Haha stupid white americans can't even get to top level school and black man president? haha! this would never happen in korea

http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20120413/NEWS/704139572/1117/thomas-jefferson-high-admits-480-for-class-of-2016&template=fairfaxTimes

This funny, belly belly funny

Ha Ha Whitey Wrote:
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> Haha stupid white americans can't even get to top
> level school and black man president? haha! this
> would never happen in korea
>
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20120413/NEWS/
> 704139572/1117/thomas-jefferson-high-admits-480-fo
> r-class-of-2016&template=fairfaxTimes


Hey, pan faced Korean. You might be good at math, but you suckie suckie at Engrish. 42.9% represents the percentage of slopes that applied, not that were accepted.

atleast the whiteman still has frudruckers as their last bastion of hope


oh wait...

Diversity. The power of it. LOL. Strength in numbers too.

The problem with these admissions stats is people are listing them by the totally false-science labels "race".

Better to use "male", 'female", and some sort of economic measure.

did you read the article from TJ TO Homeless?

Cho Wrote:
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> > Haha stupid white americans can't even get to
> top
> > level school and black man president? haha!
> this
> > would never happen in korea
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> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20120413/NEWS/
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> 704139572/1117/thomas-jefferson-high-admits-480-fo
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> Hey, pan faced Korean. You might be good at math,
> but you suckie suckie at Engrish. 42.9%
> represents the percentage of slopes that applied,
> not that were accepted.

If I'm so stupid then why all 3 of my children go to Thomas Jefferson while yours just inspect my BMW once a year at local gas station

Excellent, more Asians to do our bidding.
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Olde Farte, II Wrote:
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> The problem with these admissions stats is people
> are listing them by the totally false-science
> labels "race".
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> Better to use "male", 'female", and some sort of
> economic measure.


and exactly how would it benefit anyone for statisticians to analyze and interpret the data they've collected on the general population to exclude race entirely and only distribute based solely on gender and some vague economic variable? are you fucking stupid or do you change the rules whenever you're not on top.

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> > > level school and black man president? haha!
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> > > would never happen in korea
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> > Hey, pan faced Korean. You might be good at
> math,
> > but you suckie suckie at Engrish. 42.9%
> > represents the percentage of slopes that
> applied,
> > not that were accepted.
>
> If I'm so stupid then why all 3 of my children go
> to Thomas Jefferson while yours just inspect my
> BMW once a year at local gas station


Pan faced gook once again wants to demonstrate how bad you suckie suckie at Engrish. LOL @ "why all 3 of my children...." Ever ear of the word "do" or a question mark? Now, shut up and stop sniffing the starch at your laundromat.

Take pride in the fact that your TJ grads will be working for my kids in about 10 years. Don't worry, they will pay them a decent salary.

PS - I will be by around 6 to pick up my $2000 suits. They better be ready by then.

PPS - If you touch my dog, I am calling the cops.

> and exactly how would it benefit anyone for statisticians to analyze and
> interpret the data they've collected on the general population to exclude race
> entirely and only distribute based solely on gender and some vague economic
> variable? are you fucking stupid or do you change the rules whenever you're not
> on top.

No, false-science race labels are fucking stupid - that's my whole point. Who CARES what nose shape a person admitted to TJ has!?

No kidding - fucking stupid and entirely bogus and should NEVER be used again (*).

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If one wants to have some sort of measure to rant about then use, say, "Permanent resident/Citizen" vs "nonResident" (using Federal, not Virginia, definitions). Then you can rant all you want about discrimination against US students, as opposed to transient nonUS students who are literally here only to get into TJ.

I suggested the "male" and "female" labels, as well as economic status of some sort, so the particular folks who want to rant about THOSE disparities can have their datapoint to rant about. Those particular labelings, in case YOU are too fucking stupid to understand it - actually have valid definitions that are not based off off false-science.

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(*) Fortunately, some government entity that has a say in such things has FINALLY allowed the ONLY valid "racial" label to be selected by anyone filling out a form with the false-science "race" field; that label is, of course "multiracial".

