IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO PANHANDLE IN FAIRFAX COUNTY OR ANYWHERE ELSE. HOW CAN IT BE?! YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT, BUT IT IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH, EXPRESSION, ETC. PANHANDLING IS PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT!!! MANY JUDGES CITY STATE AND FEDERAL HAVE DECLARED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT BANNING PANHANDLING ARE ILLEGAL LAWS. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS A LAW DOESNT MAKE IT LEGAL!!! AND FURTHERMORE THERE IS NOT A PANHANDLING BAN IN FAIRFAX COUNTY!!! NEITHER THE STATE OF VIRGINA NOR FAIRFAX COUNTY HAVE A PANHANDLING BAN BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEVER GET THESE LAWS PASSED!!!! SO THEY ENFORCE IT LIKE IT IS A LAW, WHEN IT ISNT!!! (and you people who like to say "yes it is, look..." and then post a link to the ENTIRE CONTENTS OF VIRGINIA LAW, STOP!!! If you think it is a law, I would be very happy to see it in the form of the code, and the actual law. Fairfax county has ordinances on Peddling, Canvassing, and Soliciting, but that is NOT what panhanding IS. Peddling, Canvassing, and Soliciting are various ways of SOLICITING. The LEGAL definition of all three is "ATTEMPTING TO EXCHANGED GOOD (in the form of product or physical work) for MONEY. You see that? You have to OFFER something. SOLICITING DONATIONS on the other hand is just that. SOLICITING DONATIONS. And fairfax county has a ordinence on THAT but it boils down to YOU DO NOT NEED A LICENSE TO SOLICIT DONATIONS AS LONG AS ALL THE PROCEEDS (up to 5000 dollars per day) go to the named benificiary. PERIOD. Im sorry. But that is the law.

What's your point?

Just to reiderate for those who didnt like my rant...There is no law in fairfax county on the books that prohibits panhandling. There IS however a law that PROTECTS it though. You may solicit up to 5000 dollars in one day as DONATIONS as long as ALL PROCEEDS go to the named beneficiary.

Which corner do you work? Can you fit all of that on a sign?

Panhandling exemplifies leftist thought: I stand (and sometimes sit) and get paid, while you suckers actually work for a living.

Just remember this: if you give money to someone who just plain can't work, you're probably feeding his alcohol/drug addiction; if you give money to someone who can work but chooses not to, you're just a dumbass.

The last time (about 2 weeks ago) someone I didn't know told me he was hungry, I didn't give him money. I did offer to buy him lunch (which came to $11; my own lunch only came to $4).

Giving money to buskers, however, is okay.

Thanks for the update, Angel. I hear they can make more $$ then working. I may get me a sign. I could use some extra $$.

theangelmichael Wrote:
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> Just to reiderate for those who didnt like my
> rant...There is no law in fairfax county on the
> books that prohibits panhandling. There IS however
> a law that PROTECTS it though. You may solicit up
> to 5000 dollars in one day as DONATIONS as long as
> ALL PROCEEDS go to the named beneficiary.


This shit again. Its illegal. Now shut the hell up.

theangelmichael Wrote:
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> Just to reiderate for those who didnt like my
> rant...There is no law in fairfax county on the
> books that prohibits panhandling. There IS however
> a law that PROTECTS it though. You may solicit up
> to 5000 dollars in one day as DONATIONS as long as
> ALL PROCEEDS go to the named beneficiary.

On the other hand it is illegal to harass people and to disturb the peace.

what you don't understand

is laws in the book are not necessarily for every last case

if a person panhandles for a living, not just a hobby, they should be paying taxes: thus have to be registered. assuming they are making anything close to poverty line wages

if a person is selling something the county regulates to the public and not just infrequently, like food, the county needs to know they are doing it

pretty simple

your complaint is duly noted except

1) laws concerning door-to-door and city street-corners sales are very old

2) YOU HAVE NO COMPLAINT. you did not say you were stopped from selling anything.

