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Jury reaches verdict in Fairfax road rage killing
Tuesday - 2/25/2014, 4:57pm ET
WASHINGTON -- A jury found Librado Cena guilty of misdemeanor assault in a fatal road rage incident with complicated circumstances.

On April 16 last year, Cena followed a gold minivan into a Best Buy parking lot to confront its driver, William O'Brien, who Cena said had been honking at him.

A 40-second altercation followed and both men struck each other in some way. Cena says O'Brien lashed out first. At some point, Cena hit O'Brien in the head.

When it was over, both men seemed fine and walked away. But 10 days later, O'Brien was dead.

O'Brien's death was ruled a homicide, but Cena wasn't charged with murder. He was found guilty of misdemeanor assault in Fairfax County Circuit Court on Tuesday and not guilty of battery.

O'Brien took Pradaxa, an anti-stroke medication that prevents blood from clotting. Cena's blow caused O'Brien's brain to bleed, and it continued unabated, never clotting.

The defense says if O'Brien hadn't been on Pradaxa, he wouldn't have died.

The jury heard the 911 call during Monday's trial, which O'Brien placed from his home about an hour after the altercation. He complained of a headache unlike any he had ever had before.

Cena's police questioning was also played for the jury, during which he said he wanted to yell at O'Brien for incessantly honking at him on the road. He also said O'Brien kicked and punched him first, before the fatal blow.

There is video of the altercation from Best Buy's surveillance cameras, but it's taken from such a distance that it's difficult to tell from the footage exactly what happened.

On Monday, Cena told the court he regretted following 63-year-old O'Brien. If he hadn't, Cena said, "None of this would've happened. He wouldn't be dead. I wouldn't be here."

Cena will be sentenced on Wednesday. He faces up to $2,500 in fines and 12 mos. in prison. He could get either or both.

WTOP's Thomas Warren contributed to this report.

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C+V are not your friends genius.

he cried like a baby in court saying it was not his fault he didn't mean to

1 yr in jail and $2,400 for killing whites now

if you cry like a spic saying the world is unholy

while you are killing people who oppose you

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how about that guy recently who shot two black teens who were threatening to do him over while he was buying gas ?

shoudln't that be 2yr max and $5000 max ?

Not surprising. The prosecutor didn't even come close to proving Cena hit first, so battery is right out. Cena's admission of his aggressive behavior was apparently regarded as sufficient to be a threat, which is assault.

XG6N9 Wrote:
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> he cried like a baby in court saying it was not
> his fault he didn't mean to
>
> 1 yr in jail and $2,400 for killing whites now
>
> if you cry like a spic saying the world is unholy
>
> while you are killing people who oppose you
>
> ------------------------------
> how about that guy recently who shot two black
> teens who were threatening to do him over while he
> was buying gas ?
>
> shoudln't that be 2yr max and $5000 max ?

Your persistent desire to make this a racial issue is disgusting and horribly ill informed. I know Lee Cena, and his English is perfect, without accent. I believe he was born here. Oh, and did you know his wife is caucasian?

Kardinal Wrote:
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> XG6N9 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > he cried like a baby in court saying it was not
> > his fault he didn't mean to
> >
> > 1 yr in jail and $2,400 for killing whites now
> >
> > if you cry like a spic saying the world is
> unholy
> >
> > while you are killing people who oppose you
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > how about that guy recently who shot two black
> > teens who were threatening to do him over while
> he
> > was buying gas ?
> >
> > shoudln't that be 2yr max and $5000 max ?
>
> Your persistent desire to make this a racial issue
> is disgusting and horribly ill informed. I know
> Lee Cena, and his English is perfect, without
> accent. I believe he was born here. Oh, and did
> you know his wife is caucasian?


In case you didn't know, that is Svennestle. He is mentally ill (SRS).

