From The Washington Business Journal:

The problems that led Metro officials to wave a warning flag on the start of the Silver Line just last week appear to have been been premature, or at least overly cautious.

Metro General Manager Richard Sarles told reporters on the agency's weekly update call Monday he hopes to announce as early as next Monday a start date for the much-anticipated rail service, depending on the ability of Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority and its contractors to finish up a number of key items by the end of the week.

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/breaking_ground/2014/06/start-date-on-silver-line-to-be-announced-soon.html

A rapid transit bus line has been running the whole time. It's a colossal waste of money...like the Columbia Pike streetcar.

**YAWN** Wrote:
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> A rapid transit bus line has been running the
> whole time. It's a colossal waste of money...like
> the Columbia Pike streetcar.

Progress is such a burden to neanderthals.

Hey, don't go knocking the Streetcar. Next thing you'll be dissing the million dollar bus stops in Arlington. Not cool bro. Not cool.

Get A LIfe... Wrote:
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> **YAWN** Wrote:
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> > A rapid transit bus line has been running the
> > whole time. It's a colossal waste of
> money...like
> > the Columbia Pike streetcar.
>
> Progress is such a burden to neanderthals.


Streetcar = progress.... yeah 80 years ago.

Progressive Progress Wrote:
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> Hey, don't go knocking the Streetcar. Next thing
> you'll be dissing the million dollar bus stops in
> Arlington. Not cool bro. Not cool.

You're an asshole. Pure and simple.

Fuck off, dickwad Wrote:
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> Progressive Progress Wrote:
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> > Hey, don't go knocking the Streetcar. Next
> thing
> > you'll be dissing the million dollar bus stops
> in
> > Arlington. Not cool bro. Not cool.
>
> You're an asshole. Pure and simple.


You mad bro? You like those million dollar bus stops. Think of all the affordable housing that could have been built with that money.

In all seriousness, really. What a colossal waste of money that could have been put to better uses. Or here's a crazy idea, returned to the taxpaying residents (all four of them) of Arlington County.

Progressive Progress. Wrote:
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> You mad bro?

No, just brutally honest. You're an asshole, pure and simple.

> You like those million dollar bus stops. Think of
> all the affordable housing that could have been built
> with that money.

There aren't any, you fucking moron. The spiffy design was scrapped and replaced with one costing less than half as much, yet still meeting most of the same needs. So go fuck yourself for being such a pathetic dork-brain.

> In all seriousness, really. What a colossal waste
> of money that could have been put to better uses.
> Or here's a crazy idea, returned to the taxpaying
> residents (all four of them) of Arlington County.

You're too stupid to have an income that would be taxed more than shoe-shine money. Somewhere there's a rock that's missing it's slimy little lizard.

Please get your facts straight before name calling. You're not being honest, it's you who's being the asshole.

The original million dollar bus stop was, well, a million dollars. It was the subsequent ones, after much public outcry, that were planned for less. So your comment about there not being any is factually incorrect.

Supporting data here, here, and here. Probably even more if you took five minutes to use this crazy thing called Google. There's another one like it called Yahoo and another called Bing. You have choices, unlike voters in Arlington County. Or really federal and state taxpayers since they covered most of the cost.

And it's highly likely that my annual income is more than you'll make in your entire lifetime.

Street car dorks. It's all cool when it's someone else's money.

I heard announcements being made over the PA at the McLean station yesterday, but the gates were locked.

So this was a "news" article saying there might be an announcement that will tell us when the Silver Line might open?

So we've sunk so low that instead of getting excited about the SL opening date, we're now getting spun up over the announcement date concerning the SL opening date. Yikes.

streetcars are stupid unless you are building infrastructure from scratch otherwise the changes/work necessary to support streetcars doesn't make sense compared to a traditional bus line. yes, it's called a bus. no, the word bus isn't as cool as streetcar.

oh, and please don't spend extra money to get buses shaped like streetcars.

What a great idea: buses that look like streetcars. Wonderful compromise. Plus it will leave money for more million dollar bus stops.

How about a monorail? These things are cool.



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eesh Wrote:
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> How about a monorail? These things are cool.

Is there a chance the track could bend?

Apu Wrote:
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> > How about a monorail? These things are cool.
>
> Is there a chance the track could bend?


Not on your life, my Hindu friend

Fuck off, dickwad Wrote:
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> There aren't any, you fucking moron. The spiffy
> design was scrapped and replaced with one costing
> less than half as much, yet still meeting most of
> the same needs. So go fuck yourself for being
> such a pathetic dork-brain.
>

Yeah, because $400K+ bus stops are a real bargain.