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really if you sell infrequently and they bust you on a scoff: they owed you a warning and a chance to explain if infact you were not infringing (that the warning was incorrect).

no, they cannot inforce the law "unequally"

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MY COMPLAIN. fx co is allowing "bosses" in area to instruct managers to hire green cards and instruct employees to steal. this is not enforced equally.

the people are told "steal or your fired" or "everyone does is" and while the boss is raking it in the employee is safe. then, when the employee is more a liability and the next mexican will do as well, the employee is set up for an arrest, and the poorly witted employee has no way to indicate the employer as the cause.

LICENSE TO SOLICIT DONATIONS

1) there is no such thing i'd chase you down the street if you were selling such an instrument (license)

2) donations must be used as advertised (ex, on charity not on 700 club mansions) and anything over $xxxx / yr must be publicly posted.

3) 5000 dollars per day ? sounds criminal to me. definitely must be reported as income , ergo , the source of will be disclosed since IRS doesn't allow over $xxxx/yr "gift" without disclosure.

yea then every rich cock sucker would structure their end of life to gift the estates to their kids and never pay taxes while alive or afterward, infact

"a life of crime is not a limited action, the clock remains ticking"

The Code of Fairfax County
• Peddlers, Solicitors and Canvassers

Article 1. In General.
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Section 31-1-1. Definitions; exceptions.

Section 31-1-2. Prohibited acts.

Section 31-1-3. Information filed to become public records.2

Section 31-1-4. Penalties.3.


Section 31-1-1. Definitions; exceptions.

(a)
For the purposes of this Chapter, unless a different meaning is required by the context, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings respectively ascribed to them by this Section:

Canvasser means any person who engages in opinion-sampling, poll-taking or other similar activity from house to house, door to door, street to street, or from place to place, in person, for compensation, or who is directed or supervised by a person who is compensated.

Director means the Director of the Department of Consumer Affairs of Fairfax County or his agent or designee.

Commission means the Consumer Protection Commission of Fairfax County, Virginia.

County means the County of Fairfax, Virginia.

Itinerant merchant means any person who engages in, does, or transacts any temporary or transient business and who, for the purpose of carrying on such business, occupies any location for a period of less than one (1) year.

Peddle means to operate from a temporary stand, display or similar facility or to travel from house to house, door to door, street to street or from place to place, carrying, conveying, or transporting goods, wares, or merchandise for the purpose of offering and exposing the same for sale, whether or not responding to appointments by telephone, telegraph, correspondence or other means of communication; provided, that to solicit orders and as a separate transaction, make deliveries to purchasers as a part of the scheme or design to evade the provisions of this Section shall be deemed peddling.

Peddler means a person who peddles for himself or any other person.

Person means any individual, organization, trust, foundation, association, partnership, corporation, society or other group or combination acting as a unit.

Promoter means a person who sponsors an arts and crafts show where more than four (4) individual peddlers, itinerant merchants or solicitors offer arts and crafts goods for sale to the general public.

Sale, sell and sold mean the transfer of any property or the rendition of any service to any person in exchange for consideration, including any purported contribution without which such property would not have been transferred or such services would not have been rendered.

Solicit and solicitation mean to operate from a temporary stand, display or similar facility, or to travel from house to house, door to door, street to street, or from place to place taking or attempting to take orders for sale of goods, wares or merchandise, subscriptions, personal property of any nature whatsoever for future delivery, or for services to be furnished or performed in the future, whether or not responding to appointments prearranged by telephone, telegraph, correspondence or other means of communication. To hire, lease, use or occupy any building or structure, lodging house, apartment, shop or any other place within the County for the sole purpose of exhibiting samples and taking orders for future delivery.

Solicitor means a person who solicits for himself or any other person.

(b)
Exceptions.

The terms "canvasser," "peddler," or "solicitor" as used in this Chapter do not include:

Persons who as wholesalers or distributors solicit orders from or sell to retail dealers in the County or who sell goods or services to be used in manufacturing or other commercial purposes;

Persons selling, offering for sale, or soliciting orders for fresh farm food products, including but not limited to, vegetables and dairy products;

Persons selling, offering for sale, or soliciting orders for newspapers;

Persons licensed by the Commonwealth of Virginia pursuant to Title 38.2 (Insurance) of the Code of Virginia or pursuant to Chapter 21 of Title 54.1 (Professions and Occupations) of the Code of Virginia; or

Persons licensed by the County pursuant to Chapter 34 (Charitable Solicitations) of the County Code or exempt from such licensing for pertinent reasons set forth in that Chapter. (2-18-70; 5-22-72; 1961 Code, § 18-1; 16-76-31; 13-77-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)


Section 31-1-2. Prohibited acts.

