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Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: need my package ()
Date: January 31, 2016 08:22AM

I received mail all week. I was expecting a package to be delivered Saturday (yesterday) and now the tracking information online says it wasn't delivered because my receptacle was not accessible. Did they not want to drive it up to the house? I still have a small amount of snow in my driveway (its a long one). What happened to "neither rain now snow"?

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Rain snow sleet death? Fuck you! ()
Date: January 31, 2016 08:25AM

Your package isn't worth someone's life you fucking asshole. Go shovel your driveway you fat soon.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: dirk diggler ()
Date: January 31, 2016 09:15AM

Bend over so your receptacle can accept the package

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Elvis ()
Date: January 31, 2016 09:40AM

It is another way of saying -"Return To Sender"

Say Bye Bye to your parcel.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Amazoptimus Prime ()
Date: January 31, 2016 09:51AM

Same thing happened to me Thursday even though I had everything clear, was home all day, and had gotten mail delivery the day before. There are lots of similar complaints on other boards too. I filled out the online redelivery request and got my package two days later. I don't know if the post office really had it or if it was Amazon's delivery contactor, but whoever it was lied about why they didn't deliver it the first time.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: need my package ()
Date: January 31, 2016 10:01AM

Rain snow sleet death? Fuck you! Wrote:
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> Your package isn't worth someone's life you
> fucking asshole. Go shovel your driveway you fat
> soon.

There are traces of snow and a little ice. Most of the driveway is completely clear. The USPS in this area had two days off of work. Is it too much to ask that they not be lazy. They could easily walk up the driveway if they watch where they put their feet. You can't even complain to them cause they would probably just make the rest of my mail disappear.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: January 31, 2016 11:01AM

Why did they outsource our postoffice. I don’t even know when it happened. One day our US Post Office was gone and a private company was running it. This has always seemed to me to be a violation of a traitorous nature. Like outsourcing the FBI. Why would we do that? Can we ever get it back?

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: 4VVmW ()
Date: January 31, 2016 11:25AM

causeican Wrote:
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> Why did they outsource our postoffice. I don’t
> even know when it happened. One day our US Post
> Office was gone and a private company was running
> it. This has always seemed to me to be a
> violation of a traitorous nature. Like
> outsourcing the FBI. Why would we do that? Can
> we ever get it back?

Most of those Koreans working at the Post Office have kids in med school or engineering grad school.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Ardinger clone ()
Date: January 31, 2016 12:30PM

need my package Wrote:
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> I received mail all week. I was expecting a
> package to be delivered Saturday (yesterday) and
> now the tracking information online says it wasn't
> delivered because my receptacle was not
> accessible. Did they not want to drive it up to
> the house? I still have a small amount of snow in
> my driveway (its a long one). What happened to
> "neither rain now snow"?
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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: but you know ()
Date: January 31, 2016 12:48PM

That if Fairfax wants something, like a tax payment or a Boosterthon pledge, they'll figure out a way to get it to you.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Lady ()
Date: January 31, 2016 02:54PM

They did this to me too. Lying liars. My drive and stoop are clear. I sent a nasty note and rescheduled. They delivered it this time.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: 9wjT9 ()
Date: January 31, 2016 06:09PM

OK, I have the direct inside scoop on what is going on.

Here is what happened, due to the weather the Post Masters (If you want to call them that, the clowns than manage each Post Office) wanted the carriers back in the parking lots by 3:00-3:30 pm on the Friday the 22nd.

So packages started to back up, the Post Office wants to keep the tracking info alive and update things. The PROBLEM is the genius contractors that wrote the software for the USPS package scanners NEVER put in an option for "Weather Related Delay."

So the Post Masters told ALL of the carriers for all packages that were not delivered the day of arrival at the Post Office to note that the "Receptacle Was Not Accessible". This may or may not have been true, HOWEVER, there is no other good explanation or option in the scanner, I have seen it.

So this pissed a lot of postal customers off because they were like, hey my mailbox or front door was not blocked.

Anyway, everyone NEEDS to be patient. I have things that have been delayed by UPS and they have the option to indicate "Weather Delay", but the USPS does not have this as an option.