Relative Relativism Wrote:
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> Fuck off, dickwad Wrote:
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> >
> > There aren't any, you fucking moron. The
> spiffy
> > design was scrapped and replaced with one
> costing
> > less than half as much, yet still meeting most
> of
> > the same needs. So go fuck yourself for being
> > such a pathetic dork-brain.
> >
>
> Yeah, because $400K+ bus stops are a real bargain.

and light rail stops, which can hold dozens of people at a time. How much do you think a transit center costs dipshit?

This isn't some plastic shit shack on Braddock Road that serves your grandmother, its for a corridor that has more people using buses than cars every day dumb fuck.

Progressive Progress. Wrote:
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> Please get your facts straight before name calling.

Been there, done that. You're a confused and pathetic goober asshole who can't read plain English.

> The original million dollar bus stop was, well, a
> million dollars.

No, it wasn't, you colossal dumbfuck. You have fallen for more idiotic flash-mob "death panels" propaganda. A prototype was unveiled last year under a $20.9 million contract to design and build 24 bus/streetcar stops along Columbia Pike. Math goobers divide the $20.9 million by 24 stops and conclude that each stop would have cost $871 thousand. That's just plain stupid. Meanwhile, the prototype had multiple design and performance issues and was not scalable. The design was therefore rejected and replaced by a modular alternative that resolves the performance issues and allows four different-sized stops to be built from the same components. The contract to move forward on those is for $12.4 million. It is the cost of building ALL THE STOPS that has dropped by 40% in this process, not the cost of building any individual stop. Fucking nitwit.

> It was the subsequent ones, after much public
> outcry, that were planned for less. So your
> comment about there not being any is factually
> incorrect.

No, it isn't, asshole. The prototype did not cost a million dollars even by mindless goober math. There are no million dollar bus stops in existence anywhere in Arlington and none are in the pipeline. Everything you have said is factually incorrect.

> And it's highly likely that my annual
> income is more than you'll make in your entire
> lifetime.

You aren't smart enough to make a noticeable fraction of what I do. People with bogus brains get laughed out of the rooms where serious people are working. Nothing worthwhile to contribute? Get the fuck out!

Fuck off, dickwad Wrote:
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> Street car dorks. It's all cool when it's someone
> else's money.

The money belongs to the federal, state, and local governments. Exactly $0.00 of it belongs to you. You have no say at all in how that money is spent, so think seriously about some nice STFU.

again, for the amusement of all. The spittle flecks flying as it types furiously are especially charming...

Now get your shinebox.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/1-million-bus-stop-opens-in-arlington/2013/03/24/49e5c47e-917c-11e2-9abd-e4c5c9dc5e90_story.html

George Bushy Style! You must be a teabagger GOPr.

snowdenscold Wrote:
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> So we've sunk so low that instead of getting
> excited about the SL opening date, we're now
> getting spun up over the announcement date
> concerning the SL opening date. Yikes.

Metro has regular Monday conference calls with the media. On Monday, June 16, GM Sarles indicated that Metro might be ready to announce an opening date for Silver Line service on Monday, June 23. So the media reported that. Are you so mentally and emotionally unbalanced that this causes problems for you?

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> streetcars are stupid unless you are building
> infrastructure from scratch otherwise the
> changes/work necessary to support streetcars
> doesn't make sense compared to a traditional bus
> line.

Oh, an engineer, huh? Can you tell us about the differences in maintenance costs for electric versus internal combustion engines? And how long do rubber tires last in comparison to steel wheels?

Small buses make sense along variable outlying and short-haul feeder routes. Light-rail is a bargain when it comes to stable mainline transit routes. Such as the Columbia Pike Corridor.

Said no one, ever.

Relative Relativism Wrote:
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> Yeah, because $400K+ bus stops are a real bargain.

How much would you expect to pay? How much would you expect to pay to install a typical traffic signal?

No Concept of Reality Wrote:
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> Relative Relativism Wrote:
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> > Yeah, because $400K+ bus stops are a real
> bargain.
>
> How much would you expect to pay? How much would
> you expect to pay to install a typical traffic
> signal?


Queres un bus stop? 8 dias y $1500 con $500 gift card al home depot

traffic signal? media dia y $100

Light-rail is a bargain Wrote:
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> Said no one, ever.


Except for Salt Lake City, Charlotte, Denver all of which have boomed in commercial real estate around their bargain light rail systems

Fuckin (R)etard dipshit

And ultra shocker the (R)etard (R)epublican loves throwing in illegal hispanic people in any argument he gets in meng.

Fuckin tard with a capital (R)

Wow, you know how to make big fonts. Can you teach the rest of us? Is there any other magic you possess?