Cho Wrote:
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> Pan faced gook once again wants to demonstrate how
> bad you suckie suckie at Engrish. LOL @ "why all
> 3 of my children...." Ever ear of the word "do"
> or a question mark? Now, shut up and stop
> sniffing the starch at your laundromat.
>
> Take pride in the fact that your TJ grads will be
> working for my kids in about 10 years. Don't
> worry, they will pay them a decent salary.
>
> PS - I will be by around 6 to pick up my $2000
> suits. They better be ready by then.
>
> PPS - If you touch my dog, I am calling the cops.

You do realize your english is equally on par with hers. What's your excuse? At least she got one.

and out of curiosity, why would anyone be inclined to believe you even own several suits worth more than 2000 given you use the price as a signal of its value rather than the designer or even believe your children are going somewhere with their lives, especially if they came from the same gene pool as yours. No amount of good parenting can make up for genetic deficiencies. Last I checked, Thomas Jefferson graduates fill more CEO positions than any other high school in the nation, so either your parenting is on some next level shit or you're just further demonstrating your abilities as a human being or lack there of.

TyIer Wrote:
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> > Pan faced gook once again wants to demonstrate
> how
> > bad you suckie suckie at Engrish. LOL @ "why
> all
> > 3 of my children...." Ever ear of the word
> "do"
> > or a question mark? Now, shut up and stop
> > sniffing the starch at your laundromat.
> >
> > Take pride in the fact that your TJ grads will
> be
> > working for my kids in about 10 years. Don't
> > worry, they will pay them a decent salary.
> >
> > PS - I will be by around 6 to pick up my $2000
> > suits. They better be ready by then.
> >
> > PPS - If you touch my dog, I am calling the
> cops.
>
> You do realize your english is equally on par with
> hers. What's your excuse? At least she got one.

"...she got one." Nice use of ebonics.

> and out of curiosity, why would anyone be inclined
> to believe you even own several suits worth more
> than 2000 given you use the price as a signal of
> its value rather than the designer

My suits are hand made by a tailor. While he is excellent at what he does, his name would not likely ring a bell with anyone, particularly you. If you think the best suits are a name brand off the rack at Nordstrom, find yourself a custom tailor where you can pick the fabric, cut, design, etc. Once you've done that, you won't be making the type of comment you just made.

> or even believe
> your children are going somewhere with their
> lives, especially if they came from the same gene
> pool as yours.

Looks like I touched a nerve. Don't worry about me or my kids. We are just fine.

> No amount of good parenting can
> make up for genetic deficiencies.

You should have chosen you parenst more wisely.

> Last I checked,
> Thomas Jefferson graduates fill more CEO positions
> than any other high school in the nation,

Really? Last I checked making up stats is a sign of defeat.


> either your parenting is on some next level shit
> or you're just further demonstrating your
> abilities as a human being or lack there of.

"there of" should be one word. As in thereof.

Need any other pointers?

In life, it's not only the ability to be highly educated, but also the ability to lead and communicate well in a team setting. From my experience pan faced gooks are followers not leaders

why do azn people smell like feet?

Why white hating on azn? I go to presybetarian church and everyone get along, even chocolate man. Here I show you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3sdkt1Nf9s

We'll see who is laughing when ICE comes knocking on the doors of 90% of the Korean student population at TJHS to discuss visa fraud. I'm sure that they'd love to hear how the parents of such students pay Korean residents of Fairfax County $35,000-$50,000 per year to put them up in their homes and attend this County's schools.

The subject line is misleading, because the percentage quoted was the percentage of the total applying.

The more interesting statistic is the number of students actually admitted, which breaks down like this:

Asian	308	64.2%
White	126	26.3%
Hispanic	13	2.7%
Black	7	1.5%

When one compares the ratio of applicants to admissions, the statistics are also very telling:

Race/ethnicity	Applied	Admitted	Percentage
Asian	1469	308	20.97%
White	1239	126	10.17%
Hispanic	285	13	4.56%
Black	235	7	2.98%

In short, 1 in 5 Asian applicants was admitted, 1 in 10 White applicants, 1 in 20 Hispanic applicants, and 1 in 33 Black applicants.