Probably would cost a few hundred thousand dollars for some contractor to add 2 words on a drop down menu, then thousands of package scanners would need to be updated.

Good luck and hopefully you will get all mail and packages this week.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: need my package ()
Date: January 31, 2016 06:35PM

9wjT9 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> OK, I have the direct inside scoop on what is
> going on.
>
> Here is what happened, due to the weather the Post
> Masters (If you want to call them that, the clowns
> than manage each Post Office) wanted the carriers
> back in the parking lots by 3:00-3:30 pm on the
> Friday the 22nd.
>
> So packages started to back up, the Post Office
> wants to keep the tracking info alive and update
> things. The PROBLEM is the genius contractors that
> wrote the software for the USPS package scanners
> NEVER put in an option for "Weather Related
> Delay."
>
> So the Post Masters told ALL of the carriers for
> all packages that were not delivered the day of
> arrival at the Post Office to note that the
> "Receptacle Was Not Accessible". This may or may
> not have been true, HOWEVER, there is no other
> good explanation or option in the scanner, I have
> seen it.
>
> So this pissed a lot of postal customers off
> because they were like, hey my mailbox or front
> door was not blocked.
>
> Anyway, everyone NEEDS to be patient. I have
> things that have been delayed by UPS and they have
> the option to indicate "Weather Delay", but the
> USPS does not have this as an option.
>
> Probably would cost a few hundred thousand dollars
> for some contractor to add 2 words on a drop down
> menu, then thousands of package scanners would
> need to be updated.
>
> Good luck and hopefully you will get all mail and
> packages this week.

Thanks. The package was scheduled for delivery on Satuday, so hopefully it will arrive Monday.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: 9wjT9 ()
Date: January 31, 2016 06:58PM

I know Postal carriers differ per location, but mine is a really good person. Does the best they can given the weather and the new package volume.

Hopefully you will have your package tomorrow.

But I also became good friends with my carrier. Treat them nice, and my carriers hook me up. Does a lot of nice things for me and also knows everything going on the in the area.

So I take good care of my carrier and help them out when ever I can.

Kind of a 2 way street.

This is how I found out about the Receptacle Not Accessible issue. Lots of folks when non linear, I can see why, but the USPS is just trying to keep the tracking and package flow working. I think the issue is if the tracking is marked at "Receptacle Not Accessible" these packages stay in the cue for next delivery attempt??

Anyway the poor carriers have it bad since the USPS won the Amazon contract.

Many may not be aware, the USPS does not have a package manifest. This means the postal carriers do not have a list of packages and where they are supposed to be delivered!!!! All the other major carriers have package manifests.

I have seen the back of the delivery truck piled full of boxes on top of the letter trays. I have NO IDEA how the poor carriers know if they have a package for Mr. Smith or Ms. Jones other than by memory. If they miss a delivery, they either need to double back or most will just wait and attempt to deliver the next delivery day.

Not sure I or anyone here would want their job these days, 3-4 years ago it was much better, the packages are killing the standard carrier. The USPS needs to break out the packages to 1 person/truck that covers 3-4 carrier routes. I would be more efficient for everyone, but this is the USPS.

Thank your carrier, offer them something warm to drink and a box of dog biscuits.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: WSH Lax god ()
Date: January 31, 2016 07:30PM

Word is your receptacle is always accessible. I know mine is. Let's hook up!
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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: HjntN ()
Date: January 31, 2016 07:30PM

Mine was incorrect address. How did they know?

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: January 31, 2016 10:00PM

9wjT9 Wrote:
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> OK, I have the direct inside scoop on what is
> going on.


