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Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
parent800
()
Date: December 21, 2007 10:54PM
From: http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Sharp_Sticks
Last night, I attended the third “Community Town Meeting” on Fairfax County’s West County H.S. Boundary Study held at Oakton, H.S. and was shocked by the lengths Fairfax County Public Schools is apparently willing to go to deceive the public on its redistricting plans. The school system seems to be employing a deliberate, calculated strategy to force a pre-ordained - but highly unpopular - redistricting decision down everybody’s throat, hoping that voters will forget the insult next time the School Board is up for reelection.
As happened at the previous “town hall” meeting at Westfields H.S., the public was split into small groups led by an FCPS “facilitator.” Divide and conquer is still an effective strategy, especially when you can get neighborhoods fighting among themselves instead of focusing on the big picture: Redistricting is not necessary, the current option is unfair, and nobody wants it.
Our facilitator in Room 215 was Barbara Fisher, who must have done her graduate work with the KGB. Ms. Fisher demanded that Hunter Mill resident Bruce Bennett (who had previously been escorted out of the Westfields meeting by the police for bringing his camcorder) not videotape the proceedings this time, either.
Bennett respectfully refused, citing his rights under Section 2.2-3707 (h) of the Virginia Code: “Any person may photograph, film, record or otherwise reproduce any portion of a meeting required to be open....” And if a community town hall meeting isn’t an “open” meeting, what is?
Ms. Fisher then called security and seven police officers soon arrived , accompanied by FCPS facilities chief Dean Tistadt. (See The Examiner’s editorial: www.examiner.com/a-1104757~Junk_the_Fairfax_school_redistricting_plan.html). Even though Tistadt had three weeks to bone up on the law, he told the officers that no videotaping would be allowed if even one participant objected. Then he argued that the no-videotaping policy was intended to protect any underage students in the room.
So once again, Mr. Bennett was escorted out of a public meeting for trying to exercise his right, confirmed by the state’s Freedom of Information office, to record it.
But Comrade Fisher wasn’t done. When she noticed another camcorder in the room, she demanded that Oak Hill resident Jay Frost turn his off, too, threatening to call the cops if he did not. Frost icily retorted that “I’m not one of your students” before leaving the room voluntarily.
Back in Room 215, we watched a typical FCPS offering – an extremely boring televised video that managed to evade every single objection to the redistricting plan raised at the previous town meeting. Fisher then put up large sheets of paper – the kind you use when you’re teaching kindergarteners their ABCs – to record our comments, deftly channeling most of the input into just two categories: Did we agree – or disagree – with the Dec. 19 “Alternative Option”? Which was, in fact, the only option on the table at this point.
Several of the participants complained that there was no “No Redistricting Option”. Others noted that comments made to this effect at the Westfields meeting never made it to the FCPS website.
I was not surprised. When my turn came to speak, I said that I thought the school system was deliberately misleading the public by offering only one option nobody wanted, and that these public meetings were nothing but a charade. Since my eyesight isn’t so good anymore, I didn’t notice the fact that Comrade Fisher neglected to write the word “charade” down; a student sitting in front of me helpfully pointed that out. I had to raise my hand and insist – twice – that this be done.
Despite Fisher’s totally inappropriate and insinuating remarks that nobody should feel “threatened” to voice their agreement with the redistricting plan (she was, in fact, the only one who ever threatened anybody all evening), the overwhelmingly majority in Room 215 (16 out of 20 – not counting Mr. Bennett or Mr. Frost) opposed any redistricting at all. We found this out only at the end of the meeting, and only after one woman demanded Fisher take a tally of those opposed to any redistricting at all. Fisher had initially refused to do this, claiming that it was “too chaotic” in the room for a show of hands. But this was a flat-out lie, as the group was much closer to docile than anything else.
Offering just one option and then using strong-arm tactics to curb dissent and stifle debate are the hallmarks of a dictatorship. “This is just like China,” one Asian man in attendance said, and his comment gave me the chills. He was right.
Today, I called Supt. Jack Dale’s office to ask why all the comments weren’t posted and why his stable of lawyers can’t read the Virginia Code. I’m still waiting....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2007 10:55PM by parent800.
