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Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: The Liberal Left ()
Date: October 10, 2010 12:13AM

There are several reasons to vote for the democrat Gerry Connolly -

1. Keep Pelosi as Speaker of the House

2. Show your support for Pelosi and Obama

3. Connolly always votes to spend money now and let your kids pay for it

4. Connolly votes in favor of the health care tax

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Johnny Walker ()
Date: October 10, 2010 12:16AM

I have my doubts as to your sincerity, good sir.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Bill ()
Date: October 10, 2010 05:37AM

Reason #1: He isn't Fimian.

Reason #2:

If Tom Davis hadn't stepped down we would have had a better race.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Eastsider ()
Date: October 10, 2010 06:43AM

I've got to agree that this race would have been so much better if the Republicans hadn't fielded a joke candidate like Fimian.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: ByeByeConMan ()
Date: October 10, 2010 06:46AM

Fimian's gonna help send the illegals back to where they came from.:)

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: T2T ()
Date: October 10, 2010 11:09AM

Correct. Keith Fimian is in support of Corey Stewart's efforts in P.W. county to thin the herd of illegals. To date, 600+ and counting have been turned over to I.C.E. In fact, I've heard that I.C.E. has mentioned something about holding off on being so aggressive on turning these illegals over to them as it's overwhelming their system.

What's sad is that poor old Gerry Connolly completely ignored the issue of illegals when he was Chairman of the Board for Fairfax. Now, just take a quick drive through Centreville and realize what shit-hole he allowed to happen to that place in just the course of 10 years. Very sad.



ByeByeConMan Wrote:
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> Fimian's gonna help send the illegals back to
> where they came from.:)

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Scally Wag ()
Date: October 10, 2010 06:10PM

Eastsider Wrote:
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> I've got to agree that this race would have been
> so much better if the Republicans hadn't fielded a
> joke candidate like Fimian.

When they have nothing to say about the issues, these drive-by sheeple in love with the "D" resort to name-calling. Joke candidate. He's stupid. He's extreme. He's the boogey man. Of course, they're wrong, and it's just easier to say what mommy tells them to say.

Fimian is a fine candidate, yet to be seen how good a Congressman he will. Connolly, on the other hand, has shown that he lies as a Congressman (fiscal conservative MY ASS) and lies as a candidate (Fimian wants a $250,000 raise).

The tide has turned. The "D" are going to get their asses trashed in Nov. Retarded Northern Virginia will, hopefully, do the right thing.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Hypocrite ()
Date: October 10, 2010 06:49PM

Says the person who called Connolly "a little shit" and "needs to be slammed every fucking day".

I don't support Connolly but I don't like hypocrites either.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: say ()
Date: October 10, 2010 07:26PM

You morons.

Neither party wants illegals sent home.

The only reason illegals may leave is economic, ie. they can't find work. There is some evidence that some are already leaving. As it gets worse here, more will go home.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Goofless Toofless ()
Date: October 10, 2010 11:52PM

Hypocrite Wrote:
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> Says the person who called Connolly "a little
> shit" and "needs to be slammed every fucking
> day".
>
> I don't support Connolly but I don't like
> hypocrites either.

I and other have stated why Connolly is a shitty "leader". Have you explained to us why Fimian is a joke? No, of course, not.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Big Supporter ()
Date: October 10, 2010 11:53PM

Is Creigh Deeds running again this time, I think he can win if he is.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Sigh ()
Date: October 12, 2010 11:38AM

Unfortunately Fimian IS an extremist - he's anti-abortion in all cases (hardcore catholic pro-lifer, so that includes rape/incest, but not the death penalty). He is also opposed to birth control - BIRTH CONTROL - and thinks its an appropriate use of government power over individual citizens private decisions to regulate that. This guy isn't small government as he claims, he's just selective - he wants less regulation of business, less regulation of environmental standards, and more regulation of our private lives. He's been trying like hell to avoid any and all questions on these issues, because he knows his views are not in line with the majority of people he wants to "represent". If you are okay putting someone in power in congress with that kind of ideology, rock on.
I've been a registered Republican, and voting that way, since I was 18, but goddamn I am getting sick of this theocratic bullshiat the GOP keeps pulling.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 12, 2010 11:41AM

Sigh Wrote:
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> Unfortunately Fimian IS an extremist - he's
> anti-abortion in all cases (hardcore catholic
> pro-lifer, so that includes rape/incest, but not
> the death penalty).
Good. Killing people because they were conceived by rape or incest makes no sense.

Sigh Wrote:
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> He is also opposed to birth
> control - BIRTH CONTROL - and thinks its an
> appropriate use of government power over
> individual citizens private decisions to regulate
> that.

He is against forms of birth control that are actually used to abort children. I'm all for banning murder.

Sigh Wrote:
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> This guy isn't small government as he
> claims, he's just selective - he wants less
> regulation of business, less regulation of
> environmental standards, and more regulation of
> our private lives.

Sorry, banning murder is not opposed to the idea of "small government".

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: October 12, 2010 12:02PM

The Liberal Left Wrote:
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> There are several reasons to vote for the democrat
> Gerry Connolly -
>
> 1. Keep Pelosi as Speaker of the House
>
> 2. Show your support for Pelosi and Obama
>
> 3. Connolly always votes to spend money now and
> let your kids pay for it
>
> 4. Connolly votes in favor of the health care tax

#3 is how I can get back at these little fuckers. I'll show them.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Krispy Kringle ()
Date: October 12, 2010 12:19PM

Sigh Wrote:

> I've been a registered Republican,

There is not registration of political affiliation in VA

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 12, 2010 01:01PM

Krispy Kringle Wrote:
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> Sigh Wrote:
>
> > I've been a registered Republican,
>
> There is not registration of political affiliation
> in VA

Which of course makes me wonder if the whole post was written by a Democrat supporter.



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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Mr. Pelosihkevc ()
Date: October 12, 2010 01:21PM

T2T Wrote:
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> Correct. Keith Fimian is in support of Corey
> Stewart's efforts in P.W. county to thin the herd
> of illegals. To date, 600+ and counting have been
> turned over to I.C.E. In fact, I've heard that
> I.C.E. has mentioned something about holding off
> on being so aggressive on turning these illegals
> over to them as it's overwhelming their system.
>
> What's sad is that poor old Gerry Connolly
> completely ignored the issue of illegals when he
> was Chairman of the Board for Fairfax. Now, just
> take a quick drive through Centreville and realize
> what shit-hole he allowed to happen to that place
> in just the course of 10 years. Very sad.
>
>
>
> ByeByeConMan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fimian's gonna help send the illegals back to
> > where they came from.:)


All true, Connally is a career politition who climbs up anyone's back including Fairfax Countys to futher his position. Couldnt even own up to a hit and run in a parking lot, that says alot

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Soften Your Heart ()
Date: October 12, 2010 01:23PM

Sigh Wrote:
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> Unfortunately Fimian IS an extremist - he's
> anti-abortion in all cases (hardcore catholic
> pro-lifer, so that includes rape/incest, but not
> the death penalty). He is also opposed to birth
> control - BIRTH CONTROL - and thinks its an
> appropriate use of government power over
> individual citizens private decisions to regulate
> that. This guy isn't small government as he
> claims, he's just selective - he wants less
> regulation of business, less regulation of
> environmental standards, and more regulation of
> our private lives. He's been trying like hell to
> avoid any and all questions on these issues,
> because he knows his views are not in line with
> the majority of people he wants to "represent".
> If you are okay putting someone in power in
> congress with that kind of ideology, rock on.
> I've been a registered Republican, and voting that
> way, since I was 18, but goddamn I am getting sick
> of this theocratic bullshiat the GOP keeps
> pulling.

