. It is possible to find locations which have similar population demographics, but those areas won't have the economic and cultural opportunities that were available to Fairfax residents of the 1980s/1990s.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: I will try, probably fail ()
Date: May 03, 2020 11:49AM

What growing up in the early 90's here is probably going to be hard to replicate.

The major change I dislike is the amount of traffic on the road and the constant building. But one positive is the economic stability because of the government jobs.

Stafford County is a lot more rural than Fairfax, but being close to DC shares some similarities. Likewise with Anne Arundel County MD. Communities like Crofton are very quiet, affluent and liveable.

You might want to also consider the suburbs of Richmond or Raleigh, NC. They are not nearly as nice as the DC suburbs but at least have state capitals and universities to ensure an educated workforce and many opporunities.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Big Macs were 55¢ ()
Date: May 03, 2020 12:44PM

Back in the day, Fair Oaks Mall was a farm. Chantilly H.S. was considered waaaaaaay out there. Traffic on 95 south dropped off to almost nothing after you got past Springfield. Rt 28 and 50 intersection was a lonely traffic light that never backed up and flashed yellow/red after 9 pm. That was my youth growing up in Fairfax County. Now, even Winchester is too big for that. We lost Leesburg 10 years ago.

Head out to Culpepper or Front Royal if you want mostly white good ol' boys with a smattering of transplanted DC scum like Fairfax used to be.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: rtp ()
Date: May 03, 2020 01:49PM

I will try, probably fail Wrote:
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> You might want to also consider the suburbs of
> Richmond or Raleigh, NC.

Nowhere's going to be like Fairfax in the 80s and 90s, cuz that's all 20+ years ago and things are just different. But, I was gonna say the Raleigh suburbs/Research Triangle Park area. It's like a less-crowded Fairfax county without the influence of a major city. Real cookie-cutter development & strip mall kind of area. People seem to like it though, and the weather is better.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller1 ()
Date: May 03, 2020 02:04PM

GWHEM Wrote:
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> Are there any areas in VA or nearby that are
> similar to what Fairfax was like in the
> 1980s/1990s? Getting tired of this area.
> Winchester? Pittsburgh?

Pittsburgh? Winchester? So Fairfax used be a high-unemployment hillbilly shithole?

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: da burgh ()
Date: May 03, 2020 02:28PM

Pittsburgh isn't anything like here. It's a city. And it's suburbs are all like small towns with old housing and abandoned factory buildings, giving much of the area a real tired, decrepit rust-belt, kind of feeling. It's not anything like here.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: good old days ()
Date: May 03, 2020 02:32PM

Big Macs were 55¢ Wrote:
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> Back in the day, Fair Oaks Mall was a farm.
> Chantilly H.S. was considered waaaaaaay out there.
> Traffic on 95 south dropped off to almost nothing
> after you got past Springfield. Rt 28 and 50
> intersection was a lonely traffic light that never
> backed up and flashed yellow/red after 9 pm. That
> was my youth growing up in Fairfax County. Now,
> even Winchester is too big for that. We lost
> Leesburg 10 years ago.
>
> Head out to Culpepper or Front Royal if you want
> mostly white good ol' boys with a smattering of
> transplanted DC scum like Fairfax used to be.


this one time at hot rod camp I once made it from mannassas park to sterling park in just under 15 minutes, that was when 28 was a two lane road. And there was no way I was going to attempt it twice

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Illegals And Leeches Wanted ()
Date: May 03, 2020 02:35PM

Welcome to the two West Ends !

Suburbs of Fredericksburg new homes 400 k 5 miles out Rt 3 in Chancellorsville the famous Civil War battlefield site and many other places and in the West end of Richmond , nice Fairfax type subdivision homes 350 K all day long in Henrico County

Locust grove in orange County is about 15 miles out Rt 3 from the I95 Rt 3 west exit its a nice place secluded at Lake of the woods a gated community with a large lake with docks pontoon and party boats , Fawn lake the same but smaller all far less then anything in NOVA

Fredericksburg is getting a new Lexus lane from DC down to the burg as libs call it if you can afford it or carpool lots of carpool lots and vans plus 2 VRE stations.
People there work in DC NOVA Maryland PW Quantico and South to Richmond which is the same distance away from there as NOVA but no traffic compared to going to NOVA 35 to 45 miles to southern Maryland via the Rt 301 bridge Fairview Beach 15 to 25 miles away on Va rt 218 from Falmouth

Richmond is a large area with far les population then Fairfax Henrico wraps around it to the east west and north with about 230 k people The area is actually very nice with loads of nice shopping centers and employers and all the chain restaurants you see in NOVA same with the burg Schools in both are better then the vastly over rated FCPS with far fewer leeches and illegals present in both then NOVA so come on down and bring your apt roaches too !

Both have a feel of the 1970's NOVA far with less traffic and accessible to the Blue ridge Shenandoah (50-65 miles) to Thornton Gap Skyline Drive from the berg area) 60 to Charlottesville to UVA 45-55 to Richmond and the West End And much closer to Va Beach . Richmond is a hop skip and a jump about 110 miles down I 64 and the OBX too 90-110 miles from NOVA

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: not imprssed ()
Date: May 03, 2020 02:53PM

Illegals And Leeches Wanted Wrote:
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> Richmond is a hop skip and a
> jump about 110 miles down I 64 and the OBX too
> 90-110 miles from NOVA


aren't there alot of nutjobs like meade skeleton running around down there?

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Concentrate On The Important ()
Date: May 03, 2020 03:15PM

A trip to any Richmond area shopping center or new Wegmans revels ample quantity's of excellent Cougars Milfs and beautiful American women from 18 way up even if some may be dizzy while voting for the (D) , sorry no school names are being changed or celebrating any diversity of the world as here in NOVA to ruin the area , Democrats are working on it though

Of Course Richmond has a Trader Joes to catch Cougars at, and A Tom Leonards too, buy one nice melon take home another two free with your Cougar Catch

The Berg also has a Wegmans packed with those Cougars all wanting some fresh meat
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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller2 ()
Date: May 03, 2020 03:33PM

Illegals And Leeches Wanted Wrote:
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> Welcome to the two West Ends !
>
> Suburbs of Fredericksburg new homes 400 k 5 miles
> out Rt 3 in Chancellorsville the famous Civil War
> battlefield site and many other places and in the
> West end of Richmond , nice Fairfax type
> subdivision homes 350 K all day long in Henrico
> County
>
> Locust grove in orange County is about 15 miles
> out Rt 3 from the I95 Rt 3 west exit its a nice
> place secluded at Lake of the woods a gated
> community with a large lake with docks pontoon and
> party boats , Fawn lake the same but smaller all
> far less then anything in NOVA
>
> Fredericksburg is getting a new Lexus lane from DC
> down to the burg as libs call it if you can afford
> it or carpool lots of carpool lots and vans plus 2
> VRE stations.
> People there work in DC NOVA Maryland PW Quantico
> and South to Richmond which is the same distance
> away from there as NOVA but no traffic compared to
> going to NOVA 35 to 45 miles to southern Maryland
> via the Rt 301 bridge Fairview Beach 15 to 25
> miles away on Va rt 218 from Falmouth
>
> Richmond is a large area with far les population
> then Fairfax Henrico wraps around it to the east
> west and north with about 230 k people The area is
> actually very nice with loads of nice shopping
> centers and employers and all the chain
> restaurants you see in NOVA same with the burg
> Schools in both are better then the vastly over
> rated FCPS with far fewer leeches and illegals
> present in both then NOVA so come on down and
> bring your apt roaches too !
>
> Both have a feel of the 1970's NOVA far with less
> traffic and accessible to the Blue ridge
> Shenandoah (50-65 miles) to Thornton Gap Skyline
> Drive from the berg area) 60 to Charlottesville to
> UVA 45-55 to Richmond and the West End And much
> closer to Va Beach . Richmond is a hop skip and a
> jump about 110 miles down I 64 and the OBX too
> 90-110 miles from NOVA

Richmond are schools suck compared to FCPS. TJ, McLean, Marshall, Madison, Woodson are in another stratosphere compared to the Richmond area.