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/1289221.html




http://www.meetup.com/members/7932824/


sven_nestle
Location:

Oakton, VA
Hometown: Fairfax, VA
Meetup member since:

August 27, 2008



Bio
not dating yet by choice - november I'd guess... But you can write :) I love to chat. I'm "sven_nestle" on http://www.datehookup.com/sven_nestle

Introduction

I'm new and hoping to be out soon. You'll hear it all if I get a drink in me no need starting yet ! Yes it says I'm not new but are records ever right?


http://sacramento.date.com/GetFullProfile.do?other_profile_id=11401755&no_user=rso

sven_nestle
Age: 43 - Oakton


http://disqus.com/sven_nestle/

Ah. Does that mean engaging with the expectation of rational discussion would be unreasonable?

Murder and only 12 months in jail? This is corruption at its worst. I hope this man is being sued in civil court for wrongful death. I want this little spic to lose everything and then die.

Tough One Wrote:
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> C+V are not your friends genius.

yes worst example of cut & paste I have seen in quite some time.

Irish community Wrote:
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> Murder and only 12 months in jail? This is
> corruption at its worst. I hope this man is being
> sued in civil court for wrongful death. I want
> this little spic to lose everything and then die.

He wasnt charged with murder you stupid fucking drunk.

Stabitha Wrote:
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> Irish community Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Murder and only 12 months in jail? This is
> > corruption at its worst. I hope this man is
> being
> > sued in civil court for wrongful death. I want
> > this little spic to lose everything and then
> die.
>
> He wasnt charged with murder you stupid fucking
> drunk.


No shit fat loser troll. He should have been charged with murder. After the civil trial is done maybe you can get him a job at Walmart where you,re loser ass works in the toy department.

Take it up with the DA needle dick

Irish community Wrote:
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> Stabitha Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Irish community Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Murder and only 12 months in jail? This is
> > > corruption at its worst. I hope this man is
> > being
> > > sued in civil court for wrongful death. I
> want
> > > this little spic to lose everything and then
> > die.
> >
> > He wasnt charged with murder you stupid fucking
> > drunk.
>
>
> No shit fat loser troll. He should have been
> charged with murder. After the civil trial is done
> maybe you can get him a job at Walmart where
> you,re loser ass works in the toy department.


Except that what he did was not murder, or manslaughter, or even malicious wounding. It wasn't legally any of those, and it wasn't, in fact, any of those. At least as far as we can tell. So unless you have a witness who saw the whole thing (there was one, the police could never find her), or a video other than the one above, then you're pretty much talking making stuff up.

EDIT: took out "doesn't".



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/25/2014 10:30PM by Kardinal.

I hope and pray this little spic gets the full 12 months inside our wonderful jail. He will get his ass kicked and raped by niggers. His life is ruined. Financially hes done. His whole family is done. Hopefully he commits suicide and saves his poor family the trouble he has caused them. Picking a fight with a 63 year old man? He is done when he is locked up with some real tough guys who will fuck him up daily. Have fun Librado.

Former sheriff Wrote:
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> Picking a fight with a 63 year old man?

1) He didn't pick a fight. He instigated an argument. Two different things.
2) Mr. Cena is 58 years old. Not exactly picking a fight with an old man when he's only 5 years older than you are.

So yeah. Facts are important.

Fuck you punk ass bitch. You can tell Librado to get used to taking it up his 58 year old sweet tight ass. He will also be sucking dicks and licking niggers assholes in his cell.

I would say at 58, his ass is probably going to be pretty loose. You take a lot of huge dumps by 58.

Taking a shit is different than getting a 9 inch black penis rammed inside you"re anal cavity. Crime dont pay. Dont think rapes dont happen at the county jail. They do and an asshole is an asshole.

Former sheriff Wrote:
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> Fuck you punk ass bitch. You can tell Librado to
> get used to taking it up his 58 year old sweet
> tight ass. He will also be sucking dicks and
> licking niggers assholes in his cell.

ooohhhh! tough guy, huh? No actual responses, just namecalling?

I see you've found the right web forum to say such things while hiding behind anonymity.

The dumbest people in the world post on this site.

