Has anyone else been wrongfully harassed by GMU police? I am sick of being tailed and followed constantly. Had a headlight out, almost got a DUI the other night -for being tired. What is the hiring process they have to go through, and what gives them the right to pull people over on Braddock rd. Who could we complain to? Anyway, in the mean time, be very careful driving the stretch of Braddock in front of Mason. I will not even go to University Mall at night anymore.

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They have the same hiring process everyone else does though being a university police department theyre much more interested in diversity quotas of late than other departments may be.

The biggest issue though is theyre just bored out of their minds all the time. Mason isnt exactly a crime ridden campus during the school year and now with school out they have absolutely nothing to do. Their jurisdiction is very confined around Mason and most days they have more cops on duty than crimes reported some days not having any.

In other words get your lights fixed and any excuse you give them to look into you they will take

I'm glad that the GMU police stop people that are driving defective vehicles in a manner that resembles drunkeness.

Go GMUPD!

A concerned citizen Wrote:
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> Has anyone else been wrongfully harassed by GMU
> police? I am sick of being tailed and followed
> constantly. Had a headlight out, almost got a DUI
> the other night -for being tired. What is the
> hiring process they have to go through, and what
> gives them the right to pull people over on
> Braddock rd. Who could we complain to? Anyway, in
> the mean time, be very careful driving the stretch
> of Braddock in front of Mason. I will not even go
> to University Mall at night anymore.


Shit for brains does what?

Already got my light fixed. It was out for one day. I do not drink, rarely smoke. He said he smelled something suspicious, complete bullshit. So they have the right to administrator five different sobriety test? Mind you i am 30, never been arrested in my life, & showed no sign's of impairment. This is not the first time i have been harassed by them, and certainly not the first person to be targeted. I was just wondering if they hire with the same scrutiny as REAL cops, & if it is possible as a collective, to stop their ability to pull people over, off Mason property.

@Kudos - Nobody likes people that say things, just for sake of disagreeing. If you don't have anything useful to add to the topic, shut your worthless mouth. Find something else to troll.

Still concerned Wrote:
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> Already got my light fixed. It was out for one
> day. I do not drink, rarely smoke. He said he
> smelled something suspicious, complete bullshit.
> So they have the right to administrator five
> different sobriety test? Mind you i am 30, never
> been arrested in my life, & showed no sign's of
> impairment. This is not the first time i have been
> harassed by them, and certainly not the first
> person to be targeted. I was just wondering if
> they hire with the same scrutiny as REAL cops, &
> if it is possible as a collective, to stop their
> ability to pull people over, off Mason property.


Yes they have the right to administer the sobriety tests.

They have the right to pull people over on the roads that go directly by Mason as well.

If you want you can complain to Mason itself and if they get enough complaints Mason will say something to them other than that either run for the State AG office if you want control over them or just avoid them.

A concerned citizen Wrote:
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> Has anyone else been wrongfully harassed by GMU
> police? I am sick of being tailed and followed
> constantly. Had a headlight out, almost got a DUI
> the other night -for being tired. What is the
> hiring process they have to go through, and what
> gives them the right to pull people over on
> Braddock rd. Who could we complain to? Anyway, in
> the mean time, be very careful driving the stretch
> of Braddock in front of Mason. I will not even go
> to University Mall at night anymore.

GM police lol. You have to of worked as a mall flashlight cop and failed all other applications as a real cop in every surounding county and city to be hired. FFX told them a while ago to keep their policing within geoge mason. A lot a cases have been chucked by the courts when it comes to them off campus.

I live off Braddock, next to Mason - So it is a little annoying to avoid them - but yes, now i just go down Robert's to the parkway. I was really trying to help other people out, who i constantly see pulled over. Oh well, i tried. It is sad we have to live in ever more totalitarian police state. Only going to get worse, as technology moves forward.