This makes sense. We had the same thing happen, only since I know and like our carrier, I didn't go all ballistic about it, just said "I think I heard something about some snow somewhere, maybe that was involved; I'll ask her tomorrow". Sure enough, the packages showed up the next day.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: USPS sux mang ()
Date: February 01, 2016 07:31AM

9wjT9 Wrote:
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> OK, I have the direct inside scoop on what is
> going on.
>
> Here is what happened, due to the weather the Post
> Masters (If you want to call them that, the clowns
> than manage each Post Office) wanted the carriers
> back in the parking lots by 3:00-3:30 pm on the
> Friday the 22nd.
>
> So packages started to back up, the Post Office
> wants to keep the tracking info alive and update
> things. The PROBLEM is the genius contractors that
> wrote the software for the USPS package scanners
> NEVER put in an option for "Weather Related
> Delay."
>
> So the Post Masters told ALL of the carriers for
> all packages that were not delivered the day of
> arrival at the Post Office to note that the
> "Receptacle Was Not Accessible". This may or may
> not have been true, HOWEVER, there is no other
> good explanation or option in the scanner, I have
> seen it.
>
> So this pissed a lot of postal customers off
> because they were like, hey my mailbox or front
> door was not blocked.
>
> Anyway, everyone NEEDS to be patient. I have
> things that have been delayed by UPS and they have
> the option to indicate "Weather Delay", but the
> USPS does not have this as an option.
>
> Probably would cost a few hundred thousand dollars
> for some contractor to add 2 words on a drop down
> menu, then thousands of package scanners would
> need to be updated.
>
> Good luck and hopefully you will get all mail and
> packages this week.

So this & your other post are great & all, but they don't explain fully why about 10% of my packages get marked "undeliverable as addressed" and I have to wait an extra day. And, miraculously, somehow, the package that was "undeliverable as addressed" on Monday makes its way to my doorstep on Tuesday without me or anyone else correcting any information.

If the problem is codes on the scanners they need to pay the money to update them.

I had several packages marked "receptacle not accessible" after taking a lot of time to shovel out my walkway and my mailbox. I was hyper-pissed to read that as the reason I didn't get mail ALL WEEK after the storm.

also maybe you or your USPS buddy can explain why it's usually the heavier packages that get marked "undeliverable"? Or why three out of four parcels will make it on a given day, and it's the bulkiest one that seems to be missed?

They used to try to make me come down there and pick them up myself until I had a few pointed words with the manager of my PO branch. But this shit still happens way too often.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: need my package ()
Date: February 01, 2016 06:42PM

need my package Wrote:
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> 9wjT9 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OK, I have the direct inside scoop on what is
> > going on.
> >
> > Here is what happened, due to the weather the
> Post
> > Masters (If you want to call them that, the
> clowns
> > than manage each Post Office) wanted the
> carriers
> > back in the parking lots by 3:00-3:30 pm on the
> > Friday the 22nd.
> >
> > So packages started to back up, the Post Office
> > wants to keep the tracking info alive and
> update
> > things. The PROBLEM is the genius contractors
> that
> > wrote the software for the USPS package
> scanners
> > NEVER put in an option for "Weather Related
> > Delay."
> >
> > So the Post Masters told ALL of the carriers
> for
> > all packages that were not delivered the day of
> > arrival at the Post Office to note that the
> > "Receptacle Was Not Accessible". This may or
> may
> > not have been true, HOWEVER, there is no other
> > good explanation or option in the scanner, I
> have
> > seen it.
> >
> > So this pissed a lot of postal customers off
> > because they were like, hey my mailbox or front
> > door was not blocked.
> >
> > Anyway, everyone NEEDS to be patient. I have
> > things that have been delayed by UPS and they
> have
> > the option to indicate "Weather Delay", but the
> > USPS does not have this as an option.
> >
> > Probably would cost a few hundred thousand
> dollars
> > for some contractor to add 2 words on a drop
> down
> > menu, then thousands of package scanners would
> > need to be updated.
> >
> > Good luck and hopefully you will get all mail
> and
> > packages this week.
>
> Thanks. The package was scheduled for delivery on
> Satuday, so hopefully it will arrive Monday.