The average Richmond area school is the academic equivalent of going South Lakes or Justice.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Henricos West End ()
Date: May 03, 2020 07:27PM

Is not Richmond City

Fredericksburg's suburbs in Spotsylvania are not Richmond Nor Fredericksburg City either

The thing FCPS excels at is massive unneeded overspending because it makes overpaid liberals feel good about themselves

Those days of FCPS largess have now come to end and will be even worse if this nation does not get back to work

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Dirtbags looking for handouts ()
Date: May 04, 2020 10:17AM

Illegals And Leeches Wanted Wrote:
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> rated FCPS with far fewer leeches and illegals
> present in both then NOVA

It’s funny how dopes refer to leeches in Fairfax while most of the taxes we pay go to fund other parts of the state, places that are supposedly “so great”.

I tell ya what, start paying for all your own stuff instead of relying on handouts from up here. You’d probably be sending your kids to a dirt-floored school house if it weren’t for us ‘leeches’.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Official Peleton Page ()
Date: May 04, 2020 10:54AM

Henricos West End Wrote:
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> The thing FCPS excels at is massive unneeded
> overspending because it makes overpaid liberals
> feel good about themselves

More right wing bull shit.

The problem with FCPS is prioritizing its spending. Like many supposedly better educational systems FCPS evaluates itself based on the specialized programs it offers to address the needs of students with special needs or abilities. Yes the spending on the supposedly gifted crowd, including the TJ students, is just as extravagant as the spending on students with limited English and students with learning disabilities and also had an adverse impact on the general student population.

People also complain there is a shit load of unnecessary social spending in the school budget. There is a shit load of social spending in the school budget, but frequently the school system is just being used as the vehicle for providing those social services. In other local governments they are still spending money on those types of services, but through agencies other than the schools. So if the schools cut that spending from their budgets the county would just reallocate that spending to another agency to provide those same services.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: get with the times grandpa ()
Date: May 04, 2020 11:19AM

Truth Teller2 Wrote:
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> Richmond are schools suck compared to FCPS. TJ,
> McLean, Marshall, Madison, Woodson are in another
> stratosphere compared to the Richmond area.
>
> The average Richmond area school is the academic
> equivalent of going South Lakes or Justice.

Still living in the past. FCPS has fallen out of the top 5 ranked school districts in the state of Virginia. It has fallen out of the top 800 nationwide. It still gets high rankings for diversity, spending, AP programs and other intangibles. What kills it is the test scores. They have tanked over the past decade and dragged FCPS from top 10 school districts to the current 817. The one measurement that is hardest to bullshit is the test scores and in that, our school system is middling at best.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: MYUV3 ()
Date: May 04, 2020 11:28AM

I know some people through work who graduated from high schools in southwestern Virginia and they are very nice people who are good friends, but they are basically uneducated. I mean a FCPS fifth grade education.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: alexa ()
Date: May 04, 2020 11:40AM

Go live in Front Royal if you want to be around nothing but white people.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Hanover/Henrico ()
Date: May 04, 2020 11:50AM

get with the times grandpa Wrote:
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> Truth Teller2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Richmond are schools suck compared to FCPS. TJ,
> > McLean, Marshall, Madison, Woodson are in
> another
> > stratosphere compared to the Richmond area.
> >
> > The average Richmond area school is the
> academic
> > equivalent of going South Lakes or Justice.
>
> Still living in the past. FCPS has fallen out of
> the top 5 ranked school districts in the state of
> Virginia. It has fallen out of the top 800
> nationwide. It still gets high rankings for
> diversity, spending, AP programs and other
> intangibles. What kills it is the test scores.
> They have tanked over the past decade and dragged
> FCPS from top 10 school districts to the current
> 817. The one measurement that is hardest to
> bullshit is the test scores and in that, our
> school system is middling at best.


Henrico and Chesterfield counties have good schools. Richmond City not so much.

The best schools in Fairfax are all in affluent areas where the kids have the advantage of educated parents and a head start on life by knowing how to read before they enter grade school.

Schools with lots of immigrant students have a huge problem because of language deficiency. DC public schools spend about twice the amount per student as Fairfax, but still have terrible tests scores and a low graduation rate.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Brown plague ()
Date: May 04, 2020 12:05PM

alexa Wrote:
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> Go live in Front Royal if you want to be around
> nothing but white people.

The entire state is infested with hoolios. The brown nud people from El Salvador are all over. They are mostly harmless except when they are driving drunk and run into you and kill you or a loved one.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Nova Land Of Leeches And Libs ()
Date: May 04, 2020 12:16PM

Libs too stupid to change Fairfax's government to a city to keep all that money that flows to Richmond from being spent elsewhere Fairfax's BOS government is fit for the country in 1948 not today with 1.1 million plus people

Even Alexandria Has a mayor in charge in Fairfax County No Ones in Charge

What Difference Does it Make Said Hillary ! Fairfax would squander it all regardless on illegals in FCPS to keep those GS 15's 10 dollars off discount a week to get their grass mowed and toilet cleaned

Wise College Thanks you dopes So Does Fredrick Co Page Bath Lee and Essex

The City of Virginia Beach says we'll keep our change Fairfax can keep their liberal chumps and the 40 extra

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: drunk & disorderly ()
Date: May 04, 2020 12:18PM

alexa Wrote:
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> Go live in Front Royal if you want to be around
> nothing but white people.


our old neighbor from out there has a lifetime ban from the warren county fairgrounds for starting a fistfight at the tractor pulls a few years ago. no joke.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: green grass of home ()
Date: May 04, 2020 12:37PM

Dirtbags looking for handouts Wrote:
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> Illegals And Leeches Wanted Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > rated FCPS with far fewer leeches and illegals
> > present in both then NOVA
>
> It’s funny how dopes refer to leeches in Fairfax
> while most of the taxes we pay go to fund other
> parts of the state, places that are supposedly
> “so great”.
>
> I tell ya what, start paying for all your own
> stuff instead of relying on handouts from up here.
> You’d probably be sending your kids to a
> dirt-floored school house if it weren’t for us
> ‘leeches’.


It's funny how libtards are all for redistribution of tax dollars until they're the ones getting fucked over. Then is rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth anger. Fuck liberals, they deserve any and all the misery they get in life.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: More BS From Dems For Votes ()
Date: May 04, 2020 12:41PM

>Like many supposedly better educational systems FCPS evaluates itself based on the specialized programs it offers to address the needs of students with special needs or abilities.

Illegals Call them what they are with sub prime immigrants that have no skills to support their families or low income Americans who need the help but the money is thinned out for the first two groups to provide for equally. , as far as schools go Spotsylvania Stafford King George Caroline and a host of other schools are just as good as FCPS, the big difference is the huge amounts of money thrown at education that is wasted by the overpaid non classroom hacks

Take a look at positions in FCPS in 1975-1985 in high schools middle schools elementary schools and support admin staff and contrast that with today and see the glorification of the education profession . Teaching coaches huh specialists huh .

Hacks ! Face It ! Its the perpetuation of the educational profession that's wasting so much of FCPS money

The solution is : deport the illegals , their presence here is unconstitutional as they illegally jumped the line in front of the rest of the world who has to enter this country constitutional as US immigration law requires by entering the USA legally . Illegals are illegally presence in the USA , deport them.

