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Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: Expetitus ()
Date: February 01, 2020 07:24PM

No violence or arrests were reported at the rally. The police, generally sympathetic to the demonstrators, gave them free rein to parade around with their assault rifles and other gear. The fact, however, that the event went off peacefully does not diminish the threat to the working class and to democratic rights represented by the mobilization of far-right and politically confused elements on the basis of militarism, extreme individualism and national chauvinism.

Over the weekend, the Democratic House managers, who will serve as prosecutors during the proceedings, released their brief against Trump. It reiterates the charge that Trump betrayed the country and undermined US “national security” by temporarily withholding $391 million in military aid to Ukraine. He then allegedly used the withheld arms package as leverage to pressure the Ukrainian government to announce a corruption investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

The Democrats are not seeking to remove Trump from office, or at least rein him in, over his very real attacks on democratic rights, his promotion of fascist violence, his illegal assassination of a high-ranking Iranian official, his destruction of the right to asylum and persecution of immigrants, his unconstitutional appropriation of Pentagon funds to build his border wall with Mexico or his repeated threats to remain in office regardless the outcome of either the impeachment trial or the 2020 vote. Instead, they are trying him in the Senate over foreign policy differences centering on his ostensible “softness” toward Russia, and specifically because he is seen to be disrupting longstanding plans to use Ukraine as a staging ground for war against Moscow.

In its brief in response to the Democrats, Trump’s defense team asserts the authoritarian conception of the “unitary executive” to essentially argue that the president is not subject to any form of control by Congress or the courts.
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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: TwoConcerned ()
Date: February 01, 2020 07:24PM

It's incredible that these people claim to love America and support American ideals, while choosing to threaten those who disagree with them with violence and death threats. That's not America. In America, we are free to, and expected to, question the government rather than blithlely believing everything they tell us. America was a product of the Enlightenment, a time when the citizenry was starting to overturn the old unitary executive model, and these dipshits have been brainwashed into believing that's now a good thing.

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: TYT ()
Date: February 01, 2020 07:26PM

TwoConcerned Wrote:
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> It's incredible that these people claim to love
> America and support American ideals, while
> choosing to threaten those who disagree with them
> with violence and death threats. That's not
> America. In America, we are free to, and expected
> to, question the government rather than blithlely
> believing everything they tell us. America was a
> product of the Enlightenment, a time when the
> citizenry was starting to overturn the old unitary
> executive model, and these dipshits have been
> brainwashed into believing that's now a good
> thing.

You need to either embrace "these people who claim to love America" and work to get them to join you as a socialist, or arm yourself and get ready for a civil war.

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: pwvel ()
Date: February 01, 2020 07:28PM

Expetitus Wrote:
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> No violence or arrests were reported at the rally.
> The police, generally sympathetic to the
> demonstrators, gave them free rein to parade
> around with their assault rifles and other gear.
> The fact, however, that the event went off
> peacefully does not diminish the threat to the
> working class and to democratic rights represented
> by the mobilization of far-right and politically
> confused elements on the basis of militarism,
> extreme individualism and national chauvinism.
>
> Over the weekend, the Democratic House managers,
> who will serve as prosecutors during the
> proceedings, released their brief against Trump.
> It reiterates the charge that Trump betrayed the
> country and undermined US “national security”
> by temporarily withholding $391 million in
> military aid to Ukraine. He then allegedly used
> the withheld arms package as leverage to pressure
> the Ukrainian government to announce a corruption
> investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden
> and his son Hunter.
>
> The Democrats are not seeking to remove Trump from
> office, or at least rein him in, over his very
> real attacks on democratic rights, his promotion
> of fascist violence, his illegal assassination of
> a high-ranking Iranian official, his destruction
> of the right to asylum and persecution of
> immigrants, his unconstitutional appropriation of
> Pentagon funds to build his border wall with
> Mexico or his repeated threats to remain in office
> regardless the outcome of either the impeachment
> trial or the 2020 vote. Instead, they are trying
> him in the Senate over foreign policy differences
> centering on his ostensible “softness” toward
> Russia, and specifically because he is seen to be
> disrupting longstanding plans to use Ukraine as a
> staging ground for war against Moscow.
>
> In its brief in response to the Democrats,
> Trump’s defense team asserts the authoritarian
> conception of the “unitary executive” to
> essentially argue that the president is not
> subject to any form of control by Congress or the
> courts.

^^^^
Gibberish. Utter and complete sophistry. Doesn't even make any sense.

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: Maricanata ()
Date: February 01, 2020 07:30PM

TYT Wrote:
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> TwoConcerned Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's incredible that these people claim to love
> > America and support American ideals, while
> > choosing to threaten those who disagree with
> them
> > with violence and death threats. That's not
> > America. In America, we are free to, and
> expected
> > to, question the government rather than
> blithlely
> > believing everything they tell us. America was
> a
> > product of the Enlightenment, a time when the
> > citizenry was starting to overturn the old
> unitary
> > executive model, and these dipshits have been
> > brainwashed into believing that's now a good
> > thing.
>
> You need to either embrace "these people who claim
> to love America" and work to get them to join you
> as a socialist, or arm yourself and get ready for
> a civil war.

They cannot be reasoned with or fascism is an emotional appeal and thus reason and rationality are hated.

