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small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: ferfux ()
Date: May 31, 2013 05:48AM

Plane ran out of gas and crashed into an apartment building in Herndon. No fatalities on the ground.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: ferfux ()
Date: May 31, 2013 05:49AM

HERNDON, Va. - A small plane headed to the Manassas Regional Airport from the Philadelphia area ran out of fuel and crashed into a Herndon apartment building early Friday.

"Good thing it didn't have any (fuel) when it crashed into the living room because we'd probably have a totally different scenario right now," says Capt. Willie F. Bailey with Fairfax County Fire and Rescue.

"It didn't hit into the bedroom area at all."

Three people -- two in the apartment and one in the Cessna 177B -- sustained minor injuries following the 12:30 a.m. crash at the Dulles Greene Apartments on Astoria Circle. The complex is near the Dulles Toll Road.

"It could have been a whole lot worse," said Bailey.

"It's a blessing that no one got killed or any major injuries."

Nine adults, seven children and three pets had to be evacuated from the apartment building. The American Red Cross is assisting them.

Bailey says the crash did not cause any major structural damage to the three-story building. The plane remains lodged in the building.

WTOP's Kristi King and Lacey Mason contributed to this story. Follow @kingWTOP, @LaceyWTOP and @WTOP on Twitter.

© 2013 WTOP. All Rights Reserved.
Tags: plane crash, herondon, dulles green apartments, astoria circle, innovation avenue, willie bailey

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Pilot ()
Date: May 31, 2013 05:57AM

Planning can be your friend although running out of fuel coming just from Philly shows that wasn't happening. IAD or even the Toll Road may have been good alternates for this problem.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Pictures! ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:24AM

ferfux Wrote:
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> HERNDON, Va. - A small plane headed to the
> Manassas Regional Airport from the Philadelphia
> area ran out of fuel and crashed into a Herndon
> apartment building early Friday.
>
> "Good thing it didn't have any (fuel) when it
> crashed into the living room because we'd probably
> have a totally different scenario right now," says
> Capt. Willie F. Bailey with Fairfax County Fire
> and Rescue.
>
> "It didn't hit into the bedroom area at all."
>
> Three people -- two in the apartment and one in
> the Cessna 177B -- sustained minor injuries
> following the 12:30 a.m. crash at the Dulles
> Greene Apartments on Astoria Circle. The complex
> is near the Dulles Toll Road.
>
> "It could have been a whole lot worse," said
> Bailey.
>
> "It's a blessing that no one got killed or any
> major injuries."
>
> Nine adults, seven children and three pets had to
> be evacuated from the apartment building. The
> American Red Cross is assisting them.
>
> Bailey says the crash did not cause any major
> structural damage to the three-story building. The
> plane remains lodged in the building.
>
> WTOP's Kristi King and Lacey Mason contributed to
> this story. Follow @kingWTOP, @LaceyWTOP and @WTOP
> on Twitter.
>
> © 2013 WTOP. All Rights Reserved.
> Tags: plane crash, herondon, dulles green
> apartments, astoria circle, innovation avenue,
> willie bailey
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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: John Denver ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:34AM

This story gives me an EMPTY feeling...

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:44AM

Didn't something like this happen in that old Robin Williams movie, "The World according to Garp"? LOL

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: facepalm ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:59AM

"No major structural damage"? Maybe not yet, lets see what removing that plane does to the building!

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Two Cents ()
Date: May 31, 2013 07:17AM

Keep it there and charge admission to take a look. Heck, I'd pay $5 to go in there and see.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: toosoon ()
Date: May 31, 2013 07:19AM

Sign a lease before June 5th and get a free sunroom! *conditions apply

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Fly Guy ()
Date: May 31, 2013 07:45AM

Pilot Wrote:
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> Planning can be your friend although running out
> of fuel coming just from Philly shows that wasn't
> happening. IAD or even the Toll Road may have
> been good alternates for this problem.


Looks like it could be bad planning or failure to monitor the fuel level or faulty gauges or maybe a leak. We will have to wait for the NTSB report. It appears that the electrical/hydralic systems were working as the pilot was able to deploy the landing gear.

I don't think IAD or the Toll Road were possible alternates since the accident happened north of the toll road. It would not have made it that far. Emergency ditching in the dark of night can be scary and very dangerous. You only have one shot and your visibility is very limited.