Theocratic? Are you fucking retarded? Look at Iran....that's Theocratic. Just because of the desire that our country follow two important principles: Pro-life and Pro Marriage (not the gay dream)? Two big issues most practicing Christians and Jews would support. Two important issues that actually transcend religion. Athiests can understand the implications of killing one's own and breaking from 2000 plus years of man/woman tradition. Our country was founded on the idea that God created us and that there is a naturally morality that we should all follow regardless of the religion we choose that accepts God as our creator. When we turn our back on God altogether....when we ignore them, we are in big trouble because there is no end to the evil that can and will take place.

Hardcore Catholic Pro-lifer. Again, this is an ignorant statement. Practicing Catholics can NOT be pro-choice. They can't. If they say they are, it's the same as someone who claims to be Chinese when they are African American. Yes, many Catholics run around saying they are pro-choice, pro-gay sex, etc., but they are just showing they're ignorance. They aren't following the Catholic Church on these issues and they are not debatable as the church believes them to be intrinsically evil. Being a Catholic includes being pro-life.

And about Keith being extreme? Give me a break. I still think crushing a freshly born babies skull with a forceps is a hell of a lot more extreme than letting the little guy live.

By the way, Fimian is not a one or two issue candidate. So, he's pro-life and against contraception. Most of our sexual problems flourished after the dawn of contraception or at least since Kinsey began peddling his lies which contributed to the sheeple acceptance of contraception.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: jerbs ()
Date: October 12, 2010 01:55PM

you should consider moving to the deep south. they will better understand your way of life.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: October 12, 2010 03:27PM

Kardinal Wrote:



> Good. Killing people because they were conceived
> by rape or incest makes no sense.

It is about control over the mothers life. If a baby is conceived by rape or incest, she should have the legal right to do what she feels is best. You I suspect are a man and feel that since you can not get pregnant, you will force your ideals on those that can. Pretty self centered if you ask me.

And if I may rant, 50 percent of white babies are born out of wedlock, 70% of minority babies today are born out of wedlock. With divorce rates high and dead beat dads all over the place - why don't you work on THAT issue. Teach proper contraception in the schools etc. Encourage healthy behavior etc

As one college professor said on the radio a couple weeks ago "women at Carnegie Mellon do not get pregnant". So let us focus on keeping other single ladies not at Carnegie Mellon informed about all the options - pre and post natal. Cut the out of wedlock birth rate in half. That is a real goal and a worthy one. Complaining about abortion and bitching about condom programs will not achieve this goal.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: October 12, 2010 03:37PM

Soften Your Heart Wrote:
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> Sigh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----

> Hardcore Catholic Pro-lifer. Again, this is an
> ignorant statement. Practicing Catholics can NOT
> be pro-choice. They can't. If they say they are,
> it's the same as someone who claims to be Chinese
> when they are African American. Yes, many
> Catholics run around saying they are pro-choice,
> pro-gay sex, etc., but they are just showing
> they're ignorance. They aren't following the
> Catholic Church on these issues and they are not
> debatable as the church believes them to be
> intrinsically evil. Being a Catholic includes
> being pro-life.
>
That is why more and more people everyday are calling themselves ex-catholics.

My mother was a devout Catholic. Married to the same man 40 years until death did they part. She had enough kids to fill up a pew and we did. Sent us kids to catholic school, CCD etc. But when it came to this issue she was adamantly against the church and let them know it with letters to the Arch Diocese and arguments with the clergy. "Allow women to become Priests and the rest of the women will fall in line with the rest of your beliefs" she would say.


the Catholic Church will do whatever they can to keep women down and men elevated and sadly that is not the way of the world anymore.

Google "Cardinal Newman Society" - the Teabaggers of the Catholic faith.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: mjcc1987 ()
Date: October 12, 2010 03:42PM

Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly Posted by: ByeByeConMan ()
Date: October 10, 2010 06:46AM
Fimian's gonna help send the illegals back to where they came from.:)
-----------------
Prince William County?


By the way, VOTE GERRY

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 12, 2010 03:45PM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> the Catholic Church will do whatever they can to
> keep women down and men elevated and sadly that is
> not the way of the world anymore.

No they won't. The Catholic Church has done more for women's dignity in history than any other institution in the history of man. Men and women are different. You want men to start bearing children, too?

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 12, 2010 03:47PM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> It is about control over the mothers life. If a
> baby is conceived by rape or incest, she should
> have the legal right to do what she feels is best.

Yes she should...except where it involves killing another person. Mothers can't kill children OUTSIDE the womb when "she feels it is best", they shouldn't be able to do it inside the womb either. Murder is murder, before or after birth.

> That is a
> real goal and a worthy one. Complaining about
> abortion and bitching about condom programs will
> not achieve this goal.

Sorry, killing the children will is not a viable solution to the problem either. There is much we can do, but killing people is not the way to solve it.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: T2T ()
Date: October 12, 2010 03:51PM

Unfortunately, it was Gerry Connolly's careless attitude towards illegal immigrants that assisted in allowing them to populate like rabbits in the area. At least other counties are trying to do something about the issue. Fairfax county is turning the other cheek.


mjcc1987 Wrote:
> -----------------
> Prince William County?
>
>
> By the way, VOTE GERRY

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: October 12, 2010 03:57PM

Kardinal Wrote:
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> Radiophile Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----

>
> No they won't. The Catholic Church has done more
> for women's dignity in history than any other
> institution in the history of man. Men and women
> are different. You want men to start bearing
> children, too?

Yuo are comical. Look at the plight of Nuns. Many who work for the church for decades. Then when old and can no longer work they are practically thrown out on the streets. The never paid into social security so they dont get that. While Priests are sent to homes to live out their lives in dignity and are well taken care of, the Nuns have no guaranty and most live truly in poverty when they can no longer work. The Catholic Church's treatment of Nuns is shameful.

I can give you many more examples of the Catholics favoring men over women.

And as far as men giving birth, I can assure you that if it were possible, the Catholic Church's position on "choices" would be far different.

A local group of nuns has not had a Noviate (spelling?) since the late 1960s

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 12, 2010 04:04PM

Radiophile Wrote:
> Yuo are comical. Look at the plight of Nuns. Many
> who work for the church for decades. Then when old
> and can no longer work they are practically thrown
> out on the streets. The never paid into social
> security so they dont get that. While Priests are
> sent to homes to live out their lives in dignity
> and are well taken care of, the Nuns have no
> guaranty and most live truly in poverty when they
> can no longer work. The Catholic Church's
> treatment of Nuns is shameful.

