Liberal Logic 12 Wrote:
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> Please go ahead and go into detail about the
> complexities of an issue then. You wont because
> you have nothing to add other than to parrot the
> talking points. The moron above cant even tell who
> posts what, lets see if you can do better

When youve resorted to pointing out that nobody can tell one twin idiot from another on an internet message board you know youve lost the battle.

He's lost it several times. Don't tell him though... he wouldn't understand.

Sad State of Affairs Wrote:
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> Liberal logic 12, 14, 15, whatever has repeatedly
> shown himself to have no capacity whatsoever to
> understand the complexities of an issue - and no
> desire to do so. He is so ridiculous that it would
> be easy to dismiss him, except that he represents
> a significant portion of the electorate - the 'low
> information' voter.
>
> I don't know which is worse - the proudly stupid
> and ignorant (the Honey Boo Boo crowd) or the
> rabid proponents of a completely misguided set of
> beliefs (LL 15 et al). Either way, these people
> are dangerous because they vote. And they will
> drag down our country if we let them. They already
> have.

+1

I thought this deserved to be repeated on Page 2.

Liberal Facts 15 Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 12 Wrote:
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> > Amazing, absolutely amazing you referred to me
> > directly and indirectly in the 3rd person like
> Im
> > two different people in the same sentence.
>
> You effectively ARE the same person. I've come to
> realize that the astounding thing about your party
> is how homogeneous you are, how you all repeat the
> same talking points, and how you drop to insults
> when you have nothing to say.
>

Says the guy parroting Dem talking points re the "Southern Strategy" and insulting people. lol

Since apparently you're not capable of doing anything more than clicking on a link to a summary article and dismissing it without any further look, here is most of the full source discussed in the first link:

http://books.google.com/books?id=6CvvMjI2Hc0C&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

You can examine their analysis of voting results in detail for yourself.

And another shorter article which looks at basically the same question - that of the shift in voting results in the South and when that happened and why.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/04/30/southern_whites_shift_to_the_gop_predates_the_60s_118172.html

And a related article here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/09/09/misunderstanding_the_southern_realignment_107084.html

These as well as many others, all show basically the same thing - that the shift alleged to have been primarily racially based and attributable to the infamous "Southern Strategy" was underway long before any such strategy is even claimed to have existed. Rather, it primarily reflected increased economic development and growing wealth in the South (and elsewhere too btw) following WWII. Which completely undercuts the entire premise for the legend.

Gerry Connolly got booed at a parade.

So what, he earned it because of his rhetoric that all Republicans are evil.

Republicans attend parades, wave flags, and voice their opinions of politicians, just like Democrats and others.

Again, so what. Gerry has a tough skin, and says what he does to gain favor with his party's leadership, who hopefully will respond by allowing him to bring home the bacon to Fairfax.

And that, Honey Boo Boo, is the extent of the complex issues that brought us to page 2.

Good night.

And he comes back to do it all again...

(No, I don't believe that these are "different people", for an instant.)

Let's see what someone who can read with a sixth-grade level of comprehension might have seen in my comments:

> Third, I threw out the "Southern Strategy" which is largely regarded as
> fact, and acknowledged an intelligent argument.

Hmmm... "largely regarded as fact". Two days ago, I posted that. The phrase actually means that it's accepted in the mainstream, and I clearly was not calling it "fact". And I acknowleged something that actually had some substance.

And yesterday, there I am expressing my willingness to consider the argument:

> I still might do it at some point, because yes - the "Southern Strategy" is
> regarded as fact, and seems to match up with observation, but unlike most
> Conservatives, I tend to question things, even when I've found the source to
> be trustworthy in the past. I do like to have a firm grasp of the facts,
> even when they aren't convenient for me.

And in the same post, I break it down that I'm willing to reevaluate the position in easier-to-follow English, just in case the first part escaped you:

> I'll still keep a question-mark beside the "Southern Strategy" argument for
> the moment

But afterward, you come back and belabor the one point a half-dozen times despite what's in black and white.

And this goes to the heart of what I see from your party. There's never a willingness to reconsider anything, or conceed any point, no matter how obviously flawed it might be. As a group, you simply retrench and scream more loudly, just as you've done here.