Lib-tardz

Jewh8ter2 is spewing "goober" Wrote:
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> again, for the amusement of all. The spittle
> flecks flying as it types furiously are especially
> charming...Now get your shinebox.

How did you assholes ever graduate from high school? Even the prototype DID NOT cost a million dollars. That is a propagandist's and headline-writer's bright-shiny-object ploy designed to grab your attention. Apparently, it worked. Goober assholes are ever too stupid to know any better. Get led around like a bull with ring in its nose. Except that the bull would probably be smarter and more aware.

"money belongs" = GOP line of BS Wrote:
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> George Bushy Style! You must be a teabagger GOPr.

No, asshole. Bush wanted you to believe that it was all your "hard-earned money" and that he was going to give it back to you. Of course, he actually gave almost all of it to already wealthy people instead. Paved the way to the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression.

Meanwhile taxes belong to the government once you pay them, just as the grocery money belongs to WalMart once you fork it over at the end of the checkout line. It's a simple fact, whether you are clever enough to grasp it or not.

Light-rail is a bargain Wrote:
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> Said no one, ever.

Obviously, you have exactly ZERO knowledge in the field. Just another mouth-breather goober fucktard.

Fuck off, dickwad Wrote:
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> Progressive Progress. Wrote:
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> There aren't any, you fucking moron. The spiffy
> design was scrapped and replaced with one costing
> less than half as much, yet still meeting most of
> the same needs. So go fuck yourself for being
> such a pathetic dork-brain.
>

Nothing better than some dickhead getting on his soapbox only to be completely wrong.

cavron de spreengfield Wrote:
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> Queres un bus stop? 8 dias y $1500 con $500 gift
> card al home depot traffic signal? media dia y $100

Yeah, that's about the intellectual level we expect from the typical right-wing babbler. IQ somewhere in the 75-80 range. Drops out early, then starts speaking in tongues. What a hoot these dull-brained goobers are!

(R)etard Alert, tax hound stabit Wrote:
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> Except for Salt Lake City, Charlotte, Denver all
> of which have boomed in commercial real estate
> around their bargain light rail systems

There are many more examples than that, but not every transit system should be expected to work out as as hoped for, particularly in the short-run. It pays to do your homework and to stay out ahead of the curve. The preponderance of evidence of course is that well-managed light-rail hits its intended targets while providing various positive externalities. More than 30 urban light-rail systems are in operation in the US today, and more and more will soon enough be joining them.

mLhh7 Wrote:
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> Nothing better than some dickhead getting on his
> soapbox only to be completely wrong.

PAY ATTENTION: There are no million-dollar bus stops in existence anywhere in Arlington and none are in the pipeline.

you dont know shit Wrote:
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> This isn't some plastic shit shack on Braddock
> Road that serves your grandmother, its for a


Not really a whole lot more than that.



About the same as you'll see dozens of at any given moderately sized airport which don't cost nearly that much. Don't need to anyway.

$20.9 million/24 stations = $870K each on average.


> corridor that has more people using buses than
> cars every day dumb fuck.

Not a chance.

Transit Impacts Wrote:
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> (R)etard Alert, tax hound stabit Wrote:
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> > Except for Salt Lake City, Charlotte, Denver
> all
> > of which have boomed in commercial real estate
> > around their bargain light rail systems
>
> There are many more examples than that, but not
> every transit system should be expected to work
> out as as hoped for, particularly in the
> short-run. It pays to do your homework and to
> stay out ahead of the curve. The preponderance of
> evidence of course is that well-managed light-rail
> hits its intended targets while providing various
> positive externalities. More than 30 urban
> light-rail systems are in operation in the US
> today, and more and more will soon enough be
> joining them.


Those are light rail systems serving entire metro areas which are a larger part of the overall transportation for the area, more similar to our Metro, not some rootie-poo glorified street car running up and down Columbia Pike. They can work very well where appropriate. Doesn't mean that necessarily extends to this specific case.

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> $20.9 million/24 stations = $870K each on
> average.

Goober-math asshole. $870K is not $1,000K. Plus none of the balance of the stops under the original contract will ever be built. Your picture meanwhile is of the new design, the one to be built under the $12.4 million dollar contract. Here's a better rendering of it...
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Notta Chance Wrote:
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> > corridor that has more people using buses than
> > cars every day dumb fuck.
>
> Not a chance.

Really? How long have you worked as a traffic engineer for Arlington County? Surely your extensive experience would have enabled you to provide some actual numbers to back up your claim. Odd that you didn't include them.