That's simply not true. Even the most cursory Google search indicates the retirement homes that exist for nuns all over the world, and the care they receive at the cost of their order. I'm sure you can find some incidents, but it's not as blanket as you say it is.

> And as far as men giving birth, I can assure you
> that if it were possible, the Catholic Church's
> position on "choices" would be far different.

No it would not. That's a spurious and foolish assumption on your part of the reasons for the stance the church has taken defending LIFE. And you'll find many of the nuns who so concern you, and women whose rights you champion, agreeing with the church that killing people in the womb is not a solution.

> A local group of nuns has not had a Noviate
> (spelling?) since the late 1960s

And other local groups of nuns (Carmelites in Alexandria) regularly do. And the very orthodox Dominicans in Michigan famously do as well.



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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Bill ()
Date: October 12, 2010 04:23PM

Soften Your Heart Wrote:
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>
> Hardcore Catholic Pro-lifer. Again, this is an
> ignorant statement. Practicing Catholics can NOT
> be pro-choice. They can't. If they say they are,
> it's the same as someone who claims to be Chinese
> when they are African American. Yes, many
> Catholics run around saying they are pro-choice,
> pro-gay sex, etc., but they are just showing
> they're ignorance. They aren't following the
> Catholic Church on these issues and they are not
> debatable as the church believes them to be
> intrinsically evil. Being a Catholic includes
> being pro-life.

Congratulations. You have single handedly undone all the progress made by Catholic politicians in the 20th century. Like it or not the reason that Catholics were a pariah on the national political scene was that there was an assumption by certain bigoted Americans that a Catholic politician would be loyal to the dictates of the Roman Catholic Church first. Politicians like Al Smith and JFK worked hard to counter this myth, arguing that they would not blindly follow the dictates of the church. Now you are arguing that a "practicing Catholic" is obliged to follow the dictates of the church, even if it runs counter to American legal, historical and cultural norms.

For those who care to research it, historical views on abortion have changed over time, both within the Catholic church and within the Anglo-American legal system. Surprisingly Virginia was among the states which legalized some abortions prior to the Roe v. Wade decision.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: yepp ()
Date: October 12, 2010 04:31PM

well said bill. if only the catholic church realized that we aren't living in the dark ages anymore, then perhaps they would be more widely accepted by others than the god fearing sheeple.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 12, 2010 04:35PM

yepp Wrote:
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> well said bill. if only the catholic church
> realized that we aren't living in the dark ages
> anymore, then perhaps they would be more widely
> accepted by others than the god fearing sheeple.

Sorry, what is right and what is wrong does not change. Sometimes those rights and wrongs (e.g. murder, abortion) are so very fundamental that we enshrine them in our laws.

Bill Wrote:
> For those who care to research it, historical
> views on abortion have changed over time, both
> within the Catholic church...

No, they haven't. And yes, I've heard these claims before, and no, they're still inaccurate.

As for Catholic politicians, they're not beholden to the Church to implement church law or enforce that everyone be Catholic. But ALL peoples are beholden to implement in civil law what is reflected in natural law. From this we see the prohibition not to murder, to respect the privacy and property of others, and the like. Just because one agrees with the Church on what should and should not be illegal does not mean one is beholden to it, nor that it is necessarily the reason for it.

And why is a Catholic less welcome to bring his religiously-informed views to the table than an atheist is welcome to bring his religiously-informed views to the table?

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: yuck ()
Date: October 12, 2010 04:41PM

let's just keep church and state separate, mkay? i don't want your kid touching priests and anywhere near me. thanks.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Jesus Loves You ()
Date: October 12, 2010 05:09PM

yuck Wrote:
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> i don't want your kid touching priests and
> anywhere near me. thanks.

As usual, an ignorant statement. More anti-Catholicism. Same bigotry. Same smear.

Back to Gerry CONman. He's adamently pro-choice and, therefore, Catholic in name only.

To the person with a mother who was Catholic for 40 years and pro-women priests and, I gather, pro-choice:

It's great she stayed married and with the church. But it sounds as though she was seriously short-changed in Catholicism. And just because you go to church or keep a marriage together or consider yourself "a good person", you can still be wrong and believe/live immoral values. Look at the stereotypical mafia. Wearing the religious mask but bubbling with evil inside. I'm not saying your mom was evil....of course now. And I cannot judge what was in her heart. But I can say that a person expressing such beliefs in supporting abortion, in particular, is at the very least misinformed. Actually, married priests and female priests may be one of those issues that a respectful Catholic can differ on as same are not intrinsic evils. However, when someone actually supports disobedience to the Church by being a Catholic "female priest' (there are instances where this has apparently occurred with some renegade "Catholics"), that's just opening the door to and inviting Satan to come right in.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: christ cookie ()
Date: October 12, 2010 05:40PM

yeah, but catholics are the biggest mysogynists. it's a surprise why women even go to church. oh yeah, it's because their traditional husbands will beat them.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Portsmouth Rules! ()
Date: October 12, 2010 05:48PM

christ cookie Wrote:
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> yeah, but catholics are the biggest mysogynists.
> it's a surprise why women even go to church. oh
> yeah, it's because their traditional husbands will
> beat them.
If you are serious, you really need to do some reading and get out of the dark on this. But I expect you're just having a little "fun". Sad and tragic.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: village idiot ()
Date: October 12, 2010 05:58PM

This whole Fimian is against contraceptives or whatever else is nothing more than an effort to take the focus off of how Connolly voted right in line with Pelosi. Since he can't run on his record, he has to confuse the issues and hope people are to dumb to notice, which apparently they are. Seriously, even if Fimian does support that stuff, NO chance that he gets a law passed supporting that in Congress so it is a moot point.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Radiophile ()
Date: October 12, 2010 07:15PM

Jesus Loves You Wrote:
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> yuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> It's great she stayed married and with the church.
> But it sounds as though she was seriously
> short-changed in Catholicism. And just because you
> go to church or keep a marriage together or
> consider yourself "a good person", you can still
> be wrong and believe/live immoral values. Look at
> the stereotypical mafia. Wearing the religious
> mask but bubbling with evil inside. I'm not saying
> your mom was evil....of course now. And I cannot
> judge what was in her heart. But I can say that a
> person expressing such beliefs in supporting
> abortion, in particular, is at the very least
> misinformed. Actually, married priests and female
> priests may be one of those issues that a
> respectful Catholic can differ on as same are not
> intrinsic evils. However, when someone actually
> supports disobedience to the Church by being a
> Catholic "female priest' (there are instances
> where this has apparently occurred with some
> renegade "Catholics"), that's just opening the
> door to and inviting Satan to come right in.

Exactly. That is why the Sacrament of Priesthood is only offered to men. Funny how men made the rules and they decided Preists need a penis to do their job.

Years ago Pope JPII made the pilgramage to Fatima to Cannonize the two shepherd children. In front of the church there is a bullet proof glass type room for which the pontiff was to offer service. As I watched this tv, before papa entered, a who line of cardinal and bishops etc took their seats behind the podium. Then a lady walked in, a cloistered nun. She was the only surviving one of the shepherd children that Mary appeared to on that infamous day.

Then the pope walked in. And all the people in the room lined up to kiss his ring etc. Then the nun walked over and kissed the Popes ring.

