I've been married 3 years and have known my wife for 6 years. Before we got married, I explained to my wife what my expectations would be for our sexual relationship after we got married. I enjoy sex much more frequently than she does and my stated expectation was a minimum 4 times per week. Overall, she has maintained this pace for the entire 6 years of our relationship, both before and after being married. I have not cheated on her and to the best of my knowledge she has not cheated on me and I have no reason to suspect her otherwise.

Then there was Saturday night...

So, Saturday night she rejected my offer of having sex which was then followed up in the morning by me catching her in the shower rubbing one out. When asked about it, she said she had "sexy dreams" and needed to "blow off some steam"...I was home all night in bed and we had no reason to leave the house on Sunday until 2pm. And I have never once in 6 years ever refused her offers of having sex nor have I engaged in masturbation myself in the time I've known her. Mutual masturbation is sometimes a part of our sexual menu.

I love her and...I've loved other women prior to meeting her. We have no kids and...I could always have kids with someone else. We have a nice house and...there are other houses. I'm really not looking forward to years of having to "check" on her to make sure she's not twirling the pearl behind my back when I am fully ready, willing and able to have sex at any given place and time. If you enjoy touching yourself more than someone else touching you then, I just don't see things are built for the long haul.

So, do I try to work this out...or should I just divorce my wife now?

Okay so here is reality as seen by someone married now 26 years to the same woman.

1. The amount of sex you have will never increase over time it only diminishes.
2. Wacking off is a survival skill - learn it (also I dont believe you dont jerkit)
3. Once you have kids your sex life will suffer greatly
4. You and or your wife will get fat and unattractive in the very near future.
5. The same rules will apply to any new wife. In fact you would be lucky to find a woman wanting to screw 4x per week for 6 years.
6. The most important question to ask yourself and communicate to your partner is 'what is it that you need' If you need to bang 4x a week forever tell her. She either will or wont (most likely wont). Good luck finding a woman who will fuck that much, I think you can find them in the unicorn aisle of your local hardware store...

Morton, do every other woman in this world a favor and go kill yourself...just prior, thank your wife for putting up with your selfish ridiculous ass for the 6 years she has. Your expectations are UNREAL and as WACKING off pointed out all subject to change...Your Wife is entitled to Pleasure herself, and every woman I have ever been with that understands how to get themselves Off have all been the Best sexually! Grow a Pair you Douche life is going to through you far greater issues to worry about than your wife rubbing one out!

Get out now.
Your disappointment will lead to resentment then disgust.
That's no way to spend the best years of your life.
It will only get worse with time.
It will only get more costly to end it over time.
One of you needs to move out. Now.

this comes across as maybe fake or trolling. it isn't wrong at all to break off a relationship that you feel is unsustainable, but an average person would characterize your demands as totally ridiculous. what your wife does by herself in her private time is her own business, it's hard to imagine how controlling and selfish a person would have to be to feel the way you do. it's possible you may never be happy with anybody, given how much control you seem to need. then again, there are probably people out there who would get off on extreme full-time submission.
if this is really how you feel i think you need to take stock of your situation and decide where your priorities lie. you're going to have to make a sacrifice one way or the other - either decide that your sex life takes priority and divorce, or decide that your relationship takes priority and stay. if you do end up divorcing, i would suggest broadening your playing field via the internet. you probably would have a better chance of finding a woman willing to subject herself to sexual slavery. even then, though, i wouldn't count on it. frankly you come across as a self-centered asshole and i think the pool of people willing to tolerate you is probably pretty small

You have to use reverse psychology on her. Act like you have been so busy that you forgot about sex. Women always over think and create drama in their heads. Just wait for all the self-induced BS that will come out of her mouth when she is trying to get you to tell her what is on your mind. Just be prepared to be accused of cheating on her. Enjoy!

I don't believe for a minute that op doesn't touch himself in the shower as well.
Poster named wacking off with 6 bullet points numbered sums this up perfectly.
If this isn't a fake troll post, op has some issues to work through. Haha the unicorn aisle! Love that analogy.

Morton,
1st things first, I would beat your ass for being a douchebag if I knew you. 2nd, your slut wife was jilling off thinking of how my cock was pounding her while you were at work.
3rd. Fuck off.