Above your pay-grade Wrote:
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> Notta Chance Wrote:
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> > > corridor that has more people using buses
> than
> > > cars every day dumb fuck.
> >
> > Not a chance.
>
> Really? How long have you worked as a traffic
> engineer for Arlington County? Surely your
> extensive experience would have enabled you to
> provide some actual numbers to back up your claim.
> Odd that you didn't include them.


Sure thing

http://mobilitylab.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2009-AC-Resident-Transportation-PRESENTATION.pdf

bFNTP Wrote:
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> Those are light rail systems serving entire metro
> areas which are a larger part of the overall
> transportation for the area, more similar to our
> Metro, not some rootie-poo glorified street car
> running up and down Columbia Pike. They can work
> very well where appropriate. Doesn't mean that
> necessarily extends to this specific case.

There is no comparison at all to Metro which even without the Silver Line is a 106-mile heavy-rail system. None of the light-rail systems mentioned is even half that. The LYNX system in Charlotte covers all of 10 miles.

And like it or not, Columbia Pike is the most heavily used transit corridor in the state. Absent some overdue investment in infrastructure, it is also headed toward economic decay. Sort of like H Street NE was in the district before DC Streetcar came along.

And take a look someday at regional transit plans for the area. The Columbia Pike line is one of a dozen or more light-rail lines that will one day criss-cross the county.

Above your pay-grade Wrote:
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> Notta Chance Wrote:
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> > > corridor that has more people using buses
> than
> > > cars every day dumb fuck.
> >
> > Not a chance.
>
> Really? How long have you worked as a traffic
> engineer for Arlington County? Surely your
> extensive experience would have enabled you to
> provide some actual numbers to back up your claim.
> Odd that you didn't include them.


Don't have to be a traffic engineer to have a general idea of how many bus runs there are in a given day, how many people can fit on a bus, and how much traffic there is otherwise along that route in a given period of time.

That might be true for some version of a more limited view of point-to-point intra-corridor movement within some parts (reflecting the current demographics) but not for overall movement into, out of, within, and through.

It was your claim. Back it up yourself.

Muoy Wrongage Wrote:
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> bFNTP Wrote:
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> > Those are light rail systems serving entire
> metro
> > areas which are a larger part of the overall
> > transportation for the area, more similar to
> our
> > Metro, not some rootie-poo glorified street car
> > running up and down Columbia Pike. They can
> work
> > very well where appropriate. Doesn't mean that
> > necessarily extends to this specific case.
>
> There is no comparison at all to Metro which even
> without the Silver Line is a 106-mile heavy-rail
> system. None of the light-rail systems mentioned
> is even half that. The LYNX system in Charlotte
> covers all of 10 miles.
>
> And like it or not, Columbia Pike is the most
> heavily used transit corridor in the state.
> Absent some overdue investment in infrastructure,
> it is also headed toward economic decay. Sort of
> like H Street NE was in the district before DC
> Streetcar came along.
>
> And take a look someday at regional transit plans
> for the area. The Columbia Pike line is one of a
> dozen or more light-rail lines that will one day
> criss-cross the county.


Obviously most are not as large. They do serve more of the same function in terms of a primary central transit system for that area.

I have nothing against light rail. Just not really an equivalent case comparing something like Charlotte LYNX to this project other than that they both happen to be light rail.

Lying Dumbfuck Wrote:
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> Notta Chance Wrote:
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> > $20.9 million/24 stations = $870K each on
> > average.
>
> Goober-math asshole. $870K is not $1,000K. Plus
> none of the balance of the stops under the
> original contract will ever be built. Your
> picture meanwhile is of the new design, the one to
> be built under the $12.4 million dollar contract.
> Here's a better rendering of it...
> .


Didn't say that it was.

You can use the $12.4/23 basis = $539K each on average.

Still a bunch of money.

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> Sure thing

A 227-slide Powerpoint? That doesn't even discuss the matter of car versus transit trips through the corridor? You would have posted the data to back up your claim if you had any. Clearly, you don't and are trying to cover your sorry ass by running off and hiding in the weeds. What a worthless piece of ignorant fucking goober shit you are.

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> It was your claim. Back it up yourself.

No, it wasn't. My only claim has been that Columbia Pike is the busiest transit corridor in the state. You came with your "not a chance" claims against another's suggestion that there are more bus than auto trips along the corridor. As has now been so plainly confirmed, you had exactly nothing at all standing behind that claim. Stupid goober assfuck.

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> > It was your claim. Back it up yourself.
>
> No, it wasn't. My only claim has been that
> Columbia Pike is the busiest transit corridor in
> the state. You came with your "not a chance"
> claims against another's suggestion that there are
> more bus than auto trips along the corridor. As
> has now been so plainly confirmed, you had exactly
> nothing at all standing behind that claim. Stupid
> goober assfuck.