I will be at the courthouse tomorrow toughguy. I am 6 feet tall with brown hair and will be wearing khaki pants with a blue blazer. I will be sitting in the front row. Please look for me and we can see who is hiding. I would love to take you to parking garage and "talk" if you know what I mean. When it is over you will be uglier than you are now.

Does anyone know the courtroom number for tomorrow mornings sentencing? I can go in to work late. I like courtrrom drama, especially when losers like Cena are sentenced. It makes me happy to see shitheads like him get put in handcuffs.

I don't know who hit who first, or who is "right" in this case, but I do know that the primary reason you people hate Cena is because his name is Hispanic. If you watch the interrogation, Cena is clearly at least second generation; he doesn't sound any more Hispanic than you or me. If this was a "white" guy, you'd be falling over yourself to claim self-defense.

Former sheriff Wrote:
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> I will be at the courthouse tomorrow toughguy. I
> am 6 feet tall with brown hair and will be wearing
> khaki pants with a blue blazer. I will be sitting
> in the front row. Please look for me and we can
> see who is hiding. I would love to take you to
> parking garage and "talk" if you know what I mean.
> When it is over you will be uglier than you are
> now.

So you're willing to fight, but you're not willing to even have a consistent account so people know what you say on the Internet? Some people have a very bizarre idea of courage.

PS - you still didn't actually answer my points. So I think we know who's trying to have a rational conversation, and who's just spouting off on the Internet.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2014 12:04AM by Kardinal.

Hmmm....

Me thinks Former Sheriff has experience taking it up the ass.

Luke Warmwater Wrote:
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> I would say at 58, his ass is probably going to be
> pretty loose. You take a lot of huge dumps by 58.

Are you a proctologist? Or just an expert on middle aged male asses?

Kardinal Wrote:
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> Former sheriff Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Picking a fight with a 63 year old man?
>
> 1) He didn't pick a fight. He instigated an
> argument. Two different things.
> 2) Mr. Cena is 58 years old. Not exactly picking
> a fight with an old man when he's only 5 years
> older than you are.
>
> So yeah. Facts are important.

I have to agree with WTOP this morning..."Mr. Cena went looking for a fight and got one."

Because he was charged with a misdemeanor and he likely has a clean record (no priors other than traffic citations), it is unlikely he will serve any jail time.

That Guy Wrote:
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> Because he was charged with a misdemeanor and he
> likely has a clean record (no priors other than
> traffic citations), it is unlikely he will serve
> any jail time.

Of course not, because it's okay for locusts to kill us.

vFxw3 Wrote:
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> Kardinal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Former sheriff Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Picking a fight with a 63 year old man?
> >
> > 1) He didn't pick a fight. He instigated an
> > argument. Two different things.
> > 2) Mr. Cena is 58 years old. Not exactly
> picking
> > a fight with an old man when he's only 5 years
> > older than you are.
> >
> > So yeah. Facts are important.
>
> I have to agree with WTOP this morning..."Mr. Cena
> went looking for a fight and got one."

Genuinely curious. Who said that on WTOP? Talkback line?

And why do you think he was looking for a fight? what, from what we know, leads you to conclude that?

Kardinal Wrote:
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> vFxw3 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Kardinal Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Former sheriff Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Picking a fight with a 63 year old man?
> > >
> > > 1) He didn't pick a fight. He instigated an
> > > argument. Two different things.
> > > 2) Mr. Cena is 58 years old. Not exactly
> > picking
> > > a fight with an old man when he's only 5
> years
> > > older than you are.
> > >
> > > So yeah. Facts are important.
> >
> > I have to agree with WTOP this morning..."Mr.
> Cena
> > went looking for a fight and got one."
>
> Genuinely curious. Who said that on WTOP?
> Talkback line?
>
> And why do you think he was looking for a fight?
> what, from what we know, leads you to conclude
> that?

Heard it on the radio this morning before 6am. To clarify I believe they were quoting something either one of the investigators said or someone in the court case. But I remember it well.