Reduce legal immigration to a trickle with only those whose skills are needed who can support themself or a family without becoming a public charge

Deport all immigrant non citizen public charges

Quit trying to tear this country down liberals . We no longer can afford your liberal luxuries that illegals and public charge leeches bring

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Toothless paki’s ()
Date: May 04, 2020 08:34PM

Truth Teller1 Wrote:
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> GWHEM Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Are there any areas in VA or nearby that are
> > similar to what Fairfax was like in the
> > 1980s/1990s? Getting tired of this area.
> > Winchester? Pittsburgh?


>
> Pittsburgh? Winchester? So Fairfax used be a
> high-unemployment hillbilly shithole?




“High-unemployment hillbilly shit-hole”



You just described the entire country of Pakistan.


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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller1 ()
Date: May 04, 2020 10:04PM

get with the times grandpa Wrote:
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> Truth Teller2 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Richmond are schools suck compared to FCPS. TJ,
> > McLean, Marshall, Madison, Woodson are in
> another
> > stratosphere compared to the Richmond area.
> >
> > The average Richmond area school is the
> academic
> > equivalent of going South Lakes or Justice.
>
> Still living in the past. FCPS has fallen out of
> the top 5 ranked school districts in the state of
> Virginia. It has fallen out of the top 800
> nationwide. It still gets high rankings for
> diversity, spending, AP programs and other
> intangibles. What kills it is the test scores.
> They have tanked over the past decade and dragged
> FCPS from top 10 school districts to the current
> 817. The one measurement that is hardest to
> bullshit is the test scores and in that, our
> school system is middling at best.

US News & World Reports HS rankings published April 2020:

Virginia —

1. TJ (Number 1 in the US)
2. Langley
3. McLean
4. Marshall
5. Madison
6. Woodson
7. West Springfield
8. Chantilly
9. Broad Run
10. Open (Richmond)

What fantasy world do you live in?

A fucking Richmond Magnet school is ranked below Chantilly and West Springfield. Time for you to STFU now.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: FCPS Din Do Nuffin Here ()
Date: May 04, 2020 10:24PM

The parents in all those schools are high income feds or defense contractors lawyers or other well off people , they send their kids to summer camps, hire tutors for special lessons, don't BS you cant TJ is a one in a million school. Its the parents money not that FCPS is so great

Lie some more or STFU

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller1 ()
Date: May 04, 2020 10:30PM

FCPS Din Do Nuffin Here Wrote:
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> The parents in all those schools are high income
> feds or defense contractors lawyers or other well
> off people , they send their kids to summer
> camps, hire tutors for special lessons, don't BS
> you cant TJ is a one in a million school. Its the
> parents money not that FCPS is so great
>
> Lie some more or STFU

You can’t deal with fucking reality which is the mean reason you need to STFU. Get a clue, Richmond sucks.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Get outta of our sight, loser ()
Date: May 04, 2020 10:40PM

green grass of home Wrote:
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> It's funny how libtards are all for redistribution
> of tax dollars until they're the ones getting
> fucked over. Then is rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth
> anger. Fuck liberals, they deserve any and all
> the misery they get in life.


Tax distribution ain't the issue, guy. You're like the angry homeless guys who scream at passerby handing them coins. You're not in a position to accuse folks of anything. Take your handout and go on with it. You know you don't really deserve it, so go yell at the moon and stop biting the hands that feed you.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Many Hundreds of Schools ()
Date: May 04, 2020 10:46PM

In lower income areas then Fairfax County across the USA are higher rated then the Virginia FCPS schools on that US News site some Richmond and Henrico schools were very close to those FCPS listed as Virginias top schools

READING COMPREHENSION AND COMMON SENSE IS NOT YOUR FORTE ! ITS THE FAIRFAX COUNTY PARENTS MONEY AND THE FACT SO MANY PARENTS HERE ARE COLLEGE GRADUATES NOT FCPS GREATNESS !

> The parents in all those schools are high income
> feds or defense contractors lawyers or other well
> off people , they send their kids to summer
> camps, hire tutors for special lessons, don't BS
> you cant TJ is a one in a million school. Its the
> parents money not that FCPS is so great
>
> Lie some more or STFU

IT Matters NOT ! The Nation Is NOW Broke ! And all the FCPS students have nor will see a day in school this school year

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: The south will rise again ()
Date: May 05, 2020 09:18AM

Dirtbags looking for handouts Wrote:

> I tell ya what, start paying for all your own
> stuff instead of relying on handouts from up here.
> You’d probably be sending your kids to a
> dirt-floored school house if it weren’t for us
> ‘leeches’.


The leech off the FedGov is bitching that the rest of the state leeches off the leech.

You can't make this shit up.

Good luck finding anyplace populated with people as delusional and arrogant as the average Northern Virginian.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: defense contractors ()
Date: May 05, 2020 09:26AM

Yes because being part of the Defense Department’s supply chain when they need equipment and services is really being a leech.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: If The Kid Is Smart ()
Date: May 05, 2020 09:32AM

If the kid studies

If the kid works hard

If the kid is honest

If the kid knows right from wrong

The kid will succeed in any school in the USA and never vote for the (D) for welfare

There's multiple millions of examples in this nations history , kids who became adults and built America

One thing is for sure …

If the kids parents are pompous asshole liberal elitist's whose well off liberal elitist government leech parents spoon fed them

They will become the dregs of society too, constantly trying to tear down America into a third world nation because of their feels of pampered white guilt coupled with large amounts of leftist brainwashing

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: You Missed the Short Bus This AM ()
Date: May 05, 2020 09:35AM

>Yes because being part of the Defense Department’s supply chain when they need equipment and services is really being a leech.

Pay attention

Being a (D) liberal elitist leech , the rest work

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Drove my car ()
Date: May 05, 2020 11:58AM

The south will rise again Wrote:
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> Dirtbags looking for handouts Wrote:
>
> > I tell ya what, start paying for all your own
> > stuff instead of relying on handouts from up
> here.
> > You’d probably be sending your kids to a
> > dirt-floored school house if it weren’t for
> us
> > ‘leeches’.
>
>
> The leech off the FedGov is bitching that the rest
> of the state leeches off the leech.
>
> You can't make this shit up.
>
> Good luck finding anyplace populated with people
> as delusional and arrogant as the average Northern
> Virginian.

I moved to northern Virginia from down state. Before that I lived even farther south. The Dirtbag isn't far off.

When I was living down state the only parts of Virginia that were paying their own way were northern Virginia, the Tidewater communities of Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Hampton and Williamsburg, Richmond and Roanoke-Salem. I think you can now add Charlottesville-Albemarle and Blacksburg-Montgomery to the list with an expanded area for northern Virginia. The complaint that is made is that northern Virginia is doing it using Federal government money. Apply that same standard to the rest. Tidewater gets large amounts of Federal government money as well. Richmond gets large amounts of state government money. Tidewater also gets large amounts of tourist money which is outside money. Charlottesville-Albemarle and Blacksburg Montgomery gets state and federal government money and other outside money funneled through UVA and VT respectively.

Money isn't created and it doesn't disappear when used. It moves around. The wealth of a region in the modern economy comes from how much money moves through the region and how much it moves within that region before moving on. Farmer Jones may feel smug that he is actually producing something in return for the money he is bringing into Halifax. In terms of dollars per acre of land used he isn't bringing in that much, and most of what he brings in goes right back out again. That is why Halifax County has more land than Fairfax, but far less wealth even on a per capita basis. That is why Farmer Jones's kids are moving to northern Virginia or Richmond.

The usual rule is that people who complain that other workers are leeches are people who were not smart enough to figure out how to do it themselves. Plus many of those complainers have jobs that are just as parasitic as the people they complain about.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: 4XHTG ()
Date: May 05, 2020 12:12PM

Virginia would be as backwards as Mississippi or Lousiana if it weren't for the FedGov $$$$.