There's also the unspoken reason why so many non-Asian kids didn't apply to TJ, which is because at their home schools, they're academic superstars, while at TJ, they'd just be one of the crowd.

^The unspoken reason mentioned above is an important reason in "white culture". Developing confidence and leadership is viewed as important. I would bet that a lot of the white kids who are at TJ are not just "one of the crowd".

The problem is multifaceted. Speaking as a parent of a white kid in a GT center who would have rather died than gone to TJ, which is just a continuation of the male asian culture, the reason most Asians want to go to TJ and actually some threatened suicide when they didn't get it (Indians too) is their parents-Tiger Moms and Dads...I wouldn't send my dog to TJ-all Asian, all male.

I seriously doubt anything you say is true. Why would a '1%' be on this forum wasting his time.

The asians pay for all the prep classes years before they apply for TJ, that's why they get in more. They also EXPECT their kids to get in. It isn't a 'it'd be nice if you got in" it's more of 'you better get in' The pressure on the kids is intense. More white parents around here think their kid is going to college on a sports scholarship and their expectations for their kids is lower.

Few encourage their kids to excel at math or science. Asians expect & demand their kids to excel at those subjects.

The more Asian TJ becomes, the more Asian it will become in the future. HS kids are very sensitive to the school's culture and non-Asian teens will feel uncomfortable there no matter how smart they are. It will be hard for them to relate to the "Tiger mom's kids". They have had very different life experiences. Friendships at this age are important. I think the white kids will be happy to stay in their base schools and take the higher level courses offered there (all of the high schools offer AP or IB). They can still get into competitive colleges and have good careers. I think the stress level at this age is not worth it for many. It's a balanced approach.

school culture Wrote:
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> The more Asian TJ becomes, the more Asian it will
> become in the future. HS kids are very sensitive
> to the school's culture and non-Asian teens will
> feel uncomfortable there no matter how smart they
> are. It will be hard for them to relate to the
> "Tiger mom's kids". They have had very different
> life experiences. Friendships at this age are
> important. I think the white kids will be happy
> to stay in their base schools and take the higher
> level courses offered there (all of the high
> schools offer AP or IB). They can still get into
> competitive colleges and have good careers. I
> think the stress level at this age is not worth it
> for many. It's a balanced approach.

That's the reality. You can do a moderate amount of work at a FCPS high school, do well on your college exams and get into a top 50 school or something very close. The Asian kids are a source of awe and curiosity, but not much envy. White kids don't look up to them in the slightest. They are seen as followers, not leaders.

As TJ becomes even more Asian, and all its major sports teams continue to struggle, white students and their parents increasingly view it as the high school equivalent of a science fair they choose not to enter, because they already have a B+ in the class.

I am a white B average student. I have a talent communicating BS in a team setting. I am too dumb to get in America's #1 high school. But my future is all set in the "leadership" field.

the Koreans and Asians in general, in noVA, are good for one thing only...operating the massage parlors in the area and sucky sucky my big white cock.

It would be interesting to know how many of the Asians are on student visas over at TJ or how many of their parents are on HB1B's. Is this high school funded by the voters (citizens) of FFX for citizens of other countries? It's a nice service for them. They should not complain, but maybe they are right that we are dumb.

The white kids with B averages are not dumb as the poster above asserts---nor are the Asians with A averages necessarily smart. Dumb and smart are not measured so easily. One set of students is pushed to get A's and the other set values putting their efforts into other areas of life as well as school (or they don't discipline themselves to do well in things that they aren't interested in). The white culture has pretty much seen high school as a place where students find what they like and don't like as far as studies or a career goes. Fortunately, colleges understand this and that is why they consider more than just grades when kids apply to colleges (such as SAT scores, class concentratons, community service, and extracurricular activities). The reason that the rest of the world tries to get into US colleges is because US colleges actually add a lot of value to the student. Our system assumes that you keep on learning in college. In other countries, the assumption is that you work hard in high school and take entrance exams to college. Once you get to college in those countries, your life is easy. The system here has been pretty much the reverse up until recent years. We are now faced with a more competitive environment. We have risen to that challenge, but we are not all the way to where the Koreans are (exams that are high pressure and high stakes at the end of high school). I wonder if the Koreans at TJ prefer our system or the one they left back in Korea. There is some reason they are here instead of in a high powered high school in Korea.

