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Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
but hillary but obama Benghazi!
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Date: July 18, 2018 08:15AM
Ms. Butina, who was indicted Tuesday on charges of conspiracy and acting as a foreign agent, did not register with the Justice Department as a foreign agent. That failure is central to the government’s charges that she violated the federal lobbying law and conspired with Mr. Torshin, the deputy head of Russia’s central bank, to influence American politics on behalf of the Russian government.
A 29-year-old recent graduate of American University in Washington, Ms. Butina was upfront about her three great passions: gun rights, President Trump and better relations between the United States and Russia. She posted photographs of her meetings with American politicians, including Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, a Republican, all over social media. She joked about buying a friend high in the Russian government his favorite American toothpaste.
But it was all a ruse, federal prosecutors say, a cover for Ms. Butina to advance Russia’s agenda within the Republican Party. For three years, they said, she was part of a low-cost, low-risk influence operation that was run by the senior Russian official, Alexander Torshin, and was assisted by an unnamed American operative with Republican ties. She is also said to have gotten help from the National Rifle Association, which repeatedly brought Ms. Butina from her native Russia to the United States for events until she obtained a student visa in August 2016.
A 29-year-old recent graduate of American University in Washington, Ms. Butina was upfront about her three great passions: gun rights, President Trump and better relations between the United States and Russia. She posted photographs of her meetings with American politicians, including Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, a Republican, all over social media. She joked about buying a friend high in the Russian government his favorite American toothpaste.
But it was all a ruse, federal prosecutors say, a cover for Ms. Butina to advance Russia’s agenda within the Republican Party. For three years, they said, she was part of a low-cost, low-risk influence operation that was run by the senior Russian official, Alexander Torshin, and was assisted by an unnamed American operative with Republican ties. She is also said to have gotten help from the National Rifle Association, which repeatedly brought Ms. Butina from her native Russia to the United States for events until she obtained a student visa in August 2016.
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
Low-graders
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Date: July 18, 2018 08:26AM
Today's corporate-fed GOP is about criminal enterprise behind the scenes while out in public, they run ridiculous circus sideshows for their devoted but quite demented fans. All to the disadvantage of the nation.
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
You got it brother
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Date: July 18, 2018 08:35AM
Low-graders Wrote:
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> Today's corporate-fed GOP is about criminal
> enterprise behind the scenes while out in public,
> they run ridiculous circus sideshows for their
> devoted but quite demented fans. All to the
> disadvantage of the nation.
Exactly. This GOP administration was the one who brought the charges, but what....wait....huh....
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> Today's corporate-fed GOP is about criminal
> enterprise behind the scenes while out in public,
> they run ridiculous circus sideshows for their
> devoted but quite demented fans. All to the
> disadvantage of the nation.
Exactly. This GOP administration was the one who brought the charges, but what....wait....huh....
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
Godd Bless America
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Date: July 18, 2018 10:27AM
You got it brother Wrote:
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> Low-graders Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Today's corporate-fed GOP is about criminal
> > enterprise behind the scenes while out in
> public,
> > they run ridiculous circus sideshows for their
> > devoted but quite demented fans. All to the
> > disadvantage of the nation.
>
>
> Exactly. This GOP administration was the one who
> brought the charges, but what....wait....huh....
lol you brag about the 'witch hunt' filing charges due to criminal acts - as if this is some kind of virtue rather than the law of the land. BTW that is the Justice Department while every political GOP operative (except a few leaving) are fighting to shut down all investigations into Russia/Trump while re-opening investigations into Hillary.
Surely you are not pretending to hold a position that the Congress or President are doing anything other than trying to extinguish the investigations that have already produced dozens of indictments and some guilty pleas. Tell me you are not now trying to say the GOP supports the investigations.
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> Low-graders Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Today's corporate-fed GOP is about criminal
> > enterprise behind the scenes while out in
> public,
> > they run ridiculous circus sideshows for their
> > devoted but quite demented fans. All to the
> > disadvantage of the nation.
>
>
> Exactly. This GOP administration was the one who
> brought the charges, but what....wait....huh....
lol you brag about the 'witch hunt' filing charges due to criminal acts - as if this is some kind of virtue rather than the law of the land. BTW that is the Justice Department while every political GOP operative (except a few leaving) are fighting to shut down all investigations into Russia/Trump while re-opening investigations into Hillary.
Surely you are not pretending to hold a position that the Congress or President are doing anything other than trying to extinguish the investigations that have already produced dozens of indictments and some guilty pleas. Tell me you are not now trying to say the GOP supports the investigations.