(a)
It shall be unlawful for any canvasser, peddler, or solicitor to ring the bell, or knock on the door, or otherwise attempt to gain admittance for the purpose of canvassing, peddling or soliciting at any residence, dwelling or apartment at which a sign bearing the words "No Peddlers or Solicitors" or words of similar import indicating that such persons are not wanted on said premises, is painted, affixed or otherwise exposed to public view.

(b)
It shall be unlawful for any canvasser, peddler, or solicitor, to canvass, peddle, or solicit except between the hours of 9:00 A.M. and 8:00 P.M.

(c)
It shall be unlawful for any canvasser, peddler, or solicitor to fail to disclose to the prospective buyer, upon request, his name and the name of the company, product or organization he represents, and if requested so to do, to leave the premises immediately.

(d)
It shall be unlawful for any canvasser, peddler, or solicitor to make any assertion, representation or statement of fact which misrepresents the purpose of his call, or use any plan, scheme, or ruse which misrepresents such purpose.

(e)
It shall be unlawful for any peddler or solicitor to fail to provide, at the request of the purchaser, a written receipt, which receipt shall be signed by the person making the sale and shall set forth a brief description of the goods or services sold, the total purchase price thereof, amount of cash payment, if any, and the balance due and terms of payment.

(f)
It shall be unlawful for any person licensed pursuant to this Chapter to use or exploit the fact of being licensed so as to lead the public to believe that such registration in any manner constitutes an endorsement or approval by this County; provided, however, that the use of the following statement shall not be deemed a prohibited exploitation:"Licensed by the Director of the Fairfax County Department of Consumer Affairs as required by law. Licensing does not imply endorsement by Fairfax County.

(g)
It shall be unlawful for any canvasser, peddler, or solicitor to give false or incorrect information to the Director in filing statements or reports required by this Chapter.

(h)
It shall be unlawful for any person who is licensed as a promoter of an arts and crafts show pursuant to this Chapter to fail to submit a roster of all peddlers, itinerant merchants, or solicitors who are expected to participate in any arts and crafts show being sponsored by that person to the Director no less than three (3) days prior to conducting any such show. That roster also shall indicate the time and place of the expected show.

(i)
It shall be unlawful for any person who is licensed as a promoter of an arts and crafts show pursuant to this Chapter to fail to keep at the site of an arts and crafts show a current roster of all peddlers, itinerant merchants, or solicitors participating in any ongoing arts and crafts show being sponsored by that person, and it shall be unlawful to fail to show such roster upon request to the Director or to any law enforcement official.

(j)
It shall be unlawful for any such promoter to fail to file with the Director a complete roster of all such participants within seven (7) days after the completion of any arts and crafts show sponsored by the promoter within the County. All such rosters shall record the time and location of the event, and such rosters shall identify the full name, address, telephone number and nature of business for each participant. (16-76-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

Section 31-1-3. Information filed to become public records.2 []

Reports, and all other documents and information required to be filed under this Chapter shall become public records to be kept in the office of the Director and shall be open to the general public for inspection at such time and under such conditions as the Director may prescribe. A charge not exceeding One Dollar ($1.00) per page may be made for any copy of such documents as may be furnished any person by the Director. (16-76-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31.)

Section 31-1-4. Penalties.3. []

Any person who violates or causes to be violated any provision of this Chapter shall be guilty of a Class 2 misdemeanor. (37-74-18; 1961 Code, §§ 18-1.1, 18-1.2; 16-76-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

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Article 2. Licenses.
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Section 31-2-1. Licenses required; surrender of revoked or suspended licenses.

Section 31-2-2. Copy of license to be provided.4

Section 31-2-3. Identification on vehicles; business sign.