"Wait! She was the chosen one" I thought. Mary appeared before her, not him. He should kiss her ring or something. But despite her being chosen by God, as legend says, she is still kisses the ring of a man who was elected in a popularity contest. But that is the Catholic way.



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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Bill ()
Date: October 12, 2010 09:47PM

Kardinal Wrote:
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> yepp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > well said bill. if only the catholic church
> > realized that we aren't living in the dark ages
> > anymore, then perhaps they would be more widely
> > accepted by others than the god fearing
> sheeple.
>
> Sorry, what is right and what is wrong does not
> change. Sometimes those rights and wrongs (e.g.
> murder, abortion) are so very fundamental that we
> enshrine them in our laws.
>
> Bill Wrote:
> > For those who care to research it, historical
> > views on abortion have changed over time, both
> > within the Catholic church...
>
> No, they haven't. And yes, I've heard these
> claims before, and no, they're still inaccurate.
>
> As for Catholic politicians, they're not beholden
> to the Church to implement church law or enforce
> that everyone be Catholic. But ALL peoples are
> beholden to implement in civil law what is
> reflected in natural law. From this we see the
> prohibition not to murder, to respect the privacy
> and property of others, and the like. Just
> because one agrees with the Church on what should
> and should not be illegal does not mean one is
> beholden to it, nor that it is necessarily the
> reason for it.
>
> And why is a Catholic less welcome to bring his
> religiously-informed views to the table than an
> atheist is welcome to bring his
> religiously-informed views to the table?


Silly me to assume that something that something from Catholic University was actually accurate. For those who care to check out what Prof. Pennington said for themselves, the website is http://faculty.cua.edu/Pennington/Law111/CatholicHistory.htm

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: I don't get $12 :( ()
Date: October 12, 2010 10:03PM

Sigh Wrote:
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> Unfortunately Fimian IS an extremist - he's
> anti-abortion in all cases (hardcore catholic
> pro-lifer, so that includes rape/incest, but not
> the death penalty). He is also opposed to birth
> control - BIRTH CONTROL - and thinks its an
> appropriate use of government power over
> individual citizens private decisions to regulate
> that. This guy isn't small government as he
> claims, he's just selective - he wants less
> regulation of business, less regulation of
> environmental standards, and more regulation of
> our private lives. He's been trying like hell to
> avoid any and all questions on these issues,
> because he knows his views are not in line with
> the majority of people he wants to "represent".
> If you are okay putting someone in power in
> congress with that kind of ideology, rock on.
> I've been a registered Republican, and voting that
> way, since I was 18, but goddamn I am getting sick
> of this theocratic bullshiat the GOP keeps
> pulling.

So Connolly is paying $12 an hour for you to write this BS on all the blogs in Northern VA? You are far overpaid. And after the election, even if he wins, you will be JOBLESS. Ask those who tried to follow Gerry from Fairfax to Capitol Hill in 2008. It was bloody.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 12, 2010 10:08PM

Bill Wrote:
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> Silly me to assume that something that something
> from Catholic University was actually accurate.

It's not. Sometimes people are wrong, even those who should be right.

> For those who care to check out what Prof.
> Pennington said for themselves, the website is
> http://faculty.cua.edu/Pennington/Law111/CatholicHistory.htm

I'll see your link and raise you one:
http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=3361&CFID=53847211&CFTOKEN=90946205

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The assertion that Catholic Church teaching on abortion throughout history is confused and inconsistent is historically indefensible. The historical record shows beyond any doubt that the Church's teaching, namely that abortion is a grave moral evil, has been clear, emphatic, and unwavering. Therefore, an historically accurate treatment of the Church's teaching on abortion shows that the pro-abortionist's claims against the Church are without foundation. At the same time, such a treatment shows the Church to be not only a reliable and consistent teaching authority on the subject of abortion, but also a compassionate and balanced one, fully sensitive to the rights of everyone involved—including the pregnant woman—and deeply aware of abortion's psychological and social implications. It is with these considerations in mind that the following presentation has been prepared.

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St. Basil the Great, however (374-5), found the distinction between formed and unformed too subtle to be morally relevant:

A woman who deliberately destroys a fetus is answerable for murder. And any fine distinction as to its being completely formed or unformed is not admissible among us.13

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Two early Church councils — of Elvira in Granada, Spain (c. 305) and of Ancyra in Galatia, Asia Minor (314)—condemned abortion. These councils established a firm historical precedent on the matter of abortion which later councils—the Council of Chalcedon (451) and Consillium Quinisextum (692)—ratified and strengthened. During the early period of Christianity many important writers clearly and emphatically condemned abortion as a grave evil. Among these writers are Hippolytus (235), Cyprian (258), St. Ambrose, Bishop of Milan (375), St. Jerome (d. 420), St. Augustine (d. 430), Caesarius, Bishop of Arles (d. 543), and St. Martin of Braga (580).

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Mother Mary ()
Date: October 12, 2010 10:11PM

If someone could locate the woman that Gerry was "involved" with at Seminary and get her story out it would be all over for the Con-man.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: whiterussian ()
Date: October 12, 2010 11:02PM

Do social issues matter at this point??? - - they will ALWAY be a factor, and let the courts work it out. Right now, it is about the economy, jobs, and the fact we are in one and and a half conflicts (Afghanistan and rump Iraq} with another to come (Yemen and/or Somalia). Plus the whole Iranian and North Korean business. China in another twenty years or so. God help the republic.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: flim flam ()
Date: October 13, 2010 10:37AM

Radiophile Wrote:
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> Exactly. That is why the Sacrament of Priesthood
> is only offered to men. Funny how men made the
> rules and they decided Preists need a penis to do
> their job.

+1

That is why it is extremely dangerous to put into Congress a man who would make these statements (also, wanted to be a priest?!? eww, I think we all know what that means):

"Reverend Johnson and all of you had a calling to the work of God. So did I. I left home at 15 to join the seminary because I heard a biblical call to social justice. I wanted to turn my faith in God into action. I wanted to “Speak out, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and needy.†(Proverbs 31:9) Even in my youth, I felt a passion for that mission.

As a seminarian, I spoke out against poverty. Hunger, poverty, and civil rights were, to me, moral issues that men and women of God had a responsibility to address. To remain silent was to abandon our calling.

After some time, and much prayer, I came to the conclusion that my calling would be fulfilled outside the Church. I left the seminary, but I didn’t leave its values and spirit behind as I started a career in the non-profit world, working on anti-hunger and poverty initiatives.

In my secular position, I carry with me the same spiritual and scriptural values that initially led me to a life of faith.

I believe in the separation of church and state. But I don’t believe in the separation of public life from our values, especially our religious values….

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Resident ()
Date: October 13, 2010 06:16PM

The Liberal Left Wrote:
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> There are several reasons to vote for the democrat
> Gerry Connolly -
>
> 1. Keep Pelosi as Speaker of the House
>
> 2. Show your support for Pelosi and Obama
>
> 3. Connolly always votes to spend money now and
> let your kids pay for it
>
> 4. Connolly votes in favor of the health care tax

Sometimes the truth hurts. I guess that's why most politicians will lie. I can see the damage he's done to Fairfax County every day so I will certainly vote for anyone that runs against him. Besides the above 4 reasons, I also would never vote for someone who wears a pinky ring. Doesn't he vote in favor of gay rights? Makes you wonder???

