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Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Sprawl and Crawl
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Date: July 08, 2013 06:16AM
Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
The Commonwealth could lease air space over Rosslyn and East Falls Church Metro stations to generate funds for transportation improvements. Should Fairfax follow suit?
http://fallschurch.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/should-virginia-sell-air-rights-over-the-dulles-toll-road_8395c9f8
Fairfax County Supervisor Pat Herrity (R-Springfield) is once again calling for the state and county governments to look into how selling air rights above the Dulles Toll Road could fight rising toll prices from Phase II of the Silver Line.
Gov. Bob McDonnell announced last week that Virginia officials were looking into potential developments over I-66 in Rosslyn and East Falls Church in conjunction with Arlington County and Herrity says it’s proof that air rights could be a viable revenue stream.
“Dulles toll road users are on the hook for over $2 billion to pay for metro to Dulles,” Herrity said. “Proceeds from air rights could go a long way to reduce the projected burden on toll road users and protect the health of this critical economic corridor.
In Arlington, developers would pay to lease the air space above the Metro stations – the air rights – in order to construct their buildings, and the money would go toward improving transportation.
“By leasing airspace above certain transportation facilities owned by the Commonwealth, we can better utilize our existing infrastructure to generate additional revenues to fund future transportation improvements, while at the same time attracting new jobs and economic development,” McDonnell said in his announcement. “Additionally, by co-locating these potential developments around existing Metro stations and other major transportation facilities, we can reduce congestion and create more livable communities.”
VDOT has issued a request for information (RFI) to the private sector to gather input on how best to proceed and how feasible the plan is.
Officials have located possible development sites for both Rosslyn and East Falls Church, where mixed-use developments could hold office space, residential and retail units and more.
According to the governor’s office, the Massachusetts Department of Transportation generated $40 million in FY 2011 through leases, with long-term lease income projected at $868 million.
"The partners responsible for this RFI obviously see the value in air rights with their statement today, and see their feasibility in Northern Virginia," Herrity said. "We should be exploring similar options along the Dulles toll road corridor.”
A view from the platform at McLean Station on the Silver Line. Photo by William Callahan
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The Commonwealth could lease air space over Rosslyn and East Falls Church Metro stations to generate funds for transportation improvements. Should Fairfax follow suit?
http://fallschurch.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/should-virginia-sell-air-rights-over-the-dulles-toll-road_8395c9f8
Fairfax County Supervisor Pat Herrity (R-Springfield) is once again calling for the state and county governments to look into how selling air rights above the Dulles Toll Road could fight rising toll prices from Phase II of the Silver Line.
Gov. Bob McDonnell announced last week that Virginia officials were looking into potential developments over I-66 in Rosslyn and East Falls Church in conjunction with Arlington County and Herrity says it’s proof that air rights could be a viable revenue stream.
“Dulles toll road users are on the hook for over $2 billion to pay for metro to Dulles,” Herrity said. “Proceeds from air rights could go a long way to reduce the projected burden on toll road users and protect the health of this critical economic corridor.
In Arlington, developers would pay to lease the air space above the Metro stations – the air rights – in order to construct their buildings, and the money would go toward improving transportation.
“By leasing airspace above certain transportation facilities owned by the Commonwealth, we can better utilize our existing infrastructure to generate additional revenues to fund future transportation improvements, while at the same time attracting new jobs and economic development,” McDonnell said in his announcement. “Additionally, by co-locating these potential developments around existing Metro stations and other major transportation facilities, we can reduce congestion and create more livable communities.”
VDOT has issued a request for information (RFI) to the private sector to gather input on how best to proceed and how feasible the plan is.
Officials have located possible development sites for both Rosslyn and East Falls Church, where mixed-use developments could hold office space, residential and retail units and more.
According to the governor’s office, the Massachusetts Department of Transportation generated $40 million in FY 2011 through leases, with long-term lease income projected at $868 million.
"The partners responsible for this RFI obviously see the value in air rights with their statement today, and see their feasibility in Northern Virginia," Herrity said. "We should be exploring similar options along the Dulles toll road corridor.”
A view from the platform at McLean Station on the Silver Line. Photo by William Callahan
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Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Sprawl and Crawl
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Date: July 08, 2013 10:16AM
Doesn't it open up this website to copyright infringement if you keep copying these stories unless you are the author, which you arent>?
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
lawyer
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Date: July 08, 2013 01:54PM
Sprawl and Crawl Wrote:
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> Doesn't it open up this website to copyright
> infringement if you keep copying these stories
> unless you are the author, which you arent>?
No, its a forum.
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> Doesn't it open up this website to copyright
> infringement if you keep copying these stories
> unless you are the author, which you arent>?