Section 31-2-4. Application for license.5

Section 31-2-5. Fee.6

Section 31-2-6. Bond required.7

Section 31-2-7. Investigation of applicant.8

Section 31-2-8. Issuance and denial.9

Section 31-2-9. Contents of license.10

Section 31-2-10. Duration of license; non-transferable.11

Section 31-2-11. Suspension of license.12

Section 31-2-12. Revocation of license.13

Section 31-2-13. Consumer Protection Commission duties and hearings.14

Section 31-2-14. Appeals.15

Section 31-2-15. Filing of application after denial or revocation.16



Section 31-2-1. Licenses required; surrender of revoked or suspended licenses.

It shall be unlawful for any canvasser, peddler, or solicitor to engage in such business or act within the meaning and application of this Chapter within the County without first obtaining a license therefor in compliance with the provisions of this Article. However, a person may obtain a promoter's license in accordance with the provisions set forth in Section 31-2-4 to sponsor an arts and crafts show where peddlers, itinerant merchants, or solicitors may engage in business without obtaining separate licenses for each peddler, itinerant merchant, or solicitor who participates in that show. Any license issued pursuant to this Chapter shall remain the property of Fairfax County, Virginia, and upon written notification from the Director, any person who has been issued a license which has been suspended or revoked shall surrender and return that license to the Department. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-3; 16-73-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

Section 31-2-2. Copy of license to be provided.4 []

It shall be unlawful for any person required to be licensed by this Chapter to refuse to exhibit to a prospective purchaser, to the Director or to a police officer, that license after being requested to do so. It shall be unlawful for any person who has been licensed as a promoter of arts and craft shows to refuse to exhibit to an arts and craft show participant, the Director or a police officer that license after being requested to do so. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-10; 16-76-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

Section 31-2-3. Identification on vehicles; business sign.

(a)
Every vehicle used by a peddler or solicitor in the conduct of his business shall have conspicuously displayed thereon, in letters and numerals not less than three (3) inches high, the name and business address of the person, firm or corporation using such vehicle.

(b)
Every peddler or solicitor conducting business from a temporary stand shall have conspicuously displayed a sign identifying the business by name and address, with letters and numerals not less than three (3) inches high and with a total dimension not greater than twelve (12) square feet. (22-84-31.)

Section 31-2-4. Application for license.5 []

(a)
Except as otherwise provided in Paragraph (b) of this Section, all applications for licenses and renewals thereof required by this Chapter shall be made in person, on forms provided by the Director. Each applicant, if an individual, shall be required to be fingerprinted and photographed by the County. The applicant shall provide the following information, if applicable, under oath:

(1)
Pertinent personal data requested, including name, business address and home address. The applicant must corroborate this information by producing some form of identification, with photograph, issued by a government agency and at least one (1) other means of identification.

(2)
Description of applicant's physical condition.

(3)
If employed, the name and address of the employer, together with credentials establishing the exact relationship.

(4)
A brief description of the nature of the business and the goods to be sold or services to be performed.

(5)
The applicant's criminal record.

(6)
The approximate length of time the applicant intends to do business in the County.

(7)
If a vehicle is to be used, a description of the same, together with the registration and license number, or other means of identification.

(8)
The place where the goods or property proposed to be sold, or orders taken for the sale thereof, are manufactured or produced; where such goods or products are located at the time such application is filed; and the proposed method of delivery.

(9)
The names of at least two (2) persons who will certify as to the applicant's good character and business responsibility, or in lieu of the names of references, such other available evidence as will enable the Director to evaluate properly such character and responsibility.

(10)
Any other permits or licenses required under other applicable County or state laws or regulations to enable the applicant to peddle or solicit in the manner or location indicated [in] his or her application, specifically including, for example, any special permits or non-residential use permits required by the Zoning Ordinance (Chapter 112 of the County Code).

(b)
In addition to the requirements and the information required by Paragraph (a) of this Section, on application for a promoter's license, the applicant shall file a statement with the Director agreeing to provide the information specified in Section 31-1-2 and to maintain records of all such shows for a period of at least two (2) years showing the day, time, and location and the participants, identified as specified in Section 31-1-2, for each and every arts and craft show sponsored by that person. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-4; 16-76-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

Section 31-2-5. Fee.6 []

Every applicant for a license pursuant to this Chapter shall first pay the Director the sum of Twenty Dollars ($20.00) to cover processing and the costs of administration prescribed by this Article. This fee shall not be refunded to the applicant in the event that a license is refused or revoked. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-5; 16-76-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

Section 31-2-6. Bond required.7 []

Repealed by 10-93-31, § 2.

