Has anyone ever backed out of their parking space and hit a vehicle pulling out from the space across from you?

This happened to me last week. We were both focusing our attention on traffic coming through the lane between the spaces and not the parking spaces behind us. The damage was minimal; my bumper dented hers and I had a little paint on mine.

Apparently, because we were on private property, the police don't get involved unless there is extensive damage or injury. Mall security didn't seem to be interested either and told to us exchange insurance information and let the insurance companies duke it out.

We both called our insurance companies. I called to give mine a heads up and she called hers, which in turn filed a claim against my insurance.

My insurance company denied the claim because we were both backing up at the same time and equally at fault. Her insurance company didn't want to take it any further. This seemed fair to me.

Has this happened to anyone? How did it turn out for you?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/27/2009 02:29PM by Junes.

Junes Wrote:
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> Has anyone ever backed out of their parking space
> and hit a vehicle pulling out from the space
> across from you?
>
> This happened to me last week. We were both
> focusing our attention on traffic coming through
> the lane between the spaces and not the parking
> spaces behind us. The damage was minimal; my
> bumper dented hers and I had a little paint on
> mine.
>
> Apparently, because we were on private property,
> the police don't get involved unless there is
> extensive damage or injury. Mall security didn't
> seem to be interested either and told to us
> exchange insurance information and let the
> insurance companies duke it out.
>
> We both called our insurance companies. I called
> to give mine a heads up and she called hers, which
> in turn filed a claim against my insurance.
>
> My insurance company denied the claim because we
> were both backing up at the same time and equally
> at fault. Her insurance company didn't want to
> take it any further. This seemed fair to me.
>
> Has this happened to anyone? How did it turn out
> for you?

I murdered the driver of the other car, and dissolved the body in a bathtub full of hydrochloric acid. You may want to give that a try.

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I just use my neuralyzer, set back about a day

I love it when Mr Mephisto distorts the truth to suit his needs. He is trying to give the hydrochloric acid industry a boost... because his grandfather recently passed him a keepsake in the form of one million shares in United Hydrochloric, Inc., an Ohio superpower in the acid industry.

No, Mr Mephisto used the less-profitable muriatic acid, which was cheaper and much more available at his local hardware store. He knows that if he tells you that using muriatic for bodies is awesome, you and everyone else might use it all the time, and his profits will dissolve.

Don't buy into the lies and hype... muriatic acid is the way to go.

That might raise a few red flags, not that it didn't cross my mind.

Today my insurance rep called to say that she planned to take me to court for the damages to her vehicle - the damages were less than her deductible.

Junes Wrote:
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> Has anyone ever backed out of their parking space
> and hit a vehicle pulling out from the space
> across from you?
>
> This happened to me last week. We were both
> focusing our attention on traffic coming through
> the lane between the spaces and not the parking
> spaces behind us. The damage was minimal; my
> bumper dented hers and I had a little paint on
> mine.
>
> Apparently, because we were on private property,
> the police don't get involved unless there is
> extensive damage or injury. Mall security didn't
> seem to be interested either and told to us
> exchange insurance information and let the
> insurance companies duke it out.
>
> We both called our insurance companies. I called
> to give mine a heads up and she called hers, which
> in turn filed a claim against my insurance.
>
> My insurance company denied the claim because we
> were both backing up at the same time and equally
> at fault. Her insurance company didn't want to
> take it any further. This seemed fair to me.
>
> Has this happened to anyone? How did it turn out
> for you?


I've had this happen twice and I (and the other driver) never bothered filing claims because of this kind of headache. In most cases you would end up paying out of pocket anyway because of the deductible.

Junes Wrote:
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>
> Today my insurance rep called to say that she
> planned to take me to court for the damages to her
> vehicle - the damages were less than her
> deductible.


In the future, don't run into a bitch.

RESton Peace Wrote:
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>
> Don't buy into the lies and hype... muriatic acid
> is the way to go.


And here I always thought diesel fuel was the cheaper alternative.

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I love it when Mr Mephisto distorts the truth to
> suit his needs. He is trying to give the
> hydrochloric acid industry a boost... because his
> grandfather recently passed him a keepsake in the
> form of one million shares in United Hydrochloric,
> Inc., an Ohio superpower in the acid industry.
>
> No, Mr Mephisto used the less-profitable muriatic
> acid, which was cheaper and much more available at
> his local hardware store. He knows that if he
> tells you that using muriatic for bodies is
> awesome, you and everyone else might use it all
> the time, and his profits will dissolve.
>
> Don't buy into the lies and hype... muriatic acid
> is the way to go.

You shut your goddamned whore mouth about my ecret-say lans-pay.

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Junes Wrote:
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> Today my insurance rep called to say that she
> planned to take me to court for the damages to her
> vehicle - the damages were less than her
> deductible.

This really sucks and I can't believe the other driver is being such a bitch! A parking lot accident like this one happened to my daughter just last Summer. Both insurance companies declared it no-fault because both cars were in motion and neither driver stopped. Everyone was responsible for their own damage (which was minimal for both cars ... less than the lost of deductible for both). I think I'd have to let her take me to court! The hassle factor is extremely high, true, but I think the judge will say that since the insurance companies ruled the way they did that she has to abide by that and she'll get nothing. In small claims court she can only sue for her actual damages so she can't tack on lost wages, etc. Personally I don't see how it can be worth it (but then, I'm not a bitch).

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> I murdered the driver of the other car, and
> dissolved the body in a bathtub full of
> hydrochloric acid. You may want to give that a
> try.

and here i thought i was the only one.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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> Junes Wrote:
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>
> >
> > Today my insurance rep called to say that she
> > planned to take me to court for the damages to
> her
> > vehicle - the damages were less than her
> > deductible.
>
>
> In the future, don't run into a bitch.

