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Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Libtard and Proud ()
Date: November 08, 2013 11:16AM

Per the Washington Post, there is a discrepancy in absentee voting in Eastern FFX Co., a heavily democratic area. It looked like Herring was going to be the winner anyway, but if these absentee votes are found that should seal the deal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/possible-discrepancy-in-fairfax-absentee-votes-could-affect-count-in-ag-race/2013/11/07/65108ad0-4825-11e3-bf0c-cebf37c6f484_story.html

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: How Does this Happen? ()
Date: November 08, 2013 12:16PM

How do you manage to lose almost 2,000 votes, most of which would be democratic? I guess the same way the state had an urgent need to purge thousands of voters at the last minute without question (and yes, that actually happened, despite many objections).

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Still Lost ()
Date: November 08, 2013 12:19PM

The more they try to cheat, the more people get annoyed in our area and come out to vote.

They can keep trying, it just enrages moderates who want to see fair elections when they demand photo ids (for unproven voter fraud), when magically suburban and urban polling areas have 2 machines during a major election while Danville gets polling placings with dozens, and the shit they keep pulling just before each election too.

Not to mention the fucked up gerrymandering that has happened which has the majority of the state vote for center left, yet 60% of the state delegates and 80% of our congressional representatives are strong right or center right.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Hay Zeus ()
Date: November 08, 2013 12:20PM

How Does this Happen? Wrote:
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> How do you manage to lose almost 2,000 votes, most
> of which would be democratic? I guess the same way
> the state had an urgent need to purge thousands of
> voters at the last minute without question (and
> yes, that actually happened, despite many
> objections).


Then when is a good time to purge voter rolls?

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 08, 2013 12:28PM

At this time it is nothing more than a curiosity. Let's see where the investigation takes us.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Really1 ()
Date: November 08, 2013 12:38PM

From the WP article:

"Another way of looking at the discrepancy was in the total number of absentee ballots cast. According to a news story published by WUSA-9 before the election, Fairfax County reported on Nov. 2 that more than 24,300 voters had cast absentee ballots. Yet according to the state Board of Elections’ Web site Thursday, the county reported only 22,484 absentee votes cast in the attorney general’s race."

So it could just be unclear WP reporting or not everyone who cast an absentee ballot voted for attorney general. This would easily explain the discrepancy. Just keep the pens and pencils out of the recount room.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Marf ()
Date: November 08, 2013 12:40PM

Maybe T-Mac will feel the need for a good ole purging for the next election?

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Barf  ()
Date: November 08, 2013 01:23PM

Marf Wrote:
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> Maybe T-Mac will feel the need for a good ole
> purging for the next election?


He'll be in jail long before then.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Corruption Patrol ()
Date: November 08, 2013 01:38PM

Barf  Wrote:
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> Marf Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe T-Mac will feel the need for a good ole
> > purging for the next election?
>
>
> He'll be in jail long before then.


Only one gubernatorial candidate was already caught abusing public office for personal gain, specifically a company with a pending case against the very office he ran.

So who is the corrupt one? As you like to point out, Terry has never held public office. Just like Ronald Reagan when he became Governor of California.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: shades of the weasel ()
Date: November 08, 2013 01:57PM

It might be like the voting machines in Lorton that "broke" as Gerry was losing but suddenly came out ahead.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: I Hope They Don't Find Them ()
Date: November 08, 2013 09:46PM

After all the crap that America faced at the hands of the Dems with trying everything possible to keep the military personnel at posts outside of the U.S. last year from voting in the 2012 election, all I have to say about this is "tough shit". Karma is a bitch. It's nice to see the Dems have their panties all wadded up in their ass as they try to work this one out.

I wonder if Gerry Connolly and Jim Moran had anything to do with this? They probably grabbed the wrong bag of absentee ballots and dropped them in the burning barrel ... to later realize that they had the wrong ballots.

LoL.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Liberal Logic 29 ()
Date: November 08, 2013 10:39PM

Corruption Patrol Wrote:
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> Only one gubernatorial candidate was already
> caught abusing public office for personal gain,
> specifically a company with a pending case against
> the very office he ran.
>
> So who is the corrupt one? As you like to point
> out, Terry has never held public office. Just
> like Ronald Reagan when he became Governor of
> California.

Terry is the corrupt one. Theres very few people on the planet where you could put in a room with Terry and he wouldnt be the one people pointed to if asked who the corrupt one is.

You have to have smoked yourself retarded if youre trying to make a comparison between Terry and Reagan.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: RoadMusings_ ()
Date: November 08, 2013 10:52PM

Libtard and Proud Wrote:
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> Per the Washington Post, there is a discrepancy in
> absentee voting in Eastern FFX Co., a heavily
> democratic area. It looked like Herring was going
> to be the winner anyway, but if these absentee
> votes are found that should seal the deal.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-polit
> ics/possible-discrepancy-in-fairfax-absentee-votes
> -could-affect-count-in-ag-race/2013/11/07/65108ad0
> -4825-11e3-bf0c-cebf37c6f484_story.html

Based on the outstanding votes, Herring would have to win a higher percentage than he won county-wide of the remaining ballots to make up the total.