Section 31-2-7. Investigation of applicant.8 []

The Director shall have an investigation made of the applicant. A confidential record of the investigation shall be kept on file by the Director and be made available to the Commission if necessary to the Commission's consideration of an appeal of a denial of a license or renewal thereof. Such record shall also be made available to the applicant upon his request. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-6; 16-76-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31.)

Section 31-2-8. Issuance and denial.9 []

(a)
Except for any action taken pursuant to Paragraphs (b) and (c) of this Section, the Director shall issue the applicant a license within sixty (60) days following the date of the filing of a license application.

(b)
The Director may, after investigation and finding that the health, safety and welfare of the public so demand, refuse to issue a license to an applicant for reasons including, but not limited to, the following:

(1)
Conviction of any felony within the five (5) years immediately preceding the date of filing of the application.

(2)
Conviction of any crime within the five (5) years immediately preceding the date of filing of the application, involving a crime against a person or involving moral turpitude, including, but not limited to, violation of any law regulating sexual conduct or the production, sale, possession or use of narcotics.

(3)
Fraud, misrepresentation or intentional false statement of material or relevant facts contained in the application or previous denial or revocation of any license as provided by Section 31-2-15.

(4)
The applicant does not have other necessary permits or licenses required to peddle or solicit in the manner or location indicated in his or her application or is prohibited under other applicable laws or regulations from conducting his or her business in such a manner or location.

(c)
An applicant for a license may be issued a temporary permit after filing the application based upon a preliminary investigation by the Director, which permit shall remain in effect until the issuance, or denial, of a license as herein provided.

(d)
In the event the Director denies a license, he shall notify the applicant, in writing, within ten (10) days of the denial of the license. Such notification shall be sent by certified mail. The applicant may appeal therefrom as provided for in Section 31-2-14. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-7; 16-76-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

Section 31-2-9. Contents of license.10 []

Such license shall contain the following information:a license number, name of the applicant, photograph and thumbprint of applicant, if an individual; the kind of goods to be sold, services performed, or kind of canvassing to be conducted; name of employer, if any; date of issuance and expiration; signature of the Director; and such other information as the Director deems appropriate. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-8; 16-76-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31.)

Section 31-2-10. Duration of license; non-transferable.11 []

Except for temporary licenses issued pursuant to Section 31-2-8, all licenses issued pursuant to this Article shall be valid for a period of one (1) year from the date of issuance. No license shall be transferable. A license shall become void at such time as a licensee hereunder changes (i) the licensee's employer, if not self-employed, (ii) the kinds of goods to be sold, (iii) the type of services to be performed, or (iv) the kind of canvassing to be conducted. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-9; 16-76-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

Section 31-2-11. Suspension of license.12 []

Any license issued under this Article may be suspended by the Director, without notice or hearing, for a period of up to ten (10) days for any of the reasons for which a license could be denied under Section 31-2-9 or for any violation of any provision of this Chapter. Such suspension may be extended beyond the initial period until the charge(s) upon which it is grounded have been disposed of; provided, that the licensee shall be so notified in writing within the initial ten-day period of suspension. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-12; 16-76-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31; 10-93-31, § 1.)

Section 31-2-12. Revocation of license.13 []

(a)
Any license issued under the provisions of this Article may be revoked by the Director after first giving seven (7) days' written notice to the licensee stating the reasons therefor, which may include, but shall not be limited to, the following:

(1)
Any of the reasons for which a license can be denied under Section 31-2-8.

(2)
Cancellation or termination of the bond required in Section 31-2-6.

(3)
Conduct of the business or activity for which the license was issued in an unlawful manner or in such manner as to constitute a breach of the peace or a danger to the health, safety, and welfare of the public, including but not limited to, the following:

(A)
Use of a threat, expressed or implied, or of coercion as inducement to make a sale; or

(B)
Refusal to discontinue efforts to make a sale when specifically requested to do so by the prospective purchaser.

(4)
Violating any provision of this Chapter.