The ability to apply to TJ is somewhat based on merit. Admission is not.

Please remember that the four-hour TJ entrance exam only qualifies a student to apply. In other words, you get to apply only if you achieve some baseline score on the exam.

Of all the steps in the admission process, the exam is the only one that approaches objectivity. It isn't completely so, because it includes two timed, written essays. And yes, you can game it with test prep the same way you can game IQ tests and the SAT. But I can tell you from personal experience that a child needn't be prepped, Asian, male, highly gifted, or a GT center veteran to do well on the exam. And I reckon any kid who does well on it without much help will do well at TJ.

But any "merit" in the process ends with the exam.

To apply, your kid has to provide two teacher recommendations and complete a questionnaire. Let's ignore the recs for the time being. Yes, they're incredibly subjective and beyond the student's control. A lot of those are going to suck, because it's just more unpaid work for the teacher. But for all I know, they're just a check-the-box requirement at TJ the way they often are at universities.

The questionnaire is where it really gets interesting.

The application form asks questions like, "Please list the STEM activities you took part in" and "What type of STEM work do you want to do when you grow up?" In other words, it's part resume and part job interview.

The problem with kids' resumes is that kids don't create them. Parents do. The parents are the ones who pack a kid's schedule with activities such as MathCounts and robotics classes. Did the kid participate because they had a preternatural interest in these subjects, or because they were forced to go? Do the activities exist because kids are clamoring for them, or because a market has sprung up to cater to ambitious parents? Since it's impossible to know, this information is practically meaningless as a gauge of merit or aptitude.

As for the interview questions: Remember these are answered in writing...at home. Do children write the answers themselves? If they do, are they helped by the parents? How much? Again, it's impossible to know.

There are a few takeaways from all this.

One is that the TJ admissions process is highly subject to corruption.

Another is that if your child is a good student and you have the 90 bucks on hand, you should consider having them take the exam even if you don't intend to send them to TJ. For one thing, it'll teach them to ignore propaganda designed to intimidate the uninitiated, reduce competition, and preserve the test creators' economic self-interest. For another, it's good practice. Even if the child doesn't make the cut, the more times they take this kind of test, the better they'll become at it.

I have always thought it was odd that these kids race through the GT Center Schools to pressure themselves (the Asians only) to get into TJ (they seem to be the only ones who actually truly want to go to TJ and maybe one or two savant type white boys), then the kids that graduate from TJ compete with the top tier base school kids to get into Virginia schools (cause the Asians really want to go to U Va and Tech to pay instate rates). My son got into U Va and turned it down to go to an out of state school that actually does well in his field (Uva doesnt) but I heard all the asian parents at TJ really want those two schools for the great dollar deal that they are...whats the point then? if everybody ends up in the same place?

school culture Wrote:
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> The more Asian TJ becomes, the more Asian it will
> become in the future. HS kids are very sensitive
> to the school's culture and non-Asian teens will
> feel uncomfortable there no matter how smart they
> are. It will be hard for them to relate to the
> "Tiger mom's kids". They have had very different
> life experiences. Friendships at this age are
> important. I think the white kids will be happy
> to stay in their base schools and take the higher
> level courses offered there (all of the high
> schools offer AP or IB). They can still get into
> competitive colleges and have good careers. I
> think the stress level at this age is not worth it
> for many. It's a balanced approach.

This is very well said, and accurate. I had aspirations for my middle school GT kid to attened there, now I don't think it'll be worth it. As it gets to be an nearly all-Asian enclave it deters other smart kids from attending. They can do well elsewhere so why torture your kid with test=prep hell to go to school with a bunch of grinds?