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Josey Wales ()
Date: October 13, 2010 06:48PM

Another day still another Connolly mailing. This time he says Fimian is gambling with our social security.

What I want to know is what kind of ideas you Gerry Connolly have. I am immediately turned off by attack ads on either side. What I want to hear are fresh ideas on how to solve this countrys problems and there are many. Tell me how you will fix social security. The current system will be bankrupt in fifteen years so staying the course wont work.

Dont tell me what Fimian is going to do tell me what you are going to do.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: T2T ()
Date: October 13, 2010 06:54PM

Good point. Keith is not for privatizing social security. It's a shame, or shoul I say sham how Connolly can twist up things like a pretzel.

Josey Wales Wrote:
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> Another day still another Connolly mailing. This
> time he says Fimian is gambling with our social
> security.
>
> What I want to know is what kind of ideas you
> Gerry Connolly have. I am immediately turned off
> by attack ads on either side. What I want to hear
> are fresh ideas on how to solve this countrys
> problems and there are many. Tell me how you will
> fix social security. The current system will be
> bankrupt in fifteen years so staying the course
> wont work.
>
> Dont tell me what Fimian is going to do tell me
> what you are going to do.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Please Don't Piss on Me Gerry C ()
Date: October 13, 2010 10:30PM

What do you expect? If you want someone who does nothing but suck on the tits of Nancy Pelosi, courts friends of terrorists, eats tacos and looks the other way, and ALSO lies constantly, then he's the little shit you need to vote for.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Troll@AOL ()
Date: October 13, 2010 10:41PM

#1. REASON:

He is a RAGING SHIT-SLAMMING HOMOSEXUAL.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: The Honorable Gerry Connolly ()
Date: October 13, 2010 11:05PM

Dear Voting Citizens of Fairfax Underground,

I have NEVER lied in my entire political life. I am a fiscal conservative (for the remainder of this month). I have never knowingly helped terrorists with their direct planning of mischief. I have not seen a potential vote I didn't like (i.e. illegal aliens, money in the bank down the road). I quote my opponents in an abbreviated manner to save the citizens time. I am an independent (for the remainder of this month). I support the license for others to snuff out playdo cells in the womb.

Sincerely and with fecal heart,

Gerry C.

P.S.
Although it is true that I have been Madam Pelosi's puppy dog friend these last few years and have voted with her nearly 100% of the time, I realize that I do have a brain of my own and pledge for this next entire month to be your independent representative.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Resident ()
Date: October 13, 2010 11:09PM

Josey Wales Wrote:
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>
> What I want to know is what kind of ideas you
> Gerry Connolly have. What I want to hear
> are fresh ideas on how to solve this countrys
> problems and there are many. Tell me how you will
> fix social security.
>

You'll probably never know because he doesn't have dialog with his constituents. He has town hall meetings at gated communities with a hand selected audience. Gerry is truly scary.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Truly Disturbed ()
Date: October 15, 2010 12:38AM

I am remarkably disturbed by the low level that most of you reach in your dislike for any given candidate. Opinions expressed in this way are not helpful to anyone that is touting respect for the "issues".
Yes, GC has voted with the leader of the House of Representatives for the majority party nearly 100% of the time. Take a close look at the voting records of most of the group on the minority side and you will find a similar record. Is anyone actually suggesting that Fimian will not simply follow the leader as a newbie in Congress?
This country was actually founded on the idea of religious freedom. The word God is only used once in the Declaration of Independence, and in context - "the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them". The constitution, by which you all stand so strongly beside when discussing guns, has declared separation of church and state. So let us leave aside the grandstanding on Catholicism and focus on the more direct issues. People always have and always will disagree about religion.
Since abortion has been made such a clearly religious issue, I believe it will continue to follow the same path - we will always disagree about it and people will continue to be killed over it, just like religion always has been. Abortion has been practiced for a very long time and Christian dislike of the practice has always been fairly strongly against; although even very early on Didache wasn't so clear on early stage abortion. Even Pope Gregory XIV passed flexiblie thoughts on early stage abortions. So the idea that right and wrong have never changed is clearly unsupported.
I fully agree that illegals of all color should go through the proper channels for arriving into this country and obtaining citizenship. I also strongly feel they should make a clear effort to learn the language of the country they are inhabiting, just as I try to learn the language of the countries I even just visit. The issue that I think everyone is overlooking is that most Americans don't actually want the jobs these people are fulfilling, and certainly not for the wages they are receiving to do them. A similar argument exists with the exporting of manufacturing to China. You want to talk about helping grow the economy? As soon as you bring all manufacturing back to America and push out all of the illegal immigrants, we will have a sudden influx of jobs for Americans. Yay! But wait, just like with the UAW, we don't want to do those jobs for the 3.25 an hour the prior employees were making, or even for minimum wage. Fine, everyone works for $10 an hour, respectable but still not great. Unfortunately, now every company goes out of business because their labor costs have just tripled or quadrupled. Now that difference could probably be corrected by cutting the salaries of the upper-level management, but recent history has shown us that will never happen, so instead the presidents all retire and everyone is out of work. Tricky.
Ultimately, this past congress has proven that nothing happens with any speed and that no matter who has the majority, the other side will fight tooth and nail to keep anything from happening. What no one realizes is what Darwin has shown us, regardless of whether you believe in the beginning of time part of evolution. Darwin has shown that if you do not adapt, whether by mutation over millions of years or by simply changing your ways, you are doomed to be passed over into extinction. The only thing constant is change. This country has been spinning its wheels for a long time and we're getting left behind in the world (economy, education,etc...) Everyone just needs to work together and help the WHOLE move forward. Not everyone is going to get everything they want, no one ever does. To expect such is infantile. Good luck if we can't accept change and start moving forward.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Please Don't Piss on Me Gerry C ()
Date: October 15, 2010 02:27PM

"The constitution, by which you all stand so strongly beside when discussing guns, has declared separation of church and state. So let us leave aside the grandstanding on Catholicism and focus on the more direct issues."


Bullshit. The Constitution does not declare the separation of church and state. This is interpretive and not absolute. Liberals (which I presume you are) always seem to pull out the church and state argument...sourced from an opinion Jefferson made. And, indeed, that argument Jefferson made has been erroneously twisted by modern politicians as well. As I understand, he thought that each state at the time could have its on religion but that the federal government could not dictate any one religion for all of the states. Now, we get the fear of religion from "progressives" and because it is charged that religion "always" separates people or causes wars, etc., we just eliminate it from the politics altogether. But when we eliminate religion altogether, we end up inevitably taking out God altogether as well because some "religions" don't believe in a single God or even in a God at all. That's when we start having moral anarchy. Anything goes. No absolutes of right and wrong. No commandments that guide us all to live in peace the best way we can. The liberals have taken Jefferson's statements and twisted to give cover for their own agenda, albeit well-meaning, but flawed.

