Re: Jihad hits NOVA - imam calls on Muslims in US to wage jihad
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XYGe3
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Date: April 23, 2013 02:11PM
pD4TD Wrote:
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> I do have a point. Many people, like the author of
> the article posted, misconstrue the true meaning
> of those two words. They rely on the definitions
> put forth by Pamela Geller or Fox News, which
> screams credibility.
>
> If they knew the true meaning of Jihad, they would
> understand that it doesnt mean killing innocent
> people.
>
> This line is the best "The mosque’s name,
> al-Hijrah, refers to the Islamic strategy of using
> migrants to gradually expand Islam into new
> territories."
>
> No. Hijrah refers to when the prophet led his
> followers from Mecca to Medinah. and Dar al Hijrah
> basically translates to "House of refuge".
>
> So my point is, no, you don't know what those
> words mean.
Awww... bullshit. Some Americans aren't as stupid as you seem to believe. Because it is not the literal meaning does not change the practical implications nor the way in which he used the term. In the same way that Americans use various terms with implied meanings. Someone getting up after him and waving their hands and saying "he was just kidding" in an attempt to do PR damage control doesn't change what was said and meant.
Are you denying that there is a significant movement to establish a de facto "caliphate" via assimilation by groups like Hizb ut-Tahrir and e.g., the London and Scandinavian settlements?
And "refuge" for whom?
Imams
Mohammed al-Hanooti
The mosque's Imam from 1995–99 was Mohammed al-Hanooti, born in Haifa, British Mandate of Palestine.[10] He spoke up for Mousa Mohammed Abu Marzook, who was deported in 1997 and indicted years later on charges of arranging financial support for Hamas, which the U.S. views as a terrorist organization.[11] In 1998, al-Hanooti criticized President Clinton for ordering U.S. military strikes in Sudan and Afghanistan, saying there was not enough convincing evidence to justify the violence.[12] In 1999 he testified in support of Ihab M. Ali, who refused to testify before a grand jury investigating the 1998 United States embassy bombings, telling the federal judge that Islamic law "gives him the right to abstain from giving testimony in case it hurts him or it hurts any other Muslim."[13] Al-Hanooti was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.[14][15]
Anwar al-Awlaki, October 2008
Anwar al-Awlaki was Imam at the mosque between January 2001 and April 2002.[16] Fluent in English, known for giving eloquent talks on Islam, and with a mandate to attract young non-Arabic speakers, al-Awlaki "was the magic bullet," according to mosque spokesman Johari Abdul-Malik; "he had everything all in a box."[5] "He had an allure. He was charming."[17]
He has been accused since of being a senior al-Qaeda recruiter and motivator linked to various terrorists, including three 9/11 hijackers, the accused Fort Hood shooter, and the accused Christmas Day 2009 bomber.[18][19][20] Supporters of the mosque say that al-Awlaki publicly condemned the 9/11 attacks, and was not known to give radical speeches at the time.[21] But writing on the IslamOnline.net website six days after the 9/11 attacks, he suggested that Israeli intelligence agents might have been responsible for the attacks, and that the FBI "went into the roster of the airplanes and whoever has a Muslim or Arab name became the hijacker by default."[22]
Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf Al-Hazmi set up their base of operations in San Diego upon their arrival in the US with the assistance of a number of people who were later investigated by the FBI and press.[23] They established a close relationship with Awlaki, who had been Imam of the Masjid Ar-Ribat al-Islami mosque since 1996.[22][24][25][26][27] After leaving San Diego and Arizona in 2001 and moving to Falls Church, Virginia, Hani Hanjour specified the Virginia mosque in Falls Church as his forwarding mailing address.[28] He and Al-Hazmi attended Awlaki's sermons at the Virginia mosque. The 9/11 Commission Report, prepared after the attacks had taken place, concluded the men's appearances at Al-Alwaki's mosque "may not have been coincidental". The Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan attended the mosque for the funeral of his mother in May 2001, likely arranged by his brother who lived in Virginia.[29] For ten years, Hasan regularly attended a mosque in Silver Spring, Maryland, closer to where he lived and worked.[30][31][27][32] "In my view, he is more than a coincidental figure," said House Intelligence Committee member Representative Anna Eshoo (D-CA) in 2003.[33]
The mosque board member Esam Omeish was reported by the Washington Post as having been one of the mosque officials who hired al-Awlaki (Paul Sperry says he "personally" hired him).[34][35] Omeish said in 2004 that he was convinced that al-Awlaki: "has no inclination or active involvement in any events or circumstances that have to do with terrorism."[5]
On April 6, 2010, The New York Times reported that President Obama had authorized the targeted killing of al-Awlaki, the first time such an order had been made against an American citizen.[36][37]
Johari Abdul-Malik
Brooklyn-born convert-to-Islam Imam Johari Abdul-Malik has been the mosque's Director of Outreach since June 2002. Speaking on his role at the mosque, he said:
“It’s important that there’s an American at the mosque to speak with media, to defend Islam, who can talk about the rights of Muslims. It would be difficult for us if we had an imam who didn’t understand the process here.”[38]
During his tenure at Dar Al-Hijrah, Abdul-Malik has commented publicly on Islamic affairs on the criminal cases of several American Muslims. Abdul-Malik spoke up in 2003 in defense of Abdul Rahman al-Amoudi, founder of the American Muslim Council, who was indicted on charges of engaging in illegal financial transactions with Libya.[39] However, in 2004 al-Amoudi pled guilty to financial and conspiracy charges, and was sentenced to 23 year in jail.[40]
When Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, who worshiped and taught Islamic studies at Dar Al-Hijrah, for which he also was a camp counselor, was charged by U.S. prosecutors with plotting with members of al-Qaeda to assassinate President George W. Bush, Abdul-Malik said in February 2005: "Our whole community is under siege. They don't see this as a case of criminality. They see it as a civil rights case. As a frontal attack on their community." He added: "The feeling I get here on a daily basis must be what it was like to be a member of Martin Luther King Jr.'s church following the case of Rosa Parks. People always ask, 'What is the latest from the courthouse?'"[41] Abdul-Malik accused the government of singling out Abu Ali to stir anti-Muslim sentiment.[42] Abu Ali was convicted in 2005 of providing material support to the al-Qaeda terrorist network, and conspiracy to assassinate President Bush, and is serving a life sentence.[43][44] When in April 2005 Ali al-Timimi of Fairfax, Virginia, an American-born Muslim cleric, was convicted of inciting followers to wage war against the US just days after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and of recruiting for the Pakistani terrorist organization Lashkar-e-Toiba, and the paintball terrorist cell, Abdul-Malik said: "There is a view many Muslims have when they come to America that you could not be arrested for something you say. But now they have discovered they are not free to speak their minds. And if our opinions are out of vogue in the current climate, we feel we are all at risk."[45][46] Al-Timimi was sentenced to life imprisonment.
After the July 2005 London bombings that killed 55 people, a 30-second anti-terrorism public service TV spot was run called “Not in the Name of Islam,” featuring Abdul-Malik and two American Muslim women.[47] And in January 2008, Abdul-Malik was trying to establish a nationwide movement of Muslim men to lobby for the new interpretation of Chapter 4, Verse 34 of the Koran, long interpreted as giving husbands the right to beat their wives as the final step in an escalating series of punishments for being rebellious (following admonishing their wives, and then abandoning them in bed).[48] “That is the linchpin, the fulcrum that justifies domestic violence in the Muslim context,” he said. The new interpretation would interpret the verse as calling for women to be obedient to God.[49]
In November 2009, Abdul-Malik responded to al-Awlaki's support of the Fort Hood shooter by saying:
"Al-Awlaqi ... supported the crime that Hasan committed and said that the US Muslims who opposed the crime have betrayed the Muslim ummah (the community of Muslims worldwide) and are hypocrites. I answer him by saying that he has thus separated himself from the Muslim community in the United States. The holy Koran teaches us that we as US Muslims should enrich the society we live in with humanitarian services, wisdom, teaching God's beautiful verses about love, mercy, and compassion to all mankind."
Abdul-Malik went on to say that, of those who worshiped at the mosque and had discussed the Fort Hood shootings,
"Many of the immigrants focused on the conspiracy theory. Some said that Hasan did not commit the crime, but that it was committed by other US military personnel who then killed him and said that he was the one who did it. They are like those who said that the September 11 attacks were not committed by those who committed them, and that it too was a “conspiracy.” I am one of those whose ancestors came here hundreds of years ago. I am a black American, and I know that “denial” is the explanation of those who cannot explain what they see or hear, especially if they belong to a minority group and are not used to the US way of life. But we black Americans have passed these stages. We became involved in political action, and the President of the United States is now one of us. Perhaps I am saying what I am saying because I was a Christian, and became Muslim. But I believe that this issue is a temporary one, and we ask God to raise us from one stage to another."[50]
Mohammed Adam El-Sheikh
Sheikh Mohammed Adam El-Sheikh, formerly a Muslim Brotherhood member in the Sudan, and one of the founders of both the mosque and the Muslim American Society (MAS), was the mosque's Imam between August 2003 and May 2005. He left the mosque to become the executive director of the Fiqh Council of North America, an association of Islamic legal scholars.[5][51]
Commenting in 2004 on the beheadings of American hostages Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, he said:
"beheadings are not mentioned in the Koran at all. According to Islamic penal law, killers will be sentenced to death, but the means of execution are not mentioned. ...we don't condone this. They are not following Islam. They are following their own whims."[52]
And in 2004, speaking of Palestinian suicide bombers he said "if certain Muslims are to be cornered where they cannot defend themselves, except through these kinds of means, and their local religious leaders issued fatwas to permit that, then it becomes acceptable as an exceptional rule, but should not be taken as a principle."[5]
Shaker Elsayed
A Shariah law scholar born in Cairo, Egypt, has been the resident imam at Dar Al-Hijrah since June 1, 2005.[53] From 2000 through 2005 he was the Secretary General of the Muslim American Society.[54]
Elsayed served as an unofficial spokesman for the family of Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, who had worshiped at Dar Al-Hijrah, and was charged with plotting to assassinate President Bush. Elsayed said the case against Abu Ali was based on a confession to Saudi authorities he termed "laughable,"[55] and Elsayed accused the Justice Department of unfairly targeting Abu Ali and other young Muslims for prosecution.[56][57][57] Abu Ali was convicted, and sentenced to life in prison.[58]