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Texting Drivers
Posted by: End Is near ()
Date: January 27, 2014 01:31PM

How come there are still some many people texting and driving in the county?

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: duhhhh ()
Date: January 27, 2014 01:43PM

who said they were texting?

maybe they were looking through their playlists on their iPod or looking for new game apps in Itunes or reading their emails or looking through their contact list?

everyone LOVES making the assumption that just because you're staring at your phone instead of the road you are immediately texting.

jeez.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Dr Dr ()
Date: January 27, 2014 01:47PM

duhhhh Wrote:
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> who said they were texting?
>
> maybe they were looking through their playlists on
> their iPod or looking for new game apps in Itunes
> or reading their emails or looking through their
> contact list?
>
> everyone LOVES making the assumption that just
> because you're staring at your phone instead of
> the road you are immediately texting.
>
> jeez.

Typing of any kind on a phone while driving in VA is illegal.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Abe Lincoln Navigator ()
Date: January 27, 2014 01:51PM

What about sending a text or accessing apps over your fancy new, in-dash iConnectinavigatainment touch screen?

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: OPneedstoGetaLife ()
Date: January 27, 2014 02:03PM

How am I supposed to use google maps on my phone without some prick thinking im texting? So it is ok to mess with a nav unit, but if Im doing the same thing on my phone its the end of the fucking world!

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: jose pedro jesus ()
Date: January 27, 2014 02:29PM

me come from Mehico...no hablo Inglés..me use my iphone for translate Inglés traffic sign to español

Viva Mehico !!

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: ....... ()
Date: January 27, 2014 02:57PM

More old people driving killed other people than I have texting.

Ban old people from the roads, and I'll stop.

Until then, eat a bag of dicks.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Def ()
Date: January 27, 2014 02:59PM

OPneedstoGetaLife Wrote:
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> How am I supposed to use google maps on my phone
> without some prick thinking im texting? So it is
> ok to mess with a nav unit, but if Im doing the
> same thing on my phone its the end of the fucking
> world!

You put your phone in voice command mode. All I have to say is "Google map XXX" and my phone asks me if I need directions etc...

I never touch the keyboard.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: My Balls Itch While Driving ()
Date: January 27, 2014 03:36PM

Let's all get drunk and text each other on the road!

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Texter ()
Date: January 27, 2014 03:58PM

Def Wrote:
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> OPneedstoGetaLife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How am I supposed to use google maps on my
> phone
> > without some prick thinking im texting? So it
> is
> > ok to mess with a nav unit, but if Im doing the
> > same thing on my phone its the end of the
> fucking
> > world!
>
> You put your phone in voice command mode. All I
> have to say is "Google map XXX" and my phone asks
> me if I need directions etc...
>
> I never touch the keyboard.


I think if you say "Google map XXX" as in your example it will bring up a bunch of porn, or at least show you where to find it nearby. Not necessarily a bad thing.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: LetsRock ()
Date: January 27, 2014 04:40PM

duhhhh Wrote:
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> who said they were texting?
>
> maybe they were looking through their playlists on
> their iPod or looking for new game apps in Itunes
> or reading their emails or looking through their
> contact list?
>
> everyone LOVES making the assumption that just
> because you're staring at your phone instead of
> the road you are immediately texting.
>
> jeez.




Even LOOKING at the display of your phone is considered "texting". You don't have to actually try to input anyting.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: LetsRock ()
Date: January 27, 2014 04:41PM

OPneedstoGetaLife Wrote:
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> How am I supposed to use google maps on my phone
> without some prick thinking im texting? So it is
> ok to mess with a nav unit, but if Im doing the
> same thing on my phone its the end of the fucking
> world!


You pull over, find you map, and then continue driving.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Reading Text ()
Date: January 27, 2014 04:55PM

LetsRock Wrote:
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> duhhhh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > who said they were texting?
> >
> > maybe they were looking through their playlists
> on
> > their iPod or looking for new game apps in
> Itunes
> > or reading their emails or looking through
> their
> > contact list?
> >
> > everyone LOVES making the assumption that just
> > because you're staring at your phone instead of
> > the road you are immediately texting.
> >
> > jeez.
>
>
>
>
> Even LOOKING at the display of your phone is
> considered "texting". You don't have to actually
> try to input anyting.


Yup!

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: bn ()
Date: January 27, 2014 04:59PM

With how shitty the traffic is around here, I'd be surprised to see someone get in an accident because of texting.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Fairfaxian ()
Date: January 27, 2014 05:11PM

> Even LOOKING at the display of your phone is
> considered "texting". You don't have to actually
> try to input anyting.

Not in Virginia. The offense requires that you be entering multiple characters as a means of communication or reading a text message or email.

See Va.Code s.46.2-1078.1: http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-1078.1

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: enraged evergreen ()
Date: January 27, 2014 05:16PM

Fairfaxian Wrote:

> Not in Virginia. The offense requires that you be
> entering multiple characters as a means of
> communication or reading a text message or email.
>
> See Va.Code s.46.2-1078.1:
> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+co
> d+46.2-1078.1


I like this guy. He actually posted some factual info, WITH a source!