Your shit troll post should be in off topic asshole.

dungeon smash Wrote:
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> ...then again, there
> are probably people out there who would get off on
> extreme full-time submission.

Naa

Divorce her, now. It'll be costly, but in the end, worth it.


American females are trash. Pure trash. Find a foreign woman, but don't marry her. Just for sex.

Good for you for having the drive to fuck your wife 4 times per week. I fuck my wife a couple times per week and just rub it out to internet porn a couple more times.

Marriage is over rated and outdated. Just bang whoever you want and keep all of your income. Your welcome!

HAHA! She is going to get 1/2 of your shit!

mr.reality2 Wrote:
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> Marriage is over rated and outdated. Just bang
> whoever you want and keep all of your income. Your
> welcome!

Amen! I've been single all my life. Loving every minute of my sex life. Don't have to deal with driving kids around. If I want to go to the Bahamas for the weekend I go. I want to bang, I just text some BFF or their are plenty of Meetup groups. Hell I even bang some of my friends wives.

Money, I don't have to fork out $100,000 for kids to go to college.

I have no clue why people still get married in 2016.

You will die alone too

Her cooch is worn out because I am nailing her while you are at work...SUCKER!!! Though if you get divorced, I am dumping her ass in search of new and exciting squirrel.

I have been married for over 20 years. My wife takes great care of me in the bedroom! That being said i have walked away from plenty of chances to be with some fine women. There are times i think about some of those woman and think "damn it" what was i thinking getting tied down to just one?

Dude, she prefers her finger to your dick. Is her finger bigger?

Anyway, get over it and DO NOT get married again!

The biggest mistake a man can make is to get married. Divorce is heavily stacked against men. Whatever you do, never, never combine finances with a woman. Might as well build a bonfire and throw in everything you've ever worked for.

leave the basement troll Wrote:
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> You will die alone too

I prefer to die alone. Christ the last thing I need is some old hag annoying me every minute.

I have a nice house in Great Falls. I even have a nice pool and boat. It's amazing what one can afford when you don't have to pay for kids.

As a happily married man of 25+ years I would say learn to live with it. You will find as you go through life there are ebbs and flows in sexual desires by both parties depending on work, stress, kids, health, etc. To be blunt, you need to learn to take care of yourself a little bit if that is what it takes.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, does on occasion (I don’t believe for one minute you never do).

Learn to adapt to your circumstances and cut the wife some slack. When you hit your mid-50s and your testosterone levels plunge it might be you that isn’t wanting it 4X a week. Then what you gonna do?

Also, you are thinking about this too much. Anyone that is keeping track of their business that closely has a problem. Get some other hobbies and interests.

troll posted questions again?

Single Guy Life Wrote:
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> leave the basement troll Wrote:
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> > You will die alone too
>
> I prefer to die alone. Christ the last thing I
> need is some old hag annoying me every minute.
>
> I have a nice house in Great Falls. I even have a
> nice pool and boat. It's amazing what one can
> afford when you don't have to pay for kids.

You'll be leaving it all here, too. It'll all be trashed, sold off, or given to whoever you specified in your will. You won't be taking any of it with you. And what will others say about you then? "He had a nice pool and a boat."

Great legacy. Is that about it?

JBW Wrote:
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> Single Guy Life Wrote:
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> > leave the basement troll Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You will die alone too
> >
> > I prefer to die alone. Christ the last thing I
> > need is some old hag annoying me every minute.
> >
> > I have a nice house in Great Falls. I even have
> a
> > nice pool and boat. It's amazing what one can
> > afford when you don't have to pay for kids.
>
> You'll be leaving it all here, too. It'll all be
> trashed, sold off, or given to whoever you
> specified in your will. You won't be taking any
> of it with you. And what will others say about
> you then? "He had a nice pool and a boat."
>
> Great legacy. Is that about it?

My wealth will go to my living heirs. I have a brother and sister with kids. I'll divided my wealth between them.

As for legacy, I'll be in the history books for business and innovation, not he had a couple of kids. Nobody cares how many kids somebody had.

