LDBA - Lee District Basketball Association is supposed to be a community organization for neighborhood boys and girls interested in playing basketball. In recent years the girls division has been allowed to deteriorate to the point where it no longer exists. The board does not have daughters interested in playing so they could care less about that side of the program. I know of several AAU and high school coaches who offered to run clinics and help coach to encourage interest from girls in the community. All of those requests were either rejected our unanswered. Registration fees have increased over the last 2 years to compensate for the lack of girls fees. The person running the league as an adminstrator gets paid and so does her friend that does the referee scheduling. Enough background my question is where would you voice a complaint about this? The board will not listen and their lack of action has caused the girls league to fall apart. They are a nonprofit organization receiving county funds. Clearly this is a title 9 violation. Girls basketball across the county has improved and more and more are playing the sport. Why should the residents of the Franconia area have to go to Mount Vernon or Springfield to play when some of these people are getting paid to run LDBA into the ground. How do we get rid of them. I know people who will do it for free.

Start another league and volunteer your time. I have never heard of youth sports leagues paying adult administrators.

We used to play there but after it went to two age groups for girls 7-10 and 11&up we went to play for Cardinal AAU. It's a lot more expensive. They have 2 or 3 teams at every age group so at least my girls can play with their own age. I think the admin fee was something like $500 a month that she is paid year round.

CYA now has a well paid executive.

I was a referee for them but it took months after the season to get paid. It was ridiculous. After years of service the select commissioner stepped down. Don't know the full story on that one. Something over money. If you start a new league please pay the refs on time.

LDBA is a terrible league. It is very poorly administered and very secretive. Someone is making $$. The players have dropped to about 250 kids when 5 years ago there were close to 600, no girls leagues at all now. There is a reason the numbers keep decreasing. It should be reported to the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors; Jeff McKay is the rep for the Lee District area. Also, contact Fairfax County Parks and Recreation. In most places, youth sports organizations (YSOs) don't own their own facilities; they use taxpayer-funded fields, diamonds, tracks, pools, and courts instead. In order to use them they have to obtain permits. This makes them subject to public oversight by the permit-issuing authority, County of Fairfax.

http://www.momsteam.com/successful-parenting/missing-gate-receipts-reminder-need-oversight-youth-sports-organizations

Lee-Mount Vernon Sports Club (LMVSC) is up and coming with its basketball program, to compliment its solid reputation for soccer. LMVSC is in the process of wrapping up their 3rd basketball season. It offers a growing girls program, and travel/select teams at various ages for boys and girls. LMVSC also puts a cap on the registration fee for families with multiple players.

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> I was a referee for them but it took months after
> the season to get paid. It was ridiculous.
> After years of service the select commissioner
> stepped down. Don't know the full story on that
> one. Something over money. If you start a new
> league please pay the refs on time.

Word on the street has it the league commissioner of LDBA had some IRS trouble by pocketing some of the money and not claiming those monies on taxes.

It wasn't the commissioner, it was the league's administrator that supposedly had some IRS issues.

Why should the kids from the Lee District area have to go to Mount Vernon for basketball? I haven't heard that word on the street but if it's true why is she still there? I wonder if the rest of the board knows. Maybe taking this to the county supervisor is the best thing to do. I don't mind someone getting paid to run a league as long as it's known to everyone that part of your fee goes to that. If you charge $125 a player and $10 goes to the administrator that seems fair. But at LDBA all they did was raise the price of registration every year so the fee to the admin running the league could stay the same. And that's wrong. If they had 600 and now 250 every single one of them needs to be fired.

I work with LMVSC. We have no administrators, offcers, or employees of any type (absolutely none) who are paid based on a percentage of registrations or registration fees. Our administrator salaries have not been increased a penny in more than three years. I suspect you have good intentions and maybe some questions you would like to have answered, but the facts of your posting are just plain wrong (unless I am misundertanding you).

Feel free to contact me. I will be glad to talk with you, explain what ever might be bothering you, or meet with you and answer any questions you might have. I know all the people in the LMVSC administration. They are, to a person, fine people striving to do top rate work to keep soccer and basketball available for the kids who play on all the teams. There really are no hidden agendas.

Youth sports leagues should be run by non-paid volunteers. Did the assocation's 501(c)(3) application reflect that a league administrator would be paid?



Ben Willey Wrote:
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> I work with LMVSC. We have no administrators,
> offcers, or employees of any type (absolutely
> none) who are paid based on a percentage of
> registrations or registration fees. Our
> administrator salaries have not been increased a
> penny in more than three years. I suspect you have
> good intentions and maybe some questions you would
> like to have answered, but the facts of your
> posting are just plain wrong (unless I am
> misundertanding you).
>
> Feel free to contact me. I will be glad to talk
> with you, explain what ever might be bothering
> you, or meet with you and answer any questions you
> might have. I know all the people in the LMVSC
> administration. They are, to a person, fine
> people striving to do top rate work to keep soccer
> and basketball available for the kids who play on
> all the teams. There really are no hidden
> agendas.

Ben Willey Wrote:
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> I work with LMVSC. We have no administrators,
> offcers, or employees of any type (absolutely
> none) who are paid based on a percentage of
> registrations or registration fees. Our
> administrator salaries have not been increased a
> penny in more than three years. I suspect you have
> good intentions and maybe some questions you would
> like to have answered, but the facts of your
> posting are just plain wrong (unless I am
> misundertanding you).
>
> Feel free to contact me. I will be glad to talk
> with you, explain what ever might be bothering
> you, or meet with you and answer any questions you
> might have. I know all the people in the LMVSC
> administration. They are, to a person, fine
> people striving to do top rate work to keep soccer
> and basketball available for the kids who play on
> all the teams. There really are no hidden
> agendas.

This thread is about LDBA, not LMVSC. What is misleading about the previous post in regards to LDBA? Please state why LMVSC is the better alternative since you "work with" LMVSC.

I don't recommend having your son/daughter play there. There has been a history unreported income which is the reason for the drop in registered players. Parents have done there homework which I have to applaud. I unfortunately, paid a $158.00 registration fee to play there and then my son made another team and we asked for a refund (less than a week after I paid). I was charged $40.00 in admin fees. I think we made the best decision by not playing there.

I made the switch from LDBA to LMVSC an not only myself but my son couldnt be happier and the fact that they use the same facilities mostly makes it all the better, Make the switch...i dont kno about all the admin things you are speaking of and really dont care its about the quality of LMVSC

#LMVSC/VAB

I skipped making that switch. We left LDBA and went to cardinal basketball. Like a previous poster said why go to a soccer league. Cardinal cost about $100 more but great coaches and lots more games. But I would like it if the LDBA people just stepped down entirely. Not one person on the board has an athletic child if you can't teach your own kid how can you teach someone else's? Before the current regime tookover there were lots of athletes developed in that league. Now they just chase them off. How do you get someone to step down from a community league?

Mr. Wiley, since you said to contact you if we have any questions, I'd like to know why LDBA charges high school students $180 to register, more than any other league, and then notifies players that registration is closed even though the division will have only 3 teams, each with 7 players. That appears to mean that each team will have a bye every other week and will repeatedly play the same 2 teams for the entire season. That is very little play and very little competition for what-I-consider a very large fee!

Based on these circumstances I think a player should be able to withdraw from the league without having to pay a $40 admin fee. Do you agree?

2016 an nothing has changed except the price is. Ow $185. Keep your kids away from the league please.