Last night, I attended the third “Community Town Meeting” on Fairfax County’s West County H.S. Boundary Study held at Oakton, H.S. and was shocked by the lengths Fairfax County Public Schools is apparently willing to go to deceive the public on its redistricting plans. The school system seems to be employing a deliberate, calculated strategy to force a pre-ordained - but highly unpopular - redistricting decision down everybody’s throat, hoping that voters will forget the insult next time the School Board is up for reelection.
As happened at the previous “town hall” meeting at Westfields H.S., the public was split into small groups led by an FCPS “facilitator.” Divide and conquer is still an effective strategy, especially when you can get neighborhoods fighting among themselves instead of focusing on the big picture: Redistricting is not necessary, the current option is unfair, and nobody wants it.
Our facilitator in Room 215 was Barbara Fisher, who must have done her graduate work with the KGB. Ms. Fisher demanded that Hunter Mill resident Bruce Bennett (who had previously been escorted out of the Westfields meeting by the police for bringing his camcorder) not videotape the proceedings this time, either.
Bennett respectfully refused, citing his rights under Section 2.2-3707 (h) of the Virginia Code: “Any person may photograph, film, record or otherwise reproduce any portion of a meeting required to be open....” And if a community town hall meeting isn’t an “open” meeting, what is?
Ms. Fisher then called security and seven police officers soon arrived , accompanied by FCPS facilities chief Dean Tistadt. (See The Examiner’s editorial: www.examiner.com/a-1104757~Junk_the_Fairfax_school_redistricting_plan.html). Even though Tistadt had three weeks to bone up on the law, he told the officers that no videotaping would be allowed if even one participant objected. Then he argued that the no-videotaping policy was intended to protect any underage students in the room.
So once again, Mr. Bennett was escorted out of a public meeting for trying to exercise his right, confirmed by the state’s Freedom of Information office, to record it.
But Comrade Fisher wasn’t done. When she noticed another camcorder in the room, she demanded that Oak Hill resident Jay Frost turn his off, too, threatening to call the cops if he did not. Frost icily retorted that “I’m not one of your students” before leaving the room voluntarily.
Back in Room 215, we watched a typical FCPS offering – an extremely boring televised video that managed to evade every single objection to the redistricting plan raised at the previous town meeting. Fisher then put up large sheets of paper – the kind you use when you’re teaching kindergarteners their ABCs – to record our comments, deftly channeling most of the input into just two categories: Did we agree – or disagree – with the Dec. 19 “Alternative Option”? Which was, in fact, the only option on the table at this point.
Several of the participants complained that there was no “No Redistricting Option”. Others noted that comments made to this effect at the Westfields meeting never made it to the FCPS website.
I was not surprised. When my turn came to speak, I said that I thought the school system was deliberately misleading the public by offering only one option nobody wanted, and that these public meetings were nothing but a charade. Since my eyesight isn’t so good anymore, I didn’t notice the fact that Comrade Fisher neglected to write the word “charade” down; a student sitting in front of me helpfully pointed that out. I had to raise my hand and insist – twice – that this be done.
Despite Fisher’s totally inappropriate and insinuating remarks that nobody should feel “threatened” to voice their agreement with the redistricting plan (she was, in fact, the only one who ever threatened anybody all evening), the overwhelmingly majority in Room 215 (16 out of 20 – not counting Mr. Bennett or Mr. Frost) opposed any redistricting at all. We found this out only at the end of the meeting, and only after one woman demanded Fisher take a tally of those opposed to any redistricting at all. Fisher had initially refused to do this, claiming that it was “too chaotic” in the room for a show of hands. But this was a flat-out lie, as the group was much closer to docile than anything else.
Offering just one option and then using strong-arm tactics to curb dissent and stifle debate are the hallmarks of a dictatorship. “This is just like China,” one Asian man in attendance said, and his comment gave me the chills. He was right.
Today, I called Supt. Jack Dale’s office to ask why all the comments weren’t posted and why his stable of lawyers can’t read the Virginia Code. I’m still waiting....
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2007 10:55PM by parent800.