That's what I mean by dialog... I might as well be screaming into a garbage disposal since the appliance is likely to understand and reason just as well as you do.

It's not just you - it's your party. If anyone actually shows an inch of intellectual progress, they run the risk of being ostracized by the rest of your white-bread clan. Admit nothing, consider nothing, conceed nothing... you folks just don't ever evolve, and never stray from your own talking points. Over the past twenty years, many of us have grown intellectually, or at least in the direction of tolerance. We learn, we accept mistakes, we grow. I've never once seen a die-hard Republican really change their mind about anything, and you have Fox News providing a "slot-car racer"-like track to keep you all on the exact same lines, no matter how many times their "facts" fail in the real world. Even the Church has shown a capacity to stop on occasion and reconsider their messages, though it generally takes a ludicrous level of proof before they will budge an inch.

As was demonstrated here, one stop and explain things, show what was printed in black and white, and none of it sticks. Your party is never "wrong". If misdirection and excuses can't cover for your shortcomings, you just engage in a bizarre group-think sense of denial, and turn to the person beside you so that you can each tell each other how "right" you are.

It's dangerous. We've seen it many other times, but one that really comes to mind - since it's cost thousands of American lives, and continues to do so - was the entire WMD fallacy that was forced upon the American public, with regard to Iraq, so many years ago. It appears unlikely that we'll ever be able to stabilize that country enough for it to pose less of a danger than it did when "W" took office.

You are a party of white apes, and you make every effort to undo everything that's truly great about this country.

TL/CNR (Too Long, Could Not Read)

Liberal Facts 15 Wrote:
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>
> You are a party of white apes, and you make every
> effort to undo everything that's truly great about
> this country.

Just one more reason why no one takes your long incoherent ramblings seriously.

I'm intrigued that you consider Rush Limbaugh such a threat to your agenda. How many voters do you believe actually listen to him, maybe 1% at most?

I listen to Rush for the entertainment value, even when I don't agree with his opinions, though I'm later proven wrong when I don't believe him initially.

Here's an article Rush read on today's show:

http://gawker.com/texas-man-accidentally-shoots-girlfriend-while-aiming-a-718586793

Of course, Rush had to punctuate it with a rim shot:

"Who do you think these people voted for?"

I laughed.

Carry The One Wrote:
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> Sad State of Affairs Wrote:
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> -----
> > Liberal logic 12, 14, 15, whatever has
> repeatedly
> > shown himself to have no capacity whatsoever to
> > understand the complexities of an issue - and
> no
> > desire to do so. He is so ridiculous that it
> would
> > be easy to dismiss him, except that he
> represents
> > a significant portion of the electorate - the
> 'low
> > information' voter.
> >
> > I don't know which is worse - the proudly
> stupid
> > and ignorant (the Honey Boo Boo crowd) or the
> > rabid proponents of a completely misguided set
> of
> > beliefs (LL 15 et al). Either way, these people
> > are dangerous because they vote. And they will
> > drag down our country if we let them. They
> already
> > have.
>
> +1
>
> I thought this deserved to be repeated on Page 2.

Still waiting for those examples that wont ever come because youre parroting talking points

Liberal Facts 15 Wrote:
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> You are a party of white apes, and you make every
> effort to undo everything that's truly great about
> this country.

You are an idiot theres just no other way to put it.

Im not the same as the other guy, I would never bother to waste time taking a brain dead idiot like yourself seriously. I see through your bullshit progressive agenda and know what a lost cause you are.

Its quite humorous how you act like youre doing people a favor considering something, youre not youre an idiot.

I dont know why the other guy bothers trying to engage you in a serious manner youve proven time and time again not to be worth it.

Your argument is because he wouldnt concede that your bullshit talking point isnt real hes the idiot? Again your an idiot.

I cannot emphasis enough how much of a complete idiot you are. So I just want to make it clear that you are an absolute idiot who no one should take seriously.

All you do is make these big sweeping bullshit talking point generalizations yet you cant ever give facts or details or examples about them. That guy gave you a serious response and you get on this high horse full of shit response because you cant engage on the issue.