Update: My package arrived today. Thanks.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: 9wjT9 ()
Date: February 01, 2016 07:09PM

USPS sux mang Wrote:
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> So this & your other post are great & all, but
> they don't explain fully why about 10% of my
> packages get marked "undeliverable as addressed"
> and I have to wait an extra day. And,
> miraculously, somehow, the package that was
> "undeliverable as addressed" on Monday makes its
> way to my doorstep on Tuesday without me or anyone
> else correcting any information.
>
> If the problem is codes on the scanners they need
> to pay the money to update them.
>
> I had several packages marked "receptacle not
> accessible" after taking a lot of time to shovel
> out my walkway and my mailbox. I was hyper-pissed
> to read that as the reason I didn't get mail ALL
> WEEK after the storm.
>
> also maybe you or your USPS buddy can explain why
> it's usually the heavier packages that get marked
> "undeliverable"? Or why three out of four parcels
> will make it on a given day, and it's the bulkiest
> one that seems to be missed?
>
> They used to try to make me come down there and
> pick them up myself until I had a few pointed
> words with the manager of my PO branch. But this
> shit still happens way too often.

I have no idea about your specific problems. It may be your specific carrier and/or you specific post office. Might also be the size of your packages.

If you have ever seen the small postal vehicles, there is not much room in the rear of the trucks. I have seen my carriers truck filled with mail and boxes from bottom to top, front to back with a bunch of stuff up front. Crazy how much the carriers need to deliver these days.

Not making excuses for them, but it is very different than a few years ago.

My carrier is a really hard working, decent person. I know many can barely speak English and do not appear to car. Anytime we have a substitute carrier, things are not good, slower and things often do not get delivered in a timely manner.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: 4htLp ()
Date: February 01, 2016 07:13PM

What hacks me off more than anything else is the wait for picking up a package. You bring them the slip with a tracking number. They disappear for 15 minutes. Do they just have a large pile of packages? They don't index the packages by a simple hash of the last couple digits?

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: NippleChuck ()
Date: February 01, 2016 07:43PM

OP expecting a package from Colorado and the PO is holding it until he comes personally to pick up. Then OP spends the next 6 years in federal prison keeping this guy warm at night. Enjoy your time away from work.

Nip
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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: VW67J ()
Date: February 02, 2016 12:28AM

4htLp Wrote:
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> What hacks me off more than anything else is the
> wait for picking up a package. You bring them the
> slip with a tracking number. They disappear for
> 15 minutes. Do they just have a large pile of
> packages? They don't index the packages by a
> simple hash of the last couple digits?


There is no shipping manifest for the USPS packages. Nothing that indicates what type or size of package, who it is for and where it originated. The Post Office and truck lack any decent shelves or way to store the packages. Most packages are stored in large rolling canvas tubs, large laundry type tubes. So this means someone may need to dig through hundreds of small packages to find just one, assuming it is not on the carriers truck out for delivery.

By no means an ideal situation, but it is what it is.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: uVuHk ()
Date: February 02, 2016 05:17AM

VW67J Wrote:
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> 4htLp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What hacks me off more than anything else is
> the
> > wait for picking up a package. You bring them
> the
> > slip with a tracking number. They disappear
> for
> > 15 minutes. Do they just have a large pile of
> > packages? They don't index the packages by a
> > simple hash of the last couple digits?
>
>
> There is no shipping manifest for the USPS
> packages. Nothing that indicates what type or size
> of package, who it is for and where it originated.
> The Post Office and truck lack any decent shelves
> or way to store the packages. Most packages are
> stored in large rolling canvas tubs, large laundry
> type tubes. So this means someone may need to dig
> through hundreds of small packages to find just
> one, assuming it is not on the carriers truck out
> for delivery.
>
> By no means an ideal situation, but it is what it
> is.

That is seriously insane if true. You might as well just make a big pile of boxes in the middle of the building. Even if packages don't get a "tracking number", you could still hash by the street address. Say the last two digits and divide by 4, rounding down. That's not ideal since there is more entropy in the lower bits but it would be better than the 'giant pile' method. Linear search. wow.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: VW67J ()
Date: February 02, 2016 11:23AM

> uVuHk Wrote:

>
> That is seriously insane if true. You might as
> well just make a big pile of boxes in the middle
> of the building. Even if packages don't get a
> "tracking number", you could still hash by the
> street address. Say the last two digits and
> divide by 4, rounding down. That's not ideal
> since there is more entropy in the lower bits but
> it would be better than the 'giant pile' method.
> Linear search. wow.