@Wacking Off:
1) So, I've got 15 years of sexual experience at this point and I've averaged 4 times per week consistently in that time. Some weeks it's twice per week, sometimes it's thirteen per week.
2) I have indeed learned to masturbate and used it frequently prior to being married when I was between partners.
3) Yes, I've heard that from many sources. But, I prefer to live in the present and currently, I have no children.
4) I ran cross-country in HS and college. Currently, I run 30 miles per week and I'm at the gym 6 days per week. I run 2 half-marathons annually. My wife was a rower in HS and college and now participates in triathlons.
5) The rules of a relationship are what they are. I've had several partners in my life who have kept or exceeded my sexual pace. The issue at hand is, my wife knew what she was marrying into and now, without so much as a courtesy review of our marriage, she has changed the rules. I would not have married her if when we discussed the long-term aspects of our marriage she had said, "I'm good for 2-3 times per week and a solo masturbation session..." It's her right and privilege to change the rules. I want her to live a life she's comfortable with. But, expecting me to stick around is...unreasonable. If anything it sends the message that nothing we ever agree to is binding to her.
6) I did tell her. I told her prior to agreeing to get married. Sexually hungry partners are no where near to as rare as you portray them to be...rather, I'm sorry your experiences have been so...limiting.

@RubbinInDubblin: She's entitled to pleasure herself anytime she wants. I'm entitled to leave anytime I want.

@YesDoItNow: The sarcasm is heavy upon your post...but taken un-sarcastically, it's nice to get some support.

@DungeonSmash: It's not as though I sprung my sexual expectations on my wife last week. Again, we discussed this and she agreed to it and now she wants to change the deal without further discussion. Again, totally her privilege but, I retain privileges, too.

@beendare: And what of my swollen, blue testicles?

@emuju: She won't get half my shit. She'll get half OUR shit. And we entered the marriage with about the same amount of shit so, no cause for concern there...

Your welcome!
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MortonInLorton Wrote:
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> 3) Yes, I've heard that from many sources. But, I
> prefer to live in the present and currently, I
> have no children.

Then I would say separate for a while, date other people. See how you like it and go from there.

I would say workout it out if you had kids, but sounds like you're free.

MortonInLorton Wrote:
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> @Wacking Off:
> 1) So, I've got 15 years of sexual experience at
> this point and I've averaged 4 times per week
> consistently in that time. Some weeks it's twice
> per week, sometimes it's thirteen per week.
> 2) I have indeed learned to masturbate and used it
> frequently prior to being married when I was
> between partners.
> 3) Yes, I've heard that from many sources. But, I
> prefer to live in the present and currently, I
> have no children.
> 4) I ran cross-country in HS and college.
> Currently, I run 30 miles per week and I'm at the
> gym 6 days per week. I run 2 half-marathons
> annually. My wife was a rower in HS and college
> and now participates in triathlons.
> 5) The rules of a relationship are what they are.
> I've had several partners in my life who have kept
> or exceeded my sexual pace. The issue at hand is,
> my wife knew what she was marrying into and now,
> without so much as a courtesy review of our
> marriage, she has changed the rules. I would not
> have married her if when we discussed the
> long-term aspects of our marriage she had said,
> "I'm good for 2-3 times per week and a solo
> masturbation session..." It's her right and
> privilege to change the rules. I want her to live
> a life she's comfortable with. But, expecting me
> to stick around is...unreasonable. If anything it
> sends the message that nothing we ever agree to is
> binding to her.
> 6) I did tell her. I told her prior to agreeing to
> get married. Sexually hungry partners are no where
> near to as rare as you portray them to
> be...rather, I'm sorry your experiences have been
> so...limiting.
>
> @RubbinInDubblin: She's entitled to pleasure
> herself anytime she wants. I'm entitled to leave
> anytime I want.
>
> @YesDoItNow: The sarcasm is heavy upon your
> post...but taken un-sarcastically, it's nice to
> get some support.
>
> @DungeonSmash: It's not as though I sprung my
> sexual expectations on my wife last week. Again,
> we discussed this and she agreed to it and now she
> wants to change the deal without further
> discussion. Again, totally her privilege but, I
> retain privileges, too.
>
> @beendare: And what of my swollen, blue
> testicles?
>
> @emuju: She won't get half my shit. She'll get
> half OUR shit. And we entered the marriage with
> about the same amount of shit so, no cause for
> concern there...