So just to be clear you are a complete idiot full of liberal white guilt whose just trying to use this thread to push your bullshit out there.

Either give specifics with details and facts or save your windbag responses for your husband. Oh I almost forgot youre an absolute idiot

Keep registering my name too, its so hard to change the number moron.

I know if I walked in a Fairfax parade, all the demokrats would cheer for me too, along with Chairman Mao, Hugo Chavez, and Kim Jong Un (if they weren't all dead).

A useful conservative is a fiscal conservative.

A fiscal conservative is a person who respects the rule of law and insists on keeping taxes at a level capable of paying for all of the laws and wars on the books because he knows that's the only way to hold the electorate and their representatives to account.

A Republican who tries to derail legislation by refusing to pay for it undermines the rule of law.
The same goes for a Republican who starts a war without paying for it.

The US tax code is the world's greatest shell game. A true conservative would make real tax reform his or her top priority, not social issues.

Darn... you broke his run.

I figured he'd prattle to himself all day.

It's certainly the best way for him to find agreement.

Still waiting for you to show some specific facts and not just speak in your generalized bullshit since you think you have such a good understanding of everything.

Shocking all you can do is spit out talking points

Liberal Logic 76 Wrote:
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> Still waiting for you to show some specific facts
> and not just speak in your generalized bullshit
> since you think you have such a good understanding
> of everything.
>
> Shocking all you can do is spit out talking points

And I'm waiting for you to craft a proper sentence.

No, there's no reason to bother - you can't recognize when someone is truly trying to understand what ticks inside your feeble mind, and you've demonstrated that you wouldn't recognize an intelligent point if it fell out of the sky, landed on your face, and started to wiggle.
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Exactly what I thought. You just want to spread your bullshit hyperbole and cant show a specific example or explain anything. You just know how to parrot talking points and act like theyre facts.

I knew this from the start which is why I treated you like an idiot.

That's stunning.

I was honestly just wondering if you could make it through a single post without including a reference to parrots, the phrase "talking points" (I know you heard that a lot on Fox during the Benghazi "scandal"), or using the word "idiot".

And then, as if on cue, you just pull a hat-trick!

Liberal Logic 76 Wrote:
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> Exactly what I thought. You just want to spread
> your bullshit hyperbole and cant show a specific
> example or explain anything. You just know how to
> parrot talking points and act like theyre facts.
>
>
> I knew this from the start which is why I treated
> you like an idiot.

I'm still waiting for a single sentence written in English, by the way. Keep at it, and I'm sure the law of averages will turn in your favor... eventually.

Two responses now, I can see thinking is very difficult to you.

Thanks for proving youre the idiot we all knew you to be.

You can stop now, Im not responding to you anymore. I can find the talking points on my own, I dont need you to keep posting them.

"You can stop now, Im not responding to you anymore."

Your post seems to contradict itself.

"I can find the talking points on my own, I dont need you to keep posting them."

If you think I've been posting "talking points", then you do not understand the phrase. I've suspected that for a while.

You've still failed to form a SINGLE correct sentence, though you did manage two include two out of three words/phrases which confirms just how little you have to say.

And yet you stand on the "idiocy" mantra. The ridiculousness is self-evident.

If you're truly done here, I'll sign off with something that you can understand and respect. Your role-model might even help to expand your vocabulary, which would be a welcome breath of fresh air.
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Liberal Facts 15 Wrote:
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> "You can stop now, Im not responding to you
> anymore."
>
> Your post seems to contradict itself.
>
> "I can find the talking points on my own, I dont
> need you to keep posting them."
>
> If you think I've been posting "talking points",
> then you do not understand the phrase. I've
> suspected that for a while.
>

WMDS!

HALIBURTON!

BOOOOSH!

lulz

8 More Years, II Wrote:
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> The Insane Party of Hatred stars again - it's not
> what you're for, it's what you're against!

Yeah, you'd think the Democrats would have stuck their collective heads together and come up with a different strategy. The hatred, bigotry, arrogance and intolerance of today's Democrat Party is reminiscent of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

It's sad to see a party that once stood for individual civil liberty turn into a party that stands for police states and dictatorships. Very sad.....

I remember when Democrats used to protest and resist the power of big government; now they embrace it, bow to it, and respect it like a small child would a father.

