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Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
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The Neighborhood Watch!
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Date: July 31, 2013 07:15AM
Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
The man is in serious condition in an Ohio hospital.
http://herndon.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/man-who-works-in-herndon-injured-in-ohio-shooting
A man who works in Herndon was shot in Ohio over the weekend, according to news reports.
William J. Rudd was the victim of a car-jacking Saturday in Madison County, the Columbus Dispatch reports. Rudd, the parent of a young son, is in serious condition.
Two teens, Devonere Simmonds and Nathaniel Brunner, have been charged in the crime.
Rudd works as a laser engineer at Fibertek in Herndon, according to WJLA.
The man is in serious condition in an Ohio hospital.
http://herndon.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/man-who-works-in-herndon-injured-in-ohio-shooting
A man who works in Herndon was shot in Ohio over the weekend, according to news reports.
William J. Rudd was the victim of a car-jacking Saturday in Madison County, the Columbus Dispatch reports. Rudd, the parent of a young son, is in serious condition.
Two teens, Devonere Simmonds and Nathaniel Brunner, have been charged in the crime.
Rudd works as a laser engineer at Fibertek in Herndon, according to WJLA.
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
svennestle
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Date: August 01, 2013 10:41PM
interesting story really hope to hear more.
he leaves town gets in a neighborhood he's not farmiliar with and is shot? probably should have been armed?
they use to give tourist warnings to people. "if you go in unfamiliar parts of NY city keep your windws up"
geeze do you need ot google a crime map before you travel these days?
he leaves town gets in a neighborhood he's not farmiliar with and is shot? probably should have been armed?
they use to give tourist warnings to people. "if you go in unfamiliar parts of NY city keep your windws up"
geeze do you need ot google a crime map before you travel these days?
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
Al Sharptongue
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Date: August 01, 2013 10:45PM
Devonere Simmonds and Nathaniel Brunner hmmmmm
Church, family say they tried to help shooting suspect
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More Info
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Date: August 02, 2013 07:46AM
Church, family say they tried to help shooting suspect
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/07/28/driving-park-church-service.html
One of the two South Side residents charged with murder in a string of shootings last week had been in a juvenile lockup for three years, being released in late May only because he had turned 18, a mentor from his neighborhood said yesterday.
Members of the Family Missionary Baptist Church on the South Side didn’t know Nathaniel Brunner well, not having seen him while he was in state custody, said Benjamin Price, 55, who mentors troubled youth at the church.
Price didn’t know what crime Brunner committed as a juvenile, but he knows it must have been serious, given the length of the sentence.
Members were better-acquainted with Brunner’s alleged partner in crime, Devonere Simmonds, 17, who often visited the church through the years. At a service yesterday morning, church mentors and Simmonds’ older sister said they wish they had spent more time trying to get the boy’s life on track.
“We tried to work with them and reason with them, but you can’t make a person do anything,” Price said. “The pull to the streets was too great for them. We tried, and they just didn’t want to let go of the streets.
“I wish I would have spent more time with them and reaching out to them because I could see they were trouble. But I could never get hold of them, and that’s what hurt me more than anything else. I just didn’t take the time to do the things that were necessary.”
Simmonds’ mother, grandmother, brothers and sisters attended yesterday’s service. The Rev. Frederick LaMarr said the congregation shared their grief.
Simmonds is the middle child of seven and the oldest son, church members said.
LaMarr said he hadn’t seen Brunner in seven years, since he was 11 years old.
The two were the subject of a manhunt that ended Saturday in Dayton when police found them sleeping in a stolen car that had been taken from a Virginia man who was shot in the head at a truck stop at Rt. 42 and I-70. The victim, William Joseph Rudd, 39, was pumping gas when he was shot at 4:50 a.m. Saturday.
He was listed in serious condition yesterday in OhioHealth Grant Medical Center, an upgrade from Saturday, when police said he had been admitted in critical condition.
Rudd had attended a high-school reunion in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and was headed back to Virginia, where he works in laser technology, said Pat Rudd, who is married to Rudd’s first cousin, Craig Rudd of Drakesville, Iowa.
Rudd is the sole parent of a young son. The boy had been staying with Rudd’s parents in Cedar Rapids, but they all have come to Columbus since learning of the shooting, Pat Rudd said.
Family members wonder why a State Highway Patrol trooper picked up Simmonds and Brunner on the road early Saturday and dropped them off at the truck stop.
“Why did the cop pick up these two boys and let them go and never search them?” Pat Rudd said.
Patrol Sgt. Jeff Shane has been placed on paid leave while his handling of the case is investigated.