I do believe he was looking to get even though. Not sure if they necessarily means a fight. Personally, if this was my family I would sue the pants off of him in Civil Court.

vFxw3 Wrote:
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> Heard it on the radio this morning before 6am. To
> clarify I believe they were quoting something
> either one of the investigators said or someone in
> the court case. But I remember it well.
>
> I do believe he was looking to get even though.
> Not sure if they necessarily means a fight.
> Personally, if this was my family I would sue the
> pants off of him in Civil Court.

Fair enough.

I think honking at someone repeatedly should constitute assault!

He got what he deserved. While he didn't intend anything other than (at worst) a fist fight, you take your victims as they are.

Just because he died because of lack of clotting due to his medication, doesn't make the guy any less responsible for killing him.

GetM4th Wrote:
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> He got what he deserved. While he didn't intend
> anything other than (at worst) a fist fight, you
> take your victims as they are.
>
> Just because he died because of lack of clotting
> due to his medication, doesn't make the guy any
> less responsible for killing him.

What makes Mr. Cena less responsible for kiling Mr. O'Brien is that Mr. O'Brien *MAY* have initiated a physical battery first. We do not know, either to a legal standard or a moral standard. In short, you can't tell if Mr. Cena wanted a fight or not from the evidence. And you can't tell if Mr. Cena started the fight or not. Without evidence that he either wanted or actually did start a fight, it's not reasonable to conclude he was responsible for Mr. O'Brien's tragic death. It's just not logical. You can't conclude something without evidence to believe it, and it's just not there.

Which is why the jury found him not guilty of physically battering Mr. O'Brien. And I was there from the very beginning of the trial, and saw the motions the defense made to exclude evidence; they saw everything the prosecution wanted them to see. The only things excluded would have helped the defense, such the witness who was some of the altarcation, Mr. Huan's, who said in his *opinion* (take it for what it's worth) that Mr. O'Brien started the fight. Well, technically they heard it, as part of Detective Boone's testimony, but were instructed not to consider that aspect of it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2014 11:27AM by Kardinal.

Kardinal Wrote:
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> GetM4th Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He got what he deserved. While he didn't
> intend
> > anything other than (at worst) a fist fight,
> you
> > take your victims as they are.
> >
> > Just because he died because of lack of
> clotting
> > due to his medication, doesn't make the guy any
> > less responsible for killing him.
>
> What makes Mr. Cena less responsible for kiling
> Mr. O'Brien is that Mr. O'Brien *MAY* have
> initiated a physical battery first. We do not
> know, either to a legal standard or a moral
> standard. In short, you can't tell if Mr. Cena
> wanted a fight or not from the evidence. And you
> can't tell if Mr. Cena started the fight or not.
> Without evidence that he either wanted or actually
> did start a fight, it's not reasonable to conclude
> he was responsible for Mr. O'Brien's tragic death.
> It's just not logical. You can't conclude
> something without evidence to believe it, and it's
> just not there.
>
> Which is why the jury found him not guilty of
> physically battering Mr. O'Brien. And I was there
> from the very beginning of the trial, and saw the
> motions the defense made to exclude evidence; they
> saw everything the prosecution wanted them to see.
> The only things excluded would have helped the
> defense, such the witness who was some of the
> altarcation, Mr. Huan's, who said in his *opinion*
> (take it for what it's worth) that Mr. O'Brien
> started the fight. Well, technically they heard
> it, as part of Detective Boone's testimony, but
> were instructed not to consider that aspect of it.

Your missing the point. It doesn't matter who started it. Just who finished it. The common theory is that he didn't mean to kill him and who could have known he was on blood thinners, right?

There is a concept in the law of clean hands. If you don't have clean hands, then you are invariably responsible for what happens as a result of your "unclean" activity. Then you take your victims as you find them, with all of their inherent "faults".

You rob an old lady by grabbing her purse and run. She loses balance, falls and breaks her hip. She then dies of a hospital induced staff infection, you can theoretically (and it happens in practice) be held directly responsible for her death.