No shipping manifest, it is true. This is how it works. The carriers in my area sometimes have 150-450 packages a day. Sometimes they have to return for a 2nd pick up of packages unless they can beg/borrow/steal their way to get someone to meet them on the route to hand off more packages and even deliver some of them. There are a few small shelves that have been added in the back of the mail trucks, but they are FAR too small and hard to access. So everything gets piled in the back of the truck, usually on top of the pre-sorted mail trays. I have seen it to the roof on many occasions in the trucks. This is what happens with a bunch of stuffed shirts bid on an Amazon Account and do not think things all the way through from soup to nuts on how this will work.

One of the problems in my area is street addresses are reused many times on different streets.

So there my be 3-4 streets with the same house address number like 1234. You will see 1234 X Street, 1234 Y Street, 1234 Z Street. Additionally there are many 12XX addresses or hundred blocks. So this makes anything short of sorting by street not so fun.

Our route also has a mix of commercial and government facilities as well. My poor carrier actually has to deliver concrete samples to a facility for testing!

Until you walk a mile in their shoes or get an understanding of what these guys have to deal with, it is easy to complain. I am not defending the USPS as a whole, they need to really look closely at everything they do, but what they are putting many of the carriers through is just insane.

I really do have pitty on my carrier, and I am VERY thankful we have the carrier we do. For a while I questioned what was going on, but since I have take time to get to know our carrier, I have a FAR BETTER appreciation for what the carriers have to deal with. When substitutes take over for even a day things are BAD.

I am really surprised that "Going Postal" has really gone by the wayside and hope it does not resurface. I can fully understand the stress and frustration some of the carriers deal with.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Junky McJunkerson ()
Date: February 02, 2016 12:42PM

Whadaya know.....I actually received mail today. 3rd time since the blizzard and the 3rd time it was just junk mail. Still waiting for 5-6 tax forms that should've been delivered as far back as 1/25.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Jjn9P ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:24PM

W2 forms most 1099 are not due until the end of Feb for the 2015 tax year.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: February 02, 2016 02:07PM

W-2s are required to be sent to employees and filed with Virginia by January 31. They are not required to be filed with Social Security until February 28.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: jxnJE ()
Date: February 02, 2016 02:43PM


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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Junky McJunkerson ()
Date: February 02, 2016 03:54PM

Didn't say anything about DUE dates. I'm talking about the dates the USPS notified me that I would be receiving these tax forms.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Greybeard ()
Date: February 02, 2016 08:50PM

VW67J Wrote:
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> So there my be 3-4 streets with the same house
> address number like 1234. You will see 1234 X
> Street, 1234 Y Street, 1234 Z Street. Additionally
> there are many 12XX addresses or hundred blocks.
> So this makes anything short of sorting by street
> not so fun.


Yep. Note that there's a scheme to the numbering: there will only be one street address in Fairfax County with a given number and first four digits of the street name. So if there's a 1234 Peachtree, then there will not be a 1234 Peach Pit. This is a good scheme, except that as the county has grown, they also tend to pick similar numbers for an area (the further "out" you go, the higher the numbers, in general; I've never heard/been able to prove whether that's deliberate or just due to attempts to avoid collisions per the scheme--I suspect at least partly deliberate, as there are pretty distinctive street names whose numbering doesn't start at '1'). The smaller the street, the bigger the number, too: cul-de-sacs seem to mostly have 5-digit numbers, while bigger neighborhood streets have 4-digit numbers.

Our house number is 12345 (OK, it's not, but) and there's another 12345 right around the corner. A couple of times a year, we get each other's mail--and our postie isn't an idiot.

We also have the same last name as our next-door-neighbor, which is another problem! Fortunately that one's super-easy, we just violate Federal law and place the misdelivered mail in each other's mailboxes.

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Re: Post Office - my receptable wasn't accessible
Posted by: Mike O'Meara Show Fan ()
Date: February 02, 2016 10:08PM

That's not a violation of law. Don't be such a douche.

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