A crane was over there this morning and plucked the plane out of the building. Looks like only minor damage to the building.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Great news ()
Date: May 31, 2013 11:07AM

let's pray for a high body count! Babies, a plus!

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: flying Locust ()
Date: May 31, 2013 11:13AM

Third floor was jammed with illegals. 3 dudes and 4 kids in a two bedroom apartment.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Check pleese ()
Date: May 31, 2013 11:48AM

You might be able to find a one-bedroom apt now.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: May 31, 2013 11:54AM

Time to ban small planes

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Mr Pilot ()
Date: May 31, 2013 01:08PM

Fly Guy Wrote:
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> Pilot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Planning can be your friend although running
> out
> > of fuel coming just from Philly shows that
> wasn't
> > happening. IAD or even the Toll Road may have
> > been good alternates for this problem.
>
>
> Looks like it could be bad planning or failure to
> monitor the fuel level or faulty gauges or maybe a
> leak. We will have to wait for the NTSB report.
> It appears that the electrical/hydralic systems
> were working as the pilot was able to deploy the
> landing gear.
>
> I don't think IAD or the Toll Road were possible
> alternates since the accident happened north of
> the toll road. It would not have made it that
> far. Emergency ditching in the dark of night can
> be scary and very dangerous. You only have one
> shot and your visibility is very limited.
>
> A crane was over there this morning and plucked
> the plane out of the building. Looks like only
> minor damage to the building.

He probably forgot to put enough gas in. It happens to me all the time.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: ferfux ()
Date: May 31, 2013 01:30PM

“They said the pilot walked off the plane,” Jameyson said. “The pilot said, ‘We landed our plane in your apartment,’ or something to that effect.”


LMAO!

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Errf ()
Date: May 31, 2013 03:14PM

Fly Guy Wrote:
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Emergency ditching in the dark of night can
> be scary and very dangerous. You only have one
> shot and your visibility is very limited.

True, I prefer to do my emergency ditches in the day time.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Guest. ()
Date: May 31, 2013 04:40PM

Fly Guy Wrote:
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>
> Looks like it could be bad planning or failure to
> monitor the fuel level or faulty gauges or maybe a
> leak. We will have to wait for the NTSB report.
> It appears that the electrical/hydralic systems
> were working as the pilot was able to deploy the
> landing gear.
>

A Cessna 177B doesn't have a retractable gear.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Captian obvious ()
Date: May 31, 2013 05:05PM

Guest. Wrote:
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> Fly Guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Looks like it could be bad planning or failure
> to
> > monitor the fuel level or faulty gauges or maybe
> a
> > leak. We will have to wait for the NTSB report.
>
> > It appears that the electrical/hydralic systems
> > were working as the pilot was able to deploy
> the
> > landing gear.
> >
>
> A Cessna 177B doesn't have a retractable gear.


No shit.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Duh! ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:10PM

Guest. Wrote:
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> Fly Guy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Looks like it could be bad planning or failure
> to
> > monitor the fuel level or faulty gauges or maybe
> a
> > leak. We will have to wait for the NTSB report.
>
> > It appears that the electrical/hydralic systems
> > were working as the pilot was able to deploy
> the
> > landing gear.
> >
>
> A Cessna 177B doesn't have a retractable gear.

Well duh!

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Plane Audio ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:16PM

Here's the audio from the pilot calling in the midday. The plane is named "DC photo."

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/209698811.html

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:24PM

Was Meade the pilot?

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Fly Guy ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:28PM

Plane Audio Wrote:
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> Here's the audio from the pilot calling in the
> midday. The plane is named "DC photo."
>
> http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/209698811.
> html


Well at least the pilot stayed calm.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Dc Photos ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:39PM

The Vienna pilot injured after his plane crashed through the roof of a Herndon area apartment building is a local aerial photographer who was apparently on the job when his plane went down early Friday morning.