Still concerned Wrote:
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> Already got my light fixed. It was out for one
> day. I do not drink, rarely smoke. He said he
> smelled something suspicious, complete bullshit.
> So they have the right to administrator five
> different sobriety test? Mind you i am 30, never
> been arrested in my life, & showed no sign's of
> impairment. This is not the first time i have been
> harassed by them, and certainly not the first
> person to be targeted. I was just wondering if
> they hire with the same scrutiny as REAL cops, &
> if it is possible as a collective, to stop their
> ability to pull people over, off Mason property.
>
> @Kudos - Nobody likes people that say things, just
> for sake of disagreeing. If you don't have
> anything useful to add to the topic, shut your
> worthless mouth. Find something else to troll.

I'm sure you feel like you're a victim, but everybody that I've ever known that had repeated run-ins with the law were fuck-ups. They did shit that attracted the cops. Sounds like you fit the mold.

In contrast, I have been driving for 44 years and have NEVER, not once, been stopped by the cops. What do I know that you don't know?

Maybe I didn't say it clearly enough for you. I have been pulled over ONE time by Mason. The other four times i have been harassed, but they did not pull me over. We pass each other, they speed up, and then proceed to take the quickest U-turn, tail me all the way to Shirley Gate, then pull off. I do not do anything to garner unwanted attention. NO TINT ON MY WINDOWS, NO CUSTOM PLATES, NO LOUD MUSIC, NO 20 INCH RIMS, I AM WHITE, and It usually happens when i am on my way to work, wearing collared shirts. So i am guilty of being young and working early in the mourning, that is about it. If you have never been pulled over in 44 years, you are simply lucky.

I hope the GMU police find and beat you down for being so stupid.

Still concerned Wrote:
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> Already got my light fixed. It was out for one
> day. I do not drink, rarely smoke. He said he
> smelled something suspicious, complete bullshit.
> So they have the right to administrator five
> different sobriety test? Mind you i am 30, never
> been arrested in my life, & showed no sign's of
> impairment. This is not the first time i have been
> harassed by them, and certainly not the first
> person to be targeted. I was just wondering if
> they hire with the same scrutiny as REAL cops, &
> if it is possible as a collective, to stop their
> ability to pull people over, off Mason property.
>
> @Kudos - Nobody likes people that say things, just
> for sake of disagreeing. If you don't have
> anything useful to add to the topic, shut your
> worthless mouth. Find something else to troll.


You could have refused the test. I would never take any test, especially if I had not been drinking.

Here ya go..............

10 Rules for Dealing with Police (Full-Length)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nQ_mFJV4I

VhPKw Wrote:
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> A concerned citizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Has anyone else been wrongfully harassed by GMU
> > police? I am sick of being tailed and followed
> > constantly. Had a headlight out, almost got a
> DUI
> > the other night -for being tired. What is the
> > hiring process they have to go through, and
> what
> > gives them the right to pull people over on
> > Braddock rd. Who could we complain to? Anyway,
> in
> > the mean time, be very careful driving the
> stretch
> > of Braddock in front of Mason. I will not even
> go
> > to University Mall at night anymore.
>
>
> Shit for brains does what?

If a cop has a reasonable suspicion that you are intoxicated, he can administrer as many field sobriety tests as he sees fit. GMU PD, just like any other VA PD has concurrent jurisdiction within 300 yards of their line. So, no, there is nothing you can do to prevent them from pulling you over on Braddock. Stop giving them a reason... oh, and grow the fuck up.

You are totally wrong. You are not required to perform any field sobriety tests or blow into any PBT device on the roadside. Those tests are voluntary. The only test required after being informed of VA's implied consent law is on the machine at the station. It amazes me how many people voluntarily do the roadside tests and then refuse the ECIRII. That's backwards.

Another symptom of the Fairfax County Police state we live in. GMU cops are worthless and should not be allowed to patrol outside of the campus. They are nothing but security guards and babysitters, it is ridiculous that they have jurisdiction outside of GMU. Obviously they have nothing to do, we need to lend our GMU boys in blue to DC, so they can get a taste of real police work.

