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More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: V 4 Vendetta ()
Date: May 06, 2013 01:28PM

Take a look…

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/zoningordinance/proposed/civilpenalties.pdf

The County's Enforcement Department wants civil fines, criminal fines and enforcement warrants.

It is not for them to say what they want-the government serves the people and not the other way around.

Let your County supervisor, and also Supervisor-at-Large Bulova know that this type of thing is a very quick road to not being (re)elected.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Terrible! ()
Date: May 06, 2013 01:40PM

V 4 Vendetta Wrote:
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> Take a look…
>
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpz/zoningordinance/p
> roposed/civilpenalties.pdf
>
> The County's Enforcement Department wants civil
> fines, criminal fines and enforcement warrants.
>
> It is not for them to say what they want-the
> government serves the people and not the other way
> around.
>
> Let your County supervisor, and also
> Supervisor-at-Large Bulova know that this type of
> thing is a very quick road to not being
> (re)elected.

Geez, they are so out of control!

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: yes out of control ()
Date: May 06, 2013 01:45PM

Yes, they are out of control. Under a newly passed law you can't store anything outside unless it is in an enclosed space and not visible from the 1st floor of any nearby house.

How many people have a little junk in their carport or on the porch?

Now they can fine you and get a search warrant.

And, VA sales tax goes up 1% in July.

What do they spend all of this money on?

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Negroponte ()
Date: May 06, 2013 02:02PM

ohmyfuckinggod, some municipality wants to govern itself.

get the fuck out if you don't like it, you homo.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: General Ruford T. Hays ()
Date: May 06, 2013 02:02PM

yes out of control Wrote:
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> Yes, they are out of control. Under a newly passed
> law you can't store anything outside unless it is
> in an enclosed space and not visible from the 1st
> floor of any nearby house.
>
> How many people have a little junk in their
> carport or on the porch?
>
> Now they can fine you and get a search warrant.
>
> And, VA sales tax goes up 1% in July.
>
> What do they spend all of this money on?

Drones of course!
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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Civics Class ()
Date: May 06, 2013 02:19PM

If you'd follow the link you'd see that the changes requested come from County employees, not County residents and voters. This is not about self-governance but rather about a big bureaucracy becoming bigger and wasting more money.

If you hunt around the Fairfax County website you'll find that almost every little office publishes a newsletter. These newsletters details all sorts of activities and events that have nothing to do with providing services to residents/taxpayers.

If a private company did this, they'd end up answering to their shareholders. Here, however, the County government does what it pleases, though maybe not for too much longer.

It is time for Sharon Bulova to go, and she can take her son with her.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Negroponte ()
Date: May 06, 2013 03:06PM

and it you hunt around with both hands for a while, maybe you'll find your ass, and likely you'll also find your head up there, cocknocker

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Barack the Magic Negroponte ()
Date: May 06, 2013 03:10PM

Let's see how much you like it when putting a couple of pieces of furniture out gets you daily fines and a misdemeanor conviction.

Time for the Bulovas to own up to being bigger neocons than Bush and Cheney.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Fairfax is broke ()
Date: May 06, 2013 05:36PM

Right now the county will do anything for revenue!

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: section 8 gerry ()
Date: May 06, 2013 05:54PM

Fairfax is broke Wrote:
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> Right now the county will do anything for revenue!

you gotta pay for those section 8 luxury condos somehow

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Thomas the Doubter ()
Date: May 07, 2013 12:56PM

If they recommend certain contractors how do you know it is all above board?

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: May 07, 2013 01:02PM

gotta admit............as anal as OP sounds, it DOES sound like all this regulation is for is an attempt to make the County one big ole HOA, y'know?

edit: not pro or con - just pointing it out. I doubt this is a law addressing some sorta pressing need or something, know what I mean? LoLz



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2013 01:03PM by Gordon Blvd.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: fines ()
Date: May 07, 2013 01:40PM

Sounds like they want to enforce more zoning covenants with fines... What is the problem? They have a notification period. If fined you have 10 days to cure before being fined again.

