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Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Frank B
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Date: August 05, 2009 10:35AM
New to FFX county and was wondering if collapsable batons are legal to carry? Some batons are automatic which come out with a push of a button but mine is not spring loaded or automatic. It requires me to "flick" the wrist in order for the baton to extend. Is this legal?
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Lord_Shaper
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Date: August 05, 2009 11:03AM
Rhegistered Vhoter twirls batons in parades and no one gives him grief. Does that count?
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
nakedshoplifter
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Date: August 05, 2009 11:05AM
Just open carry a handgun.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
JayBee
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Date: August 05, 2009 12:11PM
Why would you need a collapsable baton? Expecting a fight? That will only maim your opponent, who will then sue you into the poorhouse. You need to go for concealed carry or open carry and avoid being hassled at all.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
interested
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Date: August 05, 2009 12:12PM
how hard is it to get these carry permits
just need to attend a 4 hour class and take a multiple choice test?
just need to attend a 4 hour class and take a multiple choice test?
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Frank B
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Date: August 05, 2009 12:30PM
Jaybee,
I'm not expecting a fight. I do carry a concealed firearm with me at all times but I would rather use that type of force as a last resort. I just figured I would have a better chance in court if the attacker wasnt dead.
I'm not expecting a fight. I do carry a concealed firearm with me at all times but I would rather use that type of force as a last resort. I just figured I would have a better chance in court if the attacker wasnt dead.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
atty@law
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Date: August 05, 2009 12:34PM
Frank B Wrote:
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> Jaybee,
>
> I'm not expecting a fight. I do carry a concealed
> firearm with me at all times but I would rather
> use that type of force as a last resort. I just
> figured I would have a better chance in court if
> the attacker wasnt dead.
a dead guy can't testify against you.
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> Jaybee,
>
> I'm not expecting a fight. I do carry a concealed
> firearm with me at all times but I would rather
> use that type of force as a last resort. I just
> figured I would have a better chance in court if
> the attacker wasnt dead.
a dead guy can't testify against you.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
un-fairfax aboveground
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Date: August 05, 2009 12:38PM
i have one, got it at the expo center gun show a long time ago for $20 just for the hell of it. but you cant carry it concealed. i guess you could have it in its holster thing on your belt no problem. and that would probably get you a lot less stares than open carrying a handgun.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
JayBee
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Date: August 05, 2009 03:57PM
I found one for $20, knock yourself out. Not literally.
http://www.crimehalter.com/collapsiblebatons.html
http://www.crimehalter.com/collapsiblebatons.html
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
ORCGUY
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Date: August 05, 2009 08:13PM
A 16 inch stick isn't likley to help you much. You have to be very close to somebody to strike, and by then, it's probably too late. Get some mace / pepper spray that can strike from yards away.
And btw, I cc as well.
And btw, I cc as well.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
ITRADE
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Date: August 05, 2009 08:19PM
The Slapper would do the trick too.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
bloody blisters
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Date: August 05, 2009 08:47PM
bear mace would stop anybody, sprays upto 20 feet and a 5 foot diameter. just make sure you are upwind
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
ConcernedCitizenJOE
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Date: August 06, 2009 12:21AM
How about a Tazer? Do they have those available for Civies?
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
bloody blisters
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Date: August 06, 2009 01:57AM
yoi know what CCJ i have never seen a tazer for sale. even at flea markets and black markets. im sure you can get one if you know a friend of a friend of a friend and so on.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
un-fairfax aboveground
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Date: August 06, 2009 02:27AM
http://www.safetybasement.com/Taser-C2-with-Laser-p/st-31040.htm
kind of expensive. and apparently when you shoot it it sprays out a bunch of tiny id tags so the police can track the owner if its used in a crime.
kind of expensive. and apparently when you shoot it it sprays out a bunch of tiny id tags so the police can track the owner if its used in a crime.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Lee
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Date: August 06, 2009 03:33AM
I carry a lil pocket knife and some razor blades hidden in my sneakers just incase. You really don't need to go through all the hustle of getting a gun, taser, or a baton just so you can defend yourself. Guns are cheap, legal and very effective.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Lee
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Date: August 06, 2009 03:59AM
But you know I rike to carry razors arround cause you never know when you need to hustle. I keep them in mi shoes even though sometimes I wear Jelries. I told my hunga once I had a razor and he beat me. I so sad. But now i drive a rincon continental and I like kaegogi. I hate cats MEOW nippa
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
notme
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Date: August 07, 2009 04:29PM
> a dead guy can't testify against you.
but his family can sue you into oblivion...
but his family can sue you into oblivion...
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
1800alawyer
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Date: August 07, 2009 07:09PM
notme Wrote:
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> > a dead guy can't testify against you.
>
> but his family can sue you into oblivion...
self-defense ftw
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> > a dead guy can't testify against you.