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
Myth Buster
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Date: July 18, 2018 10:50AM
Godd Bless America Wrote:
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> lol you brag about the 'witch hunt' filing charges
> due to criminal acts - as if this is some kind of
> virtue rather than the law of the land. BTW that
> is the Justice Department while every political
> GOP operative (except a few leaving) are fighting
> to shut down all investigations into Russia/Trump
> while re-opening investigations into Hillary.
>
> Surely you are not pretending to hold a position
> that the Congress or President are doing anything
> other than trying to extinguish the investigations
> that have already produced dozens of indictments
> and some guilty pleas. Tell me you are not now
> trying to say the GOP supports the investigations.
lol. You're completely overcome with blind hysterics. Not every Russian in the USA is connected to the Russian collusion investigation. Nor is every indictment or investigation of a Russian that is here.
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> lol you brag about the 'witch hunt' filing charges
> due to criminal acts - as if this is some kind of
> virtue rather than the law of the land. BTW that
> is the Justice Department while every political
> GOP operative (except a few leaving) are fighting
> to shut down all investigations into Russia/Trump
> while re-opening investigations into Hillary.
>
> Surely you are not pretending to hold a position
> that the Congress or President are doing anything
> other than trying to extinguish the investigations
> that have already produced dozens of indictments
> and some guilty pleas. Tell me you are not now
> trying to say the GOP supports the investigations.
lol. You're completely overcome with blind hysterics. Not every Russian in the USA is connected to the Russian collusion investigation. Nor is every indictment or investigation of a Russian that is here.
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
discussion
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Date: July 18, 2018 02:31PM
Myth Buster Wrote:
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> Godd Bless America Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > lol you brag about the 'witch hunt' filing
> charges
> > due to criminal acts - as if this is some kind
> of
> > virtue rather than the law of the land. BTW
> that
> > is the Justice Department while every political
> > GOP operative (except a few leaving) are
> fighting
> > to shut down all investigations into
> Russia/Trump
> > while re-opening investigations into Hillary.
> >
> > Surely you are not pretending to hold a
> position
> > that the Congress or President are doing
> anything
> > other than trying to extinguish the
> investigations
> > that have already produced dozens of
> indictments
> > and some guilty pleas. Tell me you are not now
> > trying to say the GOP supports the
> investigations.
>
>
> lol. You're completely overcome with blind
> hysterics. Not every Russian in the USA is
> connected to the Russian collusion investigation.
> Nor is every indictment or investigation of a
> Russian that is here.
no but Maria Butina is connected. Why deflect with generalizations?
“The filing of this latest complaint is just further evidence of how far-reaching and carefully planned Russia’s assault on American democracy has been,” said a former U.S. official with knowledge of the Russia investigation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing probe. “To anyone who doubts that the Russian counterintelligence threat is real, this complaint should be further proof that it’s a threat that is live, real and urgent for the country to grapple with.”
interesting you consider discussion 'hysterics' - Im sure if I told you about kid porn at Comet Pizza you would consider it sober realism from a calm broker of truth.
Trumptards - ugh.
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> Godd Bless America Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > lol you brag about the 'witch hunt' filing
> charges
> > due to criminal acts - as if this is some kind
> of
> > virtue rather than the law of the land. BTW
> that
> > is the Justice Department while every political
> > GOP operative (except a few leaving) are
> fighting
> > to shut down all investigations into
> Russia/Trump
> > while re-opening investigations into Hillary.
> >
> > Surely you are not pretending to hold a
> position
> > that the Congress or President are doing
> anything
> > other than trying to extinguish the
> investigations
> > that have already produced dozens of
> indictments
> > and some guilty pleas. Tell me you are not now
> > trying to say the GOP supports the
> investigations.
>
>
> lol. You're completely overcome with blind
> hysterics. Not every Russian in the USA is
> connected to the Russian collusion investigation.
> Nor is every indictment or investigation of a
> Russian that is here.
no but Maria Butina is connected. Why deflect with generalizations?
“The filing of this latest complaint is just further evidence of how far-reaching and carefully planned Russia’s assault on American democracy has been,” said a former U.S. official with knowledge of the Russia investigation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing probe. “To anyone who doubts that the Russian counterintelligence threat is real, this complaint should be further proof that it’s a threat that is live, real and urgent for the country to grapple with.”
interesting you consider discussion 'hysterics' - Im sure if I told you about kid porn at Comet Pizza you would consider it sober realism from a calm broker of truth.
Trumptards - ugh.
