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Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Failedsociety ()
Date: January 19, 2018 03:18PM

America the great is gone, the globalist have won. Enjoy your ration of rice and free medical.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Bug out pack ()
Date: January 19, 2018 03:23PM

OP do you have your survival plan intact?

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: BLYFJ ()
Date: January 19, 2018 03:49PM

Here's an actual indisputable fact.

The Republicans have control of the Executive and Legislative branches.
This would be the first government shutdown when a single party had this much control.

They could avoid shutting down the the government if they really wanted to.

Republicans are playing politics. It has very little to do with 'globalist'.

Go to any independent news source (like BBC) and check for yourself.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: By Giving in to Democrats ()
Date: January 19, 2018 04:06PM

>they could avoid shutting down the the government if they really wanted to.


BY being blackmailed by the Democrat minority into providing US benefits to foreign nationals who entered the US illegally. And that's a 100% indisputable fact that you cant BS out of

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: The Indisputable Fact ()
Date: January 19, 2018 04:14PM

BLYFJ Wrote:
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> They could avoid shutting down the the
> government if they really wanted to.
>
> Republicans are playing politics.

Dude, you are a moron. The democrats could also avoid the shutdown if they really wanted to. They don't. They have said that if there's not DACA fix in the continuing resolution, they'll shut down the government. Schumer said that. Not one republican has said they are willing to shut down the government this time. Only democrats.

GOP has put forth a CR that also provides a 6 year fix for CHIP. The democrats still won't vote for it. There is nothing in the CR the democrats don't want, but they still won't vote for it because they are more concerned with helping citizens from other countries than helping America. Who's playing politics?

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: FVEPP ()
Date: January 19, 2018 04:24PM

The Indisputable Fact Wrote:
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> BLYFJ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They could avoid shutting down the the
> > government if they really wanted to.
> >
> > Republicans are playing politics.
>
> Dude, you are a moron. The democrats could also
> avoid the shutdown if they really wanted to. They
> don't. They have said that if there's not DACA
> fix in the continuing resolution, they'll shut
> down the government. Schumer said that. Not one
> republican has said they are willing to shut down
> the government this time. Only democrats.
>
> GOP has put forth a CR that also provides a 6 year
> fix for CHIP. The democrats still won't vote for
> it. There is nothing in the CR the democrats
> don't want, but they still won't vote for it
> because they are more concerned with helping
> citizens from other countries than helping
> America. Who's playing politics?

Fine, I'm a moron.
Then answer this smart guy ...

If McConnell had 50 votes, and a shut down could be attributed directly to a Democratic filibuster, wouldn’t they just make a big show of that, rather than shuttling Schumer down to the White House to talk with Trump?

The House GOP passed a bill they knew couldn't get through the Senate and left town for the weekend.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: T7XKW ()
Date: January 19, 2018 04:26PM

By Giving in to Democrats Wrote:
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> >they could avoid shutting down the the government
> if they really wanted to.
>
>
> BY being blackmailed by the Democrat minority into
> providing US benefits to foreign nationals who
> entered the US illegally. And that's a 100%
> indisputable fact that you cant BS out of

Senate GOP doesn't even enough votes among themselves to get it passed.
If they did, where's the Democratic filibuster?

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Dems try to cover up memogate ()
Date: January 19, 2018 04:39PM

FVEPP Wrote:
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> The Indisputable Fact Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BLYFJ Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > They could avoid shutting down the the
> > > government if they really wanted to.
> > >
> > > Republicans are playing politics.
> >
> > Dude, you are a moron. The democrats could
> also
> > avoid the shutdown if they really wanted to.
> They
> > don't. They have said that if there's not DACA
> > fix in the continuing resolution, they'll shut
> > down the government. Schumer said that. Not
> one
> > republican has said they are willing to shut
> down
> > the government this time. Only democrats.
> >
> > GOP has put forth a CR that also provides a 6
> year
> > fix for CHIP. The democrats still won't vote
> for
> > it. There is nothing in the CR the democrats
> > don't want, but they still won't vote for it
> > because they are more concerned with helping
> > citizens from other countries than helping
> > America. Who's playing politics?
>
> Fine, I'm a moron.
> Then answer this smart guy ...
>
> If McConnell had 50 votes, and a shut down could
> be attributed directly to a Democratic filibuster,
> wouldn’t they just make a big show of that,
> rather than shuttling Schumer down to the White
> House to talk with Trump?
>
> The House GOP passed a bill they knew couldn't get
> through the Senate and left town for the weekend.