>
> but his family can sue you into oblivion...
self-defense ftw
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
ukman
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Date: August 07, 2009 07:17PM
they are great, uk police carry them, easy to conceal and flick out quick, they fucking hurt too believe me. best to hit someone in the thigh muscle area, OUCH
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Take a Stand
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Date: August 07, 2009 08:43PM
I have carried an ASP collapsible baton for many many years. I usually just keep it behind my truck's bench seat.
Ff the times I have been pulled over, the officer will usually ask why I have one. I tell them for self defense and show them my training card (cert) I took several years ago sponsored by ASP ( the manufacturer of the baton) and my conceal weapon permit. I have never had one give me a hard time, beyond just asking questions and the occasional smart-ass comment.
It is a great tool. One suggestion is to get the lanyard attachment that screws on the base,.. these batons can get taken away pretty easy in a fight.
Ff the times I have been pulled over, the officer will usually ask why I have one. I tell them for self defense and show them my training card (cert) I took several years ago sponsored by ASP ( the manufacturer of the baton) and my conceal weapon permit. I have never had one give me a hard time, beyond just asking questions and the occasional smart-ass comment.
It is a great tool. One suggestion is to get the lanyard attachment that screws on the base,.. these batons can get taken away pretty easy in a fight.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Gravis
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Date: August 08, 2009 09:28PM
i think a stun gun would be most prudent if you looking to avoid liability. it doesnt leave any injuries and you can hit people from a distance.
we sure know the police love them.
"DONT TAZE ME, BRO!"
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
we sure know the police love them.
"DONT TAZE ME, BRO!"
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Chavez
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Date: August 08, 2009 10:16PM
I have a basball in my trunk. If I get pulled over with it I just tell the them I am going to a game. It's great for hurting people and it's not considered a weopon.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
TREBOR SNIKA...
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Date: August 10, 2009 11:29AM
I have a fucking surface to air missle in my trunks, yo yo yo
ya get it
ya get it
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
code
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Date: August 10, 2009 09:22PM
18.2-308
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
expat
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Date: August 13, 2009 04:05AM
Noone considers UK poppies real cops bcuz no one takes them seriously. Me and my mates use to get into fights with them and run away from them.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
ThePackLeader
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Date: August 16, 2009 09:07PM
ORCGUY Wrote:
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> A 16 inch stick isn't likley to help you much.
> You have to be very close to somebody to strike,
> and by then, it's probably too late. Get some
> mace / pepper spray that can strike from yards
> away.
>
> And btw, I cc as well.
It depends upon what kind of person that you are however, I know a guy who used to carry nothing more than a rolled up paper in NYC in the 70's, and 80's, and it was all that he needed.
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> A 16 inch stick isn't likley to help you much.
> You have to be very close to somebody to strike,
> and by then, it's probably too late. Get some
> mace / pepper spray that can strike from yards
> away.
>
> And btw, I cc as well.
It depends upon what kind of person that you are however, I know a guy who used to carry nothing more than a rolled up paper in NYC in the 70's, and 80's, and it was all that he needed.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Gravis
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Date: August 16, 2009 10:15PM
ThePackLeader Wrote:
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> It depends upon what kind of person that you are
> however, I know a guy who used to carry nothing
> more than a rolled up paper in NYC in the 70's,
> and 80's, and it was all that he needed.
all i need are my teeth. i never go anywhere without them... i tried once, it hurt.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
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> It depends upon what kind of person that you are
> however, I know a guy who used to carry nothing
> more than a rolled up paper in NYC in the 70's,
> and 80's, and it was all that he needed.
all i need are my teeth. i never go anywhere without them... i tried once, it hurt.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Potomac
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Date: August 17, 2009 11:05AM
Have one and "HAD" one. Was not concealed but was taken away from me during a traffic stop for improper lane change. Also tried to get me for a assisted opening pocket knife in a tool bag. the baton was in the door pocket of the driver door. FCPD told me they were illegal and I have no buisness to carry such an item. I asked them to see it in writing and they gave me a business card and was told to have a nice day.
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
Potomac
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Date: August 17, 2009 11:09AM
Usually when you flick the baton and the shafts extend, The purpose is clear and people get the point it catches alot of people off guard. However-A tire iron usually sends the same message when introduced to the party.....
Re: Collapsable Batons
Posted by:
timmmmah
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Date: May 15, 2012 03:38PM
atty@law Wrote:
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> Frank B Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jaybee,
> >
> > I'm not expecting a fight. I do carry a
> concealed
> > firearm with me at all times but I would rather
> > use that type of force as a last resort. I
> just
> > figured I would have a better chance in court
> if
> > the attacker wasnt dead.
>
> a dead guy can't testify against you.
WOAH! I know this is old... but.... Trevon Martin anyone???
Some of ya'll talk way too loosely, even if joking.
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> Frank B Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Jaybee,
> >
> > I'm not expecting a fight. I do carry a
> concealed
> > firearm with me at all times but I would rather
> > use that type of force as a last resort. I
> just
> > figured I would have a better chance in court
> if
> > the attacker wasnt dead.
>
> a dead guy can't testify against you.
WOAH! I know this is old... but.... Trevon Martin anyone???
Some of ya'll talk way too loosely, even if joking.