In terms of what the state contributes in taxes vs. what it takes, it's a leech.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller 0 ()
Date: May 05, 2020 12:43PM

Truth Teller1 Wrote:
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> get with the times grandpa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Truth Teller2 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > Richmond are schools suck compared to FCPS.
> TJ,
> > > McLean, Marshall, Madison, Woodson are in
> > another
> > > stratosphere compared to the Richmond area.
> > >
> > > The average Richmond area school is the
> > academic
> > > equivalent of going South Lakes or Justice.
> >
> > Still living in the past. FCPS has fallen out
> of
> > the top 5 ranked school districts in the state
> of
> > Virginia. It has fallen out of the top 800
> > nationwide. It still gets high rankings for
> > diversity, spending, AP programs and other
> > intangibles. What kills it is the test scores.
>
> > They have tanked over the past decade and
> dragged
> > FCPS from top 10 school districts to the
> current
> > 817. The one measurement that is hardest to
> > bullshit is the test scores and in that, our
> > school system is middling at best.
>
> US News & World Reports HS rankings published
> April 2020:
>
> Virginia —
>
> 1. TJ (Number 1 in the US)
> 2. Langley
> 3. McLean
> 4. Marshall
> 5. Madison
> 6. Woodson
> 7. West Springfield
> 8. Chantilly
> 9. Broad Run
> 10. Open (Richmond)
>
> What fantasy world do you live in?
>
> A fucking Richmond Magnet school is ranked below
> Chantilly and West Springfield. Time for you to
> STFU now.


Sorry about your butthurt. FCPS pretty much suck ass now.

https://www.niche.com/k12/d/fairfax-county-public-schools-va/rankings/

 
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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Nailedit ()
Date: May 05, 2020 12:45PM

Drove my car Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The usual rule is that people who complain that
> other workers are leeches are people who were not
> smart enough to figure out how to do it
> themselves.



That’s exactly what it is. I hear the same bitching from dopes I went to high school with, kids who didn’t give a shit back then, never really tried, and didn’t want to move away for better prospects. The funny part is, they still seem to know better than everybody else even though they’re constantly pissed about the short end of the stick they’ve gotten. It’s pathetic.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller1 ()
Date: May 05, 2020 01:17PM

Truth Teller 0 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Truth Teller1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > get with the times grandpa Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Truth Teller2 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > > Richmond are schools suck compared to FCPS.
> > TJ,
> > > > McLean, Marshall, Madison, Woodson are in
> > > another
> > > > stratosphere compared to the Richmond area.
> > > >
> > > > The average Richmond area school is the
> > > academic
> > > > equivalent of going South Lakes or Justice.
> > >
> > > Still living in the past. FCPS has fallen
> out
> > of
> > > the top 5 ranked school districts in the
> state
> > of
> > > Virginia. It has fallen out of the top 800
> > > nationwide. It still gets high rankings for
> > > diversity, spending, AP programs and other
> > > intangibles. What kills it is the test
> scores.
> >
> > > They have tanked over the past decade and
> > dragged
> > > FCPS from top 10 school districts to the
> > current
> > > 817. The one measurement that is hardest to
> > > bullshit is the test scores and in that, our
> > > school system is middling at best.
> >
> > US News & World Reports HS rankings published
> > April 2020:
> >
> > Virginia —
> >
> > 1. TJ (Number 1 in the US)
> > 2. Langley
> > 3. McLean
> > 4. Marshall
> > 5. Madison
> > 6. Woodson
> > 7. West Springfield
> > 8. Chantilly
> > 9. Broad Run
> > 10. Open (Richmond)
> >
> > What fantasy world do you live in?
> >
> > A fucking Richmond Magnet school is ranked
> below
> > Chantilly and West Springfield. Time for you to
> > STFU now.
>
>
> Sorry about your butthurt. FCPS pretty much suck
> ass now.
>
> https://www.niche.com/k12/d/fairfax-county-public-
> schools-va/rankings/
>
>  

Niche.com -- LMFAO! GTFOH. That's funny as shit.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller1 ()
Date: May 05, 2020 02:15PM

Nailedit Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Drove my car Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The usual rule is that people who complain that
> > other workers are leeches are people who were
> not
> > smart enough to figure out how to do it
> > themselves.
>
>
>
> That’s exactly what it is. I hear the same
> bitching from dopes I went to high school with,
> kids who didn’t give a shit back then, never
> really tried, and didn’t want to move away for
> better prospects. The funny part is, they still
> seem to know better than everybody else even
> though they’re constantly pissed about the short
> end of the stick they’ve gotten. It’s
> pathetic.

+1,000,000

But "Real America" is being the cashier at the Rural King in Front Royal.

This is FAIRFAX UNDERGROUND. If they love Richmond or Shenandoah so much, go start a new fucking site highlighting all the fun white trash has out in the hinterlands.
.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller 0 ()
Date: May 05, 2020 02:55PM

Truth Teller1 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nailedit Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Drove my car Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The usual rule is that people who complain
> that
> > > other workers are leeches are people who were
> > not
> > > smart enough to figure out how to do it
> > > themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> > That’s exactly what it is. I hear the same
> > bitching from dopes I went to high school with,
> > kids who didn’t give a shit back then, never
> > really tried, and didn’t want to move away
> for
> > better prospects. The funny part is, they
> still
> > seem to know better than everybody else even
> > though they’re constantly pissed about the
> short
> > end of the stick they’ve gotten. It’s
> > pathetic.
>
> +1,000,000
>
> But "Real America" is being the cashier at the
> Rural King in Front Royal.
>
> This is FAIRFAX UNDERGROUND. If they love Richmond
> or Shenandoah so much, go start a new fucking site
> highlighting all the fun white trash has out in
> the hinterlands.
> .


Sure snowflake. Almost everyone posting how shitty Fairfax is lives here. We know how shitty it is. And some of us have been here decades and witnesses the decline into shittiness. Fairfax schools now suck. Those of us with kids in the school system know it because we see it. Fuck, we couldn't even get distance learning up and running - even PG County got that going.

So eat a bag of dicks faggot and STFU. We know the deal and your irrational anger because people point out what a shithole this place has become only proves what a pussy you are. Don't read the threads if the truth upsets you so much.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Blind And Stupid ()
Date: May 05, 2020 02:57PM

Is no way to go through life .

The facts are

Posted by: If The Kid Is Smart ()
Date: May 05, 2020 09:32AM

If the kid studies

If the kid works hard

If the kid is honest

If the kid knows right from wrong

The kid will succeed in any school in the USA and never vote for the (D) for welfare

So much for Fairfax County Schools Greatness. There are hundreds of places in Virginia that offer a far better quality of life then Fairfax Country or NOVA with better homes at more reasonable prices , less dense traffic and a better life with out the pressure high density places bring

Now cite the expanded number of divorce statistics in Fairfax County vs other better areas in Virginia with a higher quality of life then Fairfax

Of course its much more difficult to live and get along with liberal pompous asses

Since you are a liberal elitist ass and joke about cashiers and low income people lets hear you talk about the stats and test scores of low income low information people of Fairfax no matter what FCPS school they went to . Then lets hear you talk about the millions of successful people in Virginia of every income level who are not in NOVA and how they feel their area is vastly superior to the glorified NOVA dump

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Dunn Loring pussies are sad ()
Date: May 05, 2020 02:58PM