Before Rudd’s shooting, Lamont Frazier, 17, who was Simmonds’ friend, was shot and killed Thursday. That killing happened just blocks from the Convenient Plus Food Mart on E. Livingston Avenue where, on Wednesday, clerk Imran Ashgar was shot and killed. Police have charged Simmonds and Brunner with murder in Ashgar’s killing; they say a surveillance camera captured Simmonds holding a gun over the clerk.
On July 21, two other people were shot, one fatally, outside a vacant house at 777 Lilley Ave. Police say Quinten Ellis-John Prater was killed and James E. Norvet III was critically wounded.
The Columbus police homicide squad provided no further information on the two suspects yesterday afternoon. They were not yet in the Franklin County jail.
No one at the church condones the crimes, and there no doubt will be a price to pay, LaMarr said. But his church believes not in judging others, but in redemption, he said.
“With that, we’re glad that they have found them,” LaMarr said.
“I tried to reach out to him, but I’m always working, so I haven’t,” said Simmonds’ oldest sister, Martika Mahone, 23, a cashier at the Hollywood Casino Columbus.
Surrounded by family, Simmonds’ mother, Maya Foster, stood and swayed yesterday as the church sang, Let go and let God have his way.
“We have God in our hearts every day, not just today,” Foster said as she left the service, adding that she had no news of her son and assumed he was still in jail in Dayton.
Devonere Simmonds, left, and Nathaniel Brunner
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http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/07/28/driving-park-church-service.html
One of the two South Side residents charged with murder in a string of shootings last week had been in a juvenile lockup for three years, being released in late May only because he had turned 18, a mentor from his neighborhood said yesterday.
Members of the Family Missionary Baptist Church on the South Side didn’t know Nathaniel Brunner well, not having seen him while he was in state custody, said Benjamin Price, 55, who mentors troubled youth at the church.
Price didn’t know what crime Brunner committed as a juvenile, but he knows it must have been serious, given the length of the sentence.
Members were better-acquainted with Brunner’s alleged partner in crime, Devonere Simmonds, 17, who often visited the church through the years. At a service yesterday morning, church mentors and Simmonds’ older sister said they wish they had spent more time trying to get the boy’s life on track.
“We tried to work with them and reason with them, but you can’t make a person do anything,” Price said. “The pull to the streets was too great for them. We tried, and they just didn’t want to let go of the streets.
“I wish I would have spent more time with them and reaching out to them because I could see they were trouble. But I could never get hold of them, and that’s what hurt me more than anything else. I just didn’t take the time to do the things that were necessary.”
Simmonds’ mother, grandmother, brothers and sisters attended yesterday’s service. The Rev. Frederick LaMarr said the congregation shared their grief.
Simmonds is the middle child of seven and the oldest son, church members said.
LaMarr said he hadn’t seen Brunner in seven years, since he was 11 years old.
The two were the subject of a manhunt that ended Saturday in Dayton when police found them sleeping in a stolen car that had been taken from a Virginia man who was shot in the head at a truck stop at Rt. 42 and I-70. The victim, William Joseph Rudd, 39, was pumping gas when he was shot at 4:50 a.m. Saturday.
He was listed in serious condition yesterday in OhioHealth Grant Medical Center, an upgrade from Saturday, when police said he had been admitted in critical condition.
Rudd had attended a high-school reunion in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and was headed back to Virginia, where he works in laser technology, said Pat Rudd, who is married to Rudd’s first cousin, Craig Rudd of Drakesville, Iowa.
Rudd is the sole parent of a young son. The boy had been staying with Rudd’s parents in Cedar Rapids, but they all have come to Columbus since learning of the shooting, Pat Rudd said.
Family members wonder why a State Highway Patrol trooper picked up Simmonds and Brunner on the road early Saturday and dropped them off at the truck stop.
“Why did the cop pick up these two boys and let them go and never search them?” Pat Rudd said.
Patrol Sgt. Jeff Shane has been placed on paid leave while his handling of the case is investigated.
Before Rudd’s shooting, Lamont Frazier, 17, who was Simmonds’ friend, was shot and killed Thursday. That killing happened just blocks from the Convenient Plus Food Mart on E. Livingston Avenue where, on Wednesday, clerk Imran Ashgar was shot and killed. Police have charged Simmonds and Brunner with murder in Ashgar’s killing; they say a surveillance camera captured Simmonds holding a gun over the clerk.
On July 21, two other people were shot, one fatally, outside a vacant house at 777 Lilley Ave. Police say Quinten Ellis-John Prater was killed and James E. Norvet III was critically wounded.