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
Gravis
()
Date: December 22, 2007 01:06PM
bad copy/paster! NO!
besides being a dumbass, you are violating dumbass copyright laws that i dont give a shit about. however, you are being a dumbass. next time just give a blurb and post the link. alternatively, kill your children and throw their corpses onto your arresting police officers. it's your choice.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
besides being a dumbass, you are violating dumbass copyright laws that i dont give a shit about. however, you are being a dumbass. next time just give a blurb and post the link. alternatively, kill your children and throw their corpses onto your arresting police officers. it's your choice.
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
TRICKIE
()
Date: December 22, 2007 01:27PM
Ha ha. That's funny that you mentioned Dean Tisdadt. He used to live in our neighborhood and was on the community pool board. he was just as big of a dope then. I see he has moved on to throw his weight around elsewhere. My opinion is they really don't want your input. They have already decided which neighborhoods will go to which schools and they are not going to change it. They just have those community meetings to act like they are getting citizen's input. It's a done deal already.
I have said over and over again that if you are unhappy with what is going ton at your local school, complain about it BEFORE it comes to this. At the school where I taught, the behavior was terrible and it was very unsafe. I always wondered why parents never complained then when it was going on on a regular basis. It wasn't until we had a redistricting issue that those complaints came up. If South Lakes really has kids who are disruptive and if they truly do have an unsafe environment, then parents should have been complaining to the school board all along. Get the incidents in the local paper. Come to your kid's school with your videocams and film some of those fights or film kids wandering the halls during class time. Did anyone there ever do that??
So now you are all complaining because your kids might have to go there. Or the former parents are here saying they pulled their kids out. Nothing will change in our schools until you as parents demand an orderly school. Now live with what you have.
I have said over and over again that if you are unhappy with what is going ton at your local school, complain about it BEFORE it comes to this. At the school where I taught, the behavior was terrible and it was very unsafe. I always wondered why parents never complained then when it was going on on a regular basis. It wasn't until we had a redistricting issue that those complaints came up. If South Lakes really has kids who are disruptive and if they truly do have an unsafe environment, then parents should have been complaining to the school board all along. Get the incidents in the local paper. Come to your kid's school with your videocams and film some of those fights or film kids wandering the halls during class time. Did anyone there ever do that??
So now you are all complaining because your kids might have to go there. Or the former parents are here saying they pulled their kids out. Nothing will change in our schools until you as parents demand an orderly school. Now live with what you have.
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
SL defender
()
Date: December 22, 2007 06:23PM
In response to Parent800
the reason people at redistricting meetings are spilt up in small groups is not to divide and conquer (or whatever paranoid reasons you parents come up with) is because of the lack of self control at the first meeting. it is disgraceful when adults will use public forums (such as fairfax underground and the first town meeting) to attack teenagers with their ignorance. redisticting is needed because when one highschool has one third of its kids on free/reduced lunch and the others barely 10%, thats a problem. When schools so overcrowded have to deny afterschool activities to most of their students because of limited space, thats a problem. When other highschools can be assured electivies and coaches and all the funding the want and the one thats disadvantaged has to deal with whatever is left over, that is a problem. education should be equal to everyone not just the ones who can afford lawyers to defend their friviolous notions prejudices and ignorance in court. parents who acted like they were 5 at the first meeting and sent students crying home because of their behavior you should be ashamed
the reason people at redistricting meetings are spilt up in small groups is not to divide and conquer (or whatever paranoid reasons you parents come up with) is because of the lack of self control at the first meeting. it is disgraceful when adults will use public forums (such as fairfax underground and the first town meeting) to attack teenagers with their ignorance. redisticting is needed because when one highschool has one third of its kids on free/reduced lunch and the others barely 10%, thats a problem. When schools so overcrowded have to deny afterschool activities to most of their students because of limited space, thats a problem. When other highschools can be assured electivies and coaches and all the funding the want and the one thats disadvantaged has to deal with whatever is left over, that is a problem. education should be equal to everyone not just the ones who can afford lawyers to defend their friviolous notions prejudices and ignorance in court. parents who acted like they were 5 at the first meeting and sent students crying home because of their behavior you should be ashamed
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
STUPID DETECTOR
()
Date: December 22, 2007 07:59PM
SL defender
YOU SOUND STUPID. SHUT UP.
Attachments:
YOU SOUND STUPID. SHUT UP.