Then why are you responding to it and asking me to:

> provide some actual numbers to back up your claim

I didn't make any claim other than the idea that the idea that more people use the bus than cars in that in corridor as it was presented obviously is bs.

I didn't post the survey but based on responses in it bus use isn't real high even for Columbia Pike where demographics more favor it.

Asswipe.

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> Obviously most are not as large.

That's because they are not comparable to Metro at all. It was foolish to have suggested such a thing.

> They do serve more of the same function in terms
> of a primary central transit system for that area.

LYNX currently carries some 15-20 thousand people per day. The older and larger Denver and Salt Lake light-rail systems carry 3-4 times that. Metro carries 760 thousand people per day. There is no comparison.

> I have nothing against light rail. Just not
> really an equivalent case comparing something like
> Charlotte LYNX to this project other than that
> they both happen to be light rail.

The 10-mile LYNX system runs from a suburban shopping mall to downtown transit connections. The 5-mile Columbia Pike transit line will run from a suburban shopping mall to downtown transit connections. Each is the initial leg of a planned larger network. Ridership levels are projected to be about the same. You want a difference? LYNX has dedicated right-of-way where VDOT precludes that on Columbia Pike.

I live in Culmore, and I'm just thuper excited for this project.

Notta Chance Wrote:
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> Didn't say that it was.

Yes, you did. "$20.9 million/24 stations = $870K each on average" is cancelled contract language.

> You can use the $12.4/23 basis = $539K each on
> average. Still a bunch of money.

Of course it's a bunch of money. Fear of large numbers however will get you nothing but nothing done. I will ask again since I haven't seen a goober-answer yet, how much do you think a typical traffic signal costs? More than, less than, or about the same as one of these bus stops? Has that been simplified enough for you yet?

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> Then why are you responding to it and asking me to
> provide some actual numbers...

Because your claim was so probably just goober shoot-from-the-hip nonsense based on nothing but personal supposition. You've now confirmed that hypothesis.

I see a conservative bitch getting owned.

Asshole sighting the Culmore res Wrote:
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> I live in Culmore, and I'm just thuper excited for
> this project.

You'll be even more excited when streetcars start running up Route-7 and around Tysons Corner. That's a ways off yet of course, but it is one more part of where all this is going.

More Clueless Mumbling Wrote:
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> bknGG Wrote:
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> > Obviously most are not as large.
>
> That's because they are not comparable to Metro at
> all. It was foolish to have suggested such a
> thing.
>
> > They do serve more of the same function in terms
>
> > of a primary central transit system for that
> area.
>
> LYNX currently carries some 15-20 thousand people
> per day. The older and larger Denver and Salt
> Lake light-rail systems carry 3-4 times that.
> Metro carries 760 thousand people per day. There
> is no comparison.
>
> > I have nothing against light rail. Just not
> > really an equivalent case comparing something
> like
> > Charlotte LYNX to this project other than that
> > they both happen to be light rail.
>
> The 10-mile LYNX system runs from a suburban
> shopping mall to downtown transit connections.
> The 5-mile Columbia Pike transit line will run
> from a suburban shopping mall to downtown transit
> connections. Each is the initial leg of a planned
> larger network. Ridership levels are projected to
> be about the same. You want a difference? LYNX
> has dedicated right-of-way where VDOT precludes
> that on Columbia Pike.


You're a dumbass. It serves a similar role there to that of Metro here. It's clear what I was saying and that I wasn't comparing it in terms of size. Really not that tough to follow.

Useless Two-Bit Hack Wrote:
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> Notta Chance Wrote:
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> > Didn't say that it was.
>
> Yes, you did. "$20.9 million/24 stations = $870K
> each on average" is cancelled contract language.


Uh, no dummy. That was in response to you saying that it wasn't $1 million.

> Goober-math asshole. $870K is not $1,000K.

Try to keep up.



> > You can use the $12.4/23 basis = $539K each on
> > average. Still a bunch of money.
>
> Of course it's a bunch of money. Fear of large
> numbers however will get you nothing but nothing
> done. I will ask again since I haven't seen a
> goober-answer yet, how much do you think a typical
> traffic signal costs? More than, less than, or
> about the same as one of these bus stops? Has
> that been simplified enough for you yet?


Traffic signal cost isn't particularly relevant the cost of glorified bus stops. Especially when it's not going to offset any traffic signals and it's just one part of the overall cost of the project.

Get A Clue Wrote:
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> Notta Chance Wrote:
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> > Then why are you responding to it and asking me
> to
> > provide some actual numbers...
>
> Because your claim was so probably just goober
> shoot-from-the-hip nonsense based on nothing but
> personal supposition. You've now confirmed that
> hypothesis.


