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SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
FCPS
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Date: September 26, 2013 05:19PM
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FCPS Students Continue to Post SAT and ACT Scores Above State, National Averages
Students in Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) class of 2013 outperformed their peers in Virginia and the nation on the SAT, according to results released by the Virginia Department of Education. FCPS scores are 42 points above the state’s average in Critical Reading, 57 points above the state’s average in Mathematics, and 47 points above the state’s average in Writing. SAT results compiled by the College Board show that FCPS students posted average scores of 554 in Critical Reading, 568 in Mathematics, and 541 in Writing for an overall composite score of 1663, up from last year’s overall composite score of 1660 (see Table 1). The state composite score was up 7 points and the national composite score down 3 points in comparison to last year’s scores.
10 schools in Fairfax County improved from last year in all three sections: Edison, Langley, Madison, Marshall, McLean, Mount Vernon, South Lakes, Stuart, West Springfield, and Woodson High Schools. Students at Stuart High Schools posted the greatest gains by increasing the school’s Critical Reading average by 23 points, the Mathematics average by 18 points and the Writing average by 17 points. Students at Woodson High School increased the Critical Reading average by 16 points, the Mathematics average by 9 points and the Writing average by 11 points. Students at Edison High School increased the Critical Reading average by 14 points, the Mathematics average by 10 points and the Writing average by 14 points (see Table 2).
Of the 25 high schools in FCPS, 18 saw an increase in their Critical Reading average, 16 saw an increase in their Mathematics average, and 10 saw an increase in their Writing average over the last year. Marshall and South Lakes High Schools made steady gains in all three areas over the last three years.
Additional highlights of the SAT results for FCPS, as reported by the College Board, include the following:
FCPS students posted higher average scores than students in the state or nation by subgroup in Critical Reading, Mathematics, and Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS Asian students exceeded the state average for Asian students by 19 points in Critical Reading, 29 points in Mathematics, and 23 points in Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS Black students exceeded the state average for Black students by 42 points in Critical Reading, by 43 points in Mathematics, and by 42 points in Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS Hispanic students exceeded the state average for Hispanic students by 14 points in Critical Reading, by 19 points in Mathematics, and by 16 points in Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS White students exceeded the state average for White students by 40 points in Critical Reading, by 48 points in Mathematics, and by 44 points in Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS average scores increased 3 point in Critical Reading, increased 5 points in Mathematics, and increased 1 point in Writing when compared to 2011 results (see Table 1).
The state average score increased 3 points in Critical Reading, increased 4 points in Mathematics, and 2 points for Writing when compared to 2011 results (see Table 1).
The national average scores went down 3 points in all three areas when compared to 2011 results (see Table 1).
FCPS does an additional analysis of College Board data that includes only students from FCPS’ class of 2013 in its results(see Table 4). (College Board data may include the scores of students from other jurisdictions and students who are home schooled who took the SAT in Fairfax County high schools. The FCPS analysis uses the test scores of students who were members of the senior class in June 2013—based on the FCPS student information system— and race-ethnic designations taken from school registration records. The FCPS analysis excludes all non-FCPS students as well as students who were tested while enrolled in FCPS but who moved or may have been retained and were not part of the senior class.) Data from this FCPS analysis show an average critical reading score of 565, a mathematics score of 579, and a writing score of 554. According to FCPS, 76 percent of the FCPS class of 2013 took the SAT; when students attending alternative high schools are included in the calculation the percentage is 72 percent.
ACT Scores
The ACT tests are designed to assess the general educational development of high school students and the ability of high school students to complete college-level coursework. The tests represent a curriculum-based measure of college readiness in English, mathematics, reading, and science. A writing test is optional. According to data released by ACT, Inc., the number of FCPS students taking the ACT increased from 3,916 in 2012 to 4,029 in 2013, with average ACT scores increasing in English, mathematics, reading, science reasoning, and the composite. Table 5 shows the three-year trend of the division’s ACT average scores in comparison to the average scores of Virginia and nation.
FCPS has also released a set of ACT data separate from that reported by the ACT, Inc. The FCPS-compiled data are based on more accurately analyzed FCPS results. A comparison of ACT scores as reported by FCPS and as reported by ACT, Inc. is also included. According to FCPS, approximately 19 percent of the FCPS class of 2013 took the ACT.