Truth Teller1 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Truth Teller 0 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Truth Teller1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > get with the times grandpa Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Truth Teller2 Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > >
> > > > > Richmond are schools suck compared to
> FCPS.
> > > TJ,
> > > > > McLean, Marshall, Madison, Woodson are in
> > > > another
> > > > > stratosphere compared to the Richmond
> area.
> > > > >
> > > > > The average Richmond area school is the
> > > > academic
> > > > > equivalent of going South Lakes or
> Justice.
> > > >
> > > > Still living in the past. FCPS has fallen
> > out
> > > of
> > > > the top 5 ranked school districts in the
> > state
> > > of
> > > > Virginia. It has fallen out of the top 800
> > > > nationwide. It still gets high rankings
> for
> > > > diversity, spending, AP programs and other
> > > > intangibles. What kills it is the test
> > scores.
> > >
> > > > They have tanked over the past decade and
> > > dragged
> > > > FCPS from top 10 school districts to the
> > > current
> > > > 817. The one measurement that is hardest
> to
> > > > bullshit is the test scores and in that,
> our
> > > > school system is middling at best.
> > >
> > > US News & World Reports HS rankings published
> > > April 2020:
> > >
> > > Virginia —
> > >
> > > 1. TJ (Number 1 in the US)
> > > 2. Langley
> > > 3. McLean
> > > 4. Marshall
> > > 5. Madison
> > > 6. Woodson
> > > 7. West Springfield
> > > 8. Chantilly
> > > 9. Broad Run
> > > 10. Open (Richmond)
> > >
> > > What fantasy world do you live in?
> > >
> > > A fucking Richmond Magnet school is ranked
> > below
> > > Chantilly and West Springfield. Time for you
> to
> > > STFU now.
> >
> >
> > Sorry about your butthurt. FCPS pretty much
> suck
> > ass now.
> >
> >
> https://www.niche.com/k12/d/fairfax-county-public-
>
> > schools-va/rankings/
> >
> >  
>
> Niche.com -- LMFAO! GTFOH. That's funny as shit.


8 years ago, they had FCPS #1 in Virginia and #28 in the country. Bet you thought they were the bees knees then. Now, the truth sends you into a frenzy of denial and old-man ranting. Truth hurts gramps. Deal with it.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Plus One Other Big One #2 ()
Date: May 05, 2020 03:03PM

>We know the deal and your irrational anger because people point out what a shithole this place has become

#2 . The FCPS non teaching hacks and government paperwork slow walkers don't want to lose their gravy train non essential overpaid jobs when the money runs out soon

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: elitist libs ()
Date: May 05, 2020 03:08PM

Dunn Loring pussies are sad Wrote:
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> 8 years ago, they had FCPS #1 in Virginia and #28
> in the country. Bet you thought they were the
> bees knees then. Now, the truth sends you into a
> frenzy of denial and old-man ranting. Truth hurts
> gramps. Deal with it.


He’s probably one of those libtard bootlickers who thinks if you didn’t go to a FCPS school, then you’re a loser, basically.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: what hath the libtard wrought? ()
Date: May 05, 2020 04:25PM

elitist libs Wrote:
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> Dunn Loring pussies are sad Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 8 years ago, they had FCPS #1 in Virginia and
> #28
> > in the country. Bet you thought they were the
> > bees knees then. Now, the truth sends you into
> a
> > frenzy of denial and old-man ranting. Truth
> hurts
> > gramps. Deal with it.
>
>
> He’s probably one of those libtard bootlickers
> who thinks if you didn’t go to a FCPS school,
> then you’re a loser, basically.


25 years ago, that was true, at least in the state of Virginia. FCPS were head and shoulders above all the other school districts in the state and it was fighting with Montgomery County, MD for the best school system in the country. Now, FCPS has dropped to 817th. Too many ESL students are dragging down the rest of the students.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: The 10 Dollars A Week ()
Date: May 05, 2020 05:50PM

The libtards save by using illegals to whack their weeds makes them feel smugly good about themselves

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller1 ()
Date: May 05, 2020 11:12PM

what hath the libtard wrought? Wrote:
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> elitist libs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dunn Loring pussies are sad Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > 8 years ago, they had FCPS #1 in Virginia and
> > #28
> > > in the country. Bet you thought they were
> the
> > > bees knees then. Now, the truth sends you
> into
> > a
> > > frenzy of denial and old-man ranting. Truth
> > hurts
> > > gramps. Deal with it.
> >
> >
> > He’s probably one of those libtard
> bootlickers
> > who thinks if you didn’t go to a FCPS school,
> > then you’re a loser, basically.
>
>
> 25 years ago, that was true, at least in the state
> of Virginia. FCPS were head and shoulders above
> all the other school districts in the state and it
> was fighting with Montgomery County, MD for the
> best school system in the country. Now, FCPS has
> dropped to 817th. Too many ESL students are
> dragging down the rest of the students.

Blah, Bitch, Whine. Another Conservative crybaby. I’m sorry you miss the era when FFX Co. had Colored bathrooms. Never coming back, bro. Gotta deal with it!

Meanwhile...

11. Oakton (FCPS 9)
12. Deep Run (Finally a non-magnet Richmond area school shows up)
13. Cosby (Richmond area non-magnet at 2 so far)
14. Yorktown (ACPS 1)
15. Centreville (FCPS 10)
16. George Mason (FCCPS 1)
17. Briar Woods (LCPS 2)
18. Robinson (FCPS 11)
19. Richmond Community (A magnet school behind 11 regular FCPS schools)
20. Grassfield (Chesapeake)

Now say libtard a million times to hide those tears.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Home Is Where You Make It ()
Date: May 05, 2020 11:25PM

It doesn’t matter where you live but where you die. Most of you are fucked.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: NOVA Was Once A Decent Place ()
Date: May 06, 2020 12:27PM

Low income riff raff has ruined it, mostly illegals and public charge immigrants
to Democrats pure enjoyment as long as they don't live near them

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Yes it was before ()
Date: May 06, 2020 01:24PM

What stomped Fairfax County was the decision by the Federal government under Ronald Reagan to outsource most blue collar Federal jobs coupled with the decision by Fairfax County officials to transform the county from a bedroom community for Federal employees into a business center. The latter guaranteed there would be a large demand for low paid unskilled workers, while the former meant there would no longer be a better paying alternative for those blue collar workers that would allow them to make a living wage. Add to this that at the same time rising property values in Arlington and Prince William were closing the doors to low paid workers living in those jurisdictions and commuting to Fairfax and you've suddenly got a rapidly rising demand on County resources to provide for the needs of low paid workers that Fairfax County businesses need, but whose pay won't allow them to live here. It did not help that County officials failed to require those who were developing the infrastructure for those business centers to require adequate close by affordable housing for low cost workers that those businesses would need. So instead those low cost workers spread out into every more moderately priced neighborhood and apartment they could find.

It is easy to blame illegals and other immigrants because they are currently the ones filling those low paid jobs. If they weren't here then others would be.

Driving along the Orange and Silver Line corridors you can see the physical manifestations of Fairfax County officials decisions to sell the County's soul. Most of the mistakes made by the county since have simply been because they were unwilling to revisit that initial mistake.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: you appear to be stupid ()
Date: May 06, 2020 02:00PM

Truth Teller1 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> what hath the libtard wrought? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > elitist libs Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dunn Loring pussies are sad Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > 8 years ago, they had FCPS #1 in Virginia
> and
> > > #28
> > > > in the country. Bet you thought they were
> > the
> > > > bees knees then. Now, the truth sends you
> > into
> > > a
> > > > frenzy of denial and old-man ranting.
> Truth
> > > hurts
> > > > gramps. Deal with it.
> > >
> > >
> > > He’s probably one of those libtard
> > bootlickers
> > > who thinks if you didn’t go to a FCPS
> school,
> > > then you’re a loser, basically.
> >
> >
> > 25 years ago, that was true, at least in the
> state
> > of Virginia. FCPS were head and shoulders
> above
> > all the other school districts in the state and
> it
> > was fighting with Montgomery County, MD for the
> > best school system in the country. Now, FCPS
> has
> > dropped to 817th. Too many ESL students are
> > dragging down the rest of the students.
>
> Blah, Bitch, Whine. Another Conservative crybaby.
> I’m sorry you miss the era when FFX Co. had
> Colored bathrooms. Never coming back, bro. Gotta
> deal with it!
>
> Meanwhile...
>
> 11. Oakton (FCPS 9)
> 12. Deep Run (Finally a non-magnet Richmond area
> school shows up)
> 13. Cosby (Richmond area non-magnet at 2 so far)
> 14. Yorktown (ACPS 1)
> 15. Centreville (FCPS 10)
> 16. George Mason (FCCPS 1)
> 17. Briar Woods (LCPS 2)
> 18. Robinson (FCPS 11)
> 19. Richmond Community (A magnet school behind 11
> regular FCPS schools)
> 20. Grassfield (Chesapeake)
>
> Now say libtard a million times to hide those
> tears.


lol. I don't live in Richmond. I live in Fairfax. I have kids in this shitty school system. I graduated from FCPS. I know how shitty it has become. I can face reality. Why can't you?

