Kardinal Wrote:
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> yepp Wrote:
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> > well said bill. if only the catholic church
> > realized that we aren't living in the dark ages
> > anymore, then perhaps they would be more widely
> > accepted by others than the god fearing
> sheeple.
>
> Sorry, what is right and what is wrong does not
> change. Sometimes those rights and wrongs (e.g.
> murder, abortion) are so very fundamental that we
> enshrine them in our laws.
>
> Bill Wrote:
> > For those who care to research it, historical
> > views on abortion have changed over time, both
> > within the Catholic church...
>
> No, they haven't. And yes, I've heard these
> claims before, and no, they're still inaccurate.
>
> As for Catholic politicians, they're not beholden
> to the Church to implement church law or enforce
> that everyone be Catholic. But ALL peoples are
> beholden to implement in civil law what is
> reflected in natural law. From this we see the
> prohibition not to murder, to respect the privacy
> and property of others, and the like. Just
> because one agrees with the Church on what should
> and should not be illegal does not mean one is
> beholden to it, nor that it is necessarily the
> reason for it.
>
> And why is a Catholic less welcome to bring his
> religiously-informed views to the table than an
> atheist is welcome to bring his
> religiously-informed views to the table?
Silly me to assume that something that something from Catholic University was actually accurate. For those who care to check out what Prof. Pennington said for themselves, the website is
http://faculty.cua.edu/Pennington/Law111/CatholicHistory.htm