Through collaboration with postsecondary institutions, ACT has established college readiness benchmark scores for designated college courses. (English Composition: 18 on ACT English test; Algebra: 22 on Mathematics test; Social Science: 22 on ACT Reading tests; and Biology: 23 on ACT Science test). Highlights of FCPS ACT results released by ACT, Inc., on these college readiness benchmarks include the following (see Table 6):
87 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests are ready for college-level coursework in English composition. That can be compared to 76 percent of students in Virginia and 64 percent of students nationwide.
76 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests are ready for college-level coursework in mathematics. That can be compared to 57 percent in Virginia and 44 percent nationwide.
70 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests are ready for college-level coursework in social science (based on reading scores). That can be compared to 57 percent in Virginia and 44 percent nationwide.
63 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests are ready for college-level coursework in science. That can be compared to 47 percent in Virginia and 36 percent nationwide.
54 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests met all four ACT benchmark scores. That can be compared to 37 percent in Virginia and 26 percent nationwide.
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Note: For more information, contact Kathy Oliver at 571-423-1405 or koliver@fcps.edu.
FCPS Students Continue to Post SAT and ACT Scores Above State, National Averages
Students in Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) class of 2013 outperformed their peers in Virginia and the nation on the SAT, according to results released by the Virginia Department of Education. FCPS scores are 42 points above the state’s average in Critical Reading, 57 points above the state’s average in Mathematics, and 47 points above the state’s average in Writing. SAT results compiled by the College Board show that FCPS students posted average scores of 554 in Critical Reading, 568 in Mathematics, and 541 in Writing for an overall composite score of 1663, up from last year’s overall composite score of 1660 (see Table 1). The state composite score was up 7 points and the national composite score down 3 points in comparison to last year’s scores.
10 schools in Fairfax County improved from last year in all three sections: Edison, Langley, Madison, Marshall, McLean, Mount Vernon, South Lakes, Stuart, West Springfield, and Woodson High Schools. Students at Stuart High Schools posted the greatest gains by increasing the school’s Critical Reading average by 23 points, the Mathematics average by 18 points and the Writing average by 17 points. Students at Woodson High School increased the Critical Reading average by 16 points, the Mathematics average by 9 points and the Writing average by 11 points. Students at Edison High School increased the Critical Reading average by 14 points, the Mathematics average by 10 points and the Writing average by 14 points (see Table 2).
Of the 25 high schools in FCPS, 18 saw an increase in their Critical Reading average, 16 saw an increase in their Mathematics average, and 10 saw an increase in their Writing average over the last year. Marshall and South Lakes High Schools made steady gains in all three areas over the last three years.
Additional highlights of the SAT results for FCPS, as reported by the College Board, include the following:
FCPS students posted higher average scores than students in the state or nation by subgroup in Critical Reading, Mathematics, and Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS Asian students exceeded the state average for Asian students by 19 points in Critical Reading, 29 points in Mathematics, and 23 points in Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS Black students exceeded the state average for Black students by 42 points in Critical Reading, by 43 points in Mathematics, and by 42 points in Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS Hispanic students exceeded the state average for Hispanic students by 14 points in Critical Reading, by 19 points in Mathematics, and by 16 points in Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS White students exceeded the state average for White students by 40 points in Critical Reading, by 48 points in Mathematics, and by 44 points in Writing (see Table 3).
FCPS average scores increased 3 point in Critical Reading, increased 5 points in Mathematics, and increased 1 point in Writing when compared to 2011 results (see Table 1).
The state average score increased 3 points in Critical Reading, increased 4 points in Mathematics, and 2 points for Writing when compared to 2011 results (see Table 1).
The national average scores went down 3 points in all three areas when compared to 2011 results (see Table 1).