Attachments:
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
Neen
()
Date: December 22, 2007 11:30PM
TRICKIE Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ha ha. That's funny that you mentioned Dean
> Tisdadt. He used to live in our neighborhood and
> was on the community pool board. he was just as
> big of a dope then. I see he has moved on to
> throw his weight around elsewhere. My opinion is
> they really don't want your input. They have
> already decided which neighborhoods will go to
> which schools and they are not going to change it.
> They just have those community meetings to act
> like they are getting citizen's input. It's a
> done deal already.
> I have said over and over again that if you are
> unhappy with what is going ton at your local
> school, complain about it BEFORE it comes to this.
> At the school where I taught, the behavior was
> terrible and it was very unsafe. I always
> wondered why parents never complained then when it
> was going on on a regular basis. It wasn't until
> we had a redistricting issue that those complaints
> came up. If South Lakes really has kids who are
> disruptive and if they truly do have an unsafe
> environment, then parents should have been
> complaining to the school board all along. Get
> the incidents in the local paper. Come to your
> kid's school with your videocams and film some of
> those fights or film kids wandering the halls
> during class time. Did anyone there ever do
> that??
> So now you are all complaining because your kids
> might have to go there. Or the former parents are
> here saying they pulled their kids out. Nothing
> will change in our schools until you as parents
> demand an orderly school. Now live with what you
> have.
HUH? Why would parents who weren't in South Lakes now, complain about it? Why would parents from other schools complain about a school that they weren't in? Why would out of boundary parents film at South Lakes? Why do they have to live with being forced to go there?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ha ha. That's funny that you mentioned Dean
> Tisdadt. He used to live in our neighborhood and
> was on the community pool board. he was just as
> big of a dope then. I see he has moved on to
> throw his weight around elsewhere. My opinion is
> they really don't want your input. They have
> already decided which neighborhoods will go to
> which schools and they are not going to change it.
> They just have those community meetings to act
> like they are getting citizen's input. It's a
> done deal already.
> I have said over and over again that if you are
> unhappy with what is going ton at your local
> school, complain about it BEFORE it comes to this.
> At the school where I taught, the behavior was
> terrible and it was very unsafe. I always
> wondered why parents never complained then when it
> was going on on a regular basis. It wasn't until
> we had a redistricting issue that those complaints
> came up. If South Lakes really has kids who are
> disruptive and if they truly do have an unsafe
> environment, then parents should have been
> complaining to the school board all along. Get
> the incidents in the local paper. Come to your
> kid's school with your videocams and film some of
> those fights or film kids wandering the halls
> during class time. Did anyone there ever do
> that??
> So now you are all complaining because your kids
> might have to go there. Or the former parents are
> here saying they pulled their kids out. Nothing
> will change in our schools until you as parents
> demand an orderly school. Now live with what you
> have.
HUH? Why would parents who weren't in South Lakes now, complain about it? Why would parents from other schools complain about a school that they weren't in? Why would out of boundary parents film at South Lakes? Why do they have to live with being forced to go there?
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
duh
()
Date: December 23, 2007 12:26AM
parent800 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> From: http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Sharp_Sticks
>
>
>
> Last night, I attended the third “Community Town
> Meeting” on Fairfax County’s West County H.S.
> Boundary Study held at Oakton, H.S. and was
> shocked by the lengths Fairfax County Public
> Schools is apparently willing to go to deceive the
> public on its redistricting plans. The school
> system seems to be employing a deliberate,
> calculated strategy to force a pre-ordained - but
> highly unpopular - redistricting decision down
> everybody’s throat, hoping that voters will forget
> the insult next time the School Board is up for
> reelection.
>
> As happened at the previous “town hall” meeting at
> Westfields H.S., the public was split into small
> groups led by an FCPS “facilitator.” Divide and
> conquer is still an effective strategy, especially
> when you can get neighborhoods fighting among
> themselves instead of focusing on the big picture:
> Redistricting is not necessary, the current option
> is unfair, and nobody wants it.
>
> Our facilitator in Room 215 was Barbara Fisher,
> who must have done her graduate work with the KGB.
> Ms. Fisher demanded that Hunter Mill resident
> Bruce Bennett (who had previously been escorted
> out of the Westfields meeting by the police for
> bringing his camcorder) not videotape the
> proceedings this time, either.