Dems-Now for Police State Wrote:
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> 8 More Years, II Wrote:
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> > The Insane Party of Hatred stars again - it's
> not
> > what you're for, it's what you're against!
>
> Yeah, you'd think the Democrats would have stuck
> their collective heads together and come up with a
> different strategy. The hatred, bigotry,
> arrogance and intolerance of today's Democrat
> Party is reminiscent of Nazi Germany and the
> Soviet Union.
>
> It's sad to see a party that once stood for
> individual civil liberty turn into a party that
> stands for police states and dictatorships. Very
> sad.....
>
> I remember when Democrats used to protest and
> resist the power of big government; now they
> embrace it, bow to it, and respect it like a small
> child would a father.

I only align with Democrats because the Red party leaves me no choice. Anyone who has a die-hard party affiliation (and isn't getting a paycheck from it) is little more than a follower.

Despite Reagan tripling our national debt in just three years, I didn't really think that the Republicans had completely flipped their collective minds until Bush Jr.

But yes, I'm intolerant of your intolerance. It's an interesting dilema.

Not A Dem, Just A Thought Wrote:
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> I only align with Democrats because the Red party
> leaves me no choice.

Anyone who starts out with a line like that is a die hard dem whose either bought into the bullshit or is just trying to play a moderate hoping to turn others.

The GOP is more moderate than its ever been while the Dems are so far left moderates get kicked out of their party.

Nice try though

Liberal Logic 76 Wrote:
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> Not A Dem, Just A Thought Wrote:
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>
> > I only align with Democrats because the Red
> party
> > leaves me no choice.
>
> Anyone who starts out with a line like that is a
> die hard dem whose either bought into the bullshit
> or is just trying to play a moderate hoping to
> turn others.
>
> The GOP is more moderate than its ever been while
> the Dems are so far left moderates get kicked out
> of their party.
>
> Nice try though

I'm tempted to think that you honestly believe that.

Yuppers... Lincoln was a right-winger.

Not A Dem, Just A Thought Wrote:
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> I'm tempted to think that you honestly believe
> that.
>
> Yuppers... Lincoln was a right-winger.

Lincoln stopped all of us citizens from owning slaves

Todays party only wants to change the Constitution to stop gays from getting married and thats not our party, those are orders from God

You are an idiot whose just parroting your talking points again

Im done here

One more thing, look at the good things we do to help everyone

Sense women are to stupid to handle theyre own bodies, we try to save them and there unwanted babies

We stop kids from learning about sex because if they understand it, theyll get pregnant more

Were trying to get rid of social safety nets because hunger motivates people to go to work

Were working to make the rich richer so that theyll hire more people than they need

We bailed out the airlines (and the FAA) because congress flies a lot and they need to move about freely to run this country good

So what decent talking points can you parrot you idiot?

I gave three good points in my last post

Still waiting for you to show me something

Or did you run out of talking points to parrot you idiot?

Stupid Demokrat

Hi Ferfux, I knew it was a matter of time until you lost your shit getting called out on your bullshit

For all their hysteria, it's today's deranged right wing that is rapidly destroying our country. Our middle class reduced to serfdom, the greedy class run rampant, our women's health jeopardized, our justice system privatized and bowlderized, our children uneducated, our national treasure squandered on pointless wars and cronyism, our national bounty destroyed by greed and carelessness, our peace and tranquility wracked by gun violence, our government disdained and discredited, our governing institutions weakened and sabotaged, our participatory democracy rigged, ALL due to GOP policy in action.

Seriously how many different screen names are you going to post under Ferfux? Different screen name, same dumbass bullshit.

Liberal Logic 76 Wrote:
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> Seriously how many different screen names are you
> going to post under Ferfux? Different screen
> name, same dumbass bullshit.

God, you're an idiot. How many times do you have to be told that there is more than one liberal (i.e., sane) person in Fairfax? I guess your small mind just can't process that.

Pot Kettle Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 76 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Seriously how many different screen names are
> you
> > going to post under Ferfux? Different screen
> > name, same dumbass bullshit.
>
> God, you're an idiot. How many times do you have
> to be told that there is more than one liberal
> (i.e., sane) person in Fairfax? I guess your small
> mind just can't process that.