The Columbus police homicide squad provided no further information on the two suspects yesterday afternoon. They were not yet in the Franklin County jail.
No one at the church condones the crimes, and there no doubt will be a price to pay, LaMarr said. But his church believes not in judging others, but in redemption, he said.
“With that, we’re glad that they have found them,” LaMarr said.
“I tried to reach out to him, but I’m always working, so I haven’t,” said Simmonds’ oldest sister, Martika Mahone, 23, a cashier at the Hollywood Casino Columbus.
Surrounded by family, Simmonds’ mother, Maya Foster, stood and swayed yesterday as the church sang, Let go and let God have his way.
“We have God in our hearts every day, not just today,” Foster said as she left the service, adding that she had no news of her son and assumed he was still in jail in Dayton.
Devonere Simmonds, left, and Nathaniel Brunner
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Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
blanche
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Date: August 02, 2013 07:59AM
"Let go and let God have his way." "But his church believes not in judging others, but in redemption, he said."
I get really tired of God letting us have to deal with these sinners and churches "love the sinner, hate the sin"
Who causes the sin?
No one will call a digging implement adapted for being pushed into the ground with the foot a digging implement adapted for being pushed into the ground with the foot,
I get really tired of God letting us have to deal with these sinners and churches "love the sinner, hate the sin"
Who causes the sin?
No one will call a digging implement adapted for being pushed into the ground with the foot a digging implement adapted for being pushed into the ground with the foot,
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
Mr. Insensitive
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Date: August 02, 2013 08:05AM
blanche Wrote:
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> "Let go and let God have his way." "But his church
> believes not in judging others, but in redemption,
> he said."
>
>
> I get really tired of God letting us have to deal
> with these sinners and churches "love the sinner,
> hate the sin"
>
> Who causes the sin?
>
> No one will call a digging implement adapted for
> being pushed into the ground with the foot a
> digging implement adapted for being pushed into
> the ground with the foot,
I have a unique view on God, religion, and criminals. I look at criminals the same way I look at bad toaster. Do I keep the bad toaster in my house and let it sit and burn my toast or short out and burn my house down? No, I return to the store. So I look at criminals the same way. They're broken humans, most of which will never get better and most get only worse. I say shoot them, its like returning the toaster to the store, except in this case you're returning them to God.
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> "Let go and let God have his way." "But his church
> believes not in judging others, but in redemption,
> he said."
>
>
> I get really tired of God letting us have to deal
> with these sinners and churches "love the sinner,
> hate the sin"
>
> Who causes the sin?
>
> No one will call a digging implement adapted for
> being pushed into the ground with the foot a
> digging implement adapted for being pushed into
> the ground with the foot,
I have a unique view on God, religion, and criminals. I look at criminals the same way I look at bad toaster. Do I keep the bad toaster in my house and let it sit and burn my toast or short out and burn my house down? No, I return to the store. So I look at criminals the same way. They're broken humans, most of which will never get better and most get only worse. I say shoot them, its like returning the toaster to the store, except in this case you're returning them to God.
Re: Church, family say they tried to help shooting suspect
Posted by:
adsfasfdasdf
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Date: August 02, 2013 10:15AM
More Info Wrote:
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> The two were the subject of a manhunt that ended
> Saturday in Dayton when police found them sleeping
> in a stolen car that had been taken from a
> Virginia man who was shot in the head at a truck
> stop at Rt. 42 and I-70. The victim, William
> Joseph Rudd, 39, was pumping gas when he was shot
> at 4:50 a.m. Saturday.
>
> He was listed in serious condition yesterday in
> OhioHealth Grant Medical Center, an upgrade from
> Saturday, when police said he had been admitted in
> critical condition.
>
> Rudd had attended a high-school reunion in Cedar
> Rapids, Iowa, and was headed back to Virginia,
> where he works in laser technology, said Pat Rudd,
> who is married to Rudd’s first cousin, Craig
> Rudd of Drakesville, Iowa.
>
> Rudd is the sole parent of a young son. The boy
> had been staying with Rudd’s parents in Cedar
> Rapids, but they all have come to Columbus since
> learning of the shooting, Pat Rudd said.
>
> Family members wonder why a State Highway Patrol
> trooper picked up Simmonds and Brunner on the road
> early Saturday and dropped them off at the truck
> stop.
>
> “Why did the cop pick up these two boys and let
> them go and never search them?” Pat Rudd said.
>
> Patrol Sgt. Jeff Shane has been placed on paid
> leave while his handling of the case is
> investigated.