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: LetsRock ()
Date: January 27, 2014 06:11PM

Fairfaxian Wrote:
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> > Even LOOKING at the display of your phone is
> > considered "texting". You don't have to
> actually
> > try to input anyting.
>
> Not in Virginia. The offense requires that you be
> entering multiple characters as a means of
> communication or reading a text message or email.
>
> See Va.Code s.46.2-1078.1:
> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+co
> d+46.2-1078.1


So I am correct. See the part about "reading a text message or email". That is what I mean by "looking at the display".

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: bunch of idiots ()
Date: January 27, 2014 10:59PM

and ted kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun!!!

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Fairfaxian ()
Date: January 28, 2014 08:02AM

LetsRock Wrote:
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> Fairfaxian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Even LOOKING at the display of your phone is
> > > considered "texting". You don't have to
> > actually
> > > try to input anyting.
> >
> > Not in Virginia. The offense requires that you
> be
> > entering multiple characters as a means of
> > communication or reading a text message or
> email.
> >
> > See Va.Code s.46.2-1078.1:
> >
> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+co
>
> > d+46.2-1078.1
>
>
> So I am correct. See the part about "reading a
> text message or email". That is what I mean by
> "looking at the display".


First of all, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter whether what you thought in your head was actually correct; it matters that what you said is incorrect and misleading, as written.

If "reading a text message or email" was what you meant, that's what you should have said. That is not legally or practically equivalent to the original statement: "even LOOKING at the display of your phone is considered texting."

First: There are plenty of reasons beyond "reading a text message or email" to look at your phone's display (checking your weather app, monitoring your GPS app, checking to see if your car's clock is running fast or slow, playing Angry Birds, etc.). Those things are not covered by that statute. Therefore, nothing about your statement "even LOOKING at the display of your phone is considered texting" was correct. It misstates the law and misstates the culpability of someone who's checking to see if it's going to rain later.

You might counter that it's feasible that a driver who was distracted by a non-text, non-email app on his or her phone might be charged under another statute (perhaps Virginia's general reckless driving provision, s.46.2-852, http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-852), and maybe that's right. However, it doesn't implicate the "texting" statute, so saying that it "is considered texting" is not accurate, either.

I'm not saying you're dumb or bad. I was just trying to clarify a (certainly unintentionally) misleading statement you made.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: LetsRock ()
Date: January 28, 2014 08:16AM

Fairfaxian Wrote:
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> LetsRock Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fairfaxian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > > Even LOOKING at the display of your phone
> is
> > > > considered "texting". You don't have to
> > > actually
> > > > try to input anyting.
> > >
> > > Not in Virginia. The offense requires that
> you
> > be
> > > entering multiple characters as a means of
> > > communication or reading a text message or
> > email.
> > >
> > > See Va.Code s.46.2-1078.1:
> > >
> >
> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+co
>
> >
> > > d+46.2-1078.1
> >
> >
> > So I am correct. See the part about "reading a
> > text message or email". That is what I mean by
> > "looking at the display".
>
>
> First of all, you're missing the point. It
> doesn't matter whether what you thought in your
> head was actually correct; it matters that what
> you said is incorrect and misleading, as written.
>
> If "reading a text message or email" was what you
> meant, that's what you should have said. That is
> not legally or practically equivalent to the
> original statement: "even LOOKING at the display
> of your phone is considered texting."
>
> First: There are plenty of reasons beyond
> "reading a text message or email" to look at your
> phone's display (checking your weather app,
> monitoring your GPS app, checking to see if your
> car's clock is running fast or slow, playing Angry
> Birds, etc.). Those things are not covered by
> that statute. Therefore, nothing about your
> statement "even LOOKING at the display of your
> phone is considered texting" was correct. It
> misstates the law and misstates the culpability of
> someone who's checking to see if it's going to
> rain later.
>
> You might counter that it's feasible that a driver
> who was distracted by a non-text, non-email app on
> his or her phone might be charged under another
> statute (perhaps Virginia's general reckless
> driving provision, s.46.2-852,
> http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+co
> d+46.2-852), and maybe that's right. However, it
> doesn't implicate the "texting" statute, so saying
> that it "is considered texting" is not accurate,
> either.
>
> I'm not saying you're dumb or bad. I was just
> trying to clarify a (certainly unintentionally)
> misleading statement you made.


Fair enough. I classify "looking" the same as "reading". I should have been more clear.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Eye in Sky ()
Date: January 28, 2014 03:32PM

You shouldn't even be reading texts while driving. That means your eyes are not on the road.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: Fairfaxian ()
Date: January 28, 2014 05:31PM

Eye in Sky Wrote:
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> You shouldn't even be reading texts while driving.
> That means your eyes are not on the road.

You're exactly right, which is why that's illegal.

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Re: Texting Drivers
Posted by: 0tter ()
Date: January 29, 2014 10:32AM

Hey. It's all legal at a red light.

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