Because I'm right. You don't need a traffic study to know that bus ridership on Columbia Pike doesn't approach the numbers of people in cars.

So where's the funding for this white elephant project coming from?

Oh wait, here it is (along with Crystal City streetcar. That's new.).

And surprise, none if comes from the pockets of locals or any turds on this website cheerleading for it.

Money comes from the feds, who are broke.

The state taxpayers.

And commercial and real estate, who cover everyone's ass.

Spending other peoples' money much be such a great feeling for you. It's like getting high. It's like ejaculating fire I've heard.

bknGG Wrote:
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> You're a dumbass. It serves a similar role there
> to that of Metro here. It's clear what I was
> saying and that I wasn't comparing it in terms of
> size. Really not that tough to follow.

Nope, not tough at all. It just all leads to you're being an ignorant assfuck who wandered in way over his head. By the way, the Tampa light-rail system serves primarily tourists. Locals hardly ever use it. Just like Metro.

Notta Chance Wrote:
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> Uh, no dummy. That was in response to you saying
> that it wasn't $1 million.

No, it wasn't. Let's see if we can refresh the filthy lying douchebag's memory for him...

"Not really a whole lot more than that. About the same as you'll see dozens of at any given moderately sized airport which don't cost nearly that much. Don't need to anyway. $20.9 million/24 stations = $870K each on average."

> Traffic signal cost isn't particularly relevant
> the cost of glorified bus stops.

More relevant shit that you simply don't know about. You're like some 3-year old girl lost in the deep dark woods on a moonless night.

Notta Chance Wrote:
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> Because I'm right. You don't need a traffic study
> to know that bus ridership on Columbia Pike
> doesn't approach the numbers of people in cars.

You may or may not be right. The point is that you'll be the last one to know, since once again, you don't have a fucking actual clue.

LOLOL... Wrote:
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> bknGG Wrote:
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> > You're a dumbass. It serves a similar role
> there
> > to that of Metro here. It's clear what I was
> > saying and that I wasn't comparing it in terms
> of
> > size. Really not that tough to follow.
>
> Nope, not tough at all. It just all leads to
> you're being an ignorant assfuck who wandered in
> way over his head. By the way, the Tampa
> light-rail system serves primarily tourists.
> Locals hardly ever use it. Just like Metro.


Which has no relevance to the point that the circumstances around LYNX and other specific light rail systems aren't necessarily comparable to this simply because they happen to be light rail.

bknGG Wrote:
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> Which has no relevance to the point that the
> circumstances around LYNX and other specific light
> rail systems aren't necessarily comparable to this
> simply because they happen to be light rail.

Your cause here was lost a long time ago, dumbo...
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> Notta Chance Wrote:
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> > Uh, no dummy. That was in response to you
> saying
> > that it wasn't $1 million.
>
> No, it wasn't. Let's see if we can refresh the
> filthy lying douchebag's memory for him...
>
> "Not really a whole lot more than that. About the
> same as you'll see dozens of at any given
> moderately sized airport which don't cost nearly
> that much. Don't need to anyway. $20.9 million/24
> stations = $870K each on average."


No dumbshit. This was the specific exchange that I responded to saying that I never said that it was $1 million:

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Notta Chance Wrote:
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> $20.9 million/24 stations = $870K each on
> average.

Goober-math asshole. $870K is not $1,000K. Plus none of the balance of the stops under the original contract will ever be built. Your picture meanwhile is of the new design, the one to be built under the $12.4 million dollar contract. Here's a better rendering of it...

You know that people can just scroll up right and read it for themselves right? lmao


>
> > Traffic signal cost isn't particularly relevant
> > the cost of glorified bus stops.
>
> More relevant shit that you simply don't know
> about. You're like some 3-year old girl lost in
> the deep dark woods on a moonless night.


Deep bro deep.

The transit stops cost on average $539K each. Only for the transit stations. Anyway that you want to add it up there are any number of more practical and less expensive alternatives which would deliver the same or better service for that area.

Hey, Asshole Wrote:
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> Notta Chance Wrote:
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> -----
> > Because I'm right. You don't need a traffic
> study
> > to know that bus ridership on Columbia Pike
> > doesn't approach the numbers of people in cars.
>
> You may or may not be right. The point is that
> you'll be the last one to know, since once again,
> you don't have a fucking actual clue.


I am right. And you know that I'm right.

Point is that it was a stupid claim but you can't let it go because, well, because you're an asshole.

Period.