Interesting, these two kids shot the guy in the head. Cold Blooded killers.
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> The two were the subject of a manhunt that ended
> Saturday in Dayton when police found them sleeping
> in a stolen car that had been taken from a
> Virginia man who was shot in the head at a truck
> stop at Rt. 42 and I-70. The victim, William
> Joseph Rudd, 39, was pumping gas when he was shot
> at 4:50 a.m. Saturday.
>
> He was listed in serious condition yesterday in
> OhioHealth Grant Medical Center, an upgrade from
> Saturday, when police said he had been admitted in
> critical condition.
>
> Rudd had attended a high-school reunion in Cedar
> Rapids, Iowa, and was headed back to Virginia,
> where he works in laser technology, said Pat Rudd,
> who is married to Rudd’s first cousin, Craig
> Rudd of Drakesville, Iowa.
>
> Rudd is the sole parent of a young son. The boy
> had been staying with Rudd’s parents in Cedar
> Rapids, but they all have come to Columbus since
> learning of the shooting, Pat Rudd said.
>
> Family members wonder why a State Highway Patrol
> trooper picked up Simmonds and Brunner on the road
> early Saturday and dropped them off at the truck
> stop.
>
> “Why did the cop pick up these two boys and let
> them go and never search them?” Pat Rudd said.
>
> Patrol Sgt. Jeff Shane has been placed on paid
> leave while his handling of the case is
> investigated.
Interesting, these two kids shot the guy in the head. Cold Blooded killers.
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
MiamiRiverRat
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Date: August 02, 2013 11:40AM
svennestle Wrote:
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> interesting story really hope to hear more.
>
> he leaves town gets in a neighborhood he's not
> farmiliar with and is shot? probably should have
> been armed?
>
> they use to give tourist warnings to people. "if
> you go in unfamiliar parts of NY city keep your
> windws up"
>
> geeze do you need ot google a crime map before you
> travel these days?
"The two were the subject of a manhunt that ended Saturday in Dayton when police found them sleeping in a stolen car that had been taken from a Virginia man who was shot in the head at a truck stop at Rt. 42 and I-70."
The intersection of Rt.42 and I-70 is in farm country and normally has a very low crime rate. He was shot in a truck stop and not in a "hood". BTW, Madison County is 89.2% white.
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> interesting story really hope to hear more.
>
> he leaves town gets in a neighborhood he's not
> farmiliar with and is shot? probably should have
> been armed?
>
> they use to give tourist warnings to people. "if
> you go in unfamiliar parts of NY city keep your
> windws up"
>
> geeze do you need ot google a crime map before you
> travel these days?
"The two were the subject of a manhunt that ended Saturday in Dayton when police found them sleeping in a stolen car that had been taken from a Virginia man who was shot in the head at a truck stop at Rt. 42 and I-70."
The intersection of Rt.42 and I-70 is in farm country and normally has a very low crime rate. He was shot in a truck stop and not in a "hood". BTW, Madison County is 89.2% white.
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
blanche
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Date: August 02, 2013 02:43PM
Maybe these two charmers were interested in "The Bridges of Madison County."
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
Pointless
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Date: August 02, 2013 06:41PM
Wow, there's no safe place to get away from the savages.
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
Lewis
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Date: August 02, 2013 09:10PM
Imagine if two white teenagers walked up and tried to execute a sleeping black man. That would be the lead story on the news for a month. Every TV and radio "personality" would talk about this endlessly for months.
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
473Z5
()
Date: August 07, 2013 08:05AM
Clearly shooting someone in the head is attempted murder. No respect for life what so ever. 20 years at least with no paraole.
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
Sick
()
Date: August 14, 2013 10:34AM
I'm so tired of hearing I'm sorry and we tried to help...Keep all your sorrys I dont need them my son is no longer here, he was murdered in broad daylight. For what there will never be a reason good enough for me to accept. These boys had problems long before this and were not stopped. He cut off his ankle monitor why wasnt he picked up in June. You as a mother should have reported that then. Then to shoot two people in the head, then shoot a man working in a carryout, then shoot your friend 3 times, then continue on by shooting another innocent man beacuse you want his car. That should have never happened had the state trooper have taken his job more seriouly, he would have payed attention searched them or atleast asked for ID. No lets just take them to a truck stop to try and kill 1 more person. Where is the justice. A life sentence will never be enough...