(5)
Violating any provision of the Virginia Home Solicitation Sales Act (Code of Virginia, Chapter 2.1 of Title 59.1), the Virginia Consumer Protection Act (Code of Virginia, Chapter 17 of Title 59.1) or any other applicable consumer protection measures which are pertinent to the conduct of the licensed business activity.

(b)
Notice of revocation shall be sent by certified mail to the licensee at the business address appearing on the license application; or if there be none, to the residence address appearing thereon. The licensee may file an appeal therefrom in accordance with Section 31-2-14.

(c)
The Director shall keep a permanent record of all licenses revoked. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-11; 16-76-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31.)

Section 31-2-13. Consumer Protection Commission duties and hearings.14 []

It is hereby established that the Commission shall, in addition to the performance of such other duties and responsibilities as may be imposed upon it, consider and act upon appeals from action of the Director, in the manner more specifically set forth hereinafter. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-13; 16-76-31; 13-77-31; 22-84-31.)

Section 31-2-14. Appeals.15 []

(a)
From Decisions of the Director.

(1)
Right of appeal. If the Director denies, suspends or revokes any license, any person affected thereby may appeal such decision to the Commission.

(2)
Procedure. The appellant or his attorney may file in the office of the Director a written notice of appeal signed by the appellant or his attorney requesting a hearing and setting forth a brief statement of the reasons therefor. Such appeal shall be filed within thirty (30) days of receipt of the notice of denial, suspension or revocation.

(A)
Upon receipt of such notice of appeal, the Director shall forthwith notify the Commission. The Commission shall set a time and place for such hearing which shall be scheduled within forty-five (45) days of receipt of the request therefor and shall mail written notice thereof to the appellant or his attorney no less than seven (7) days prior thereto.

(B)
Hearings of the Commission pursuant to this Chapter shall be open to the public and shall be, insofar as is reasonably practicable, informal and free of technical rules of law or evidence. Appellants shall be entitled to be heard in person and/or by counsel, and shall be entitled to provide for the transcribing of the proceedings in any manner which will not impede the orderly conduct of a hearing of the proceedings. Appellants may also call such witnesses as are deemed necessary.

(i)
The Commission shall hear the matter de novo, and shall consider the evidence presented to it, including any statements offered by interested parties.

(ii)
The Commission may establish such additional rules of procedure for the conduct of its hearings as may be consistent with the provisions of this Chapter.

(C)
Decisions of the Commission shall be reduced to writing, and rendered within thirty (30) days of concluding the hearing. A copy thereof shall be furnished to appellant or his attorney.

(D)
If the Commission affirms the decision of the Director to deny, suspend or revoke a license, the denial, suspension or revocation shall be effective from the date of the Commission's order, except as hereinafter provided in this Section.

(E)
If the Commission reverses the decision of the Director, the Commission shall direct the Director to issue or restore the license in accordance with it orders.

(3)
Effect of appeal. The appeal of the decision to revoke a license under Section 31-2-12 shall stay the effective date of the revocation.

(b)
From Decisions of the Commission. The decisions of the Commission shall in all cases be final, except that any appellant may, within thirty (30) days after the rendering of such decision pursue any other legal remedy available to him under Federal or State Law. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-14; 16-76-31; 13-77-31; 43-81-31; 22-84-31.)

Section 31-2-15. Filing of application after denial or revocation.16 []

No application for a license under the provisions of this Chapter shall be accepted from any person whose application for a license has been denied or whose license has been revoked for a period one (1) year from the date of such denial or revocation. (2-18-70; 1961 Code, § 18-15; 16-76-31; 13-77-31; 22-84-31.)

obviously laws are not intended to prevent the poor from persevering, to harass the poor, in a town the rich are living large in

legal harassment was known and many laws were written attempting to make it impossible 2000 years ago

Why do some people get so upset about panhandling? As a successful panhandler, I only make about $96,000 a year, which is just middle class for this area. Granted, I pay no taxes, but then again, I get no medical, dental, or paid time off. Besides, I provide a valuable service relieving the guilty conscience of typical liberals who also never work a day in their lives yet collect much bigger paychecks.

Pro Panhandler Wrote:
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> Why do some people get so upset about panhandling?
> As a successful panhandler, I only make about
> $96,000 a year, which is just middle class for
> this area. Granted, I pay no taxes, but then
> again, I get no medical, dental, or paid time off.
> Besides, I provide a valuable service relieving
> the guilty conscience of typical liberals who also
> never work a day in their lives yet collect much
> bigger paychecks.

