1 in 4 jobs in Fairfax County is defense related.

Come 1/1/13, sequestration will cut defense spending immediately by 14%. Lockheed Martin has said they will send layoff notices to almost their entire 123,000 workers, approximately 5000 of which are in Fairfax. Expect all other major defense contractors to follow suit. Four of the top six employers in Fairfax are defense contractors (SAIC, LM, BAH, and NG). If sequestration happens, Fairfax is scrrrreeeewwwwwweeedddd!

I do wonder about that.

Interesting but who cares? I mean, we're all going to die on 12/21/2012 right?

Makes me glad I work a blue-collar job now in a job where my work will never be outsourced. I doubt the company i am with will ever go under, but even if they do with the things they taught me I could easily join another company and be back to work within a week, literally. Or just start my own business if i am so inclined. People will always need the service I provide on my job. :)

If you are a computer programmer or other "redundant" office worker (not making fun, I was one myself!) who could possibly be laid off in this contracting debacle, if I were you I would pick up a blue collar trade really quick. With 10k laid off programmers and only 500 openings in the DMV competition to get another job will be fierce.....

Not a sermon, just a thought. ;)



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> Interesting but who cares? I mean, we're all
> going to die on 12/21/2012 right?

@flight risk: +1!

Sequestration isn't going to happen.

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WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Sequestration isn't going to happen.

I hope you're wrong. We need a few hundred thousand of these motherfuckers to go back where they come from. Traffic problems solved!

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Sequestration isn't going to happen.


Gotcha - no problems in 2013, we'll just become Greece by 2016. Good to know.

By way of the military-industrial complex, the Defense Department's budget provides the largest jobs program in the United States.

One need only look at the potential havoc wreaked by the cuts in the defense budget sequestration will cause (an estimated 114,900 jobs lost in Virginia by 2014) to see this.

As Fairfax County has grown fat on the milk of Federal money funneled both directly and indirectly to it over the past 60-odd years, so now will it shrivel as this sustenance slows to a trickle. Of course, Fairfax will not die; the milk will continue to flow if for no other reason than the county's proximity to Washington, but it will experience contraction.

It's quite likely that Fairfax County, 2030, will look a lot like Fairfax County, 1975, except with acres of abandoned or rotting townhouses and McMansions in the place of dairy farms: the new favelas for the formerly middle class.

I really do hope I'm wrong, but I don't know what can replace the money that we won't have in the future.

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>
> Gotcha - no problems in 2013, we'll just become
> Greece by 2016. Good to know.


Just raise Romney's tax rate from 13 percent to 25 percent, and it won't be an issue.

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So you go from a DOD contractor to a VA contractor. The money will never stop flowing you just have to look in the right places to find it.

send them carpetbaggers back to where they came from. HELL! BWUAHAUHAA. White collar got stains.

what about the upside? 5,000 bmw's off the road. That can't be a bad thing

I don't think Obama will let it happen. If he loses in Nov. then he wouldn't want to go out with the GOP saying "hey look his last couple months SAW huge job losses". If he wins than he still won't want to see the job losses. It would be a bad way to start a second term with so many job losses.

I don't care if your blue or white collar, IF it does happen everyone will be affected. Don't think it won't affect you. Unless of course your an HR leech and its your job to facilitate mass layoffs.

BTW, here's a link to an artickle detailing the Lockhead threat. Oddly enough, they would send notices just 2 days before the November election. Sounds like a stunt.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/27/lockheed-martin-s-layoff-notices-an-empty-threat.html

res Wrote:
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> BTW, here's a link to an artickle detailing the
> Lockhead threat. Oddly enough, they would send
> notices just 2 days before the November election.
> Sounds like a stunt.
>
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/27/l
> ockheed-martin-s-layoff-notices-an-empty-threat.ht
> ml

Part of the vast right wing conspiracy?

That's 60 days prior to sequestration. The WARN act (Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act), passed by Democrats in Congress with a veto-proof majority under Reagan, requires notice of layoff's 60 days prior. Amazing that they planned this 'stunt' so far in advance to get the law requiring it passed 30 years ago.

the 1.2 trillion dollar 10-year budget sequester has shrunk to 1 trillion dollars, thanks to declining cost of financing debt.

it's about 7 to 8 percent. the cuts are spread over defense-related programs, not just the Department of Defense. the budget plans factored in inflation. the actual cuts are even less.

dooy Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> > Sequestration isn't going to happen.
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> I hope you're wrong. We need a few hundred
> thousand of these motherfuckers to go back where
> they come from. Traffic problems solved!


A-fucking-men

seriously? Wrote:
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> res Wrote:
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> > BTW, here's a link to an artickle detailing the
> > Lockhead threat. Oddly enough, they would send
> > notices just 2 days before the November
> election.
> > Sounds like a stunt.
> >
> >
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06/27/l
>
> >
> ockheed-martin-s-layoff-notices-an-empty-threat.ht
>
> > ml
>
> Part of the vast right wing conspiracy?
>
> That's 60 days prior to sequestration. The WARN
> act (Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification
> Act), passed by Democrats in Congress with a
> veto-proof majority under Reagan, requires notice
> of layoff's 60 days prior. Amazing that they
> planned this 'stunt' so far in advance to get the
> law requiring it passed 30 years ago.

Did you read the article? Here's an extract:

"What’s more, say Raisner and other legal experts, the company is improperly using the WARN Act, since the job cuts are still speculative and would not all occur on Jan. 2: “Giving a blanket WARN notice to everybody and anybody: that sounds like spite. It’s not a legitimate business feature...............Even if Congress fails to stop the sequester deal before the end of the year and the defense budget gets cut, “everything doesn’t shut down the first week of January,” says Daniel Gordon, President Obama’s former administrator for federal procurement policy and a 17-year veteran of the Government Accountability Office. “I would not expect the sequestration to lead to a trigger of the WARN Act requirements in early November.” The $55 billion in 2013 military cuts would come with a yearlong whimper, not a bang, he said—less a fiscal “cliff” than a long, slow slide down a fiscal hill.................Compliance experts and contractors say Lockheed Martin is far less tied to the 60-day notification requirement than it suggests. The act itself is riddled with loopholes. It isn’t triggered unless a company lays off at least 500 people in a given facility within 30 days. So, even if Lockheed did have to make early-2013 layoffs, it could fire 499 workers a month without sending notices. "

Also, in terms of the cuts, IIRC, they factor in the ending of Afghanistant, which is a given.

No mas leche de los gobierno. Wrote:
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> It's quite likely that Fairfax County, 2030, will
> look a lot like Fairfax County, 1975, except with
> acres of abandoned or rotting townhouses and
> McMansions in the place of dairy farms: the new
> favelas for the formerly middle class.


"Life After People" is one of my fave TV shows!

I bet with their shitty 2X4 and glued together sawdust construction, the townhouses and McMansions will be reclaimed by the land in no time. I can hardly wait!

Before being reclaimed by the land, Fairfax County would convert them to Section 8s.

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> "Life After People" is one of my fave TV shows!
>
> I bet with their shitty 2X4 and glued together
> sawdust construction, the townhouses and
> McMansions will be reclaimed by the land in no
> time. I can hardly wait!




HA!


I think the homeless at the Lamb Center will spread out and squat all the homes before they start deteriorating.