Not sure where you get the "so strong....on guns" for me. It's not so strong for me. I think, as a Republican, we are given the right to bear arm but that doesn't mean doing so without limits which our laws tend to cover to a fluctuating degree.

There's no "grandstanding on Catholicism". My faith was challenged when people start tarnishing the candidate for being a practicing Catholic or throwing out pedophile lies about all priests, etc. It's mere defense of Catholicism.

I strongly disagree on your notions about Catholicism and abortion. Catholics who know their religion would understand that the Magisterium has always taught against abortion and always has to the degree that man understood what was happening in the womb. At the time of Pope Gregory, they may very well have questioned the issue abortion early in the pregnancy if they were ignorant of what goes on in the womb and did not understand when/how life was formed. We know now and, I understand, the truth is hard to acknowledge. Abortion has always been wrong to the degree man understood when a life was a life. I fear you are taking your talking points from Madam Pelosi and, like many Catholics, she just doesn't get it. Why? It doesn't fit with the entire pro-choice mantle she has built her entire career on.

I cannot for the life of me understand why so many hate Connolly and don't like his stand on issues, yet vote for him. Fimian, on the other hand, who gives us AT THE VERY LEAST a fresh choice, the likelihood of restored integrity to Congress, and hope for the future. Does Connolly inspire hope, fill you with pride for Congress, or offer anything new? Please vote Fimian.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 15, 2010 03:19PM

Truly Disturbed Wrote:
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> This country was actually founded on the idea of
> religious freedom. The word God is only used once
> in the Declaration of Independence, and in context
> - "the separate and equal station to which the
> Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them".
> The constitution, by which you all stand so
> strongly beside when discussing guns, has declared
> separation of church and state. So let us leave
> aside the grandstanding on Catholicism and focus
> on the more direct issues. People always have and
> always will disagree about religion.

They will disagree about religion, as about politics and sports. But religious views are not somehow unwelcome because they are religiously informed. And you're mistaken about mentions of God in the Delaration of Independence. It's in the preamble, just as "Creator", not "God". But this, and the passage you mention, are important insights into the minds of the framers; they believed that rights, including the right to freely practice religion, is given by God, not by the state nor by the people. It is simply the duty of government to recognize and not violate those rights. This is reflected likewise in the Bill of Rights.

> Since abortion has been made such a clearly
> religious issue, I believe it will continue to
> follow the same path - we will always disagree
> about it and people will continue to be killed
> over it, just like religion always has been.
> Abortion has been practiced for a very long time
> and Christian dislike of the practice has always
> been fairly strongly against; although even very
> early on Didache wasn't so clear on early stage
> abortion. Even Pope Gregory XIV passed flexiblie
> thoughts on early stage abortions. So the idea
> that right and wrong have never changed is clearly
> unsupported.

No, it is not unsupported. Merely because Christians have disagreed with each others about the particulars is not grounds to say that right and wrong have changed; only that Christians and others have imperfectly understood morality in its fullness. This is only to be expected; no human understands morality perfectly. Nevertheless, the Catholic Chruch has consistently throughout history taught that abortion is always intrinsically wrong, and violates the NATURAL LAW (see your above statement about "Laws of Nature and Nature's God"? Clear reference to natural law). Natural law is the kind that can and should be enforced in civil law. No, no Catholic should want to enforce Catholicism as a state religion nor require that everyone be let off work on Sundays or ban other religions or require all to attend Mass or support the Church with their tax dollars. Those are laws of God. But NATURAL laws should be reflected in civil law, rightly so.

> Ultimately, this past congress has proven that
> nothing happens with any speed and that no matter
> who has the majority, the other side will fight
> tooth and nail to keep anything from happening.

On that, we can certainly agree. Politicians these days, even more than they had been, are far more concerned about their power and maintaining their power and that of their party than the good of the country. Vote 'em all out.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 15, 2010 03:24PM

Truly Disappointed wrote;

>. The word God is only used once in the Declaration of Independence, and in
> context - "the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of
> Nature's God entitle them". The constitution, by which you all stand so strongly
> beside when discussing guns, has declared separation of church and state.

It is particularly amusing that you point out that "God" is not mentioned in the Constitution, and only in the Declaration, but then move on to reference a concept ALSO that never appears by name in the Constitution; "separation of Church and State".

One need not use the words in order to reference the concept. And I disagree with my conservative colleague "Please Don't Piss on Me Gerry C"; I believe in the separation of Church and State, inasmuch as it means no religious law may be made civil law, or that no civil law can intrude on Church law.

As an aside, I am pro-life for entirely secular reasons. Abortion kills a human being because it kills cells which are:
a) Alive
b) Human
c) Different from the mother's cells, because they have different DNA. Ergo, it is the baby's body being destroyed, not the mother's.

DNA is our best indicator of what distinguishes Person A from Person B is DNA. Why do we continue to believe this falsehood that an embryo with different DNA is somehow part of the the same person?

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: overklok ()
Date: October 15, 2010 05:21PM

I love how gun nuts refer to the constitution to allow for individual gun ownership. When is says the there needs to be a "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. "

Do you see the word "individual" anywhere????

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 15, 2010 08:59PM

overklok Wrote:
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> I love how gun nuts refer to the constitution to
> allow for individual gun ownership. When is says
> the there needs to be a "A well regulated Militia,
> being necessary to the security of a free State,
> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
> shall not be infringed. "
>
> Do you see the word "individual" anywhere????

I think you might wish to reread the my message about how it's not important for a specific word to be used for the concept to be addressed and the right recognized.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: justsayin ()
Date: October 15, 2010 09:18PM

overklok Wrote:
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> I love how gun nuts refer to the constitution to
> allow for individual gun ownership. When is says
> the there needs to be a "A well regulated Militia,
> being necessary to the security of a free State,
> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
> shall not be infringed. "
>
> Do you see the word "individual" anywhere????


The Supreme Court already decided there is an individual right. But for the sake of discussion, point out for me any other area in the Constitution using the term The People that didn't mean ordinary citizens and instead meant "militias" or "military", and point out for me any of the other components of the Bill of Rights that doesn't refer to individual rights.

Do you really believe the Fourth Amendment's clause "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated," is not referring to individuals?

And many seem to forget the Constitution isn't the only source of the intent of the founding fathers on individual firearm ownership and carrying. Most of them were very prolific writers and there is nothing to indicate an opposition to individuals being armed. Thomas Jefferson wrote "Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks." Does that sound like someone opposed to individual ownership as a right? The intent was clear, SCOTUS has spoken, sorry you didn't like the result.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: NOTBRAINDEAD ()
Date: October 17, 2010 04:23PM

Reasons to support Gerry Connolly

NONE!, CHICKLET TOOTHED RAT FACED ASS SPELUNKER

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: HOLYROLLERSKATE ()
Date: October 17, 2010 04:34PM

Kardinal Wrote:
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> Truly Disappointed wrote;
>
> >. The word God is only used once in the
> Declaration of Independence, and in
> > context - "the separate and equal station to
> which the Laws of Nature and of
> > Nature's God entitle them". The constitution, by
> which you all stand so strongly
> > beside when discussing guns, has declared
> separation of church and state.
>
> It is particularly amusing that you point out that
> "God" is not mentioned in the Constitution, and
> only in the Declaration, but then move on to
> reference a concept ALSO that never appears by
> name in the Constitution; "separation of Church
> and State".
>
> One need not use the words in order to reference
> the concept. And I disagree with my conservative
> colleague "Please Don't Piss on Me Gerry C"; I
> believe in the separation of Church and State,
> inasmuch as it means no religious law may be made
> civil law, or that no civil law can intrude on
> Church law.
>
> As an aside, I am pro-life for entirely secular
> reasons. Abortion kills a human being because it
> kills cells which are:
> a) Alive
> b) Human
> c) Different from the mother's cells, because they
> have different DNA. Ergo, it is the baby's body
> being destroyed, not the mother's.
>
> DNA is our best indicator of what distinguishes
> Person A from Person B is DNA. Why do we continue
> to believe this falsehood that an embryo with
> different DNA is somehow part of the the same
> person?