TheySuck Wrote:
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> Another symptom of the Fairfax County Police state
> we live in. GMU cops are worthless and should not
> be allowed to patrol outside of the campus. They
> are nothing but security guards and babysitters,
> it is ridiculous that they have jurisdiction
> outside of GMU. Obviously they have nothing to do,
> we need to lend our GMU boys in blue to DC, so
> they can get a taste of real police work.


GMU cops are sworn law enforcement officers and they have a right and a duty to enforce law anywhere in the state of Virginia.

former deputy Wrote:
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> TheySuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another symptom of the Fairfax County Police
> state
> > we live in. GMU cops are worthless and should
> not
> > be allowed to patrol outside of the campus.
> They
> > are nothing but security guards and
> babysitters,
> > it is ridiculous that they have jurisdiction
> > outside of GMU. Obviously they have nothing to
> do,
> > we need to lend our GMU boys in blue to DC, so
> > they can get a taste of real police work.
>
>
> GMU cops are sworn law enforcement officers and
> they have a right and a duty to enforce law
> anywhere in the state of Virginia.

Wrong answer chief.

"GMU cops are sworn law enforcement officers and they have a right and a duty to enforce law anywhere in the state of Virginia". Why do they have this power? Just more of the post 9-11 cop hysteria. Screw them, they are glorified baby sitters, nothing else.

PeoplesPoliceState Wrote:
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> "GMU cops are sworn law enforcement officers and
> they have a right and a duty to enforce law
> anywhere in the state of Virginia". Why do they
> have this power? Just more of the post 9-11 cop
> hysteria. Screw them, they are glorified baby
> sitters, nothing else.

They don't, just as a FFX County cop has no authority in Loudoun County.

"You are totally wrong. You are not required to perform any field sobriety tests or blow into any PBT device on the roadside. Those tests are voluntary. The only test required after being informed of VA's implied consent law is on the machine at the station. It amazes me how many people voluntarily do the roadside tests and then refuse the ECIRII. That's backwards."



100% correct.

The last time I was stopped by local police...they said I was "swerving." (I wasn't; I hadn't had anything at all to drink). They wanted me to do all the bullshit walking toe-to-heel, etc, and I politely stated that those were considered "voluntary" tests, I wasn't going to do them, and that I would simply like to cut to the chase and perform the breath test so I could be on my way.

Of course they had to teach me a lesson...the cop claimed the first machine didn't work, and they'd have to get another officer to come by with another machine...fine...waste taxpayer resources even further...I remained polite and cooperative the whole time.

Another cruiser finally arrived with another machine...a third cruiser stopped by just for the hell of it, I guess. Everyone seemed so disappointed that I had no alcohol on board, and I was reluctantly allowed to go on my way.

Bottom line...fingers to nose, walking heel to toe, saying the alphabet backwards (which I can't begin to do stone sober), all voluntary...

Its become a police state. Never testify against yourself to a cop. If they stop you ask why. If they ask you have you been drinking, ask the nature of their inquiry. If they say they suspect you of a crime (they have to do this) tell them you invoke your rights under the 5th amendment not to give evidence against yourself. This is true with speeding to - dont tell them anything. If they proceed they proceed. If they write you a citation be polite and ask them if you are free to go.

They stopped you they are getting in your business. You have the right to get away from them and back to your business as soon as practical. Dont volunteer anything and ask them if you are free to go if you get a citation. Get out of there.

Also sounds like you are getting profiled. The type of car you have, the condition of the car, stickers on the car and of course the light out. Clean it up. Take any stickers (including the ones saying you support the cops), dress nice. Its a police state so be prepared.

I call BS on this, if they pulled you over and they said you were swerving then you probably were.

I call BS on this, if they pulled you over and they said you were swerving then you probably were.


You can call BS all day. I was there, I wasn't swerving. It was late at night, the cop was fishing, and he happened to get a sober person who was driving a minivan home from work.

I was polite and cooperative the entire time, and just wanted to get on my way.

The funny thing is, I knew when I posted this that some troll like you would chime in saying the police can do no wrong.

Thank you for being so predictable.

So If i refuse the field sobriety test, wouldn't they just take me to the station for a blood test? I would have failed that. I had to make sure they did not take it that far. I still passed the the five different test they gave me.