Leader Wrote:
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> I am a white B average student. I have a talent
> communicating BS in a team setting. I am too dumb
> to get in America's #1 high school. But my future
> is all set in the "leadership" field.

you coukd be a lawyer! Exactly the right profile.

uouou Wrote:
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> I have always thought it was odd that these kids
> race through the GT Center Schools to pressure
> themselves (the Asians only) to get into TJ (they
> seem to be the only ones who actually truly want
> to go to TJ and maybe one or two savant type white
> boys), then the kids that graduate from TJ compete
> with the top tier base school kids to get into
> Virginia schools (cause the Asians really want to
> go to U Va and Tech to pay instate rates). My son
> got into U Va and turned it down to go to an out
> of state school that actually does well in his
> field (Uva doesnt) but I heard all the asian
> parents at TJ really want those two schools for
> the great dollar deal that they are...whats the
> point then? if everybody ends up in the same
> place?


+1

Half my friends went to TJ, half stayed at my base school, 4 years later it seems like a good chunk from both groups ended up at UVA/VT, and today they are all either in good careers or applying to top grad schools. There really isn't much of a difference in the long run for your average TJ student vs someone in their base school who takes the AP/Honors curriculum. I'm sure there are some truly gifted people who go to TJ, but they are brilliant enough that they would have been successful regardless of what HS they went to.

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> ... but they are
> brilliant enough that they would have been
> successful regardless of what HS they went to.

Exactly. It's HIGH SCHOOL. In addition, I know a few TJ kids who ended up losers.

So is there a conspiracy within the mostly white group of admissions people to make TJ all Asian?!? THAT makes a lot of sense. Here's a thought: they take the smartest and highest achieving kids, and since the Asian culture puts a much higher emphasis on academics than the other races in our region, TJ has a large number of them. Weird.

I had a girlfriend who went to Jefferson, in college she was a black out drunk whore.

There are many brilliant and successful math and science professionals who went to "regular" high schools. It's shocking to think that this could happen. Imagine---kids who weren't pushed, but actually enjoyed math and science and decided to study those fields. Some of these are the most creative minds in those areas of endeavor. I'm not making this up.

Two of the major reasons that TJ is dominated by asians, and asian males is that it focuses on math and science and because this population is tortured by parents to get in. I agree with Joy of It, that there are plenty of other kids who are talented in these areas who will, hopefully, have a balanced and successful life. It is all about how we define success. I truthfully would not want my child to spend their lives doing something just to either please parents or society. Do your passion, probably not at TJ for white kids.

If TJ were truly about kids who had a passion for science and math, it would look more like the demographics of Fairfax County. There are kids of every race, color, and ethnicity who have this aptitude and passion. However, TJ is about taking some test, getting really high grades, getting some recommendations, and jumping through hoops (test prep classes, etc.). As long as this is the case, Asians will get in disproportionately. Blacks and Hispanics are pretty much shut out (and once they see the demographics, they really don't want to go there). The good news is that colleges understand all of this and they really want to enroll kids who have the passion. Those kids with the passion will succeed in the long run. TJ is a place where parents decide what the kid is going to do. Real life is where the individual decides for himself or herself---at least that's real life in America. The latter is much more powerful and lasting in terms of life success. It's the whole reason our country has been successful and will continue to be successful. This is why China will never beat us. Torture is not an American value. Despite our stumbles, Americans continue to be very independent, outward looking, and focused on happiness. People who do things based on intrinsic happiness are the ones who find success. Money is just what comes as a result. The richness is inside ourselves. We will prevail.

I think some of the kids are first gen immigrants that are not necessarily being pushed or pressured by the parents; however, they see that their parents working their butts off with multiple low pay jobs to make ends meet, and this makes them work hard to achieve a better life. TJ was created one year after I graduated from HS, but I would have love to go there. Back then, my parents don't know or care what courses I took - not even sure if they looked at the report cards I gave them each quarters. It was up to me to chose the HS courses and applied to the colleges on my own..filling out student loans and financial aids form, etc...
My oldest daughter is entering TJ this year. I actually told her that it would be better to be a big fish in a small pond of her local base HS. But since most of her closest groups of friends are going there, she wants to join them!! She drives herself harder then we drive her mainly because of her personality.