Good for you then, I guess you've adopted all the unwanted crack babies then? Fucking two-faced hypocrite, keep paying your tithing to the church, they need the money to pay for all the pedophiles priest lawsuits. I bet you're daughter who couldn't conceive due to a botched abortion behind your holy roller ass when she was 16, went all the way to Russia and paid $50K to adopt some Fetal Alcohol Syndrome half wit named Sergei instead. You're the type of self-righteous dick with all those obnoxious right to life bumper stickers all over the back of your 1997 beige grand marquis. PS- your husband was/is a closet homo. Now go smother yourself with your Depends diaper.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Please Don't Piss on My Future Gerry C ()
Date: October 17, 2010 10:24PM

I guess the Kardinal was getting too close to the truth for you. You are one angry lady.


>
> Good for you then, I guess you've adopted all the
> unwanted crack babies then? Fucking two-faced
> hypocrite, keep paying your tithing to the church,
> they need the money to pay for all the pedophiles
> priest lawsuits. I bet you're daughter who
> couldn't conceive due to a botched abortion behind
> your holy roller ass when she was 16, went all the
> way to Russia and paid $50K to adopt some Fetal
> Alcohol Syndrome half wit named Sergei instead.
> You're the type of self-righteous dick with all
> those obnoxious right to life bumper stickers all
> over the back of your 1997 beige grand marquis.
> PS- your husband was/is a closet homo. Now go
> smother yourself with your Depends diaper.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: October 18, 2010 02:50AM

HOLYROLLERSKATE Wrote:
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> Good for you then, I guess you've adopted all the
> unwanted crack babies then? Fucking two-faced
> hypocrite, keep paying your tithing to the church,
> they need the money to pay for all the pedophiles
> priest lawsuits. I bet you're daughter who
> couldn't conceive due to a botched abortion behind
> your holy roller ass when she was 16, went all the
> way to Russia and paid $50K to adopt some Fetal
> Alcohol Syndrome half wit named Sergei instead.
> You're the type of self-righteous dick with all
> those obnoxious right to life bumper stickers all
> over the back of your 1997 beige grand marquis.
> PS- your husband was/is a closet homo. Now go
> smother yourself with your Depends diaper.

Sure does seem like I cut a little close to home, doesn't it.

But let me answer your question. Certainly we have to do much to support those who have difficult pregnancies and are in difficult circumstances. That's why you see pro-lifers giving man-years of their time and millions to crisis pregnancy centers. But more importantly, the alternative is not to kill an innocent child. You hide behind "unwanted crack babies" as if it's somehow better to kill children than let them live as "crack babies"?

As for your other accusations, they really don't bear any response, they're just meaningless invective that shows you either don't have a meaningful response that would lead to a useful discussion, or you're just immature. Suffice to say they're all just plain inaccurate.

It's not legal to kill crack babies or other "unwanted" children outside the womb. Why is it legal to kill them inside the womb?

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Re: Gerry Connolly - Fiscal Extremist
Posted by: Joe Belleau ()
Date: October 21, 2010 03:34PM

I think we can all agree the Gerry Connolly, like Barack Obama, is a fiscal extremist with absolutely no qualms about condemning American children to the hock by borrowing, and wasting, monies from hostile foreign governments (like the Chinese Government) to escalate the War in Afghanistan.

Mr. Connolly is an intellectual and moral fraud who does not deserve work at the dump on West Ox road, much less anywhere else near our government.

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Re: Gerry Connolly - Fiscal Extremist
Posted by: T2T ()
Date: October 21, 2010 03:59PM

Joe Belleau Wrote:
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> I think we can all agree the Gerry Connolly, like
> Barack Obama, is a fiscal extremist with
> absolutely no qualms about condemning American
> children to the hock by borrowing, and wasting,
> monies from hostile foreign governments (like the
> Chinese Government) to escalate the War in
> Afghanistan.
>
> Mr. Connolly is an intellectual and moral fraud
> who does not deserve work at the dump on West Ox
> road, much less anywhere else near our government.
>

Ah, but sadly, I get responses to my threads about Gerry Connolly that seem to put the guy up on a pedistal. What else does he need to do in the eyes of his supporters to allow them to see the real Gerry? Line up for the free Kool-Aid. Sure, I'll take grape ... and, along the way they walk over the cliff like lemings.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 21, 2010 08:59PM

I have a good reason to support Gerry Connelly - because his campaign is smart enough to plaster Stone Road and Braddock Road with his campaign signs. Nowhere near his district of course but he must know we don't have enough political signs up - we really need one's for a candidate who puts signs outside of his own precincts.

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Re: Gerry Connolly - Fiscal Extremist
Posted by: Joe Belleau ()
Date: October 25, 2010 03:04AM

From "The Road to Serfdom" - a few choice selections:

On Mr. Connolly, Mr. Obama and the other neo-socialists...

It is rarely remembered now that neo-socialism in its beginnings was frankly authoritarian.

The French writers who laid the foundations of modern socialism had no doubt that their ideas could be put into practice only by a strong dictatorial government.


On the "Stimulus"...

Few planners, like Gerry Connolly, are content to say that central planning is desirable - they consistently affirm that circumstances beyond our control demand it. The demand is not real and, in fact, the complexity of modern civilization makes efficient central planning impossible.



On Obamacare...

The statesman, like Gerry Connolly, who should attempt to direct private people in what manner they ought to employ their capitals, would not only load himself with a most unnecessary attention, but assume an authority which could safely be trusted to no council and senate what- ever, and which would nowhere be so dangerous as in the hands of a man who had folly and presumption enough to fancy himself fit to exercise it.

--
"When authority presents itself in the guise of organization, it develops charms fascinating enough to convert free people into totalitarian states."

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Re: Gerry Connolly - Fiscal Extremist
Posted by: KK ()
Date: October 25, 2010 09:11AM

Vote for Very Colonic, he will clean you out!

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: notogc ()
Date: October 25, 2010 01:18PM

This dem wont vote for him

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: extremist fimian ()
Date: October 25, 2010 02:54PM

does anyone know keith fimian's nfl statistics during his brief stay with the cleveland browns? i saw that he was cut in 1978, but i see no record of him even playing at all.

if true, is it fair for him to run on a platform that he was a sucessful nfl player when he rode the bench 100% of the time?