No, its a forum.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Alexander Smith
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Date: July 08, 2013 02:47PM
Haha selling airspace... Go right ahead, if it makes our taxes lower.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
So what?
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Date: July 08, 2013 02:55PM
lawyer Wrote:
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> Sprawl and Crawl Wrote:
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> > Doesn't it open up this website to copyright
> > infringement if you keep copying these stories
> > unless you are the author, which you arent>?
>
> No, its a forum.
How is it any different than taking someone elses photo. You are taking someones news story, or content, etc and then reposting it here making it possible to not have to pay the subscriber fees or give the ad revenue to the original creator.
It doesnt matter if it is pintrest, a competing news site, or this forum it still is copyright infringement unless you get the author and the patch's consent dumby. You are just opening this site up to being shut down or sued with your idiocy. So quit it, just post a link if you want.
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> Sprawl and Crawl Wrote:
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> > Doesn't it open up this website to copyright
> > infringement if you keep copying these stories
> > unless you are the author, which you arent>?
>
> No, its a forum.
How is it any different than taking someone elses photo. You are taking someones news story, or content, etc and then reposting it here making it possible to not have to pay the subscriber fees or give the ad revenue to the original creator.
It doesnt matter if it is pintrest, a competing news site, or this forum it still is copyright infringement unless you get the author and the patch's consent dumby. You are just opening this site up to being shut down or sued with your idiocy. So quit it, just post a link if you want.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Bob Bruhns Fan
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Date: July 08, 2013 02:56PM
I'd love to hear Bob Bruhns' opinion on this.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
net detective
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Date: July 08, 2013 02:57PM
Bob Bruhns Fan Wrote:
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> I'd love to hear Bob Bruhns' opinion on this.
Anonymous Tysons Engineer Post.
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> I'd love to hear Bob Bruhns' opinion on this.
Anonymous Tysons Engineer Post.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Bad Lawyer
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Date: July 08, 2013 02:58PM
Right on the patch website idiot
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We work hard on our materials and (surprise) require that you don’t steal them. Patch or its licensors are the exclusive owners of all copy, software, graphics, designs and all copyrights, trademarks and other intellectual property or proprietary rights contained on or used in connection with the Service. Except as set forth herein, you agree not to copy, distribute, modify or make derivative works of any materials without the prior written consent of the owner of such materials. All rights not granted under these Terms of Use are reserved by Patch. If you want to use something but think it might belong to us, please ask before taking it.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Bitching
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Date: July 08, 2013 03:02PM
Stop your bitching, Patch.
People post the story so others can quickly view the content to see if it is worth going to the original site for. No one wants to load seperate pages, especially since most other site will load slower.
Why don't you people do something useful instead of critize him for posting a news article?
People post the story so others can quickly view the content to see if it is worth going to the original site for. No one wants to load seperate pages, especially since most other site will load slower.
Why don't you people do something useful instead of critize him for posting a news article?
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Copyright infringement
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Date: July 08, 2013 03:19PM
Bitching Wrote:
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> Stop your bitching, Patch.
>
> People post the story so others can quickly view
> the content to see if it is worth going to the
> original site for. No one wants to load seperate
> pages, especially since most other site will load
> slower.
>
> Why don't you people do something useful instead
> of critize him for posting a news article?
Cause its stealing. Enjoy watching this site die because of it since the landlord is absentee
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> Stop your bitching, Patch.
>
> People post the story so others can quickly view
> the content to see if it is worth going to the
> original site for. No one wants to load seperate
> pages, especially since most other site will load
> slower.
>
> Why don't you people do something useful instead
> of critize him for posting a news article?
Cause its stealing. Enjoy watching this site die because of it since the landlord is absentee
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
asdfasfasdf
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Date: July 08, 2013 03:42PM
Copyright infringement Wrote:
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> Bitching Wrote:
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> -----
> > Stop your bitching, Patch.
> >
> > People post the story so others can quickly
> view
> > the content to see if it is worth going to the
> > original site for. No one wants to load
> seperate
> > pages, especially since most other site will
> load
> > slower.
> >
> > Why don't you people do something useful
> instead
> > of critize him for posting a news article?
>
>
> Cause its stealing. Enjoy watching this site die
> because of it since the landlord is absentee
Anonymous Tysons Engineer Post.
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> Bitching Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Stop your bitching, Patch.
> >
> > People post the story so others can quickly
> view
> > the content to see if it is worth going to the
> > original site for. No one wants to load
> seperate
> > pages, especially since most other site will
> load
> > slower.
> >
> > Why don't you people do something useful
> instead
> > of critize him for posting a news article?