FCPS does an additional analysis of College Board data that includes only students from FCPS’ class of 2013 in its results(see Table 4). (College Board data may include the scores of students from other jurisdictions and students who are home schooled who took the SAT in Fairfax County high schools. The FCPS analysis uses the test scores of students who were members of the senior class in June 2013—based on the FCPS student information system— and race-ethnic designations taken from school registration records. The FCPS analysis excludes all non-FCPS students as well as students who were tested while enrolled in FCPS but who moved or may have been retained and were not part of the senior class.) Data from this FCPS analysis show an average critical reading score of 565, a mathematics score of 579, and a writing score of 554. According to FCPS, 76 percent of the FCPS class of 2013 took the SAT; when students attending alternative high schools are included in the calculation the percentage is 72 percent.
ACT Scores
The ACT tests are designed to assess the general educational development of high school students and the ability of high school students to complete college-level coursework. The tests represent a curriculum-based measure of college readiness in English, mathematics, reading, and science. A writing test is optional. According to data released by ACT, Inc., the number of FCPS students taking the ACT increased from 3,916 in 2012 to 4,029 in 2013, with average ACT scores increasing in English, mathematics, reading, science reasoning, and the composite. Table 5 shows the three-year trend of the division’s ACT average scores in comparison to the average scores of Virginia and nation.
FCPS has also released a set of ACT data separate from that reported by the ACT, Inc. The FCPS-compiled data are based on more accurately analyzed FCPS results. A comparison of ACT scores as reported by FCPS and as reported by ACT, Inc. is also included. According to FCPS, approximately 19 percent of the FCPS class of 2013 took the ACT.
Through collaboration with postsecondary institutions, ACT has established college readiness benchmark scores for designated college courses. (English Composition: 18 on ACT English test; Algebra: 22 on Mathematics test; Social Science: 22 on ACT Reading tests; and Biology: 23 on ACT Science test). Highlights of FCPS ACT results released by ACT, Inc., on these college readiness benchmarks include the following (see Table 6):
87 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests are ready for college-level coursework in English composition. That can be compared to 76 percent of students in Virginia and 64 percent of students nationwide.
76 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests are ready for college-level coursework in mathematics. That can be compared to 57 percent in Virginia and 44 percent nationwide.
70 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests are ready for college-level coursework in social science (based on reading scores). That can be compared to 57 percent in Virginia and 44 percent nationwide.
63 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests are ready for college-level coursework in science. That can be compared to 47 percent in Virginia and 36 percent nationwide.
54 percent of FCPS students who took ACT tests met all four ACT benchmark scores. That can be compared to 37 percent in Virginia and 26 percent nationwide.
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Note: For more information, contact Kathy Oliver at 571-423-1405 or koliver@fcps.edu.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
Scorekeeper
()
Date: September 26, 2013 07:08PM
Interesting that South Lakes scores are now within two points of those at Westfield, given how angry some Westfield parents were a few years ago about getting moved to South Lakes.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 26, 2013 07:37PM
Did a quick comparison of 2013 scores vs. 2012. A lot of sharp increases and decreases in some schools. Are they playing around with who is taking the tests?
TJ: 2194 +8
Langley: 1837 +25
Woodson: 1792 +38
McLean: 1781 +26
Oakton: 1764 +11
Madison: 1753 +23
Marshall: 1718 +16
West Springfield: 1665 +5
Robinson: 1659 -7
Chantilly: 1643 -1
Lake Braddock: 1636 -33
Westfield: 1632 +9
South Lakes: 1630 +21
Fairfax: 1621 +8
Herndon: 1602 -39
Centreville: 1593 -44
South County: 1593 -10
West Potomac: 1562 +6
Edison: 1534 +36
Stuart: 1529 +58
Hayfield: 1506 -13
Annandale: 1493 -23
Falls Church: 1487 +2
Lee: 1479 +11
Mount Vernon: 1417 +17
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2013 07:37PM by newgatedenizen.
TJ: 2194 +8
Langley: 1837 +25
Woodson: 1792 +38
McLean: 1781 +26
Oakton: 1764 +11
Madison: 1753 +23
Marshall: 1718 +16
West Springfield: 1665 +5
Robinson: 1659 -7
Chantilly: 1643 -1
Lake Braddock: 1636 -33
Westfield: 1632 +9
South Lakes: 1630 +21
Fairfax: 1621 +8
Herndon: 1602 -39
Centreville: 1593 -44
South County: 1593 -10
West Potomac: 1562 +6
Edison: 1534 +36
Stuart: 1529 +58
Hayfield: 1506 -13
Annandale: 1493 -23
Falls Church: 1487 +2
Lee: 1479 +11
Mount Vernon: 1417 +17
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2013 07:37PM by newgatedenizen.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
Saturn
()
Date: September 26, 2013 07:41PM
Really Langley and Woodson at the top?