Maybe once slobs with crap all over their yards start getting fined our County will be a better place to live.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: HOA ()
Date: May 07, 2013 02:01PM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> gotta admit............as anal as OP sounds, it
> DOES sound like all this regulation is for is an
> attempt to make the County one big ole HOA,
> y'know?
>
> edit: not pro or con - just pointing it out. I
> doubt this is a law addressing some sorta pressing
> need or something, know what I mean? LoLz

You nailed it, One gigantic HOA.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: hate thy neighbor ()
Date: May 08, 2013 11:10AM

My neighbors are 80 or 90. County wants them to clear out a bunch of stuff behind their house, the claim is that it can be seen from a nearby house.

A social worker came out and told them the County would do the work as they are on social security. The hitch is that the county is backlogged 8 months due to the requirements of some new laws.

The zoning people were back out last week, said that they will not wait 8 months, it is these people's problems. So the rest of the neighbors are going to have to do it.

The county needs to coordinate with itself. If some of us weren't willing to help the zoning department would get these people arrested.

I wonder what Sharon Bulova's house looks like?

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: All governments do ()
Date: May 09, 2013 09:03AM

Is make more government!

Doesn't surprise me that no two county agencies coordinate with each other. Fairfax County is Game of Thrones, all it is about is empire building.

Vote no on all bonds, vote against all incumbents. Take away their money and throw them out while you are at it.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Officer Sodomy ()
Date: May 09, 2013 03:14PM

Was that guy the liaison to the zoning office?

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: westbygod ()
Date: May 09, 2013 05:43PM

Thats why I love West Virginny no pesky regulations about my house looking like a junk yard.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: erosion of rights ()
Date: May 10, 2013 11:59AM

Mark my words the day is coming soon when all homes will be inspected and ONLY approved contractors can do the abatement work. Corruption thrives in totalitarian socities such as the one emerging in Fairfax County.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Job for Lynndie England ()
Date: May 10, 2013 02:39PM

These people should work in the zoning department torturing senior citizens:

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1799.html

Sharon BUlova = King Joffrey?

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: katiesmith ()
Date: May 10, 2013 02:55PM

That's a completely stupid rule. I can understand an HOA or condo association being allowed to enforce something like that,but if people choose to live in areas that don't have one than it should be up to them what they do with their property (within reason) and likewise they should tolerate what others do on theirs.

It's not unique to Fairfax though-Arlington, Alexandria and DC are fascists too.


yes out of control Wrote:
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> Yes, they are out of control. Under a newly passed
> law you can't store anything outside unless it is
> in an enclosed space and not visible from the 1st
> floor of any nearby house.
>
> How many people have a little junk in their
> carport or on the porch?
>
> Now they can fine you and get a search warrant.
>
> And, VA sales tax goes up 1% in July.
>
> What do they spend all of this money on?

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: 99% ()
Date: May 10, 2013 03:16PM

erosion of rights Wrote:
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> Mark my words the day is coming soon when all
> homes will be inspected and ONLY approved
> contractors can do the abatement work. Corruption
> thrives in totalitarian socities such as the one
> emerging in Fairfax County.

Oh yes, I can see that too.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Good Bye Sharon Bulova ()
Date: May 10, 2013 03:21PM

Let's vote these dictators (Bulova and the rest) out of office.

Let's oppose all bond issues to put them in a cash squeeze.

If you look at the zoning stuff on the Fairfax County website, they encourage you to turn your neighbors in if you even SUSPECT a violation.

Informants, secret police, buildings built for the privileged…we'll have Stalinism soon if this keeps up.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Long Timer ()
Date: May 10, 2013 09:52PM

@katiesmith who wrote:

"That's a completely stupid rule. I can understand an HOA or condo association being allowed to enforce something like that,but if people choose to live in areas that don't have one than it should be up to them what they do with their property (within reason) and likewise they should tolerate what others do on theirs.