Fixed it for you

Why do some people get so upset about panhandling?
As a successful panhandler, I only make about $96,000 a year, which is just middle class for
this area. Granted, I pay no taxes, but then again, nobody in the Teaparty does. I get free medical, dental because I exploit the goverment on my fake disability claim all the while complaining about it. Besides, I provide a valuable service relieving the guilty conscience of typical liberals who also work real jobs because their parents taught them vaules and made education a priority so they didn't grow up to be useless parasites like just about everyone in the Teaparty. I spend my free time making sure tha guns are everywhere and that lots of people get killed. I really dig when children get murdered by guns! Frankly I am a prick and useless but hey it beats working like all you stupid libs!

LMxTt Wrote:
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> Pro Panhandler Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do some people get so upset about
> panhandling?
> > As a successful panhandler, I only make about
> > $96,000 a year, which is just middle class for
> > this area. Granted, I pay no taxes, but then
> > again, I get no medical, dental, or paid time
> off.
> > Besides, I provide a valuable service
> relieving
> > the guilty conscience of typical liberals who
> also
> > never work a day in their lives yet collect
> much
> > bigger paychecks.
>
> Fixed it for you
>
> Why do some people get so upset about panhandling?
>
> As a successful panhandler, I only make about
> $96,000 a year, which is just middle class for
> this area. Granted, I pay no taxes, but then
> again, nobody in the Teaparty does. I get free
> medical, dental because I exploit the goverment on
> my fake disability claim all the while complaining
> about it. Besides, I provide a valuable service
> relieving the guilty conscience of typical
> liberals who also work real jobs because their
> parents taught them vaules and made education a
> priority so they didn't grow up to be useless
> parasites like just about everyone in the
> Teaparty. I spend my free time making sure tha
> guns are everywhere and that lots of people get
> killed. I really dig when children get murdered by
> guns! Frankly I am a prick and useless but hey it
> beats working like all you stupid libs!

+1000

Some of these comments are horrible. I am considering panhandling forva brief period to get on my feet. I am a Realtor, my 11 monthe old grandson died (unsolved case) I then got very ill for two years due to black mold exposure in my home, then my daughter became ill and almost died 6 times I had to be with her 24/7 to help care for her. My broker fired me for lack of production/personal problems and now my daughter is better the past two weeks but I have $0 and have lost everything and myself and two kids are homeless. I have always volunteered for organizations and I have worked 2-3 jobs my whole life until one bad event after another brought me here. Shelter's are full and county programs have no funds the county worker agreed 100% I just pan handle. I am neither a drug alcholic nor drug addict. I am your average middle class citizen in a bad economy that had unfortunate tragedies and illness that cant afford to pay my Real Estate fees to work. What would you suggest I do? You shouldnt judge everyone as being the same.

that sounds awful. where will your children go when you panhandle? I do empathize with you, but I'm afraid that if you leave them someplace, or have them with you while panhandling, people may call social services and they may be consequently taken away.

Deb Wrote:
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> Some of these comments are horrible. I am
> considering panhandling forva brief period to get
> on my feet. I am a Realtor, my 11 monthe old
> grandson died (unsolved case) I then got very ill
> for two years due to black mold exposure in my
> home, then my daughter became ill and almost died
> 6 times I had to be with her 24/7 to help care for
> her. My broker fired me for lack of
> production/personal problems and now my daughter
> is better the past two weeks but I have $0 and
> have lost everything and myself and two kids are
> homeless. I have always volunteered for
> organizations and I have worked 2-3 jobs my whole
> life until one bad event after another brought me
> here. Shelter's are full and county programs have
> no funds the county worker agreed 100% I just pan
> handle. I am neither a drug alcholic nor drug
> addict. I am your average middle class citizen in
> a bad economy that had unfortunate tragedies and
> illness that cant afford to pay my Real Estate
> fees to work. What would you suggest I do? You
> shouldnt judge everyone as being the same.

Fuck panhandling. Just set up a listing in back page. You'll make way more money in one night than a week or more of panhandling. Plus you don't need to be out in the weather.