@Temperance Man -I did not think i could do sober either, but i got lucky.

One more thing to add, he was not a complete dick, or i would have gone to jail. He had me if he wanted me.

still concerned Wrote:
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> So If i refuse the field sobriety test, wouldn't
> they just take me to the station for a blood test?
> I would have failed that. I had to make sure they
> did not take it that far. I still passed the the
> five different test they gave me.
>
> @Temperance Man -I did not think i could do sober
> either, but i got lucky.
>
> One more thing to add, he was not a complete dick,
> or i would have gone to jail. He had me if he
> wanted me.


Ok...so you would not have passed a blood test? So you had been drinking or doing drugs then? But you are complaining because you got pulled over for weaving?

No, you got two different people mixed up. I had a headlight out, no swerving. I just had major surgery, so i had pain pills in my system. He said he smelled something suspicious. Which was 100% not possible. I was not even saying he was completely wrong. You missed the point of this post. They should have to follow the law, not make things up. I was lucky, and it will not happen to ME again. However, i see people pulled over every night, i am sure they are not all as fortunate as me. THIS IS ABOUT THE AUTHORITY OF CAMPUS POLICE ON NON-CAMPUS ROADS. If it was county, city, or state - i would not even be complaining.

I was a victim of unecessary GMU PD harrassent when I went there way back when. They are on a power trip and always feel the need to flex their muscles to feed their inferority complex as none of them were good enough to get into the many local or federal law enforcement opportunities. Funny to hear that things have not changed up for the losers at all!!

Still concerned Wrote:
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> No, you got two different people mixed up. I had a
> headlight out, no swerving. I just had major
> surgery, so i had pain pills in my system. He said
> he smelled something suspicious. Which was 100%
> not possible. I was not even saying he was
> completely wrong. You missed the point of this
> post. They should have to follow the law, not make
> things up. I was lucky, and it will not happen to
> ME again. However, i see people pulled over every
> night, i am sure they are not all as fortunate as
> me. THIS IS ABOUT THE AUTHORITY OF CAMPUS POLICE
> ON NON-CAMPUS ROADS. If it was county, city, or
> state - i would not even be complaining.


My bad. You are right. Got the different posts mixed up.

And I agree with you, I don't think they should be of off the school property. Maybe when I get to be the governor I will change this rule. BUT in the mean time they get to patrol the streets that surround the campus which includes Braddock. And the school property goes way down Braddock road.

still concerned Wrote:
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> So If i refuse the field sobriety test, wouldn't
> they just take me to the station for a blood test?
> I would have failed that. I had to make sure they
> did not take it that far. I still passed the the
> five different test they gave me.
>
> @Temperance Man -I did not think i could do sober
> either, but i got lucky.
>
> One more thing to add, he was not a complete dick,
> or i would have gone to jail. He had me if he
> wanted me.

You got lucky - once he has you dancing around in the dark he can report anything he wants about you and its your word against his. You could an Olympic class floor routine and he could say you looked drunk thus more evidence against you and probable cause for the breathalizer.

A female officer gave me a ticket for a dangerous turn coming out of a Univ Mall Giant around 11pm when there were practically no cars on route 123. She was at the Braddock/Ox rd intersection waiting for the light while I was turned and headed south on Ox. She seemed disappointed that it wasn't a DUI but I kinda sensed that she was having a bad day. In any case GMU cops should be patroling inside the university not it's surrounding neighborhoods. I see lots other stops by GMU cops outside of the univ property.

PeoplesPoliceState Wrote:
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> "GMU cops are sworn law enforcement officers and
> they have a right and a duty to enforce law
> anywhere in the state of Virginia". Why do they
> have this power? Just more of the post 9-11 cop
> hysteria. Screw them, they are glorified baby
> sitters, nothing else.


Any citizen who is not on parole, in Prison or who is a ward of the state has the authority and the duty to enforce the laws of the state of Virginia. Campus cops are no different.