The House CR bill was nothing but a 4 week extension at current funding levels and a 6 year fix for CHIP. Why the hell wouldn't the democrats vote for that?

Trump is trying to keep the government from shutting down. That is why he had Schumer come down to talk. They are friends and Trump was trying to get Schumer to back off and take care of DACA in another bill.

And if there is a shutdown, you can bet that Trump will be making a big deal out of it and blaming the democrats. Rightfully so. This is like when congress passed a CR that killed the Obamacare mandate (finally killed last month with the new tax bill). Obama vetoed it, just as he said he would. Was that Obama's fault? No. Congress knew he would and sent it to him anyway.

Are you an adult because I feel I'm having to school you on some basics here.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: DJjKT ()
Date: January 19, 2018 05:12PM

Lol! School me on basics!!!

Schumer and Trump aren’t friends.
He’s not doing anything out of altruism.

Try again. GOP doesn’t have the votes.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Thanks Paco! ()
Date: January 19, 2018 05:17PM

It's very simple: To pass a budget, the Senate needs 60 votes, and the Democrats refuse to do it unless we grant amnesty to another million or so illegal aliens. What do illegal aliens have to do with funding the government? The Dem talking points on this aren't just weak, they're a complete fantasy; it's as if they are hopping up and down, declaring the sky is yellow, not blue. This is what happens when your entire world view is based on subjective opinion, not objective, empirical facts.

Americans simply do not support an endless, open-door policy for wage-depressing, social-service-straining, neighborhood-ruining, uneducated illegals from South and Central America. You'd think that after losing to one of the most flawed candidates in American political history, Democrats would have learned this lesson, but nope - they just doubled down. I really thought the Republicans were going to get schlonged in November, but never underestimate the insane progressive agenda's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: You are fucking stupid ()
Date: January 19, 2018 05:38PM

BLYFJ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here's an actual indisputable fact.
>
> The Republicans have control of the Executive and
> Legislative branches.
> This would be the first government shutdown when a
> single party had this much control.
>
> They could avoid shutting down the the
> government if they really wanted to.
>
> Republicans are playing politics. It has very
> little to do with 'globalist'.
>
> Go to any independent news source (like BBC) and
> check for yourself.

Republicans need 60 votes in the Senate and only have 51.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: BBYT3 ()
Date: January 19, 2018 05:51PM

You are fucking stupid Wrote:
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> BLYFJ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here's an actual indisputable fact.
> >
> > The Republicans have control of the Executive
> and
> > Legislative branches.
> > This would be the first government shutdown when
> a
> > single party had this much control.
> >
> > They could avoid shutting down the the
> > government if they really wanted to.
> >
> > Republicans are playing politics. It has very
> > little to do with 'globalist'.
> >
> > Go to any independent news source (like BBC)
> and
> > check for yourself.
>
> Republicans need 60 votes in the Senate and only
> have 51.

They don’t even have 50.
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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: 9UDMM ()
Date: January 19, 2018 06:09PM

You are fucking stupid Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> BLYFJ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Here's an actual indisputable fact.
> >
> > The Republicans have control of the Executive
> and
> > Legislative branches.
> > This would be the first government shutdown when
> a
> > single party had this much control.
> >
> > They could avoid shutting down the the
> > government if they really wanted to.
> >
> > Republicans are playing politics. It has very
> > little to do with 'globalist'.
> >
> > Go to any independent news source (like BBC)
> and
> > check for yourself.
>
> Republicans need 60 votes in the Senate and only
> have 51.

They only need 51 votes to pass it or trigger a filibuster.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Talking points ()
Date: January 19, 2018 06:22PM

Slim majorities do not equal "control", but that's what all the DNC emails told subscribers to say. Veto- and filibuster- proof majorities mean control.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Resist#. ()
Date: January 19, 2018 06:24PM

Government shutting down you say? Let it burn...let it ALL burn. Time for a change.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: And... ()
Date: January 19, 2018 07:54PM

Talking points Wrote:
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> Slim majorities do not equal "control", but that's
> what all the DNC emails told subscribers to say.
> Veto- and filibuster- proof majorities mean
> control.