So every liberal is this stupid, got it.

I wasnt aware that they were all complete fucking idiots. If you say theyre all this dumb and its not just one person Ill take your word for it.

Not A Dem, Just A Thought Wrote:
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> Dems-Now for Police State Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 8 More Years, II Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Insane Party of Hatred stars again - it's
> > not
> > > what you're for, it's what you're against!
> >
> > Yeah, you'd think the Democrats would have
> stuck
> > their collective heads together and come up with
> a
> > different strategy. The hatred, bigotry,
> > arrogance and intolerance of today's Democrat
> > Party is reminiscent of Nazi Germany and the
> > Soviet Union.
> >
> > It's sad to see a party that once stood for
> > individual civil liberty turn into a party that
> > stands for police states and dictatorships.
> Very
> > sad.....
> >
> > I remember when Democrats used to protest and
> > resist the power of big government; now they
> > embrace it, bow to it, and respect it like a
> small
> > child would a father.


> But yes, I'm intolerant of your intolerance. It's
> an interesting dilema.

Actually, you are intolerant of anyone who doesn't agree with you. You are intolerant of Christians and Jews. You are intolerant of white people, unless they are gay, atheist, or lick Obama's boots.

You are intolerant of anyone, black or white, who resists being controlled by an always expanding federal government.

I find it difficult to understand why anyone, any intelligent person, at least, would prefer the position of slave. And, that is what the democrats of today have become. The Party of Slaves to their beloved government. The Slaves are so impressed with the morons who make up the federal government, they will do whatever their masters instruct. They would march to their ultimate deaths, the sad souls they have become.

Today's democrats have become the Party of Hate, the Party of Intolerance, the Party of Slaves and Brainless Adoration.

>
> Today's democrats have become the Party of Hate,
> the Party of Intolerance, the Party of Slaves and
> Brainless Adoration.


Kudos. That's exactly what they are, and appealing to the lowest common denominator.

> Today's democrats have become the Party of Hate,
> the Party of Intolerance, the Party of Slaves and
> Brainless Adoration.


You spelled "republicans" wrong

Tough One Wrote:
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> >
> > Today's RepubliKKKanz have become the Party of
> Hate,
> > the Party of Intolerance, the Party of Slaves
> and
> > Brainless Adoration.
>
>
> Kudos. That's exactly what they are, and appealing
> to the lowest common denominator.


You're welcome.

Liberal Logic 76 Wrote:
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> Hi Ferfux, I knew it was a matter of time until
> you lost your shit getting called out on your
> bullshit

Is Ferfux really a Liberal?

The only reason I even recognize the name is because Eesh accuses people of being him quite often.

But, no, I'm not Ferfux, you talking-point parroting idiot.

Liberal Logic 007 Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 76 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hi Ferfux, I knew it was a matter of time until
> > you lost your shit getting called out on your
> > bullshit
>
> Is Ferfux really a Liberal?
>
> The only reason I even recognize the name is
> because Eesh accuses people of being him quite
> often.
>
> But, no, I'm not Ferfux, you talking-point
> parroting idiot.


Take your meds Ferfux.

You could be weseal as well, weseal was just as stupid as ferfux. Radiophile usually uses registered names unless youve switched it up.

Either way youre still a fucking idiot.

Liberal Logic 76 Wrote:
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> Take your meds Ferfux.
>
> You could be weseal as well, weseal was just as
> stupid as ferfux. Radiophile usually uses
> registered names unless youve switched it up.
>
> Either way youre still a fucking idiot.

It must be nice to not even recognize the embarassment that you should be feeling every time you hit "post".
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Leave "W" out of this

He was actually brilliant
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Wait, booos?
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So Serious Wrote:
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> > Today's democrats have become the Party of
> Hate,
> > the Party of Intolerance, the Party of Slaves
> and
> > Brainless Adoration.
>
>
> You spelled "republicans" wrong


Ha, ha, ha, that's so fucking funny...

I wanna party with you.

Liberal Logic 77 Wrote:
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> Leave "W" out of this
>
> He was actually brilliant


Hi ferfux