>
> Bennett respectfully refused, citing his rights
> under Section 2.2-3707 (h) of the Virginia Code:
> “Any person may photograph, film, record or
> otherwise reproduce any portion of a meeting
> required to be open....” And if a community town
> hall meeting isn’t an “open” meeting, what is?
>
> Ms. Fisher then called security and seven police
> officers soon arrived , accompanied by FCPS
> facilities chief Dean Tistadt. (See The Examiner’s
> editorial:
> www.examiner.com/a-1104757~Junk_the_Fairfax_school
> _redistricting_plan.html). Even though Tistadt had
> three weeks to bone up on the law, he told the
> officers that no videotaping would be allowed if
> even one participant objected. Then he argued that
> the no-videotaping policy was intended to protect
> any underage students in the room.
>
> So once again, Mr. Bennett was escorted out of a
> public meeting for trying to exercise his right,
> confirmed by the state’s Freedom of Information
> office, to record it.
>
> But Comrade Fisher wasn’t done. When she noticed
> another camcorder in the room, she demanded that
> Oak Hill resident Jay Frost turn his off, too,
> threatening to call the cops if he did not. Frost
> icily retorted that “I’m not one of your students”
> before leaving the room voluntarily.
>
> Back in Room 215, we watched a typical FCPS
> offering – an extremely boring televised video
> that managed to evade every single objection to
> the redistricting plan raised at the previous town
> meeting. Fisher then put up large sheets of paper
> – the kind you use when you’re teaching
> kindergarteners their ABCs – to record our
> comments, deftly channeling most of the input into
> just two categories: Did we agree – or disagree –
> with the Dec. 19 “Alternative Option”? Which was,
> in fact, the only option on the table at this
> point.
>
> Several of the participants complained that there
> was no “No Redistricting Option”. Others noted
> that comments made to this effect at the
> Westfields meeting never made it to the FCPS
> website.
>
> I was not surprised. When my turn came to speak, I
> said that I thought the school system was
> deliberately misleading the public by offering
> only one option nobody wanted, and that these
> public meetings were nothing but a charade. Since
> my eyesight isn’t so good anymore, I didn’t notice
> the fact that Comrade Fisher neglected to write
> the word “charade” down; a student sitting in
> front of me helpfully pointed that out. I had to
> raise my hand and insist – twice – that this be
> done.
>
> Despite Fisher’s totally inappropriate and
> insinuating remarks that nobody should feel
> “threatened” to voice their agreement with the
> redistricting plan (she was, in fact, the only one
> who ever threatened anybody all evening), the
> overwhelmingly majority in Room 215 (16 out of 20
> – not counting Mr. Bennett or Mr. Frost) opposed
> any redistricting at all. We found this out only
> at the end of the meeting, and only after one
> woman demanded Fisher take a tally of those
> opposed to any redistricting at all. Fisher had
> initially refused to do this, claiming that it was
> “too chaotic” in the room for a show of hands. But
> this was a flat-out lie, as the group was much
> closer to docile than anything else.
>
> Offering just one option and then using strong-arm
> tactics to curb dissent and stifle debate are the
> hallmarks of a dictatorship. “This is just like
> China,” one Asian man in attendance said, and his
> comment gave me the chills. He was right.
>
> Today, I called Supt. Jack Dale’s office to ask
> why all the comments weren’t posted and why his
> stable of lawyers can’t read the Virginia Code.
> I’m still waiting....
But if the Board had ruled in your favor, they would be the most brilliant people on earth, right?
You are an asshole with your KGB analogies...do you think the worst thing that happens in totalitarian regimes is that your little darling child would have to buy a different school sweatshirt...or be separated from his precious friends whose names he won't even remember in a few years?
I have a very close friend that fled Pol Pot's murderous Khmer Rouge in the early 80's....dodging pirates in a leaky boat in the South China Sea with just the clothes on her back. Today, just 20-some years later, she owns a home in Falls Church and her children attend the oft-maligned Falls Church High School. She thanks God every day for what America means to her and her family.
She's a true patriot...not a spoiled brat like you.
Put that "comrade" shit where the sun don't shine, eh?
-------------------------------------------------------
> From: http://www.examiner.com/blogs/Sharp_Sticks
>
>
>
> Last night, I attended the third “Community Town
> Meeting” on Fairfax County’s West County H.S.