Actually she was quite pleasant - considering the circumstances. She's doing what she feels is best for her. I can't blame her for that. But I still contend, we were both at fault and each of us was responsible for the damage to our vehicles.

My insurance company doesn't think she will follow through but if she does - and I'm served, I'm to pass along the papers to my insurance rep=, who will represent me in court.

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I'm not sure that those "criss-cross" mirrors would have been any help - you can only look in so many directions at once. But, does anyone know if some type of sensor can be installed, or are factory installed the only ones that work?

Junes Wrote:
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> Has anyone ever backed out of their parking space
> and hit a vehicle pulling out from the space
> across from you?

no, i actually look where im driving, not just floor it and hope for the best.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

If I floored it, I would have had more damage to my bumper than a little of her paint (which has since washed off).

it was funny that you said that because the security guy looked at our cars and said "oh man another bumper kisser"



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Junes Wrote:
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> My insurance company doesn't think she will follow
> through but if she does - and I'm served, I'm to
> pass along the papers to my insurance rep=, who
> will represent me in court.
>

I had an accident about 14 years ago where the other driver tried taking me to small claims court (he was uninsured). State Farm was my insurer. They got the case moved out of small claims, which meant the plaintiff would have had to hire an attorney. The guy dropped the case when he realized he would have to pay for an attorney.

Hopefully your insurance company will do the same.

That's cold! But that's what we pay our premiums for.

Added: I'm not sure they would be able to do that, I think Fairfax County Small Claims Court takes cases up to $5,000. If the damages are more than $1,000, she's being taken for a ride.



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Junes Wrote:
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> ...and said "oh man another bumper kisser"
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OK, where do I buy this, or do I have to use my stimulus money and contract out? :-D

another to add to this I guess

BimbosInLots Wrote:
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> another to add to this I guess


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Hmm a coworker of mine actually backed into my car in the parking lot (I wasn't in it at the time) and came and told me. I could barely see a mark so I never did anything. Once the insurance company give you an "at fault" accident (even if there was never a police report filed) you'll see your premiums rise nicely.

Maybe I'm just too nice of a guy, is there a statue of limitations on this? It was only a few months ago.

There may be a statue for that, but I am not sure where it is located. A lot of times they puit statues in courtyards and parks, you may want to check some of those.

Christ, it's amateur hour in here. Muriatic acid IS HCl. And neither of them will dissolve a body. You'll still end up with a lot of hair and fat in the bathtub. No, you need HF to get rid of that.

HebrewHammer Wrote:
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> No, you need HF to get rid of that.

High Fructose? I don't think corn syrup will work as well as acid.

I don't know anything about dissolving a body in acid, to be honest. I just eat whoever I kill, and make furniture out of their bones.

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It's just dumbfounding that some people have driver's licenses.

Hydroflouric acid = HF.
It's on page 39 of the serial killer handbook. You DID read the handbook didn't you? Probably not. You probably don't even masturbate over the posed corpse before you ritualistically carve your name into his leg before crank-calling a midget. The standards have really dropped for someone to be called a serial killer these days.

This happened to me about a year ago. I was halfway out of my parking space when the guy opposite me started backing out. I layed on my horn but he kept coming. He was in some huge pick up like an Avalanche or soemthing. He admitted fault to my insurance company and they covered the damage. My car was crunched quite a bit and of course his didn't have a scratch. I am super careful now to check if someone is even in the car opposite of mine before backing up. I really don't think the dude could see my little car because his was so large.

HunSwe Wrote:
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> I really don't think the dude could see my little car
> because his was so large.

Snicker.

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HunSwe Wrote:
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> I am super
> careful now to check if someone is even in the car
> opposite of mine before backing up. I really
> don't think the dude could see my little car
> because his was so large.


Now if people on the roads would stop switching lanes into other vehicles' blind spots the next lane over we'd have a lot fewer collisions in the world.

Junes wrote: >My insurance company doesn't think she will follow through but if she does - and I'm served, I'm to pass along the papers to my insurance rep=, who will represent me in court<

You have to represent yourself in small claims court.

WashingTone Locian wrote: >They got the case moved out of small claims, which meant the plaintiff would have had to hire an attorney.<

That a possible strategy in this case. If she files, you have the right to remove the case to the general district court. That may be enough to make her drop the case.

http://lawdigest.uslegal.com/small-claims/general/5692/

I'm just passing along what I was told by the Insurance Company. It may be they intend to move it from Small Claims into General District Court. I really have no idea how they plan to handle it.

When I receive the paperwork, I'll deal with it then .... if she even decides to follow thru.

Absolutely. Let the insurance company handle it. They have a duty to defend you.

Just thinking out loud.

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Dear Junes...I cant believe you come to FFXU to get serious advice...on any subject.

Dear Vinke....................... I cant believe you still come here............................ at all.

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Junes wrote: >My insurance company doesn't think she will follow through but if she does - and I'm served, I'm to pass along the papers to my insurance rep=, who will represent me in court<

You have to represent yourself in small claims court.

WashingTone Locian wrote: >They got the case moved out of small claims, which meant the plaintiff would have had to hire an attorney.<

That a possible strategy in this case. If she files, you have the right to remove the case to the general district court. That may be enough to make her drop the case.


In Virginia, attorneys are not allowed to represent individuals in Small Claims Court. The very first thing your insurance company will do - absolutely - is to remove the case to General District Court, which is their right to do, so that one of their attorneys can represent you. This strategy will give you an almost insurmountable advantage over the plaintiff. She will be unable to find any attorney willing to represent her for the amount of her claim and will have to try to represent herself against your insurance company's attorney. She will probably drop the matter at that point rather than pursuing a hopeless matter.

This is an example of blind justice in Virginia.

I smell a beaner....