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
Two Cents
()
Date: August 14, 2013 10:51AM
Sick Wrote:
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> I'm so tired of hearing I'm sorry and we tried to
> help...Keep all your sorrys I dont need them my
> son is no longer here, he was murdered in broad
> daylight. For what there will never be a reason
> good enough for me to accept. These boys had
> problems long before this and were not stopped. He
> cut off his ankle monitor why wasnt he picked up
> in June. You as a mother should have reported that
> then. Then to shoot two people in the head, then
> shoot a man working in a carryout, then shoot your
> friend 3 times, then continue on by shooting
> another innocent man beacuse you want his car.
> That should have never happened had the state
> trooper have taken his job more seriouly, he would
> have payed attention searched them or atleast
> asked for ID. No lets just take them to a truck
> stop to try and kill 1 more person. Where is the
> justice. A life sentence will never be enough...
Agreed.
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> I'm so tired of hearing I'm sorry and we tried to
> help...Keep all your sorrys I dont need them my
> son is no longer here, he was murdered in broad
> daylight. For what there will never be a reason
> good enough for me to accept. These boys had
> problems long before this and were not stopped. He
> cut off his ankle monitor why wasnt he picked up
> in June. You as a mother should have reported that
> then. Then to shoot two people in the head, then
> shoot a man working in a carryout, then shoot your
> friend 3 times, then continue on by shooting
> another innocent man beacuse you want his car.
> That should have never happened had the state
> trooper have taken his job more seriouly, he would
> have payed attention searched them or atleast
> asked for ID. No lets just take them to a truck
> stop to try and kill 1 more person. Where is the
> justice. A life sentence will never be enough...
Agreed.
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
Cailean
()
Date: December 05, 2014 10:53AM
svennestle Wrote:
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> interesting story really hope to hear more.
>
> he leaves town gets in a neighborhood he's not
> farmiliar with and is shot? probably should have
> been armed?
>
> they use to give tourist warnings to people. "if
> you go in unfamiliar parts of NY city keep your
> windws up"
>
> geeze do you need ot google a crime map before you
> travel these days?
He wasn't "in a neighborhood he's not farmiliar with" he was at a truckstop on the interstate. Being armed would not have helped. The only warning he had was went the pistol hit the back of his neck and went off as he turned. He wouldn't have had time to pull a weapon if he had one.
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> interesting story really hope to hear more.
>
> he leaves town gets in a neighborhood he's not
> farmiliar with and is shot? probably should have
> been armed?
>
> they use to give tourist warnings to people. "if
> you go in unfamiliar parts of NY city keep your
> windws up"
>
> geeze do you need ot google a crime map before you
> travel these days?
He wasn't "in a neighborhood he's not farmiliar with" he was at a truckstop on the interstate. Being armed would not have helped. The only warning he had was went the pistol hit the back of his neck and went off as he turned. He wouldn't have had time to pull a weapon if he had one.
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
D-BAG DEMOCRAT.
()
Date: December 05, 2014 10:59AM
The Neighborhood Watch! Wrote:
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> Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
> The man is in serious condition in an Ohio
> hospital.
> http://herndon.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/
> man-who-works-in-herndon-injured-in-ohio-shooting
>
> A man who works in Herndon was shot in Ohio over
> the weekend, according to news reports.
>
> William J. Rudd was the victim of a car-jacking
> Saturday in Madison County, the Columbus Dispatch
> reports. Rudd, the parent of a young son, is in
> serious condition.
>
> Two teens, Devonere Simmonds and Nathaniel
> Brunner, have been charged in the crime.
>
> Rudd works as a laser engineer at Fibertek in
> Herndon, according to WJLA.
This can't be right. Democrats tell us that all shootings are gun nut white male Tea Party types with a death wish. Car jacking? Who ever heard of that?
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> Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
> The man is in serious condition in an Ohio
> hospital.
> http://herndon.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/
> man-who-works-in-herndon-injured-in-ohio-shooting
>
> A man who works in Herndon was shot in Ohio over
> the weekend, according to news reports.
>
> William J. Rudd was the victim of a car-jacking
> Saturday in Madison County, the Columbus Dispatch
> reports. Rudd, the parent of a young son, is in
> serious condition.
>
> Two teens, Devonere Simmonds and Nathaniel
> Brunner, have been charged in the crime.
>
> Rudd works as a laser engineer at Fibertek in
> Herndon, according to WJLA.
This can't be right. Democrats tell us that all shootings are gun nut white male Tea Party types with a death wish. Car jacking? Who ever heard of that?
Re: Man Who Works in Herndon Injured in Ohio Shooting
Posted by:
A Friend
()
Date: December 10, 2014 10:24AM
Much more than 20 years. One got 78 to Life and the other got Life with no parole plus 45.