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Truth Teller1 ()
Date: May 06, 2020 02:14PM

you appear to be stupid Wrote:
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> Truth Teller1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > what hath the libtard wrought? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > elitist libs Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Dunn Loring pussies are sad Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > 8 years ago, they had FCPS #1 in Virginia
> > and
> > > > #28
> > > > > in the country. Bet you thought they
> were
> > > the
> > > > > bees knees then. Now, the truth sends
> you
> > > into
> > > > a
> > > > > frenzy of denial and old-man ranting.
> > Truth
> > > > hurts
> > > > > gramps. Deal with it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > He’s probably one of those libtard
> > > bootlickers
> > > > who thinks if you didn’t go to a FCPS
> > school,
> > > > then you’re a loser, basically.
> > >
> > >
> > > 25 years ago, that was true, at least in the
> > state
> > > of Virginia. FCPS were head and shoulders
> > above
> > > all the other school districts in the state
> and
> > it
> > > was fighting with Montgomery County, MD for
> the
> > > best school system in the country. Now, FCPS
> > has
> > > dropped to 817th. Too many ESL students are
> > > dragging down the rest of the students.
> >
> > Blah, Bitch, Whine. Another Conservative
> crybaby.
> > I’m sorry you miss the era when FFX Co. had
> > Colored bathrooms. Never coming back, bro.
> Gotta
> > deal with it!
> >
> > Meanwhile...
> >
> > 11. Oakton (FCPS 9)
> > 12. Deep Run (Finally a non-magnet Richmond
> area
> > school shows up)
> > 13. Cosby (Richmond area non-magnet at 2 so
> far)
> > 14. Yorktown (ACPS 1)
> > 15. Centreville (FCPS 10)
> > 16. George Mason (FCCPS 1)
> > 17. Briar Woods (LCPS 2)
> > 18. Robinson (FCPS 11)
> > 19. Richmond Community (A magnet school behind
> 11
> > regular FCPS schools)
> > 20. Grassfield (Chesapeake)
> >
> > Now say libtard a million times to hide those
> > tears.
>
>
> lol. I don't live in Richmond. I live in
> Fairfax. I have kids in this shitty school
> system. I graduated from FCPS. I know how shitty
> it has become. I can face reality. Why can't
> you?

No way you have kids in the system. Like all Conservatives on here you bitch like a cranky "get out of my yard" 75 year old white man and likely are one.

Meanwhile, I'll stick to real facts and data when judging FCPS. Thanks for playing!

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: private schools ()
Date: May 06, 2020 02:24PM

Most people in Richmond send their kids to private schools such as St. Christophers, Collegiate, etc. It's been that way since the early 1970's when they started forced busing.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 06, 2020 02:31PM

I am having a hard time accepting that George Mason comes in below places like West Springfield, Chantilly, or Centreville. Or that Yorktown would come in behind West Springfield or Chantilly. I guess it is the criteria that is used, which shows the weakness of ranking schools.

As for UATBS's comments, complaining about "how shitty (FCPS) has become" based on your previous FCPS experience is meaningless. I know a large number of people who graduated from FCPS schools over thirty years ago. Then like today the view on the quality of the schools would depend in part on the demographics of the student population of those schools. Same as today.

One thing that has adversely affected many schools UATBS has been the declining level of support the schools receive from the parents. Used to be every babysitter in the neighborhood would have her phone ringing off the hook for PTA night. There was lots of involvement for school fundraisers. Requests for chaperones were always filled. And when it came to discipline Little Johnny was far more worried about what his parent did if he misbehaved than about any punishment the school would meet out. When my kid graduated from high school I volunteered to work the post graduation party. For the next three years I got calls from the school asking me to volunteer even though I didn't have kids in the class. That never would have happened back in the day. You cannot lay this one on the schools or the county.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Not similar ()
Date: May 06, 2020 03:53PM

da burgh Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pittsburgh isn't anything like here. It's a city.
> And it's suburbs are all like small towns with
> old housing and abandoned factory buildings,
> giving much of the area a real tired, decrepit
> rust-belt, kind of feeling. It's not anything
> like here.

Pittsburgh is like a big version of Petersburg, VA.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: I 'll Take The Others ()
Date: May 06, 2020 05:18PM

>If they weren't here then others would be.

Who are AMERICANS over the public charge immigrants and illegals, the immigration dept. should deport them all

That's the way it was once in Fairfax before Democrats schemed of the (D) welfare vote potential of them packing into here

>Pittsburgh is like a big version of Petersburg, VA.

Where Democrats rule there's crime poverty illegals and cig butts all over the street plus trash and graffiti ,look at your feet out in NOVA see the same just like home to the illegals and public charges

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: chicken or the egg ()
Date: May 06, 2020 06:47PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
You
> cannot lay this one on the schools or the county.


Which came first, shitty county, shitty schools, or shitty parents?

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Answer Man To The Stars ()
Date: May 06, 2020 07:36PM

Mass immigration and illegals came to NOVA shitty schools followed , one poster above did have a point

>What stomped Fairfax County was the decision by the Federal government under Ronald Reagan to outsource most blue collar Federal jobs

The feds who did the maintenance type work were entrenched in the NOVA area and could support themselves Pimmit Hills Groveton Burgundy Village Falls Church Bailys Rt 50 Fairfax City others were all blue collar places that were still nice compared to some of those areas today Manassas Yorkshire PW and out were places lower paid blue collar workers lived , lots of those people were hard working people from South West Virginia and West Virginia who worked mines and got black lung then came up here and did well without public support . Now you don't see people coming to NOVA for those jobs as they don't pay enough and the cost of housing is so high hence loads of immigrants and illegal swarms

So The Kennedys The Obamas Clintons and other elite liberal Democrats sent their children to public schools LMAO

Plenty of places have better lifestyles at far lower cost and good schools then NOVA the burgeoning new armpit of Virginia

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Relativity ()
Date: May 06, 2020 09:36PM

Answer Man To The Stars Wrote:
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> Plenty of places have better lifestyles at far
> lower cost and good schools then NOVA the
> burgeoning new armpit of Virginia
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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Uncle Ralph ()
Date: May 06, 2020 09:57PM

Answer Man To The Stars gets it right. Up until the mid 80s, blue collar, construction, public utilities and retail were staffed by Appalachian 'refugees' down here to work. The vast majority stayed, built lives and raised their families. They elected competent public servants who provided exceptional service to their constituents in return for fair taxes.

All good things must end as developers and businesses discovered the increased profit potential of immigrants both legal and illegal. Money talks and competent politicians were silently replaced with more accommodating types who could be counted on to cater to developers rather than those who elected them.

The former Appalachian generations(white)are now dying off, trapped in place or headed for the Carolinas or Florida in retirement to be replaced by third world peoples reliably more likely to vote Democrat than those they replaced.