Plane registration records indicate the four-seater plane involved in Friday's crash belong to AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHERS LLC, a Vienna photography company whose office is located on Park Street.

http://www.dcairphotos.com/

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Da Plane, Da plane ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:45PM

The plane
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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Da Plane ()
Date: May 31, 2013 06:45PM

Da plane, da plane
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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Tattoo ()
Date: May 31, 2013 08:15PM

Da Plane! DA PLANE!
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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: ???????????? ()
Date: May 31, 2013 08:18PM

Two Cents Wrote:
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> Didn't something like this happen in that old
> Robin Williams movie, "The World according to
> Garp"? LOL

sure did. strangest movie EVER! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxHrl-PyvTE

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Meade is Elvis ()
Date: May 31, 2013 08:34PM

Tough One Wrote:
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> Was Meade the pilot?


Meade would have landed that bitch and taken a good pull of some Sweet Tea!

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Dumb Ass Pilot ()
Date: May 31, 2013 08:53PM

This goddamb pilot should be charged with incompetance, reckless flying, not checking fuel gauge, and other crimes. I hope this mother fucker gets felony charges real soon or I might beat the living shit out of the old bastard.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: next please ()
Date: May 31, 2013 08:55PM

Dumb Ass Pilot Wrote:
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> This goddamb pilot should be charged with
> incompetance, reckless flying, not checking fuel
> gauge, and other crimes. I hope this mother fucker
> gets felony charges real soon or I might beat the
> living shit out of the old bastard.


Finally, we moved on from bashing cops,firemen, and teachers. Im guessing train conductors are next on the list.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: KPC3K ()
Date: May 31, 2013 11:32PM

And why was this plane out after midnight taking infered pictures in restricted air space?

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: juan n ()
Date: June 01, 2013 12:31AM

IT my apartmenet complex. Glad everything its ok

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: 4wdpV ()
Date: June 01, 2013 12:45AM

Nobody knows yet what happened or whose fault (if any) it really was. But running out of fuel tends to strongly point to the pilot. When the NTSB report comes out (usually takes about a year), I'll bet charges will be brought. Meanwhile, I guess there's a lot of immediate civil liability. Because no matter whose fault it was, there's no denying that a building was destroyed and people were ..umm. disturbed out of their sleep.

Thank God nobody (especially the people on the ground) was seriously injured or killed.

I don't have any problem with planes like that flying around though. You're much more likely to have some drunk drive their car through your living room than something like this plane crash.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: flying high again ()
Date: June 01, 2013 06:38PM

4wdpV Wrote:
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> Nobody knows yet what happened or whose fault (if
> any) it really was. But running out of fuel tends
> to strongly point to the pilot. When the NTSB
> report comes out (usually takes about a year),
> I'll bet charges will be brought. Meanwhile, I
> guess there's a lot of immediate civil liability.
> Because no matter whose fault it was, there's no
> denying that a building was destroyed and people
> were ..umm. disturbed out of their sleep.
>
> Thank God nobody (especially the people on the
> ground) was seriously injured or killed.
>
> I don't have any problem with planes like that
> flying around though. You're much more likely to
> have some drunk drive their car through your
> living room than something like this plane crash.


The cheap fucks are rebuilding the roof, calling it safe. That's fucked up shit.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: #1 ()
Date: June 11, 2013 07:06AM

Herndon plane crash only one of three that day
Several hundred fatal crashes occur every year, FAA says
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20130607/NEWS/130609430/1064/herndon-plane-crash-only-one-of-three-that-day&template=fairfaxTimes

A small private plane that crashed into a Herndon Apartment last week is not as uncommon an occurrence as one might suspect. Fortunately no one was seriously injured when a two-seat, single-engine Cessna crash landed into the top floor of a three-story apartment building in the 2200 block of Astoria Circle about 12:30 a.m. May 31.

Four adults and two children were asleep in the apartment at the time of the crash, according to Virginia State police. A 33-year-old woman was taken to Inova Fairfax Hospital for treatment of non-life threatening injuries. The plane’s pilot, William Larson, 61, of Vienna, suffered serious but not life-threatening injuries. The plane’s only passenger, Tache L. Alejandro of Orlando, Fla., suffered only minor injuries and was treated at the scene.

The nose of the plane came to rest on the living room floor of the apartment where truck driver David Ventura and his family were sleeping. A total of three families remain displaced and are being temporarily relocated to vacant apartments within the complex, according to the apartment complex’s management.

Larson and Alejandro both work for an aerial photography company and had been in the air taking infra-red photographs when the plane experienced electrical problems and the engine cut off, according to Virginia State police. The plane had departed from Northeast Philadelphia Airport, but because the plane was also running low on fuel, Larson had contacted Dulles Airport to re-route its destination. Originally the plane was to land at the Manassas Regional Airport.