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
66F3T
()
Date: July 18, 2018 03:00PM
discussion Wrote:
> Trumptards - ugh.
According to your own news headline, the title of this thread,
"Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.",
she is NOT connected to the Trump organization, nor anything to do with the
NRA (other than being a member and a gun-rights activist in her own country).
So, nothing to do with Russian election meddling, Trump,
nor the crazy Russia-Trump-NRA conspiracy theory.
Just a Russian chick who may or may not have been some kind of
Russian asset in other matters -- although there is no evidence
of her being involved in anything else specific, either.
She's just being brought up because the DOJ wants to fan the
Russia hyseria flames. Because as far as the investigation goes,
they got nothing.
My personal analysis: Slightly crazed young Russian chick is a gun-loving
activist who started her own version of the NRA in Russia, and traveled
to the USA for that reason. Russian agents eventually approach her and
make friendly threats unless she does some spying for them.
She uses her existing contacts to ... well, didn't actually do anything
because her social network is not very useful for any Russian spy stuff.
But Russia allows her to continue with her silly gun activism,
because she is at least somewhat willing to perform for them,
and you never know when she'll get connected to someone useful.
But so far, not useful.
Because, for example, no "Trump-Russia-NRA-election" conspiracy exists.
Except in the minds of crazies.
Well, actually she is doing something useful for the motherland.
She is suddenly "discovered" by the DOJ and used as a pretend agent
to add to the chaos of the investigation. The investigation damages
Trump and damages the USA, therefore it is in Russia's interest to
keep it going as long as possible. Even though there is nothing there.
Russia == Epic Trollmasters
Libtards totally falling for it.
> Trumptards - ugh.
According to your own news headline, the title of this thread,
"Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.",
she is NOT connected to the Trump organization, nor anything to do with the
NRA (other than being a member and a gun-rights activist in her own country).
So, nothing to do with Russian election meddling, Trump,
nor the crazy Russia-Trump-NRA conspiracy theory.
Just a Russian chick who may or may not have been some kind of
Russian asset in other matters -- although there is no evidence
of her being involved in anything else specific, either.
She's just being brought up because the DOJ wants to fan the
Russia hyseria flames. Because as far as the investigation goes,
they got nothing.
My personal analysis: Slightly crazed young Russian chick is a gun-loving
activist who started her own version of the NRA in Russia, and traveled
to the USA for that reason. Russian agents eventually approach her and
make friendly threats unless she does some spying for them.
She uses her existing contacts to ... well, didn't actually do anything
because her social network is not very useful for any Russian spy stuff.
But Russia allows her to continue with her silly gun activism,
because she is at least somewhat willing to perform for them,
and you never know when she'll get connected to someone useful.
But so far, not useful.
Because, for example, no "Trump-Russia-NRA-election" conspiracy exists.
Except in the minds of crazies.
Well, actually she is doing something useful for the motherland.
She is suddenly "discovered" by the DOJ and used as a pretend agent
to add to the chaos of the investigation. The investigation damages
Trump and damages the USA, therefore it is in Russia's interest to
keep it going as long as possible. Even though there is nothing there.
Russia == Epic Trollmasters
Libtards totally falling for it.
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
Orange Ass Clown!
()
Date: July 18, 2018 03:23PM
Prosecutors Say Accused Russian Agent Maria Butina Has Ties To Russian Intelligence- FSB (new KGB).
"The defendant is a foreign agent who loyally acted on behalf of the Russian government. Based on the nature of the charges and the weight of the proffered evidence against the defendant, no condition or combination of conditions will reasonably assure the appearance of the defendant at trial," prosecutors wrote.
Best part--
Although Butina had a personal relationship with an unidentified US citizen, prosecutors say she saw that as part of her work and had complained about living with that person; she allegedly offered another person sex "in exchange for a position within a special interest organization,"
.
"The defendant is a foreign agent who loyally acted on behalf of the Russian government. Based on the nature of the charges and the weight of the proffered evidence against the defendant, no condition or combination of conditions will reasonably assure the appearance of the defendant at trial," prosecutors wrote.
Best part--
Although Butina had a personal relationship with an unidentified US citizen, prosecutors say she saw that as part of her work and had complained about living with that person; she allegedly offered another person sex "in exchange for a position within a special interest organization,"
.
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
look it up
()
Date: July 18, 2018 03:35PM
66F3T Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> discussion Wrote:
> > Trumptards - ugh.
>
> According to your own news headline, the title of
> this thread,
> "Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was
> a Cover, Prosecutors Say.",
> she is NOT connected to the Trump organization,
> nor anything to do with the
> NRA (other than being a member and a gun-rights
> activist in her own country).