Seems like you have answered your own question (see bold above). I applaud your ability to identify your needs. I also am in awe of your sexual history! You have fucked 3,120 times in 15 years. Impressive! Moreover, you have access to multiple female partners up to the task.

If you think you can jump ship, find another fit-body new wife to have sex with 3,100 times over the next 15 years (where your current wife will only want to have sex 2,340 times over the next 15 years) it seems to me you are looking at a net loss of 780 fucks with your current wifey - that's 3.9 liters (avg. 5cc/ejaculation) of spooge buildup over time. Thats a lot of Big Gulps worth of jiz

>
> Seems like you have answered your own question
> (see bold above). I applaud your ability to
> identify your needs. I also am in awe of your
> sexual history! You have fucked 3,120 times in 15
> years. Impressive! Moreover, you have access to
> multiple female partners up to the task.
>
> If you think you can jump ship, find another
> fit-body new wife to have sex with 3,100 times
> over the next 15 years (where your current wife
> will only want to have sex 2,340 times over the
> next 15 years) it seems to me you are looking at a
> net loss of 780 fucks with your current wifey -
> that's 3.9 liters (avg. 5cc/ejaculation) of spooge
> buildup over time. Thats a lot of Big Gulps worth
> of jiz
>


Someone get this person to Silicon Valley!

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I'll do her.

Came for the discussion, throughly enjoyed the Big Gulp!
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Yo ho need ma soup bone bull stick. Iza make u ma white ass cuck. Wut yo adriss whitey?

anything that would stand in your way of starting a family is a distraction and a mistake. I'm not saying I would want to do that in this suburban hell. but as people, that is supposed to be the path to happiness.

Definite troll post

material world Wrote:
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> anything that would stand in your way of starting
> a family is a distraction and a mistake. I'm not
> saying I would want to do that in this suburban
> hell. but as people, that is supposed to be the
> path to happiness.

Of Christ! Are you still living the 1950's? It's 2016!

I will end this troll thread now.

If you have any "requirements" of your spouse/Gf etc...besides just being who they are, then you do not belong in any relationships.

This assumes the basics, not cheating, lying etc...

I am resuming the troll thread now, proceed with further discussion.

leave the basement troll Wrote:
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> You will die alone too


True. Beta male posting for sure. We alphas love having kids because it continues our superior genetic line. Betas hate having kids because, deep down inside, they know they are genetic duds and their DNA needs to be removed from the gene pool.

Beta males say the funniest stuf Wrote:
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> leave the basement troll Wrote:
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> > You will die alone too
>
>
> True. Beta male posting for sure. We alphas love
> having kids because it continues our superior
> genetic line. Betas hate having kids because,
> deep down inside, they know they are genetic duds
> and their DNA needs to be removed from the gene
> pool.

I don't give two shits about "passing on my DNA." Who cares. You fell for that old line. Sucks to be you.

Face it. You got suckered into having kids and now you have to live with. Enjoy your weekends shuttling your kids around to game and music lessons. You choose that not me. I'll be on a date or with groups at festivals, music concerts and sporting events having a beer.

Rugrats Wrote:
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> I don't give two shits about "passing on my DNA."
> Who cares. You fell for that old line. Sucks to
> be you.
>
> Face it. You got suckered into having kids and
> now you have to live with. Enjoy your weekends
> shuttling your kids around to game and music
> lessons. You choose that not me. I'll be on a
> date or with groups at festivals, music concerts
> and sporting events having a beer.


You don't give two shits because you're a beta male. Look at your quasi-homo posts. 'festivals, music concerts'. LOL

Alpha males love their kids more then themselves. Beta males love themselves more than anything.

The beta male shoe fits you like to a tee. Good news is that betas like you die and their dna dies with them. This makes the rest of us happy.

I don't care if I'm an alpha, beta, gamma, delta, theta whatever male. I don't live my life by labels or need a "white house with a picket fence, two kids and church on Sunday." I'm not trying to be the social norm or like everybody else.

Frankly I find kids annoying. I can deal with kids in small doses. I'd rather be doing things that make me happy, like traveling, adult events, winery or beer & baseball. I've been in long term relationships, dated women with kids. Trust me I can find plenty, plenty, plenty of divorced women with kids or women that want to have kids. No thank you!