I am talking about generics here, not the specifics of the case you have been attending. I am merely saying he got what he deserved, because he killed someone accident or not.

I would offer this point up to the group...

What happens once he gets out of jail? I don't think his church will welcome him back with open arms. Even if they do, the congregation probably will not. Certainly not the public. I think his life is finished here (either in part or entirely) in this area.

Former sheriff Wrote:
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> I will be at the courthouse tomorrow toughguy. I
> am 6 feet tall with brown hair and will be wearing
> khaki pants with a blue blazer. I will be sitting
> in the front row. Please look for me and we can
> see who is hiding. I would love to take you to
> parking garage and "talk" if you know what I mean.
> When it is over you will be uglier than you are
> now.

You two are going to fight at the Courthouse?

Brilliant!

> Former sheriff Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will be at the courthouse tomorrow toughguy.
> I
> > am 6 feet tall with brown hair and will be
> wearing
> > khaki pants with a blue blazer.

Are you Jake from Statefarm?
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vFxw3 Wrote:
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> I do believe he was looking to get even though.
> Not sure if they necessarily means a fight.
> Personally, if this was my family I would sue the
> pants off of him in Civil Court.

What good is getting his pants? They probably arent even the right size for anyone in the family.

You honestly think the locust has any assets?

Luke Warmwater Wrote:
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> Former sheriff Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I will be at the courthouse tomorrow toughguy.
> I
> > am 6 feet tall with brown hair and will be
> wearing
> > khaki pants with a blue blazer. I will be
> sitting
> > in the front row. Please look for me and we can
> > see who is hiding. I would love to take you to
> > parking garage and "talk" if you know what I
> mean.
> > When it is over you will be uglier than you are
> > now.
>
> You two are going to fight at the Courthouse?
>
> Brilliant!

Heh. No. Not only do I not fight unless someone is an obvious and imminent threat to my or my family's safety (because anything else is illegal and immoral), but I could only take off one day of work to observe the trial. I wasn't there yesterday and can't be there today.

Kardinal Wrote:
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> Luke Warmwater Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Former sheriff Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I will be at the courthouse tomorrow
> toughguy.
> > I
> > > am 6 feet tall with brown hair and will be
> > wearing
> > > khaki pants with a blue blazer. I will be
> > sitting
> > > in the front row. Please look for me and we
> can
> > > see who is hiding. I would love to take you
> to
> > > parking garage and "talk" if you know what I
> > mean.
> > > When it is over you will be uglier than you
> are
> > > now.
> >
> > You two are going to fight at the Courthouse?
> >
> > Brilliant!
>
> Heh. No. Not only do I not fight unless someone is
> an obvious and imminent threat to my or my
> family's safety (because anything else is illegal
> and immoral), but I could only take off one day of
> work to observe the trial. I wasn't there
> yesterday and can't be there today.

C'mon Kardinal, you can take him. Just make sure to be 500 yards away from the security camera so they can't tell which blur is you. LOL

N9NL7 Wrote:
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> Kardinal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > Heh. No. Not only do I not fight unless someone
> is
> > an obvious and imminent threat to my or my
> > family's safety (because anything else is
> illegal
> > and immoral), but I could only take off one day
> of
> > work to observe the trial. I wasn't there
> > yesterday and can't be there today.
>
> C'mon Kardinal, you can take him. Just make sure
> to be 500 yards away from the security camera so
> they can't tell which blur is you. LOL


You're funny. No, I probably couldn't take him. I'm a bit bigger, as I'm over six feet, but I'm not a very experienced fighter because I don't fight. I'm not reluctant about getting caught; I'm reluctant because it's wrong to fight unless your bodily health is threatened. And while he may be a better fighter than I, I don't think he's an imminent threat to my health or well being. He's just a guy spouting nonsense on the Internet. If I felt threatened by those people, I'd be a very very scared man indeed. :)

No worries, someday we'll read on this forum how something ironic got Mr. Cena. Karma has a way of making things right in the end.