Yeah, I know it's a quiet intersection excluding rish hours and I really don't hear about accidents at that intersection but...

Afternoon rush hour is fucking insane with a 1-2 mile backup.

I used to use that route to bypass 50 & 28. That back-up sucks but its better than the main roads, plus its scenic.

Braddock was fucked this morning on my route, so I took the long way through Clifton. A lil out of the way, but a beautiful drive. And God only knows how long I would have been stopping and going on goddamn braddock.

The Cox Farms intersection? Screw that, it's fun making dangerous decisions at an intersection of two incredibly dangerous roads!

They really need to put a left-turn arrow on Sunset Hill Road where people turn into Kaiser Permanente.

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A better idea would be close the road at the Loudoun Co./Fairfax Co. line. You can place the blame for the current situation there squarely on Toll Brothers. They were the folks who put 6000 homes in South Riding. They knew the roads were not there and they didn't have the money to build the roads themselves or the political clout to get them built with taxpayer money. But they built the homes anyway...

you can thank Toll Brothers for purposely disconnecting Brambleton from Old Ox Rd, making the commute from Chantilly to Brambleton 20 minutes longer than it should be.


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The constitution says nothing about stoplights! Stoplights are unconstitutional and must be removed! Stoplights are socialism!

Being the "proud" owner of a Toll Bros. home (not in the discussed communities), I am very pleased to hear Toll called out to blame for building where the road infrastructure would not support the numbers of "trips" caused by the heightened population. But that blame is misplaced, and is at the feet of the county planners, who allowed such residential expansion without securing proffers (in cash dollars) from Toll to be used to improve the surrounding roadways.

So whichever county your are in (Fairfax, Prince William, whatever), make your voice heard at the next general election.

So no one likes the honor system in place at Braddock and Pleasant Valley? LOL

Braddock will only get worse as time marches on. There will be a new middle school at Braddock and Ticonderoga in 2011, more houses, more people, more more more.

thats just pure bs that toll bros. ain't to blame and county planners are! hell toll bros. probably has way more folks who know about planning than the local govts. developers like toll bros. pull sh8t like that all the time

If you live in the Pleasant Valley neighborhood, you are kind of screwed. Only way to get home is either rt 50 or through this intersection and both options suck during rush hour. Most of the traffic is coming from our neighbors to the west - take a look at the traffic on Braddock coming from that direction in the morning and you will see that it is equally fucked up as in the afternoon. I have seriously thought about taking my truck behind the cub run recenter and crossing the creek to get home.

StinkyFinger Wrote:
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> Yeah, I know it's a quiet intersection excluding
> rish hours and I really don't hear about accidents
> at that intersection but...
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> Afternoon rush hour is fucking insane with a 1-2
> mile backup.

well... since you asked so nicely, sure, why not?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Thanks for opening up the back of South Riding to Braddock Road so it screws the folks in Fairfax. I guess the the developers have Fairfax, Loudon and VDOT in their pockets. I can hardly get out of my subdivision for all the Loudon County assholes that have this as their new route home.

Hometown. It's a place of simple pleasures ... an evening stroll, a game of softball, a chat with neighbors on the porch. It's a warm and welcoming place, where childhood is forever, and summer never seems to end.

Soda just came out of my nose.

Screw South Riding. I used to hunt on that land until they built all those damn houses.

"County Planners" What a cop out. Please define exactly who these county planners are and what exactly they "plan". There is no planning because every couple of years the Counties development plans completely change. And every time a developer wants to do something outside of the plan they get a rezoning. How is that planning?

Are you referring to the Loudoun/Fairfax/Prince William Co. Planning Commissions? These are unelected boards that merely provide advise to the Board of Supervisors on growth and development issues. They can only make recommendations.

Perhaps you refer to the County staff that work for the Departments of Planning? Once again their focus is on compliance with county zoning laws and provide advise.

The bottom line is that if it is LEGAL to allow re-zoning and development the County BOS are pretty much obligated to allow development regardless of the consequences. That's more or less the way it works in Virginia. And developers like Toll Brothers don't really care about the consequences. Just because by law they are allowed to build doesn't make it right.

Everyone knew there was no road network to properly support South Riding/Kirkpatrick Farms/Stone Ridge. They were built anyway. You can cry all you want about the lack of roads. Who cares why the roads weren't/aren't being built... Everyone knew they weren't there and weren't coming and the developers built anyway.