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: yeah, and ()
Date: October 25, 2010 02:57PM

i understand his brother is a priest in the diocese of arlington. does that mean that both he and keith support kid touching in the church or is it just in the confines of their respective homes?

i mean, the catholic church? what type of person would participate in a leadership position in this outdated, extreme, cultlike fairytale?

clearly, keith fimian is too extreme for nova's senisible and moderate population.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: The Pope ()
Date: October 25, 2010 03:10PM

Gerry Connolly still publicly declares his religion as Roman Catholic. He does not attend mass, though he does receive the envelopes in the mail each month, along with a copy of the Arlington Catholic Herald.

The reasons for Gerry's dismissal from the seminary are sealed. They will not be revealed.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: benedict ()
Date: October 25, 2010 03:18PM

was it because he challenged the religion? or was it because he didn't pay his 10% tithing to jesus cover charge at club gateway to heaven? hell, i wouldn't either, because the church is so full of lies and contradictions

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: good point ()
Date: October 25, 2010 03:20PM

extremist fimian Wrote:
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> does anyone know keith fimian's nfl statistics
> during his brief stay with the cleveland browns?
> i saw that he was cut in 1978, but i see no record
> of him even playing at all.
>
> if true, is it fair for him to run on a platform
> that he was a sucessful nfl player when he rode
> the bench 100% of the time?

he keeps mentioning it at stump speeches, but i've yet to see his hall of fame credentials. did he play the "LO" position? left out.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: udumbfuck ()
Date: October 25, 2010 03:29PM

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Theocratic? Are you fucking retarded?

Just because of the desire that our country follow two important principles: Pro-life and Pro Marriage (not the gay dream)? Two big issues most practicing
Christians and Jews would support.

Our country was founded on the idea that God created us and that there is a naturally morality that we should all follow regardless of the religion we choose that accepts God as our creator. When we turn our back on God altogether....when we ignore them, we are in big trouble because there is no end to the evil that can and will take place.

__________________________________________________________________________________

The fact that you do not understand how thoroughly theocratic your point is at it's core (that everyone in this country, should, by law adhere to YOUR opinions because of what your God has told you) is almost funny.

Except that there's a lot of you in this country.

On most core issues that would actually allow any real substantive change in the US, Dems and Repubs are not any different. They both vote the will of the biggest industrial donors and both support the idea of exerting our national will over other countries either by force or by finance.

They both allow Congress to be steered by profit & greed and they all serve for their own self-interest. They both say one thing and do another. They both get up in front of the TV and prance around like they're actually doing anything in all of their congressional hearings, knowing at the end of the day all of their faux rage is nothing but acting.

Dems are willing to screw the little guy by putting him in a position to be beholden to them and their programs, Republicans are willing to screw the little guy because they are beholden to corporate america.

All in all, they aren't much different but I have no interest in electing someone because they believe they have a right to impose their religious beliefs on me, especially considering how bastardized and selective any religious belief is in this country.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: pondering ()
Date: October 25, 2010 03:47PM

well, i for one agree with fimian that corporations have the best interests for our country. yeah yeah, i know they are greedy sometimes with their bottom lines and excessive executive compensation and such, but deep down in, i know corporations care because they have patriotic feelings. besides, they would never stoop as low to come to washington to ask for a bailout, would they?

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: KK ()
Date: October 25, 2010 03:58PM

OK, I'm Catholic and Democratic. So, who do I vote for? Guess I'll have to try and excericse some independent analysis and make a choice based on what I think is right. Now, there's a novel idea.

I don't care if Fimian didn't play a down for an NFL team, he came a lot closer to being an NFL player than anyone else on this board. I knew a guy who played a short stint on one of the farm teams for the Kansas City Royals. He came a lot closer to being a pro baseball player than most of us here. And, this is the first I heard about this, so if he did or didn't won't have any affect on my decision. I also met a fairly successful lawyer that had one of those 10 day contracts with the NBA, so he was an NBA player, regardless of how much he played or not. So, to sum it all up....Big Deal!

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: village idiot ()
Date: October 25, 2010 06:02PM

As I stated earlier, Connolly and his supporters can't brag about his record so they have to cloud the debate with things that have no relevance. Connolly has voted with Pelosi 97% of the time and he voted for Obamacare and the stimulus. Think he wants to talk that up? Nope, so the answer is to make his opponent look like a freak. Like if fimian won, he would be able to overturn Roe v Wade. Anybody with a brain knows that could never happen.

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: mjcc1987 ()
Date: October 25, 2010 06:20PM

Bush's last budget had a $1.416 trillion deficit. Obama's first budget reduced that to $1.29 trillion.

Fact - Democrats cut taxes. 40% of the "stimulus" was wasted on tax cuts which only create debt, which is why it was so much less effective than it could have been.

While many people conflate the "stimulus" with the bank bailouts, the bank bailouts were requested by President Bush and his Treasury Secretary, former Goldman Sachs CEO Henry Paulson. The bailouts passed and began before the 2008 election of President Obama.

The stimulus worked, but was not enough. In fact, according to the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus raised employment by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million jobs.

A business hires the right number of employees to meet demand. Having extra cash does not cause a business to hire, but a business that has a demand for what it does will find the money to hire. Businesses want customers, not tax cuts.

The health care reform reduces government deficits by $138 billion.

Social Security has run a surplus since it began, has a trust fund in the trillions, is completely sound for at least 25 more years and cannot legally borrow so cannot contribute to the deficit (compare that to the military budget!) Life expectancy is only longer because fewer babies die; people who reach 65 live about the same number of years as they used to.

Government is We, the People and the money it spends is on We, the People. Many people do not know that it is government that builds the roads, airports, ports, courts, schools and other things that are the soil in which business thrives. Many people think that all government spending is on "welfare" and "foreign aid" when that is only a small part of the government's budget.


Gerry will get re-elected

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: village idiot ()
Date: October 25, 2010 06:42PM

The stimulus worked???!!!!! I may be an idiot, but even I am not buying that one.
The health care reform reduces deficits. Not so fast, that has been proven false after the CBO said their numbers were based on the information they were given. They have since recanted after seeing what was in the that bill. Remember, Pelosi said " We have to pass the bill to know what's in it" and now we have seen what is in it.
And as far as the FACT that Democrats cut taxes, why were they so quick to go to recess without taking a vote on whether or not the Bush tax cuts should expire?

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: TJ44 ()
Date: October 26, 2010 12:34AM

Because he's a fiscal conservative. How do I know that? Because the gazillion Connolly flyers I keep finding in my mailbox tell me so! Fiscal conservative -what a joke! And now Connolly says that Fimian is a threat to Medicare (LOL!) Hey Gerry - by supporting Obamacare, you've done more to destroy Medicare than Fimian could ever do. You and your staff should start sending out resumes!

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Re: Reasons to support Gerry Connolly
Posted by: Hatemotor ()
Date: October 26, 2010 12:48AM

Politicians on both side play the same game, they use issues to confuse and enrage the public and get you to vote for them and not their rival,,,
Then they go to congress and give all the money to the "rich"

THEY DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU!!!

Here's the result of all their hard work
Attachments:
wealth-distribution-usa.png

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