Notta Chance Wrote:
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> Poor Baby Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Notta Chance Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Uh, no dummy. That was in response to you
> > saying
> > > that it wasn't $1 million.
> >
> > No, it wasn't. Let's see if we can refresh the
> > filthy lying douchebag's memory for him...
> >
> > "Not really a whole lot more than that. About
> the
> > same as you'll see dozens of at any given
> > moderately sized airport which don't cost
> nearly
> > that much. Don't need to anyway. $20.9
> million/24
> > stations = $870K each on average."
>
>
> No dumbshit. This was the specific exchange that
> I responded to saying that I never said that it
> was $1 million:
>
>

Quote

> Notta Chance Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> ---
> > $20.9 million/24 stations = $870K each on
> > average.
>
> Goober-math asshole. $870K is not $1,000K.
> Plus none of the balance of the stops under the
> original contract will ever be built. Your picture
> meanwhile is of the new design, the one to be
> built under the $12.4 million dollar contract.
> Here's a better rendering of it...
>

>
> You know that people can just scroll up right and
> read it for themselves right? lmao
>
>
> >
> > > Traffic signal cost isn't particularly
> relevant
> > > the cost of glorified bus stops.
> >
> > More relevant shit that you simply don't know
> > about. You're like some 3-year old girl lost
> in
> > the deep dark woods on a moonless night.
>
>
> Deep bro deep.
>
> The transit stops cost on average $539K each.
> Only for the transit stations. Anyway that you
> want to add it up there are any number of more
> practical and less expensive alternatives which
> would deliver the same or better service for that
> area.


Like what you fuckin douche? There are already bus stops, they are maxed out. So whats your cost effective solution that wont cost more, provides electronic info about the next bus, is ready adaptable to light rail in the future, when it will happen, etc?

You have nothing. You have the same shit that you moron teaparty douchebags who love to talk about gutting cost bring up every time, nothing but doing nothing. You are the idiots who put the god damn silver line above ground in the first place rabbling about cost first, despite it having been much smarter to go below ground in Tysons for a minimal extra cost.

Now we have what we have, and you morons who have that repeated thousands of times over until this country looks like Caracas and not America. Teaparty (R)etard logic fucking cunt

Btw a traffic signal STUDY by itself can cost upwards of 200k, let alone the actual hardware, labor, shutting down the intersection, safety controls, which can reach $1 million. Personally, I think a better bus stop that provides real time information, is expanded in seating, and is ready adaptable to other bus forms is just as important as a traffic signal in a network.

You idiot goobers have no fuckin idea how much shit costs because you think your mcmansion particle board houses are a good measure of what things should cost. Your house will collapse within the next decade, or near tens of thousands to keep from doing so, its basically made of sucrose and wishful thinking.

Fuck off and die already old people, no one wants you around anymore stealing all the jobs with your tenure and douchebaggery, so from the bottom of my heart, walk your face into oncoming traffic and the closest intersection, one with a traffic signal, which costs more than these bus stops and garners none of the bullshit ire you portend to have because you are a sheep.

PWNing Libtards is My Job Sister Wrote:
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> So where's the funding for this white elephant
> project coming from?
>
> Oh wait, here it is (along with Crystal City
> streetcar. That's new.).
>
> And surprise, none if comes from the pockets of
> locals or any turds on this website cheerleading
> for it.
>
> Money comes from the feds, who are broke.
>
> The state taxpayers.
>
> And commercial and real estate, who cover
> everyone's ass.
>
> Spending other peoples' money much be such a great
> feeling for you. It's like getting high. It's like
> ejaculating fire I've heard.
>
> src="http://sites.arlingtonva.us/streetcar/files/2
> 012/05/Proposed_Funding_graphs.jpg">


As opposed to the Gainseville overpass, the 460 bypass, and coalfields expressway, which cost nearly 1 billion dollars each, and came exclusively from state and federal funds without any private or local tax money. By the way you might want to check your numbers, in the CC case, the S&F funds are the minority.

Point being, you are full of shit, you only complain when its transit, despite road projects being more bloated, not having to prove any of the same user numbers, not having any non-state and federal funding sources. but then again

TRUCKS MOTHA FUCKA, I GOTTA RIDE MY HUMMA FROM THE DOOR TO THE FLOOOOOOOOOOOOR like SKYNARD MUTHA FUCKA YAAAAAAAAA

AMERKA FUCK YA!!!! WOOOOOOOO

Burn in hell champ, run your face into a lava field, but make sure you film it because I want to see it over and over again on youtube. Don't worry, I've talked to the folks at youtube, for your case alone they will waive the censor requirements. Thats how much your death means to society.

You all sound like a bunch of retards. Go back to your Mike Omeara thread.

Dude, you've got some serious hate issues. You should seek help.

A friend if you need one Wrote:
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> Dude, you've got some serious hate issues. You
> should seek help.