It's not unique to Fairfax though-Arlington, Alexandria and DC are fascists too."

That's because they're all over run by retarded liberals, as we're becoming.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: the vote is Tuesday ()
Date: May 12, 2013 12:03PM

The supervisors vote on this on Tuesday. Call and tell them how ridiculous you think it is.

Make your voice heard.

Let them know that you vote, and you vote against elected officials who support crap like this.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Contact Your Supervisor ()
Date: May 13, 2013 01:16PM

This is crap. Call your supervisor and tell them you don't vote for people who endorse crap.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: TODAY ()
Date: May 14, 2013 11:33AM

I called my supervisor's office and they did not sound pleased this was being discussed on FFXU. Too bad.

I left a message at Bulova's office. All off doing spin control?

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Annandale Lawn of Trash ()
Date: May 14, 2013 11:39AM

Thanks you guys for defending lazy assholes like me who pile trash on my lawn and bring down a neighborhoods value.

Its so nice to see that you guys care about me so much as to fight logical laws made to enforce common courtesy to your neighbors!

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Marx and Lennon ()
Date: May 15, 2013 11:15AM

So what did they do at this meeting? Decide your property can be seized if parking ticket revenues are down or something?

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Hey BillyBob ()
Date: May 15, 2013 12:30PM

You just know that the OP has a car up on blocks in the front yard that he "tinkers with" occasionally. Not to mention a variety of illegal structures hanging off of his house like Christmas tree ornaments. And a dog that barks day and night. But let's not interfere with his "rights" on his little patch of heaven.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Government Center Expansion ()
Date: May 16, 2013 11:14AM

They need these revenues and those of the meal tax to pay for an expansion of Government Center.

They also want to put out more internal newsletters and give more employee of the month awards.

Your tax dollars hard at work.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: another example of fascism ()
Date: May 16, 2013 11:16AM


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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: cases ()
Date: May 19, 2013 04:16PM

Marx and Lennon Wrote:
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> So what did they do at this meeting? Decide your
> property can be seized if parking ticket revenues
> are down or something?


what would you do if your next door neighbor was a hoarder who kept moving his fence so he could hoard on your property? what would you do if you saw 15 cars parked in a single family driveway and on the lawn? what would you do if you found 90 cats in a house? it costs money to take people to court, to pay for cleanup assistance, to pay dump fees, to move the fence back over to the property line. do you want your taxes to go up again to pay to clean up this stuff? why not levy the fine on the person committing the infraction.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: May 19, 2013 06:56PM

If this is your biggest worry, oh my goodness. Sharon stinks, but as much as I don't like admitting to it, she's probably "Board Supervisor for Life" type of material. Look at her voting counts each election.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Bye Bye Bulova ()
Date: May 19, 2013 07:15PM

Bulova won by a narrow margin. She'll have trouble this time. I know a whole street full of people getting ready to toss her and Smyth over this zoning business (the street with the senior citizens who can't get county help).

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: May 19, 2013 09:37PM

Bye Bye Bulova Wrote:
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> Bulova won by a narrow margin. She'll have trouble
> this time. I know a whole street full of people
> getting ready to toss her and Smyth over this
> zoning business (the street with the senior
> citizens who can't get county help).


I'm not counting my lucky stars for that to happen, but it would be cool, considering her whole brood is in the "family business" of politics.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: toss em out ()
Date: May 20, 2013 10:33AM

sorry but we don't need a Bulova dynasty here. It will be an overtaxed homeowners association with schools full of spirit but no learning.

Kaye Kory and Dick Saslaw need to go too.

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Re: More Fairfax Fascism
Posted by: Sharon's Swastika ()
Date: May 23, 2013 02:27PM

This passed-Code Compliance announced that they have already obtained arrest warrants for persons using carports as storage lockers.

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