Recently talked to an Asian guy who runs his own successful business. He has 2 elementary aged daughters and I asked how they were doing. He told me that they are very busy with dance lessons and preparing for TJ! Now these little girls are like in 2nd and 4th grade and they are already preparing. He's a great guy, and very honest businessman. But, I had to shake my head in wonderment. But, that would help explain why there is a preponderence of Asians, because that is a priority for them.

According to TJ’s website, the school is specifically for students “demonstrating excellence and passion for math, science, and technology.” There’s nothing wrong with having a vocational high school. We probably should have more of them.

Unfortunately, TJ jumped the shark when it began a media campaign (yes, it was a campaign) for “best high school in America.”

From that point, the logic inevitably became this: Only students with a track record of “excellence and passion” for STEM - whatever that means for an eighth grader - deserve to attend the best high school in America.

Don’t have it? Then you’re just not smart enough. Your parents weren’t good enough. You’re the product of a culture of mediocrity where students are happy to settle for a B-plus when just a little extra effort would net them an A. Say goodbye to the natural ruling class. Off you go to the “little pond” that is your base high school.

When a school becomes more about the prestige than about the courses of study, folks will pursue it the same way they pursue any other status symbol. I’m not sure FCPS parents should tolerate public educational resources being rationed this way, but I see no sign of the trend reversing itself. There’s scarcely anyone in the county who hasn’t bought into the beliefs I outline above to at least some extent…whether they realize it or not.

...There’s nothing wrong with having a vocational high school. We probably should have more of them.

Man that is so true. Not everyone needs, wants, or should go to college. I know several people who are plumbers, electricians, HVAC contractors who are doing very well and don't need a college degree.

College Needed? Wrote:
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> ...There’s nothing wrong with having a
> vocational high school. We probably should have
> more of them.
>
> Man that is so true. Not everyone needs, wants,
> or should go to college. I know several people
> who are plumbers, electricians, HVAC contractors
> who are doing very well and don't need a college
> degree.


conversely, I know scientists who are low paid and have tedious jobs with little chance for advancement and several out of work engineers.

Ha Ha Whitey Wrote:
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> > > Haha stupid white americans can't even get to
> > top
> > > level school and black man president? haha!
> > this
> > > would never happen in korea
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20120413/NEWS/
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> >
> > >
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> 704139572/1117/thomas-jefferson-high-admits-480-fo
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> > > r-class-of-2016&template=fairfaxTimes
> >
> >
> > Hey, pan faced Korean. You might be good at
> math,
> > but you suckie suckie at Engrish. 42.9%
> > represents the percentage of slopes that
> applied,
> > not that were accepted.
>
> If I'm so stupid then why all 3 of my children go
> to Thomas Jefferson while yours just inspect my
> BMW once a year at local gas station

You have 3 children, who I assume are now adults, who went to TJ and no you spend your time as an unregistered user on a bulletin board race baiting? Where oh where did you go in the wrong direction?

Fairfaxunderground rules: Lilliputions, not ok. Midgettville ok. I got it now.

Many students start prepping 9multiplt courses) for the TJ test 3 years before taking it. If your child needs that much help to ace the test, they don't belong there. I had my child just show up and take it. He had to have the skills naturally or it would be an indication he would struggle when there. Maybe that's why TJ now has math remediation courses. Too many kids (and their parents) try to game the system.

-1 for idiots on this post for thinking that Asians only = Koreans... South Asians count in this demographic so we're also talking about Indians and Pakistanis here.

son turned down TJ class of 2015 Wrote:
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> Many students start prepping 9multiplt courses)
> for the TJ test 3 years before taking it. If your
> child needs that much help to ace the test, they
> don't belong there. I had my child just show up
> and take it. He had to have the skills naturally
> or it would be an indication he would struggle
> when there. Maybe that's why TJ now has math
> remediation courses. Too many kids (and their
> parents) try to game the system.