That was directed at die in a lava field teaparty dik

Will the Columbia Pike Streetcar suffer the same fate?

A friend if you need one Wrote:
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> Dude, you've got some serious hate issues. You
> should seek help.


Yes, I hate you, I want you douchebags that hold society back with your phony one sider arguments against transit, which the rest of the world has been laughing at us about for the past half century, to burn in hell. Burn. Seriously. Die, go to the pearly gates and get the anal rape treatment at the doorstep by the devil himself as god watches and gives a thumbs up, because you are a douche, and the big guy hates you fucks.

Mk?

I have lit a candle tonight at the cathedral praying for your quick and timely demise.

Love you cutie. XoXo, burn in hell.

Whoa. I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I just got on here because I was doing a searching on light rail systems across the country. My sixth grader has a report due by Friday and while he's done a pretty good job I'm just searching a little more to help with supporting materials. He'll still have to bring it all together. But I saw all of the rage in your post and just had to tell you there are friendlies out here too.

I'm sure this bus stop didn't cost $1 million, or $800k or $478k or whatever number you're throwing out there.

And look, it's served by three Metrobus lines as well as Faifax Connector and some commuter line to southern Prince William county.
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Teaparty cunt chode grease Wrote:
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>
> Now we have what we have, and you morons who have
> that repeated thousands of times over until this
> country looks like Caracas and not America.
> Teaparty (R)etard logic fucking cunt


Wait... So you're the guy who wants to build a an expensive trolley system which even it's proponents on the Transit Advisory Committee concede is primarily justified on the basis of hoping to attract big money developers in order to gentrify the Pike with 1%ers and push out all of those nasty brown people who are running down the place... and we're the Tea Party cunts?

LMAO!

Thas Racith Wrote:
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> Teaparty cunt chode grease Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >
> > Now we have what we have, and you morons who
> have
> > that repeated thousands of times over until
> this
> > country looks like Caracas and not America.
> > Teaparty (R)etard logic fucking cunt
>
>
> Wait... So you're the guy who wants to build a an
> expensive trolley system which even it's
> proponents on the Transit Advisory Committee
> concede is primarily justified on the basis of
> hoping to attract big money developers in order to
> gentrify the Pike with 1%ers and push out all of
> those nasty brown people who are running down the
> place... and we're the Tea Party cunts?
>
> LMAO!
>
>



For the liberal, logic and facts cannot compete with intransigence and dogma. And as the original bigot, the liberal, now re-incarnated as Progressive, must take every opportunity to belittle and name call anyone who will not march lock-step with his ideological purity. So to your comment, yes, makes total sense to him (or her or it, I don't know).

God, you're an asshole Wrote:
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> "money belongs" = GOP line of BS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > George Bushy Style! You must be a teabagger
> GOPr.
>
> No, asshole. Bush wanted you to believe that it
> was all your "hard-earned money" and that he was
> going to give it back to you. Of course, he
> actually gave almost all of it to already wealthy
> people instead.

Yeah, "Bush" gave it to wealthy people, like Obama's friends at Solyndra who walked away with hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars while their corrupt solar company went bankrupt at your expense. Or Obama exempting all of his rich friends that donated to DNC from the expenses of Obamacare that the rest of us must pay, the rich folks at Fisker that payed into Obama's campaign and walked away with tens of millions of your tax dollars, CGI--the well connected but incompetent so-called tech company that constructed the HealthCare.gov disaster for only hundreds of millions of your wasted tax dollars, or the big Drug Companies that received tax dollar handoffs after agreeing to sponsor Obamacare advertising..... But keep blaming Bush as your head rests firmly in the sand.

They blame Bush with the last breath of their worthless lives. I would say that a century from now their children's grandchildren will blame Bush, but libtards are either too busy fellating and sodomizing themselves into oblivion or aborting anything that so much as twitches. So they have no future.

Hmm, on the Silver Line 1,400 people ride on a single 8 car train every two minutes and no delays all the way. Sounds like a good deal to me.

Streetcars I just don't get. It's only like 20 more people than a bus and they block traffic. WHY are the tracks in the middle of the street? They should have done it right by putting them on the sides and who cares about parking.

6tDEE Wrote:
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> Hmm, on the Silver Line 1,400 people ride on a
> single 8 car train every two minutes and no delays
> all the way. Sounds like a good deal to me.
>
> Streetcars I just don't get. It's only like 20
> more people than a bus and they block traffic.
> WHY are the tracks in the middle of the street?
> They should have done it right by putting them on
> the sides and who cares about parking.

Plus they have to stop for every ready light and block the box asshole in his 5 series. Metro does not.