God, Oakton sure has fallen apart.
God, Oakton sure has fallen apart.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
Jimmy Womble
()
Date: September 26, 2013 08:03PM
Please post the percentage of hispanics and african americans at each school.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
WestfieldDad
()
Date: September 26, 2013 08:56PM
Scorekeeper Wrote:
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> Interesting that South Lakes scores are now within
> two points of those at Westfield, given how angry
> some Westfield parents were a few years ago about
> getting moved to South Lakes.
What do you expect when you mix all of Fox Mill, half of Floris, just the kids from South Lakes who take SATs, and add a dusting of North Reston kids escaping "our perfectly SES balanced" Herndon "for IB".
Crybaby Kathy got snookered; Stu and Bruce got keys to Reston.
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> Interesting that South Lakes scores are now within
> two points of those at Westfield, given how angry
> some Westfield parents were a few years ago about
> getting moved to South Lakes.
What do you expect when you mix all of Fox Mill, half of Floris, just the kids from South Lakes who take SATs, and add a dusting of North Reston kids escaping "our perfectly SES balanced" Herndon "for IB".
Crybaby Kathy got snookered; Stu and Bruce got keys to Reston.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:49PM
Jimmy Womble Wrote:
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> Please post the percentage of hispanics and
> african americans at each school.
%Hispanic
45.08 Stuart
43.92 Falls Church
36.61 Mount Vernon
34.58 Annandale
32.77 Lee
30.27 Edison
28.32 Herndon
27.86 West Potomac
20.36 South Lakes
19.29 Hayfield
19.05 Fairfax
16.86 Marshall
16.81 Westfield
16.54 Lake Braddock
14.94 Centreville
14.21 West Springfield
13.91 Robinson
12.49 Chantilly
11 McLean
10.67 South County
9.96 Madison
9.06 Oakton
8.42 Woodson
4.59 Langley
2.2 TJ
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> Please post the percentage of hispanics and
> african americans at each school.
%Hispanic
45.08 Stuart
43.92 Falls Church
36.61 Mount Vernon
34.58 Annandale
32.77 Lee
30.27 Edison
28.32 Herndon
27.86 West Potomac
20.36 South Lakes
19.29 Hayfield
19.05 Fairfax
16.86 Marshall
16.81 Westfield
16.54 Lake Braddock
14.94 Centreville
14.21 West Springfield
13.91 Robinson
12.49 Chantilly
11 McLean
10.67 South County
9.96 Madison
9.06 Oakton
8.42 Woodson
4.59 Langley
2.2 TJ
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:52PM
%Black
29.18 Mount Vernon
27.95 Hayfield
20.06 Edison
19.91 West Potomac
18.12 Annandale
15.66 South County
14.1 Lee
13.76 South Lakes
12.08 Stuart
10.29 Fairfax
10.22 Westfield
8.91 Centreville
8.61 Herndon
8.36 Falls Church
6.47 Chantilly
6.3 West Springfield
5.93 Lake Braddock
5.4 Robinson
4.82 Marshall
3.97 Oakton
3.44 Woodson
2.99 McLean
2.16 Madison
1.43 TJ
1.18 Langley
29.18 Mount Vernon
27.95 Hayfield
20.06 Edison
19.91 West Potomac
18.12 Annandale
15.66 South County
14.1 Lee
13.76 South Lakes
12.08 Stuart
10.29 Fairfax
10.22 Westfield
8.91 Centreville
8.61 Herndon
8.36 Falls Church
6.47 Chantilly
6.3 West Springfield
5.93 Lake Braddock
5.4 Robinson
4.82 Marshall
3.97 Oakton
3.44 Woodson
2.99 McLean
2.16 Madison
1.43 TJ
1.18 Langley
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:55PM
% Asian
57.69 TJ
31.74 Centreville
26.21 Fairfax
26.11 Lee
26 Chantilly
22.76 Woodson
22.52 Annandale
22.44 Falls Church