They count on their supporters being as dumb as the OP to believe their bullshit talking points.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: NEPXB ()
Date: January 20, 2018 12:13AM

And... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Talking points Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Slim majorities do not equal "control", but
> that's
> > what all the DNC emails told subscribers to
> say.
> > Veto- and filibuster- proof majorities mean
> > control.
>
>
> They count on their supporters being as dumb as
> the OP to believe their bullshit talking points.

If every member of the GOP senate supported it, it would pass.
Even Fox News admits it.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/18/hey-republicans-if-want-to-avoid-government-shutdown-its-time-to-go-it-alone-without-democrats.html

It’s not a talking point, it’s a fact.
How did the tax bill get passed?

They don’t have the votes within their own party to even get to filibuster.
The House passed a shit sandwich over to the Senate and took off for the weekend.
Blaming Schumer and Dems is laughable.

Trump has said himself a shutdown would be good.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politics/donald-trump-shutdown-tweet/index.html

OMB director Mulvaney said “it’s kinda cool” he gets to shutdown the government.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/shutdown-looms-as-senate-democrats-dig-in-against-gop-spending-plan/2018/01/19/f4370868-fccd-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html

You voted for these idiots. Face it, they suck.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: #SchumerShutdown ()
Date: January 20, 2018 12:21AM

NEPXB Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> And... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Talking points Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Slim majorities do not equal "control", but
> > that's
> > > what all the DNC emails told subscribers to
> > say.
> > > Veto- and filibuster- proof majorities mean
> > > control.
> >
> >
> > They count on their supporters being as dumb as
> > the OP to believe their bullshit talking
> points.
>
> If every member of the GOP senate supported it, it
> would pass.
> Even Fox News admits it.
> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/18/hey-repu
> blicans-if-want-to-avoid-government-shutdown-its-t
> ime-to-go-it-alone-without-democrats.html


False. That's an opinion piece talking about the House stupid.

The Dems filibustered the CR motion. It takes 60 to break the filibuster as Democrats continually complained about under Obama. Remember the "Obstructionist Republicans" talking point? Yeah, it's kinda like that.


> It’s not a talking point, it’s a fact.
> How did the tax bill get passed?


The tax bill was passed under reconciliation. Which only requires a majority. Which is why it had to be done that way with the various limitations that required in the way that the bill was structured and moved through. The CR can't be done in the same way.

Dems own it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/latest-trump-says-dems-want-weak-borders-124302901--finance.html

#SchumerShutdown

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: SherbetSundae ()
Date: January 20, 2018 12:59AM

#SchumerShutdown Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> NEPXB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > And... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Talking points Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Slim majorities do not equal "control", but
> > > that's
> > > > what all the DNC emails told subscribers to
> > > say.
> > > > Veto- and filibuster- proof majorities mean
> > > > control.
> > >
> > >
> > > They count on their supporters being as dumb
> as
> > > the OP to believe their bullshit talking
> > points.
> >
> > If every member of the GOP senate supported it,
> it
> > would pass.
> > Even Fox News admits it.
> >
> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/18/hey-repu
>
> >
> blicans-if-want-to-avoid-government-shutdown-its-t
>
> > ime-to-go-it-alone-without-democrats.html
>
>
> False. That's an opinion piece talking about the
> House stupid.
>
> The Dems filibustered the CR motion. It takes 60
> to break the filibuster as Democrats continually
> complained about under Obama. Remember the
> "Obstructionist Republicans" talking point? Yeah,
> it's kinda like that.
>
>
> > It’s not a talking point, it’s a fact.
> > How did the tax bill get passed?
>
>
> The tax bill was passed under
> reconciliation. Which only requires a
> majority. Which is why it had to be done that way
> with the various limitations that required in the
> way that the bill was structured and moved
> through. The CR can't be done in the same way.
>
> Dems own it.
>
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/latest-trump-says-d
> ems-want-weak-borders-124302901--finance.html
>
> #SchumerShutdown

Bwaah! This makes the GOP even more pathetic!
Yeah, I know about reconciliation, they can use it once a year.
I didn’t know they shot their wad on the 2018 reconciliation with taxes.