FFC as you once knew it is gone never to return.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 07, 2020 07:40PM

chicken or the egg Wrote:
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> Bill.N. Wrote:
> You
> > cannot lay this one on the schools or the
> county.
>
>
> Which came first, shitty county, shitty schools,
> or shitty parents?


Do you need to ask? Shitty parents aren't limited to parents indifferent to their children's education. Equally damaging to the system are parents who think the school system should devote its entire resources solely to meeting their child's individual needs. If little Johnny or Maria is that smart or that needy then they should be put into a private school or move to Falls Church. Public school systems the size of Fairfax are institutions of mass instruction.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 07, 2020 08:00PM

Answer Man To The Stars Wrote:
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> Mass immigration and illegals came to NOVA shitty
> schools followed , one poster above did have a
> point

I'm curious when you think that started. In the mid 1990s we had a number of schools that had kids in them born in over 20 countries. In the early 1990s I remember talking to contractors who were trying to figure out how they could tap into the pool of immigrant laborers. In the mid 1980s I remember going to a McDonalds and realizing that none of the staff spoke English as their first language, including the manager. Then there was the late 1970s/early 1980s when friends of mine living in neighborhoods of smaller homes in eastern Fairfax, Arlington and even parts of Vienna that were complaining about how their neighborhoods were being overrun by Asians.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: The Point Bill N Was ()
Date: May 07, 2020 08:25PM

This, American workers were replaced by illegals and mass immigration with too many public charges in the legal mix The influx of Asians came during the end of the Vietnam War with Vietnamese refugees then Koreans , these people worked hard and moved out of the older cheap apts. to buy homes and start businesses and became productive members of American society , then the immigrant public charge leeches began to arrive with the illegals all welcomed by the Democrats to sell their souls and this nation away for votes with the rise of the left

<Answer Man To The Stars gets it right. Up until the mid 80s, blue collar, construction, public utilities and retail were staffed by Appalachian 'refugees' down here to work. The vast majority stayed, built lives and raised their families. They elected competent public servants who provided exceptional service to their constituents in return for fair taxes.

All good things must end as developers and businesses discovered the increased profit potential of immigrants both legal and illegal. Money talks and competent politicians were silently replaced with more accommodating types who could be counted on to cater to developers rather than those who elected them.

The former Appalachian generations(white)are now dying off, trapped in place or headed for the Carolinas or Florida in retirement to be replaced by third world peoples reliably more likely to vote Democrat than those they replaced.

FFC as you once knew it is gone never to return.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Yes There Were Hard Feelings ()
Date: May 07, 2020 08:39PM

>Arlington and even parts of Vienna that were complaining about how their neighborhoods were being overrun by Asians.

Your talking about 45 years ago when many US vets of WW2 and Korea were still in middle age , yes many did not want to see Asians seem to "Take Over" after their war experiences but in time the Asians proved themselves to be good American citizens

The big difference when areas become Spanish from former Asian that it they stay slums from then on without much upward movement Bill N take one look at LA and many other places in the USA plus here , yes there are educational and cultural differences but its what it is . How will the USA ever win the 1960's " War on Poverty" to help American blacks and poor whites when Democrats keep supporting bringing in more immigrant public charges and coddling illegals to encourage them to stay here taking more and more welfare dollars and resources that should be going to cure impoverished Americans instead of making things far worse for a stinking vote to keep them in office to further the leftist movement they call "progressive" and provide them a power structure

This country is and has been built we don't need any more immigrants

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 08, 2020 11:14AM

My point was that we look at this area's past through rose colored glasses. The Asians were different? In some ways yes, but in other negative ways no. Just look through the postings on this website from five or ten years ago and you'll see plenty of bitching about how Asians were cheating the system and how they weren't contributing to the greater community.

And the idea that it is Democrats who are bringing people in is now and has always been a joke. Ninety percent plus of people coming here from Central and South America are coming here for one reason and one alone-JOBS! So long as businesses in America are demanding employees willing to work long hours at menial tasks for little pay (and that includes the current occupant of the White House), and so long as those same businesses are going to look down on those same employees when it comes to hiring or promotions to higher level jobs, and so long as those businesses can continue to buy politicians of BOTH PARTIES to implement policies that will allow those businesses to operate in this manner, then we are going to continue to have those people coming here. If you want to shut down the flow of immigrants then change the economic rules that make it profitable for them to come here and employers to hire them. The difference between the policies of Democrats and the Republican elites is that Democrats recognize they are human beings while the Republican elites choose to look upon them solely as economic drones that can otherwise be ignored.

I don't agree with many of the policies of those on the left. I find many of them to be too expensive for the benefits obtained and too focused on the needs of one group to the detriment of others. That is the area where I think the left and right have the potential to work together.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Will N. ()
Date: May 08, 2020 11:27AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Answer Man To The Stars Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mass immigration and illegals came to NOVA
> shitty
> > schools followed , one poster above did have a
> > point
>
> I'm curious when you think that started. In the
> mid 1990s we had a number of schools that had kids
> in them born in over 20 countries. In the early
> 1990s I remember talking to contractors who were
> trying to figure out how they could tap into the
> pool of immigrant laborers. In the mid 1980s I
> remember going to a McDonalds and realizing that
> none of the staff spoke English as their first
> language, including the manager. Then there was
> the late 1970s/early 1980s when friends of mine
> living in neighborhoods of smaller homes in
> eastern Fairfax, Arlington and even parts of
> Vienna that were complaining about how their
> neighborhoods were being overrun by Asians.


Having experienced that first hand, back in the 70's - mid-90's the fuzzies would try and assimilate. If they didn't, they would fail and be kept back until they did. For those who were too stupid to learn basic English and US History, there were a couple of schools that they were sent to for vocational learning until they aged out of the system or dropped out. Totally different environment nowdays.

Since you're married to a teacher and old as fucking Moses, you should already know all this.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: To my nephew Willie ()
Date: May 08, 2020 11:46AM

Fuzzies. Not sure which group that refers to. Back when I was banging out my homework assignments on stone tablets they did follow a perform or be held until you did philosophy. I still think that philosophy has merits. However the children of "nappie headed hos" performed as well under that system as the children of toothless rednecks.

Bill.N.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Raleigh early Wachovia days ()
Date: May 08, 2020 01:42PM

Raleigh in the 90’s....was amazing.

Now, it looks like Langley Park.

Same exact shit happened there that happened here.

Good schools-flocked over here-brought their liberal dog shot politics with them.....
Not realizing that was what they left

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: only stupid people are breeding ()
Date: May 10, 2020 12:04PM

> the children of "nappie headed hos" performed as
> well under that system as the children of
> toothless rednecks.
>
> Bill.N.


The difference being that the children of "nappie headed hos" all got jobs with WMATA (Metro), while the children of toothless rednecks all got jobs with VDOT.

And both are shining examples of jobs programs for people who should have been subject to a eugenics program.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Langley High School Top 25 ()
Date: May 26, 2020 03:52AM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> I am having a hard time accepting that George
> Mason comes in below places like West Springfield,
> Chantilly, or Centreville. Or that Yorktown would
> come in behind West Springfield or Chantilly. I
> guess it is the criteria that is used, which shows
> the weakness of ranking schools.
>
> As for UATBS's comments, complaining about "how
> shitty (FCPS) has become" based on your previous
> FCPS experience is meaningless. I know a large
> number of people who graduated from FCPS schools
> over thirty years ago. Then like today the view
> on the quality of the schools would depend in part
> on the demographics of the student population of
> those schools. Same as today.
>
> One thing that has adversely affected many schools
> UATBS has been the declining level of support the
> schools receive from the parents. Used to be
> every babysitter in the neighborhood would have
> her phone ringing off the hook for PTA night.
> There was lots of involvement for school
> fundraisers. Requests for chaperones were always
> filled. And when it came to discipline Little
> Johnny was far more worried about what his parent
> did if he misbehaved than about any punishment the
> school would meet out. When my kid graduated from
> high school I volunteered to work the post
> graduation party. For the next three years I got
> calls from the school asking me to volunteer even
> though I didn't have kids in the class. That
> never would have happened back in the day. You
> cannot lay this one on the schools or the county.