Alejandro called 911 to report the crash.

In a recording of the call, he can be heard saying “We just crash-landed an airplane…we ran out of fuel.”

Others in the apartment complex also called 911, some believing that an explosion had occurred.

Hanish Patel, who lives in the apartment complex, said on the day of the crash that it felt like an earthquake. “I was awakened more by the feel of it than the noise of it,” he said.

Although the crash might seem like a rare incident, Federal Aviation Administration records show that small, privately owned aircraft accidents occur at staggering rates.

There were 95 similar accidents and incidents nationwide in a period of only 10 days leading up to the Herndon crash — May 20 to May 31, according to the FAA Aviation Safety Information Analysis and Sharing database. Twenty-nine of those — by far the highest number of any make — were in Cessna aircraft, according to the report. Of the 95, six crashes resulted in fatalities.

“We see several hundred fatal crashes every year,” FAA spokesperson Laura J. Brown said. “On the same day as the Herndon crash, we received reports of another single-engine Cessna crash in Washington State, and another single-engine plane that went down in New Jersey.”

There are likely more privately owned Cessna aircraft than any other make, and mishaps seem to escalate during warmer spring and summer months, when pilots take to the air more frequently, Brown said.

“Most reports are classified as ‘incidents’,” she said. “Many people are lucky enough to walk away. For an incident to be upgraded to an ‘accident,’ there must be significant injury or substantial damage to the aircraft.”

There are 4,589 private pilots licenses currently registered in the State of Virginia, according to the FAA’s Civil Airmen Registry.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: just wondering ()
Date: June 11, 2013 04:20PM

Were the proper authorities and responsibly parties notified of the incident? What was Romney's take on this versus-es Obama? Who has resigned and who needs to?

ferfux Wrote:
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> Plane ran out of gas and crashed into an apartment
> building in Herndon. No fatalities on the ground.

Were the proper authorities and responsibly parties notified of the incident? What was Romney's take on this versus-es Obama? Who has resigned and who needs to?

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: #1 ()
Date: June 11, 2013 04:22PM

#1 Wrote:
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> Although the crash might seem like a rare
> incident, Federal Aviation Administration records
> show that small, privately owned aircraft
> accidents occur at staggering rates.
>
> There were 95 similar accidents and incidents
> nationwide in a period of only 10 days leading up
> to the Herndon crash — May 20 to May 31,
> according to the FAA Aviation Safety Information
> Analysis and Sharing database. Twenty-nine of
> those — by far the highest number of any make
> — were in Cessna aircraft, according to the
> report. Of the 95, six crashes resulted in
> fatalities.
>
> “We see several hundred fatal crashes every
> year,” FAA spokesperson Laura J. Brown said.
> “On the same day as the Herndon crash, we
> received reports of another single-engine Cessna
> crash in Washington State, and another
> single-engine plane that went down in New
> Jersey.”
>
> There are likely more privately owned Cessna
> aircraft than any other make, and mishaps seem to
> escalate during warmer spring and summer months,
> when pilots take to the air more frequently, Brown
> said.
>
> “Most reports are classified as
> ‘incidents’,” she said. “Many people are
> lucky enough to walk away. For an incident to be
> upgraded to an ‘accident,’ there must be
> significant injury or substantial damage to the
> aircraft.”
>
> There are 4,589 private pilots licenses currently
> registered in the State of Virginia, according to
> the FAA’s Civil Airmen Registry.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Ya miss him? ()
Date: June 11, 2013 05:34PM

just wondering Wrote:
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> Were the proper authorities and responsibly
> parties notified of the incident? What was
> Romney's take on this versus-es Obama? Who has
> resigned and who needs to?
>
> ferfux Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Plane ran out of gas and crashed into an
> apartment
> > building in Herndon. No fatalities on the
> ground.
>
> Were the proper authorities and responsibly
> parties notified of the incident? What was
> Romney's take on this versus-es Obama? Who has
> resigned and who needs to?


Everyone knows it is Bush's fault.

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Re: small plane crashes into apartments in Herndon
Posted by: Crash bandicoot ()
Date: June 18, 2013 02:06PM

any explaination why this plane crashed? Also was Donnie Darko ok?

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