>
>
> Cause its stealing. Enjoy watching this site die
> because of it since the landlord is absentee
Anonymous Tysons Engineer Post.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
The Ghost of Tysons Engineer
()
Date: July 08, 2013 04:04PM
What does copyright infringement have to do with him? I am trying to protect this site from being taken down because some dolt likes to copy paste from other websites that specifically say not to do that. You need to get over your little spat with him. Also, way to make it quite evident that you asdfasdfasdf are also known as Sprawl and Crawl and I assume you are also the person who copy pasts Bob Bruhns comments and posts onto this website. I'd suggest you stop before the admin has no option but to ban you to avoid copyright C&Ds. Friendly advice. I enjoy the articles you post by the way, but it would be better to be a link for that reason.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Alexander Smith
()
Date: July 08, 2013 04:31PM
The Ghost of Tysons Engineer Wrote:
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> What does copyright infringement have to do with
> him? I am trying to protect this site from being
> taken down because some dolt likes to copy paste
> from other websites that specifically say not to
> do that. You need to get over your little spat
> with him. Also, way to make it quite evident that
> you asdfasdfasdf are also known as Sprawl and
> Crawl and I assume you are also the person who
> copy pasts Bob Bruhns comments and posts onto this
> website. I'd suggest you stop before the admin has
> no option but to ban you to avoid copyright C&Ds.
> Friendly advice. I enjoy the articles you post by
> the way, but it would be better to be a link for
> that reason.
No one cares! It happens on every forum throughout the internet daily. Cary is a fine gentleman and will not ban anyone for posting information.
I'll say it again, no one cares and it's not stealing.
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> What does copyright infringement have to do with
> him? I am trying to protect this site from being
> taken down because some dolt likes to copy paste
> from other websites that specifically say not to
> do that. You need to get over your little spat
> with him. Also, way to make it quite evident that
> you asdfasdfasdf are also known as Sprawl and
> Crawl and I assume you are also the person who
> copy pasts Bob Bruhns comments and posts onto this
> website. I'd suggest you stop before the admin has
> no option but to ban you to avoid copyright C&Ds.
> Friendly advice. I enjoy the articles you post by
> the way, but it would be better to be a link for
> that reason.
No one cares! It happens on every forum throughout the internet daily. Cary is a fine gentleman and will not ban anyone for posting information.
I'll say it again, no one cares and it's not stealing.
Re: Should Virginia Sell Air Rights Over the Dulles Toll Road?
Posted by:
Cool deal
()
Date: July 08, 2013 04:54PM
Alexander Smith Wrote:
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> The Ghost of Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What does copyright infringement have to do
> with
> > him? I am trying to protect this site from
> being
> > taken down because some dolt likes to copy
> paste
> > from other websites that specifically say not
> to
> > do that. You need to get over your little spat
> > with him. Also, way to make it quite evident
> that
> > you asdfasdfasdf are also known as Sprawl and
> > Crawl and I assume you are also the person who
> > copy pasts Bob Bruhns comments and posts onto
> this
> > website. I'd suggest you stop before the admin
> has
> > no option but to ban you to avoid copyright
> C&Ds.
> > Friendly advice. I enjoy the articles you post
> by
> > the way, but it would be better to be a link
> for
> > that reason.
>
> No one cares! It happens on every forum throughout
> the internet daily. Cary is a fine gentleman and
> will not ban anyone for posting information.
>
>
>
>
>
> I'll say it again, no one cares and it's not
> stealing.
You would be a terrible lawyer, but cool deal. I hope you are right for your sake, cause to me its pretty cut and clear. If the patch were to find out, this website would be screwed thanks to you.
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> The Ghost of Tysons Engineer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What does copyright infringement have to do
> with
> > him? I am trying to protect this site from
> being
> > taken down because some dolt likes to copy
> paste
> > from other websites that specifically say not
> to
> > do that. You need to get over your little spat
> > with him. Also, way to make it quite evident
> that
> > you asdfasdfasdf are also known as Sprawl and
> > Crawl and I assume you are also the person who
> > copy pasts Bob Bruhns comments and posts onto
> this
> > website. I'd suggest you stop before the admin
> has
> > no option but to ban you to avoid copyright
> C&Ds.
> > Friendly advice. I enjoy the articles you post
> by
> > the way, but it would be better to be a link
> for
> > that reason.
>
> No one cares! It happens on every forum throughout
> the internet daily. Cary is a fine gentleman and
> will not ban anyone for posting information.
>
>
>
>
>
> I'll say it again, no one cares and it's not
> stealing.
You would be a terrible lawyer, but cool deal. I hope you are right for your sake, cause to me its pretty cut and clear. If the patch were to find out, this website would be screwed thanks to you.