Single Guy Fun Dating Wrote:
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> I don't care if I'm an alpha, beta, gamma, delta,
> theta whatever male. I don't live my life by
> labels or need a "white house with a picket fence,
> two kids and church on Sunday." I'm not trying to
> be the social norm or like everybody else.
>
> Frankly I find kids annoying. I can deal with
> kids in small doses. I'd rather be doing things
> that make me happy, like traveling, adult events,
> winery or beer & baseball. I've been in long term
> relationships, dated women with kids. Trust me I
> can find plenty, plenty, plenty of divorced women
> with kids or women that want to have kids. No
> thank you!


You're trying too hard to convince us. That's another sign of a beta male. We don't need to 'trust' you. You're not important to the world. I just pointed out the fact that you're a beta male. If you don't care, you sure have a funny way of showing it.

You MUST believe me!!!!!!! Wrote:
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> You're trying too hard to convince us. That's
> another sign of a beta male. We don't need to
> 'trust' you. You're not important to the world.
> I just pointed out the fact that you're a beta
> male. If you don't care, you sure have a funny
> way of showing it.
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FnuvT Wrote:
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> I will end this troll thread now.
>
> If you have any "requirements" of your spouse/Gf
> etc...besides just being who they are, then you do
> not belong in any relationships.
>
> This assumes the basics, not cheating, lying
> etc...

For what it's worth, the "pre-marital discussion" in which my wife and I verbally agreed upon the terms of our married life also included subjects like...finance, household responsibilities, real estate, home improvement, auto, insurance, work/career, travel, religion, hobbies, charity work and so on. It wasn't just me dictating terms of our sexual relationship and giving nothing in return. Frankly, the only thing I insisted upon beyond my sexual needs was the budget for my car. Everything else...she got what she wanted, and I was happy to help make that happen.

For instance, I wanted to buy 5 acres out in The Plains and have a house built from the ground up...total expenditure about $3.2M for land and structures. The wife, after doing a lot of homework, came up with some really great existing options and we agreed on a home in Great Falls for $1.8M. It's not 5 acres of solitude with everything hand selected by us but...that's an awful lot of money, time and aggravation saved.

A nice house in Great Falls... on second thought get divorced. You don't have kids.

There are loads of hot gold digger women who will drop their panties in a second for you.

You MUST believe me!!!!!!! Wrote:
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> Single Guy Fun Dating Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't care if I'm an alpha, beta, gamma,
> delta,
> > theta whatever male. I don't live my life by
> > labels or need a "white house with a picket
> fence,
> > two kids and church on Sunday." I'm not trying
> to
> > be the social norm or like everybody else.
> >
> > Frankly I find kids annoying. I can deal with
> > kids in small doses. I'd rather be doing things
> > that make me happy, like traveling, adult
> events,
> > winery or beer & baseball. I've been in long
> term
> > relationships, dated women with kids. Trust me
> I
> > can find plenty, plenty, plenty of divorced
> women
> > with kids or women that want to have kids. No
> > thank you!
>
>
> You're trying too hard to convince us. That's
> another sign of a beta male. We don't need to
> 'trust' you. You're not important to the world.
> I just pointed out the fact that you're a beta
> male. If you don't care, you sure have a funny
> way of showing it.

Why so upset? Some kid pee your mini-van on the way to soccer practice?

I will spend my last years at home being taken care of by my kids, grand kids and wife when I die, you will be getting your TV dinners served to you by an illegal immigrant and watching QVC in your room.

MortonInLorton Wrote:
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> FnuvT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will end this troll thread now.
> >
> > If you have any "requirements" of your
> spouse/Gf
> > etc...besides just being who they are, then you
> do
> > not belong in any relationships.
> >
> > This assumes the basics, not cheating, lying
> > etc...
>
> For what it's worth, the "pre-marital discussion"
> in which my wife and I verbally agreed upon the
> terms of our married life also included subjects
> like...finance, household responsibilities, real
> estate, home improvement, auto, insurance,
> work/career, travel, religion, hobbies, charity
> work and so on. It wasn't just me dictating terms
> of our sexual relationship and giving nothing in
> return. Frankly, the only thing I insisted upon
> beyond my sexual needs was the budget for my car.
> Everything else...she got what she wanted, and I
> was happy to help make that happen.
>
> For instance, I wanted to buy 5 acres out in The
> Plains and have a house built from the ground
> up...total expenditure about $3.2M for land and
> structures. The wife, after doing a lot of
> homework, came up with some really great existing
> options and we agreed on a home in Great Falls for
> $1.8M. It's not 5 acres of solitude with
> everything hand selected by us but...that's an
> awful lot of money, time and aggravation saved.