> Boundary Study held at Oakton, H.S. and was
> shocked by the lengths Fairfax County Public
> Schools is apparently willing to go to deceive the
> public on its redistricting plans. The school
> system seems to be employing a deliberate,
> calculated strategy to force a pre-ordained - but
> highly unpopular - redistricting decision down
> everybody’s throat, hoping that voters will forget
> the insult next time the School Board is up for
> reelection.
>
> As happened at the previous “town hall” meeting at
> Westfields H.S., the public was split into small
> groups led by an FCPS “facilitator.” Divide and
> conquer is still an effective strategy, especially
> when you can get neighborhoods fighting among
> themselves instead of focusing on the big picture:
> Redistricting is not necessary, the current option
> is unfair, and nobody wants it.
>
> Our facilitator in Room 215 was Barbara Fisher,
> who must have done her graduate work with the KGB.
> Ms. Fisher demanded that Hunter Mill resident
> Bruce Bennett (who had previously been escorted
> out of the Westfields meeting by the police for
> bringing his camcorder) not videotape the
> proceedings this time, either.
>
> Bennett respectfully refused, citing his rights
> under Section 2.2-3707 (h) of the Virginia Code:
> “Any person may photograph, film, record or
> otherwise reproduce any portion of a meeting
> required to be open....” And if a community town
> hall meeting isn’t an “open” meeting, what is?
>
> Ms. Fisher then called security and seven police
> officers soon arrived , accompanied by FCPS
> facilities chief Dean Tistadt. (See The Examiner’s
> editorial:
> www.examiner.com/a-1104757~Junk_the_Fairfax_school
> _redistricting_plan.html). Even though Tistadt had
> three weeks to bone up on the law, he told the
> officers that no videotaping would be allowed if
> even one participant objected. Then he argued that
> the no-videotaping policy was intended to protect
> any underage students in the room.
>
> So once again, Mr. Bennett was escorted out of a
> public meeting for trying to exercise his right,
> confirmed by the state’s Freedom of Information
> office, to record it.
>
> But Comrade Fisher wasn’t done. When she noticed
> another camcorder in the room, she demanded that
> Oak Hill resident Jay Frost turn his off, too,
> threatening to call the cops if he did not. Frost
> icily retorted that “I’m not one of your students”
> before leaving the room voluntarily.
>
> Back in Room 215, we watched a typical FCPS
> offering – an extremely boring televised video
> that managed to evade every single objection to
> the redistricting plan raised at the previous town
> meeting. Fisher then put up large sheets of paper
> – the kind you use when you’re teaching
> kindergarteners their ABCs – to record our
> comments, deftly channeling most of the input into
> just two categories: Did we agree – or disagree –
> with the Dec. 19 “Alternative Option”? Which was,
> in fact, the only option on the table at this
> point.
>
> Several of the participants complained that there
> was no “No Redistricting Option”. Others noted
> that comments made to this effect at the
> Westfields meeting never made it to the FCPS
> website.
>
> I was not surprised. When my turn came to speak, I
> said that I thought the school system was
> deliberately misleading the public by offering
> only one option nobody wanted, and that these
> public meetings were nothing but a charade. Since
> my eyesight isn’t so good anymore, I didn’t notice
> the fact that Comrade Fisher neglected to write
> the word “charade” down; a student sitting in
> front of me helpfully pointed that out. I had to
> raise my hand and insist – twice – that this be
> done.
>
> Despite Fisher’s totally inappropriate and
> insinuating remarks that nobody should feel
> “threatened” to voice their agreement with the
> redistricting plan (she was, in fact, the only one
> who ever threatened anybody all evening), the
> overwhelmingly majority in Room 215 (16 out of 20
> – not counting Mr. Bennett or Mr. Frost) opposed
> any redistricting at all. We found this out only
> at the end of the meeting, and only after one
> woman demanded Fisher take a tally of those
> opposed to any redistricting at all. Fisher had
> initially refused to do this, claiming that it was
> “too chaotic” in the room for a show of hands. But
> this was a flat-out lie, as the group was much
> closer to docile than anything else.
>
> Offering just one option and then using strong-arm
> tactics to curb dissent and stifle debate are the
> hallmarks of a dictatorship. “This is just like
> China,” one Asian man in attendance said, and his
> comment gave me the chills. He was right.