One question though, do you do anal?

Churches and politicians panhandle all the time. Salvation Army does it an Xmas time as well.

i have no issues with panhandling, other than people walking in the road, and/or standing in the median (some times these people can be as wide or wider, so dangerous), or the odd person out there harassing people.

Panhandling is a cancer to society.

If you're giving money to a person who could work, you're underwriting sloth.

If you're giving money to a person who can't work, mostly likely due to alcohol or illegal substances, then you're underwriting his habit.

And the ones panhandling with children should be arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Don't say anything mean to them. Just don't give them any money, whether they're gypsies, or some old dude with a cardboard sign saying he fought in Vietnam.

And what if he did fight in Vietnam? Sorry folks but tax dollars aren't going to all the places it should. Also, I never even conceived the thought of being homeless.I have worked two jobs since I was 15 years old. Throw a bad economy in with one family tragedy after another in midlife and the person you are judging on the street could easily be any one of you. I can assure you that the state agencies have no funds to help someone in an emergency right now and the Shelters have waiting lists that is the harsh reality that some Americans have to live currently. Sorry that it makes so many uncomfortable and that normal human reaction is to judge that which you can not relate to.

STOP BEING AFRAID OF THE FGOVERMENT. THE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF THE GOVERMENT, THE GOVERMENT SHOULD BE AFRAID OF THE PEOPLE!!!! TAKE THE CHILD WITH YOU. PANHANDLING IS PROTECTED BY 4 (COUNT EM, FOUR!!) CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS. RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, SSE,BLE AND GATHER, UNLAWFUL SEARCH AND SEIZURE...FREEDOM OF FRIGGING SPEECH!!! ANYONE WHO SAYS PANHANDLING IS A CRIME IS A CRIMINAL THEMSELVES,

Jesus was a begger. His apostles were beggers. You are OBVIOUSLY NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN. THIS IS AMERICA!!! FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, THE RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE AND GATHER TO ADRESS GRIEVENCES. YOU are a cancer on this society. YOU ARE A COMMUNIST AND THE WORST KIND. YOU ARE A TERRORIST.

the angel Michael Wrote:
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> Jesus was a begger. His apostles were beggers. You
> are OBVIOUSLY NOT A TRUE CHRISTIAN. THIS IS
> AMERICA!!! FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF THE
> PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, THE RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE AND
> GATHER TO ADRESS GRIEVENCES. YOU are a cancer on
> this society. YOU ARE A COMMUNIST AND THE WORST
> KIND. YOU ARE A TERRORIST.


Jesus and his apostles were never beggers, but believed that work is the will of God for everyone.
Jesus was a carpenter by trade. When he entered ministry at age 30, he had his needs provided for, besides he was God in the flesh and was able to perform miracles .. turning water into wine and multiplying food ... Jesus was not a begger. I forgive you for using His name in Vain to suit your own purposes here on FFYU. -- Peace.

May not be illegal but it is obnoxious as shit. I bust my ass at work to EARN money. I don't want to give it away to every schmo I see spare changing on an intersection island or curb. May be nice folks with a shit situation, tough shit, but I do them some respect at least for not being just a criminal to deal with your issues and earn habit money.

is freedom of speech: bullshit

the commonwealth law is all business must be registered with the county, also all sales over (was it $500?) or some total per (year?) of such sales

earlier the fee for doing so was minute and no certification was necessary. it gave the county what they needed to keep consumers safe by having any record

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in the 80's the fee small business worried about was advertising. not with gov duh.

the cost of being in the Yellow Pages and paying to have signs made, and finding customers. a huge cost. stealing a customer list (ie, like todays computer companies do) was (and is) a MAJOR crime back then

but the other "worry" was the good ol boy system was stronger in the 80's, the rich fat cats would shred or attack your little companies unless they found a way to prevent it

there is something to the effect if you sell products above the board that (cannot) harm customers and use your real identity , and if you paid taxes

that "there is no law against being lawful"

You know what should be illegal: TYPING POSTS IN ALL CAPS!

ALLCAPS lets the reader know that the OP is ranting. And, in real life when you hear a ranter, you know that they are so angry that they are shaking, and usually spraying spittle.