GMU cops are the biggest POS cop since Herndon cops. The worst thing to ever happen to that stupid commuter school is making it to the final four. Now that ugly school thinks its big shit forever and the pigs that patrol are ona power trip because of it

I am not surprised to see they are still shitty.

Back in the late 80's when I attended, I had two run ins with them. Unprofessional.

Once I was coming back from a party with my GF and one pulled us over. He said I was speeding (untrue, since that part has speed bumps, and they had no radar guns). He looked over and saw my baseball bat between the seats. He asked me what it was for. I said self defense. He said wrong answer, then reached into the car across me (WTF???) and pulled it out and tossed it 10 yards into the grass. He then says you should have told me it was for baseball. I said okay..next time the police pull me over, I will tell them you told me to lie to them. That caught him off guard and pissed him off. He then proceeded to ask us both to exit the car and took my GF purse and looked through it, pulling out her birth control pills. Wish I was up on my rights back then, so I could have given him hell, but I was a kid, who had a modicum of respect for the law. Then he took a quick look through the car and let us go, with no warning or ticket, but gave me back my bat.

What an ass. Reached across me into the car. I could have stabbed him. He was just being an arrogant prick. Didn't even give us a ticket.

Another time, I was living in the off campus GMU town houses and was going to go to 7-11. I came out and there was a CP car double parked, blocking me in. Damn! I waited about 10 minutes and nothing. I then got pissed and said fuck it and hopped up on the hood and sat waiting for him. Another 10 minutes went by and a girl looked out of the front door of one of the town houses and quickly ducked back in. 10 seconds later the CP came out and asked me what I was doing? I told him I have been waiting for 20 minutes for him to move as he's double parked. He told me that I shouldn't be sitting on his car and I should have come and got him. I told him, he shouldn't be double parked and how the hell would I know where he was to get him?? Didn't have a good answer to either. He said again that I can't sit on his car, and I said again, you can't double park and go about your business visiting people. He left and at no time said he was on a call. He was just visiting some student ass he wanted to get in.

I made a complaint with the office and they said I shouldn't be sitting on the car. Deja-vu???? I told him he shouldn't be double parked if he isn't on a call. Never heard anything about it again, but every time that CP saw me, he gave me the dirty eye, so he got spoken to about it at least.

These guys are just police wannabes who were bullied as kids.

I see nothing has changed since I was there except no mention of the student brownshirts they hired to aggressively write parking tickets in nearly empty faculty lots after hours. Just continues to give me reason to throw the Alumni donation requests away.

Liberal Logic 09 Wrote:
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> They have the same hiring process everyone else
> does though being a university police department
> theyre much more interested in diversity quotas of
> late than other departments may be.
>
> The biggest issue though is theyre just bored out
> of their minds all the time. Mason isnt exactly a
> crime ridden campus during the school year and now
> with school out they have absolutely nothing to
> do. Their jurisdiction is very confined around
> Mason and most days they have more cops on duty
> than crimes reported some days not having any.
>
> In other words get your lights fixed and any
> excuse you give them to look into you they will
> take

Same hiring standards? The hire people AFTER they've been fired from other places for lying. I guess GMU doesn't understand that a liar can't testify in court.

They are pretty active off campus and well respected by the community.

truther Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 09 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > They have the same hiring process everyone else
> > does though being a university police
> department
> > theyre much more interested in diversity quotas
> of
> > late than other departments may be.
> >
> > The biggest issue though is theyre just bored
> out
> > of their minds all the time. Mason isnt exactly
> a
> > crime ridden campus during the school year and
> now
> > with school out they have absolutely nothing to
> > do. Their jurisdiction is very confined around
> > Mason and most days they have more cops on duty
> > than crimes reported some days not having any.
> >
> > In other words get your lights fixed and any
> > excuse you give them to look into you they will
> > take
>
> Same hiring standards? The hire people AFTER
> they've been fired from other places for lying. I
> guess GMU doesn't understand that a liar can't
> testify in court.

Hence I said PROCESS not standards. Theyre far more interested in diversity than finding the best candidate.

Bump!