>
> Today, I called Supt. Jack Dale’s office to ask
> why all the comments weren’t posted and why his
> stable of lawyers can’t read the Virginia Code.
> I’m still waiting....
But if the Board had ruled in your favor, they would be the most brilliant people on earth, right?
You are an asshole with your KGB analogies...do you think the worst thing that happens in totalitarian regimes is that your little darling child would have to buy a different school sweatshirt...or be separated from his precious friends whose names he won't even remember in a few years?
I have a very close friend that fled Pol Pot's murderous Khmer Rouge in the early 80's....dodging pirates in a leaky boat in the South China Sea with just the clothes on her back. Today, just 20-some years later, she owns a home in Falls Church and her children attend the oft-maligned Falls Church High School. She thanks God every day for what America means to her and her family.
She's a true patriot...not a spoiled brat like you.
Put that "comrade" shit where the sun don't shine, eh?
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
duh
()
Date: December 23, 2007 01:07AM
And furthermore, parent800....how exactly would you handle a large crowd of ME Generation parents? You people are the types that attack kiddy league refs and coaches when things don't go your way. FCPS and FCPD were pro-active, in my view, by splitting you up into small groups. Bloody riots have started over less!
BTW, I'm acquainted with a fellow who served with Dean Tistadt in Vietnam...he tells me he is a good man. How many of you spoiled brats served in 'Nam?
BTW, I'm acquainted with a fellow who served with Dean Tistadt in Vietnam...he tells me he is a good man. How many of you spoiled brats served in 'Nam?
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
WashingToneLocian
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Date: December 23, 2007 07:33AM
Nobody wants to believe it, but this is the fall-out from standardized tests. State and Federal monies are tied to test scores. The idea is to spread as many high achieving students to as many schools as possible. This isn't any different than school busing from the early 70s. When it comes to getting money, nothing you people say or do is going to make a difference. The School Board has a right to redistrict. End of story.
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
STUPID LIST
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Date: December 23, 2007 04:02PM
Duh,
You sound stupid too.
The stupid list is getting very long.
Attachments:
You sound stupid too.
The stupid list is getting very long.
Attachments:
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
taxpayer
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Date: December 24, 2007 08:33AM
WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> ...The School Board
> has a right to redistrict. End of story.
I agree but read this from The Department of Justice website:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/edo/filecomp.htm
"1. The EEOA prohibits the following practices at the elementary and secondary school levels.
...d. Assignment to other than the school closest to residence within the school district of residence which results in greater segregation on the basis of race, color, sex, or national origin."
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> ...The School Board
> has a right to redistrict. End of story.
I agree but read this from The Department of Justice website:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/edo/filecomp.htm
"1. The EEOA prohibits the following practices at the elementary and secondary school levels.
...d. Assignment to other than the school closest to residence within the school district of residence which results in greater segregation on the basis of race, color, sex, or national origin."
Re: Last Town Hall Meeting -- The school board's dictatorship
Posted by:
WashingToneLocian
()
Date: December 24, 2007 10:01AM
taxpayer Wrote:
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> WashingToneLocian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...The School Board
> > has a right to redistrict. End of story.
>
> I agree but read this from The Department of
> Justice website:
> http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/edo/filecomp.htm
>
> "1. The EEOA prohibits the following practices at
> the elementary and secondary school levels.
>
> ...d. Assignment to other than the school closest
> to residence within the school district of
> residence which results in greater segregation on
> the basis of race, color, sex, or national
> origin."
Read "greater segregation." The move would de-segregate the schools, not segregate them. If anything, you are making the School Board's argument for it.
-------------------------------------------------------
> WashingToneLocian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...The School Board
> > has a right to redistrict. End of story.
>
> I agree but read this from The Department of
> Justice website:
> http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/edo/filecomp.htm
>
> "1. The EEOA prohibits the following practices at
> the elementary and secondary school levels.
>
> ...d. Assignment to other than the school closest
> to residence within the school district of
> residence which results in greater segregation on
> the basis of race, color, sex, or national
> origin."
Read "greater segregation." The move would de-segregate the schools, not segregate them. If anything, you are making the School Board's argument for it.