Appeals to imaginary and magical worlds is what fascism is all about and these people find their lost selves in the narcism of Trump, the uber leader

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: WhiteBeaver ()
Date: February 01, 2020 07:31PM

The second amendment was written into the Constitution to guarantee that we would not have to believe, or be forced to believe, or submit, to an oppressive government.

6000 angry people with guns...not a shot fired...no one injured...one arrest.

The gun problem in America doesn't reside with the demographic that marched in Richmond.

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: 9m4yf ()
Date: February 01, 2020 07:38PM

Maricanata Wrote:
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> TYT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TwoConcerned Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It's incredible that these people claim to
> love
> > > America and support American ideals, while
> > > choosing to threaten those who disagree with
> > them
> > > with violence and death threats. That's not
> > > America. In America, we are free to, and
> > expected
> > > to, question the government rather than
> > blithlely
> > > believing everything they tell us. America
> was
> > a
> > > product of the Enlightenment, a time when the
> > > citizenry was starting to overturn the old
> > unitary
> > > executive model, and these dipshits have been
> > > brainwashed into believing that's now a good
> > > thing.
> >
> > You need to either embrace "these people who
> claim
> > to love America" and work to get them to join
> you
> > as a socialist, or arm yourself and get ready
> for
> > a civil war.
>
> They cannot be reasoned with or fascism is an
> emotional appeal and thus reason and rationality
> are hated.
>
> Appeals to imaginary and magical worlds is what
> fascism is all about and these people find their
> lost selves in the narcism of Trump, the uber
> leader

If you think Trump was the genesis of the gun rights movement you are a product of government media brain-washing. Trust me, these folks would turn on Trump in a split second if he double-crosses them. Which is possible.

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: What? ()
Date: February 01, 2020 07:40PM

Expetitus Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> No violence or arrests were reported at the rally.
> The police, generally sympathetic to the
> demonstrators, gave them free rein to parade
> around with their assault rifles and other gear.
> The fact, however, that the event went off
> peacefully does not diminish the threat to the
> working class and to democratic rights represented
> by the mobilization of far-right and politically
> confused elements on the basis of militarism,
> extreme individualism and national chauvinism.
>
> Over the weekend, the Democratic House managers,
> who will serve as prosecutors during the
> proceedings, released their brief against Trump.
> It reiterates the charge that Trump betrayed the
> country and undermined US “national security”
> by temporarily withholding $391 million in
> military aid to Ukraine. He then allegedly used
> the withheld arms package as leverage to pressure
> the Ukrainian government to announce a corruption
> investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden
> and his son Hunter.
>
> The Democrats are not seeking to remove Trump from
> office, or at least rein him in, over his very
> real attacks on democratic rights, his promotion
> of fascist violence, his illegal assassination of
> a high-ranking Iranian official, his destruction
> of the right to asylum and persecution of
> immigrants, his unconstitutional appropriation of
> Pentagon funds to build his border wall with
> Mexico or his repeated threats to remain in office
> regardless the outcome of either the impeachment
> trial or the 2020 vote. Instead, they are trying
> him in the Senate over foreign policy differences
> centering on his ostensible “softness” toward
> Russia, and specifically because he is seen to be
> disrupting longstanding plans to use Ukraine as a
> staging ground for war against Moscow.
>
> In its brief in response to the Democrats,
> Trump’s defense team asserts the authoritarian
> conception of the “unitary executive” to
> essentially argue that the president is not
> subject to any form of control by Congress or the
> courts.

"The Democrats are not seeking to remove Trump from office, or at least rein him in, over his very real attacks on democratic rights, his promotion of fascist violence, his illegal assassination of a high-ranking Iranian official, his destruction of the right to asylum and persecution of immigrants, his unconstitutional appropriation of Pentagon funds to build his border wall with Mexico or his repeated threats to remain in office regardless the outcome of either the impeachment trial or the 2020 vote."

Bad as this is, the legal tax cuts carried forth with Democratic party complicity arguably damaged so far more people who suffer for there being "no money." To which USA workers and those worldwide need to "impeach," evict, and try their ruling classes and later make physical and electronic memory museums to stop repeats of imperialist sludge.

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: There Is Never Been Government ()
Date: February 01, 2020 09:35PM

That has been totally socialist or communist that does not suppress the rights of people and put down those who disagree with violent force

America is a free nation and socialists will overplay their hand in America

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: The American Fascists ()
Date: February 01, 2020 09:36PM

Are those who suppress the rights of the people in the constitution

That's not the GOP

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: Antifa Bastards! ()
Date: March 01, 2020 05:04PM

The American Fascists Wrote:
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> Are those who suppress the rights of the people in
> the constitution
>
> That's not the GOP

Careful, Dems might be getting their own version of Trump here real soon.

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: It Resides in Criminals & Antifa ()
Date: March 01, 2020 05:36PM

>The gun problem in America doesn't reside with the demographic that marched in Richmond.

They are the problem, good thing they stayed away from Richmond

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Re: Northern Virginia, Richmond, and Last Months' Gun Rally
Posted by: Thats BS Lib ()
Date: March 01, 2020 05:39PM

>Careful, Dems might be getting their own version of Trump here real soon.

Trump supports the constitution and rule of law Dems don't look at their unconstitutional gun acts and the illegals swarming in to the USA any other lies to tell here asshole , you must be in love with the midget

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