22.18 Oakton
21.39 Westfield
20.94 McLean
20.87 Langley
19.24 Lake Braddock
18 South County
16.85 Stuart
16.64 Robinson
16.44 Marshall
16 West Springfield
14.13 Hayfield
13.57 Edison
13.23 Herndon
12.83 Madison
12.76 South Lakes
7.41 West Potomac
5.88 Mount Vernon
57.69 TJ
31.74 Centreville
26.21 Fairfax
26.11 Lee
26 Chantilly
22.76 Woodson
22.52 Annandale
22.44 Falls Church
22.18 Oakton
21.39 Westfield
20.94 McLean
20.87 Langley
19.24 Lake Braddock
18 South County
16.85 Stuart
16.64 Robinson
16.44 Marshall
16 West Springfield
14.13 Hayfield
13.57 Edison
13.23 Herndon
12.83 Madison
12.76 South Lakes
7.41 West Potomac
5.88 Mount Vernon
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
real request
()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:56PM
enough with this racist crap correlation to income or easier % of reduced lunch
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
wowjj
()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:56PM
Anyone know the sol scores OF Mount Vernon? Might be low since it has so many blacks n
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 26, 2013 09:58PM
% White
69.9 Madison
69.5 Langley
60.95 Woodson
60.46 Oakton
60.25 McLean
59.18 Robinson
59.07 West Springfield
56.17 Marshall
54.04 Lake Braddock
50.98 Chantilly
50.77 South County
47.44 South Lakes
47.07 Westfield
45.49 Herndon
40.86 West Potomac
40.61 Centreville
39.63 Fairfax
34.6 TJ
33.89 Hayfield
31.95 Edison
23.92 Stuart
23.8 Lee
22.55 Mount Vernon
22.14 Falls Church
21.88 Annandale
69.9 Madison
69.5 Langley
60.95 Woodson
60.46 Oakton
60.25 McLean
59.18 Robinson
59.07 West Springfield
56.17 Marshall
54.04 Lake Braddock
50.98 Chantilly
50.77 South County
47.44 South Lakes
47.07 Westfield
45.49 Herndon
40.86 West Potomac
40.61 Centreville
39.63 Fairfax
34.6 TJ
33.89 Hayfield
31.95 Edison
23.92 Stuart
23.8 Lee
22.55 Mount Vernon
22.14 Falls Church
21.88 Annandale
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
newgatedenizen
()
Date: September 26, 2013 10:13PM
real request Wrote:
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> enough with this racist crap correlation to income
> or easier % of reduced lunch
% Free or Reduced Lunch
61.82 Stuart
57.34 Falls Church
52.54 Mount Vernon
51.73 Annandale
50.76 Lee
40.32 West Potomac
37.84 Edison
33.41 Herndon
27.92 South Lakes
27.79 Hayfield
26.89 Fairfax
23.34 Centreville
22.44 Westfield
17.76 South County
17.18 Chantilly
16.86 Marshall
16.47 Lake Braddock
12.96 West Springfield
12.48 Robinson
11.76 Oakton
10.32 McLean
8.96 Woodson
8.81 Madison
2.37 TJ
2.22 Langley
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> enough with this racist crap correlation to income
> or easier % of reduced lunch
% Free or Reduced Lunch
61.82 Stuart
57.34 Falls Church
52.54 Mount Vernon
51.73 Annandale
50.76 Lee
40.32 West Potomac
37.84 Edison
33.41 Herndon
27.92 South Lakes
27.79 Hayfield
26.89 Fairfax
23.34 Centreville
22.44 Westfield
17.76 South County
17.18 Chantilly
16.86 Marshall
16.47 Lake Braddock
12.96 West Springfield
12.48 Robinson
11.76 Oakton
10.32 McLean
8.96 Woodson
8.81 Madison
2.37 TJ
2.22 Langley
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
sorryturd
()
Date: September 27, 2013 06:49AM
real request Wrote:
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> enough with this racist crap correlation to income
> or easier % of reduced lunch
it's not racist crap. Which schools have the highest scores? That's easy. The ones with the higest percentage of whites and Asians. Duh.