I was enjoying the fuck-festival fantasy now you are just sounding like a materialistic loser. The 50's is going to hit you very hard my friend. The reason you need to fuck so much is you have no idea how to experience love. All you have is money and fucking. Nothing wrong with those but they dont hold a candle to deep true love. I feel sorry for you really.

Find the next whore and jiz away in her body - its all you got and all you will ever have bro...

one phrase MGTOW!!!!!!!

Youre already fucked. Have fun with alimony.

QVC death at a nursing home Wrote:
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> I will spend my last years at home being taken
> care of by my kids, grand kids and wife when I
> die, you will be getting your TV dinners served to
> you by an illegal immigrant and watching QVC in
> your room.

Wake up. You live in a fantasy world. Do you think you're kids when they are 40 or 50 are going to wait on you when they have their own kids to take care of? You'll be lucky to have them drive you the doctor. That's if they are even in the same state.

Reality is your kids will put in an old folks home like everybody else. Some nurse will be looking after you.

You MUST believe me!!!!!!! Wrote:
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> Single Guy Fun Dating Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I don't care if I'm an alpha, beta, gamma,
> delta,
> > theta whatever male. I don't live my life by
> > labels or need a "white house with a picket
> fence,
> > two kids and church on Sunday." I'm not trying
> to
> > be the social norm or like everybody else.
> >
> > Frankly I find kids annoying. I can deal with
> > kids in small doses. I'd rather be doing things
> > that make me happy, like traveling, adult
> events,
> > winery or beer & baseball. I've been in long
> term
> > relationships, dated women with kids. Trust me
> I
> > can find plenty, plenty, plenty of divorced
> women
> > with kids or women that want to have kids. No
> > thank you!
>
>
> You're trying too hard to convince us. That's
> another sign of a beta male. We don't need to
> 'trust' you. You're not important to the world.
> I just pointed out the fact that you're a beta
> male. If you don't care, you sure have a funny
> way of showing it.


actually this is true, but not for the guy who chooses not to get married, this is very evident from the self proclaimed "alpha male"

reality is alpha males would never bother telling others that they are alphas, it is all by actions

so the obvious lying poster is the fake alpha

the supposed beta is just cruising along doing their thing with no worries, where the fake alpha has to PROVE their life is better

not alpha behavior

Txdvy Wrote:
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> You MUST believe me!!!!!!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Single Guy Fun Dating Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I don't care if I'm an alpha, beta, gamma,
> > delta,
> > > theta whatever male. I don't live my life by
> > > labels or need a "white house with a picket
> > fence,
> > > two kids and church on Sunday." I'm not
> trying
> > to
> > > be the social norm or like everybody else.
> > >
> > > Frankly I find kids annoying. I can deal
> with
> > > kids in small doses. I'd rather be doing
> things
> > > that make me happy, like traveling, adult
> > events,
> > > winery or beer & baseball. I've been in long
> > term
> > > relationships, dated women with kids. Trust
> me
> > I
> > > can find plenty, plenty, plenty of divorced
> > women
> > > with kids or women that want to have kids. No
> > > thank you!
> >
> >
> > You're trying too hard to convince us. That's
> > another sign of a beta male. We don't need to
> > 'trust' you. You're not important to the world.
>
> > I just pointed out the fact that you're a beta
> > male. If you don't care, you sure have a funny
> > way of showing it.
>
>
> actually this is true, but not for the guy who
> chooses not to get married, this is very evident
> from the self proclaimed "alpha male"
>
> reality is alpha males would never bother telling
> others that they are alphas, it is all by actions
>
> so the obvious lying poster is the fake alpha
>
> the supposed beta is just cruising along doing
> their thing with no worries, where the fake alpha
> has to PROVE their life is better
>
> not alpha behavior

Agreed. Life is too short, be happy. If you enjoy raising kids do that, if you like traveling and have freedom do that. If you are not happy with a relationship then get out of it.