Maybe you're out of the loop, but Chantilly has had a stellar past 5ish years, in terms of student college placement and event competitions –– unlike Mason or Yorktown. Not that those are factors used in the rankings, but the upper echelon of Chantilly students certainly beats out that of Mason and Yorktown. However, they do suffer from an absurdly high illegal immigrant population.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: parent of 5 in FCPS ()
Date: May 26, 2020 08:15AM

Beaners are killing western Fairfax schools. Luckily, a lot of dinks also live around there to boost up test scores. Without them, all western county schools would be in the shitter.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 26, 2020 10:33AM

Langley High School Top 25 Wrote:
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> Maybe you're out of the loop, but Chantilly has
> had a stellar past 5ish years, in terms of student
> college placement and event competitions ––
> unlike Mason or Yorktown. Not that those are
> factors used in the rankings, but the upper
> echelon of Chantilly students certainly beats out
> that of Mason and Yorktown. However, they do
> suffer from an absurdly high illegal immigrant
> population.

I am less in the loop than I used to be, but the rankings don't match up with what I am hearing. If Chantilly has truly broken into the top ranks, then yay them.

The overall school ranking should not be determined by the achievements of a small portion of the student body. A friend of mine used to say the top students at Lee were as good as the top students at Langley. He may have been correct. In any given year it is in theory possible that Lee's top students might do better at getting into a top Ivy League school. That wouldn't mean that Lee was on par with Langley.

Schools with large populations of top students and above average students are likely to have greater interaction between those top and above average students and the general student population. Schools with large populations to top and above average students are likely to have more classes and programs for advanced students. This in turn means more opportunities for even those non-top, non-above average students. In schools with smaller populations of top students and above average students those students tend to get segregated from the general population except for classes like gym. If an average or sub-average student wanted to take advanced classes he might have trouble fitting the class offered once or twice a "day" into his schedule, assuming the class hadn't reached capacity.

There is also the importance of sustained performance. If you have elementary age kids you want to make certain the schools for your area will be acceptable through high school. Langley, McLean, Madison, Yorktown, Woodson. These are schools that perform near the top, year after year.

Mason has always been a special case. Falls Church schools haven't built their reputation on top students. Rather it has traditionally been solid performance across the board.

@parent. If you don't like the demographics in western Fairfax you will hate them in eastern Fairfax. Plus while it doesn't fit the stereotype there are many stupid Asians and a ton of ignorant white students. Unless we are content to set up maybe five TJ type high schools and let the rest of the county go to pot we need to figure out a cost effective way of providing a good quality education to a broad range of students.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: blank spaces ()
Date: May 26, 2020 11:47AM

We're already throwing more money at our schools than all but a dozen school systems in the country. And FCPS continues to fall further in the rankings every year. The disease of liberalism has taken root and our schools are more babysitters and social engineering than readin',writtin' and 'rithmetic. That's the bottom line. No amount of money is going to fix them now. Go private if you can. If you can't, move to Fauquier. Still got it going on out there according to folks I talk to.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: PayyAttention ()
Date: May 26, 2020 02:34PM

Big Macs were 55¢ Wrote:
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> Head out to Culpepper or Front Royal if you want
> mostly white good ol' boys with a smattering of
> transplanted DC scum like Fairfax used to be.

Have you even been to Culpeper within the last 5 years? Because white people are the minority there now. It’s mostly non-whites. Only the town of Culpeper though. The rest of Culpeper County is of course white rednecks.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Strasburg=all white ()
Date: May 26, 2020 05:34PM

Strasburg is 99% white.
They still hang niggers out there too.
The other 1% is illegals working at the white owned businesses.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Including surrounding county ()
Date: May 26, 2020 07:00PM

Percent of population with a college degree or higher, 20%. Median household income under $55,000.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: JOBS Sure ()
Date: May 26, 2020 10:00PM

>Ninety percent plus of people coming here from Central and South America are coming here for one reason and one alone-JOBS!

To send billions in cash back to El Salvador to be spent there , not doing one dammed thing for the USA

>The difference between the policies of Democrats and the Republican elites is that Democrats recognize they are human beings

I see them as human beings also, now get them the hell out by deportation as they came in illegally and cut the line the world waits in to enter the USA legally. Its unconstitutional to favor illegals at the expense of all the other human beings in the world and violates US immigration law

The only reason Democrats support illegals is for votes for Democrats from their sympathetic countrymen. That's a horrible thing to do to this country as illegals are nothing but trouble and they take up housing education medical and other resources when they are not supposed to be here !

If a American went to some great place outside the USA if one still exists , who would they want to swamp the place as immigrants ..fellow English speaking Americans , That statement must be tempered "as long as their not Democrats who will screw everything up " That's how the people of the US are seeing Democrats more clearly every day. Not On OUR US Side !

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: You broke it, you're stuck ()
Date: May 26, 2020 10:53PM

Democrats may be cynical when it comes to immigration but Republicans are downright Machiavellian.

This country has an illegal immigration problem because Republican businessmen wanted to have large numbers of low cost employees. They didn't give a crap that by letting them in and giving them jobs here it was screwing over economically marginal American citizens. It was only when Republican leaders started hearing their rank and file scream that illegal immigrants were taking over low cost neighborhoods and going on welfare (how else were they going to support themselves on the paltry wages they were paid) and that they were altering the American culture that Republican leadership pretended to give a crap about the issue. They still don't really care. The legal-illegal divide is simply a way to justify keeping as many low cost workers as possible. While Republican lawmakers now make noise about getting rid of low income illegals they want to allow in more skilled immigrants to steal jobs from Americans who are doing slightly better.

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Pure Democrat Propaganda ()
Date: May 26, 2020 11:21PM

>This country has an illegal immigration problem because Republican businessmen wanted to have large numbers of low cost employees.

General Motors Ford Caterpillar Exxon Mobile General Electric Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Company Honeywell and thousands of businesses in the USA DO NOT use low cost illegal employees or public charge immigrants . They are already paying more then the 15 dollar an hour min wage . Even the minimum wage fast foods don't hire illegals unless they have fake ID or use someone else's Social Security number

Democrats support illegal's for votes . That's all there is to it. The only way Democrats can get a vote is either supporting illegals for the Spanish vote or supporting welfare for low income US votes which is tantamount to bribing people for a vote with the exception of pompous liberal elitists who think they are scholars and freaky left wing conspiracy idiots who saw one Republican do something bad years ago

Republicans have wanted to limit legal immigration for some time and stop all illegal immigration as president Trump does. Democrats want more illegal's and immigrant public charges and now want to give them more welfare and health care

Illegal's cost the USA far more then they are worth, the only solution is deportation to get that done

Never Vote for The Democrat Ever Again

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Re: Areas similar to what Fairfax used to be like?
Posted by: Pure GOP Propaganda ()
Date: May 29, 2020 08:36PM

Pure Democrat Propaganda Wrote:
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> General Motors Ford Caterpillar Exxon Mobile
> General Electric Newport News Shipbuilding and
> Drydock Company Honeywell and thousands of
> businesses in the USA DO NOT use low cost illegal
> employees or public charge immigrants . They are
> already paying more then the 15 dollar an hour min
> wage . Even the minimum wage fast foods don't hire
> illegals unless they have fake ID or use someone
> else's Social Security number

They may not directly employ illegals or low cost immigrants. Instead they subcontract out to companies that do. This makes them complicit.

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