>
> So, nothing to do with Russian election meddling,
> Trump,
> nor the crazy Russia-Trump-NRA conspiracy theory.
>
> Just a Russian chick who may or may not have been
> some kind of
> Russian asset in other matters -- although there
> is no evidence
> of her being involved in anything else specific,
> either.
>
> She's just being brought up because the DOJ wants
> to fan the
> Russia hyseria flames. Because as far as the
> investigation goes,
> they got nothing.
>
> My personal analysis: Slightly crazed young
> Russian chick is a gun-loving
> activist who started her own version of the NRA in
> Russia, and traveled
> to the USA for that reason. Russian agents
> eventually approach her and
> make friendly threats unless she does some spying
> for them.
> She uses her existing contacts to ... well, didn't
> actually do anything
> because her social network is not very useful for
> any Russian spy stuff.
> But Russia allows her to continue with her silly
> gun activism,
> because she is at least somewhat willing to
> perform for them,
> and you never know when she'll get connected to
> someone useful.
>
> But so far, not useful.
> Because, for example, no
> "Trump-Russia-NRA-election" conspiracy exists.
> Except in the minds of crazies.
>
> Well, actually she is doing something useful for
> the motherland.
> She is suddenly "discovered" by the DOJ and used
> as a pretend agent
> to add to the chaos of the investigation. The
> investigation damages
> Trump and damages the USA, therefore it is in
> Russia's interest to
> keep it going as long as possible. Even though
> there is nothing there.
>
> Russia == Epic Trollmasters
>
> Libtards totally falling for it.
You are not paying attention - intel said they have been watching her for awhile. They didnt, as you falsely put it 'just discover her.' The reason for the apprehension was evidence showing she was an immediate flight risk. Why not be more careful about verifying your opinions?
-------------------------------------------------------
> discussion Wrote:
> > Trumptards - ugh.
>
> According to your own news headline, the title of
> this thread,
> "Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was
> a Cover, Prosecutors Say.",
> she is NOT connected to the Trump organization,
> nor anything to do with the
> NRA (other than being a member and a gun-rights
> activist in her own country).
>
> So, nothing to do with Russian election meddling,
> Trump,
> nor the crazy Russia-Trump-NRA conspiracy theory.
>
> Just a Russian chick who may or may not have been
> some kind of
> Russian asset in other matters -- although there
> is no evidence
> of her being involved in anything else specific,
> either.
>
> She's just being brought up because the DOJ wants
> to fan the
> Russia hyseria flames. Because as far as the
> investigation goes,
> they got nothing.
>
> My personal analysis: Slightly crazed young
> Russian chick is a gun-loving
> activist who started her own version of the NRA in
> Russia, and traveled
> to the USA for that reason. Russian agents
> eventually approach her and
> make friendly threats unless she does some spying
> for them.
> She uses her existing contacts to ... well, didn't
> actually do anything
> because her social network is not very useful for
> any Russian spy stuff.
> But Russia allows her to continue with her silly
> gun activism,
> because she is at least somewhat willing to
> perform for them,
> and you never know when she'll get connected to
> someone useful.
>
> But so far, not useful.
> Because, for example, no
> "Trump-Russia-NRA-election" conspiracy exists.
> Except in the minds of crazies.
>
> Well, actually she is doing something useful for
> the motherland.
> She is suddenly "discovered" by the DOJ and used
> as a pretend agent
> to add to the chaos of the investigation. The
> investigation damages
> Trump and damages the USA, therefore it is in
> Russia's interest to
> keep it going as long as possible. Even though
> there is nothing there.
>
> Russia == Epic Trollmasters
>
> Libtards totally falling for it.
You are not paying attention - intel said they have been watching her for awhile. They didnt, as you falsely put it 'just discover her.' The reason for the apprehension was evidence showing she was an immediate flight risk. Why not be more careful about verifying your opinions?
Re: Maria Butina Loved Guns, Trump and Russia. It Was a Cover, Prosecutors Say.
Posted by:
DXJKC
()
Date: July 18, 2018 03:45PM
look it up Wrote:
> You are not paying attention
As I explained in detail, you're the one who is not paying attention.
You are so utterly being trolled by the Russkies, it's hilarious!
Read my lips: "Nothingburger"
> You are not paying attention
As I explained in detail, you're the one who is not paying attention.
You are so utterly being trolled by the Russkies, it's hilarious!
Read my lips: "Nothingburger"