There's also several other counties outstanding (Obenshain gained ~400 votes out of Bedford today).

btw, the person above who said "how do you lose 2,000 votes" is correct. It's a clusterfuck.

But it's not *that* unusual. Fairfax fubar'd the absentees last fall. It didn't matter because it wasn't close.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: cFxyT ()
Date: November 08, 2013 11:25PM

RoadMusings_ Wrote:

> btw, the person above who said "how do you lose
> 2,000 votes" is correct. It's a clusterfuck.
>
> But it's not *that* unusual. Fairfax fubar'd the
> absentees last fall. It didn't matter because it
> wasn't close.

From the outside, losing 2,000 votes that are discovered so quickly, makes the whole thing look like a Soviet-style election. It's less like Florida in 2000 and more like Liberia in 1927.

It's important to note how different the vote totals will be from election night to the "final" and "new" tally, when they're really trying to count correctly. It will demonstrate just how much a sham voting is in this 3rd world country of ours. "Your vote counts!" is total, complete, bullshit. It's just a way to make "the people" feel like they've had a say so they don't revolt.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: BrianSchoeneman ()
Date: November 08, 2013 11:41PM

Stop with the conspiracy theory nonsense. Elections aren't perfect and mistakes are always made. It's a 20+ hour process handled effectively by volunteers. That's why we have a canvass process, where we check and double check everything after the first night, so that errors are corrected and we can get the final certified number as correct as possible.

We made it a priority once we determined there was an issue to canvass the 8th District absentee ballot returns (not the ballots themselves - they're locked in a vault in the Courthouse) and we discovered two machine tapes that had discrepancies. One tape was counted and one wasn't, and on the one that wasn't there are enough votes to make up the difference. We are just trying to determine now that the one that was counted didn't include votes that were already counted on the second tape.

We are going to fix the error and ensure that when we certify the election, we've gotten the Fairfax County numbers right.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: d o double g ()
Date: November 09, 2013 12:00AM

When the cravings got a hold of you
pocket it like its hot
and when your munchies get an attitude
pocket like its hot
pocket like its hot

So don't change the dizzle, turn it up a lizzle
Got some cheesy drizzle, drippin' on my shizzle
Waitin' on the brizzle, the prizzle, the gizzle g's
When the cheese hits your tongue you'll scream, "Fo shizzle"

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: American_Exceptionalism ()
Date: November 09, 2013 12:02AM

BrianSchoeneman Wrote:
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> Stop with the conspiracy theory nonsense.
> Elections aren't perfect and mistakes are always
> made.

You're right. Voting conspiracies are for other countries.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: d o double g ()
Date: November 09, 2013 12:04AM

When the cravings got a hold of you
pocket it like its hot
and when your munchies get an attitude
pocket like its hot
pocket like its hot

So don't change the dizzle, turn it up a lizzle
Got some cheesy drizzle, drippin' on my shizzle
Waitin' on the brizzle, the prizzle, the gizzle g's
When the cheese hits your tongue you'll scream, "Fo shizzle".
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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: there is an issue ()
Date: November 09, 2013 12:36AM

The Federal government needs to check into this. Oh, we're all just volunteers as an explanation is bullshit. Virginia has a long history of playing tricks with the ballot box.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Liberal Logic 29 ()
Date: November 09, 2013 01:37AM

Make sure to check for all the illegals that voted and the ones who voted in person and sent a ballot in. In the end it probably works out even if not still in the Dems favor.

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Re: Virginia AG's race - absentee vote problems
Posted by: Voter ID Fraud? ()
Date: November 09, 2013 03:02PM

Well, there have been several issues, especially in the 86th and 87th districts. There is reason to believe that affiliates of candidates have cast ballots for people unlikely to vote (i.e.: targeting folks who did not vote in the last race for governor or state delegate). I understand that there are lists available to candidates and their political organizations of people who have voted and in which election they have voted.

Fraud is way too easy for insiders with the new voter ID rules. All you need is a utility bill to prove ID and I know several people in this election cycle (all affiliates of mine that live in these two districts) that have had votes already cast in their names when they've shown up at their respective polling stations. The common denominator amongst all but a handful of these voters is that they each acknowledge that they had not received a mailed utility bill during one cycle in the past 6 months. A majority of these people were missing just a single water bill during the same billing cycle (they found out via late notices weeks later), so it makes me wonder if they were stolen from their mailboxes the day they were delivered or if the utility provider is behind it.

I understand election officials are looking into this given the razor thin delegate margins in the 86th and 87th districts.

So, how many others has this happened to?

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