Agreed. Cause and effect seems to have gotten reversed somewhere in the past decade. It's supposed to be that great students make TJ great - not that TJ makes students great.

TJ is awesome if your student would 'naturally' be accepted and fits in there, but otherwise I don't see the point in gaming the system - it's lose/lose.

Of those students receiving acceptance to the school 64.2 percent (308 students) are Asian, 26.3 percent (126) are white, 2.7 percent (13) are Hispanic, and 1.5 percent (seven) are black.


SO WOW!!! 65% of those accepted were ASIAN!!!

hoyut Wrote:
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> Of those students receiving acceptance to the
> school 64.2 percent (308 students) are Asian, 26.3
> percent (126) are white, 2.7 percent (13) are
> Hispanic, and 1.5 percent (seven) are black.
>
>
> SO WOW!!! 65% of those accepted were ASIAN!!!

Who cares?

100% of those accepted are human - now THAT'S something to crow about!

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False bases for outrage are stupid.

And there's nothing more false than the false science of "race".

@parental - well, that's because you are the type of parent that would prolly focus your kids more on learning than X-Box..............which is why you dont understand where they (the ppl all focused on race) are coming from - y'see?

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> @parental - well, that's because you are the type
> of parent that would prolly focus your kids more
> on learning than X-Box..............which is why
> you dont understand where they (the ppl all
> focused on race) are coming from - y'see?

There is no such thing as "race" - that's my whole point - it's a bogus thing to get outraged over in thefirst place.

Instead, those who are "outraged" should key in on what was the root cause behind admission and get "outraged" over that.

Or simply say "Oh, that's interesting!" and move on.

Or simply say "If ya can't beat them, join them!"

TJ will soon be just another public high school. To achieve a political correctness certain minority group members will be admitted thus watering down the academic standards. Which is too bad because the original idea was great but Fairfax liberals are not going to tolerate certain ethic groups to be boxed out.

You may even see Obamas justice department get involved since it is an election year. The TJ concept goes against Obamas "fairness" goal that the subpar must be equal to those who excel. In other words why lift up those that are trying when you can drag them down to the level of those who dont.

I don't understand "khan sr". The number of minority group members is not going up at TJ (unless you count Asians as minorities). If the "liberals" are trying to get more minority group members admitted there, it is definitely not working---so how can the academic standards be "watered down" based on more minorities? Are you saying that the Asians are minorities who are watering down the academic standards? Less than 4% of the students are Black or Hispanic. Your argument makes no sense. The Post article this morning said that one third of the TJ students are in remedial math. They can't all be Black and Hispanic.

It could be that in an attempt to capture more minorities at TJ, they captured more Asians who are really not qualified to go there? Maybe because Asians apply in greater numbers? Just a thought. I don't know what khan sr. is saying.

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> I don't know what khan sr. is saying.

You know very well what he's saying. Roughly 160 TJ freshmen need remedial education, and according to khan sr., the blame for that rests squarely with TJ's 7 black and 13 Hispanic freshmen.

Well 65% are Asian, and asians are actually the people (and people from India) who want to be there. They live for this...caucasians don't...nuff said.

All races have admirable traits. Yes you need to break down the % applied to % accepted at TJ. Also % of "Asians" which are from India or Pakistani and those from China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam etc. Amongst all of these groups there are variations in IQ btw to anyone who has ever given soem time to researching IQ amongst populations.

Now, for those of you talking your self conscious garbage and trying to sound elite or better than us white folks...everything you have in your dirty and ungreatful little hands was invented by those white folks you speak of. Most of your medicines, all of your machinery, your lights, the entire democratic system that allows you arrogant little pricks to attend an elite public school with clean water, food and air conditioning (not to mention you don't need to shit in the street here) .. yeah you can thank us for that.

IF there aint enough whites and blacks at the school, it's my thoughts the funding will dry up quick, and the only courses offered will be about working in cleaners.