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> enough with this racist crap correlation to income
> or easier % of reduced lunch
it's not racist crap. Which schools have the highest scores? That's easy. The ones with the higest percentage of whites and Asians. Duh.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
Jared k
()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:06AM
So Stuart and falls Church niggas and spics are smarter than mount Vernon?
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 26, 2013 10:13PM
real request Wrote:
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> enough with this racist crap correlation to income
> or easier % of reduced lunch
% Free or Reduced Lunch
61.82 Stuart
57.34 Falls Church
52.54 Mount Vernon
51.73 Annandale
50.76 Lee
40.32 West Potomac
37.84 Edison
33.41 Herndon
27.92 South Lakes
27.79 Hayfield
26.89 Fairfax
23.34 Centreville
22.44 Westfield
17.76 South County
17.18 Chantilly
16.86 Marshall
16.47 Lake Braddock
12.96 West Springfield
12.48 Robinson
11.76 Oakton
10.32 McLean
8.96 Woodson
8.81 Madison
2.37 TJ
2.22 Langley
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 26, 2013 10:13PM
real request Wrote:
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> enough with this racist crap correlation to income
> or easier % of reduced lunch
% Free or Reduced Lunch
61.82 Stuart
57.34 Falls Church
52.54 Mount Vernon
51.73 Annandale
50.76 Lee
40.32 West Potomac
37.84 Edison
33.41 Herndon
27.92 South Lakes
27.79 Hayfield
26.89 Fairfax
23.34 Centreville
22.44 Westfield
17.76 South County
17.18 Chantilly
16.86 Marshall
16.47 Lake Braddock
12.96 West Springfield
12.48 Robinson
11.76 Oakton
10.32 McLean
8.96 Woodson
8.81 Madison
2.37 TJ
2.22 Langley
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
reason
()
Date: September 27, 2013 09:13PM
The SAT is not a required test. What we need to see are the PSAT scores since all students take those. Those scores would be much more telling.
One reason that SAT scores are up is that more and more students are going to NOVA instead of to four year schools. These students do not take the SAT test because they are not required to go to NOVA. Why pay $60 for a test that you don't need? This means that only students who are serious about a four year school are taking the test (thus the scores go up).
We need to know how many students took the SAT from year to year. That would help us to better understand the statistics. Statistics viewed in isolation don't tell us a whole lot.
One reason that SAT scores are up is that more and more students are going to NOVA instead of to four year schools. These students do not take the SAT test because they are not required to go to NOVA. Why pay $60 for a test that you don't need? This means that only students who are serious about a four year school are taking the test (thus the scores go up).
We need to know how many students took the SAT from year to year. That would help us to better understand the statistics. Statistics viewed in isolation don't tell us a whole lot.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
Michelle Rhee
()
Date: September 27, 2013 09:35PM
That's actually one of the best points made on this thread. It's almost, but not exactly, like survivor bias when evaluating stocks.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
Jhoon Rhee
()
Date: September 27, 2013 10:53PM
PSAT is also voluntary. Students often cram for the SAT and not the PSAT.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
PSAT is paid for by county
()
Date: September 28, 2013 02:21PM
No, PSAT is not voluntary. It is given in every high school in grade 11 (paid for by the county and given during school hours).
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
on the PSAT
()
Date: September 28, 2013 02:27PM
Here is evidence that the PSAT is given in school:
http://www.fcps.edu/southcountyhs/docs/psatfrm.pdf
It is actually given in grades 9, 10, and 11 (and paid for by the county). If a 9th grader wants the score report back, there is a fee, but no fee to take the test. FCPS students get lots of practice with the test and format before they take the SAT (which they pay for and take on a Saturday). The county pays for this.
http://www.fcps.edu/southcountyhs/docs/psatfrm.pdf
It is actually given in grades 9, 10, and 11 (and paid for by the county). If a 9th grader wants the score report back, there is a fee, but no fee to take the test. FCPS students get lots of practice with the test and format before they take the SAT (which they pay for and take on a Saturday). The county pays for this.
Re: SAT SCORES ARE UP
Posted by:
sat ff
()
Date: August 05, 2015 07:00PM
bet Ms.Kning is mad she can't cheat like she did with the MATH SOLS