Not that it would’ve mattered, they couldn’t get to 50 votes with their own party.
#FailureFriday

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Cuck Schumer ()
Date: January 20, 2018 02:21AM

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: History Tells ()
Date: January 20, 2018 09:19AM

Democrats have a long history of putting the interests of illegals, thieves, rapists, killers, pedophiles, anarchists, and lazy leeches ahead of law-abiding, taxpaying Americans.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Just Two Words ()
Date: January 20, 2018 09:52AM

History Tells Wrote:
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> Democrats have a long history of putting the
> interests of illegals, thieves, rapists, killers,
> pedophiles, anarchists, and lazy leeches ahead of
> law-abiding, taxpaying Americans.


In other words, the Republican Party.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Bird Brained Parrot ()
Date: January 20, 2018 11:53AM

SherbetSundae Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> #SchumerShutdown Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NEPXB Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > And... Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Talking points Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Slim majorities do not equal "control",
> but
> > > > that's
> > > > > what all the DNC emails told subscribers
> to
> > > > say.
> > > > > Veto- and filibuster- proof majorities
> mean
> > > > > control.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They count on their supporters being as
> dumb
> > as
> > > > the OP to believe their bullshit talking
> > > points.
> > >
> > > If every member of the GOP senate supported
> it,
> > it
> > > would pass.
> > > Even Fox News admits it.
> > >
> >
> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/01/18/hey-repu
>
> >
> > >
> >
> blicans-if-want-to-avoid-government-shutdown-its-t
>
> >
> > > ime-to-go-it-alone-without-democrats.html
> >
> >
> > False. That's an opinion piece talking about
> the
> > House stupid.
> >
> > The Dems filibustered the CR motion. It takes
> 60
> > to break the filibuster as Democrats
> continually
> > complained about under Obama. Remember the
> > "Obstructionist Republicans" talking point?
> Yeah,
> > it's kinda like that.
> >
> >
> > > It’s not a talking point, it’s a fact.
> > > How did the tax bill get passed?
> >
> >
> > The tax bill was passed under
> > reconciliation. Which only requires a
> > majority. Which is why it had to be done that
> way
> > with the various limitations that required in
> the
> > way that the bill was structured and moved
> > through. The CR can't be done in the same way.
> >
> > Dems own it.
> >
> >
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/latest-trump-says-d
>
> > ems-want-weak-borders-124302901--finance.html
> >
> > #SchumerShutdown
>
> Bwaah! This makes the GOP even more pathetic!
> Yeah, I know about reconciliation, they can use it
> once a year.
> I didn’t know they shot their wad on the 2018
> reconciliation with taxes.
>
> Not that it would’ve mattered, they couldn’t
> get to 50 votes with their own party.
> #FailureFriday


No, it's not just used once a year stupid.

And the vote tally was 50-49.

Just admit that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about and move on you dumb parrot.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: 9th grade civics ()
Date: January 20, 2018 12:08PM

Reconciliation bills can be passed on spending, revenues, and the federal debt limit once per fiscal year per topic. Since 1990, the inclusion or addition of extraneous matters has been prohibited by the Byrd Rule.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Hill Insider ()
Date: January 20, 2018 12:14PM

My sources tell me that the GOP is going to add a small tax to the bill and then pass is through reconciliation.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: Interesting to note ()
Date: January 20, 2018 12:22PM

Reconciliation was peachy-keen with the GOP when Bush-43 used it to get his (ill-fated) Tax Cuts for the Rich passed. But it had somehow become a tool of Satan by the time Obama used it to pass PPACA. That's how much integrity Republicans have -- which is to say none at all.

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Re: Its crazy to think how fucked we are as a country when we are shutting down our government to appease citizens of other countries and deny service to our own. Just let the UN take us over we’re done
Posted by: 9th grade civics ()
Date: January 20, 2018 12:44PM

Hill Insider Wrote:
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> My sources tell me that the GOP is going to add a
> small tax to the bill and then pass is through
> reconciliation.

Your fake-sources seem not to understand the rules. Attempts to repeal and replace Obamacare and the recent tax cut legislation benefiting the super-rich and giant corporations have exhausted the availability of reconciliation until FY 2019.

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