I was watching Worlds Most Dangerous Gangs on the History Channel last night and they were showing a part about a girl named Paz who gave up MS-13 in Alexandria. They also showed some shot of MS-13 "courting"(beating up) a new gang member in a Fairfax Park.

Here's the park scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nnM_-5tfnc

This talks about MS-13 killing Paz out in the Shenandoah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgrbj7sFwKI



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2007 08:09AM by Lurker..

Man, I wish I knew that was on.

I remember that Paz story from a few years back. This not-so-bright individual ratted out her fellow gang members, testified against them, went into hiding, and then suddenly decided to go hang out with them again. Now I'm all against gang violence, but this poor woman acted very stupidly and got what was coming to her... what was she expecting, a "welcome back" party??

i watched the same thing last night. the whole thing was pretty brutal. and your right after Paz went back for the SECOND time, she almost had it coming...

Re: MS-13(Illegals) gang in Fairfax\History Channel Last Night
Posted by: TheMeeper (IP Logged)
Date: November 13, 2007 08:25AM


Man, I wish I knew that was on.

I remember that Paz story from a few years back. This not-so-bright individual ratted out her fellow gang members, testified against them, went into hiding, and then suddenly decided to go hang out with them again. Now I'm all against gang violence, but this poor woman acted very stupidly and got what was coming to her... what was she expecting, a "welcome back" party??

TheMeeper

What the hell is wrong with you? You act like these criminals have some kind of right to attack people. It's pussies like you "Now I'm all against gang violence" who won't or can't stand up to these punks. Evidently you know the gang rules
pretty well... you wimp!

It's getting out of control in the Falls Church area too. There is major activity at the apartments behind Peking Duck on Rt. 7, near the Best Buy and also over off Rt. 50 at the apartments by the Home Depot. I often can hear helicopters circling like shark a few times /week and have left my place on occasion to see squads of cop cars arresting guys near my local 7-11. Wish they could clean that crap up.

My point is that she acted recklessly, to wit: she testified against a gang and then tried to befriend them afterwards. Any reasonable person should know the consequences.

It's pussies like you "Now I'm all against gang violence" who won't or can't stand up to these punks

Yeah like it's my responsibility to stand up against the gangs, lol. That's the fuckin cop's job, not mine.

We have one thing in our favor to stop this gang, our intelligence. Let's be honest, this and all gangs have a combined IQ of about 20. No intelligent individual over the age of 13 would consider joining a gang. Therefore, it's time we start holding parents responsible to some degree.
I've found that parents make NO effort to explain to kids that the gangsta rap on MTV is not real and the places they supposedly live on "Cribs" is not true. If your 12 yo kid comes home with an MS-13 tattoo, you have failed as a parent and the kid should be taken away from you immediately.
Blaming the situation on bad economics does not hold water when we're talking about Northern Va.and some of the other areas mentioned in the video. The power of gangs is the collective nature of it. Therefore, separate each member arrested, lay a massive guilt trip on them and finally attempt to educate them properly in something useful. If all that doesn't work, shoot them in the head.

Numbers Wrote:
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Therefore, it's time we
start holding parents responsible to some degree.
>
> I've found that parents make NO effort to
> explain to kids that the gangsta rap on MTV is not
> real and the places they supposedly live on
> "Cribs" is not true. If your 12 yo kid comes home
> with an MS-13 tattoo, you have failed as a parent
> and the kid should be taken away from you
> immediately.

Wow, isn't that a rosey look on life. There are no white picket fences in their neighborHOOD.

Most of these gang kids come from broken homes, the parents are on crack or are in jail. The kids join the gangs because it gives them the only feeling of family they've ever found and some sense of structure.

They suck bigtime

FUCK EM' but dont be fooled in saying they are all stupid, that just shows how dumb u are

Lurker wrote:
"There are no white picket fences in their neighborHOOD."

Yeah, it must be tough living on the mean streets of Fairfax.

"Most of these gang kids come from broken homes, the parents are on crack or are in jail. The kids join the gangs because it gives them the only feeling of family they've ever found and some sense of structure."

Great! A family that beats the shit out of them to get in, convinces then to assault and murder others and kills you when you decide to leave the nest. Structure? Explain.

Your excuses for their abysmal behavior are as old as time itself. If everyone that grew up in a rotten family and economically challenged neighborhood turned out this way, you'd be in a heap of shit right now. There are several alternatives to gangs in any situation.
My argument about parents being a major part of the problem is reenforced by your claim that THEIR parents might be just as bad. Why? Because of THEIR parents lack of parenting skills and for having kids in the first place.

mierda seca 1 wrote:
"FUCK EM' but dont be fooled in saying they are all stupid, that just shows how dumb u are"

Really? What have they done that shows any example of intelligence?

ud be surprised of the neigborhoods ud find in fairfax.

They started the biggest gang in this country, just cause there up to no good doesnt mean ur stupid.. im pretty sure they got people with brains..
If u disagree, tell me how many of them u know and converse with?

Kid Wrote:
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> i watched the same thing last night. the whole
> thing was pretty brutal. and your right after Paz
> went back for the SECOND time, she almost had it
> coming...


The way gangs work is they give isolated and lonely people the "family" they don't have at home. Imagine one day you were told to never speak to your parents or siblings again. It would be very difficult. I'm sure authorities warned her what would happen (hence the witness protection thing). She was very naive and now she is very dead.

Lurker. Wrote:
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>
> Here's the park scene:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nnM_-5tfnc
>
>
Actually, that park beating looks kind of like a soccer game.

Wonder why nobody called the cops. Or were there cops there and they said, "Look at all those fucking gang-bangers! Look at what they are doing to that one guy! Get me the fuck outta here!!!"

Then they drove to Fair Oaks and parked on the sidewalk.

>mierda seca 13 wrote:
>"I'm pretty sure they got people with brains..
>If u disagree, tell me how many of them u know and converse with?"

Why would I want to know and converse with MS-13 members?
I did call an ambulance for one that got hit by a car right in front of me. He was running from someone and tried to run across Main St. at night and got hammered by a car doing about 35mph. He was seriously fucked up and could not move his legs. The first thing I noticed on this 14-15yo kid were his MS-13 tattoos. But don't worry mierda seca 13, I'm sure his MS_13 "family" members will take care of him.

Then they drove to Fair Oaks and parked on the sidewalk.

srsly LOL

Fairfax MF---er Wrote:
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> Kid Wrote:
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I'm sure authorities warned her
> what would happen (hence the witness protection
> thing). She was very naive and now she is very
> dead.

After she ratted out MS-13 the FBI gave her money and told her not to talk to the gang. She decided that she could still party with them on the FBI money, she told the MS-13 gang members it was her fathers money. MS-13 members got suspucious and put out a hit (greenlight) on her.

The FBI gang squad played her a tape and showed her that she had been greenlighted(a hit out on her.) She then moved into the witness protection agency and move to some Northern State. After a while she moved back here again on her own to be back with her MS-13 homies and that's when she got whacked by her MS-13 friends.

Numbers Wrote:
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> >mierda seca 13 wrote:
> >"I'm pretty sure they got people with brains..
> >If u disagree, tell me how many of them u know
> and converse with?"
>
> Why would I want to know and converse with MS-13
> members?
> I did call an ambulance for one that got hit by a
> car right in front of me. He was running from
> someone and tried to run across Main St. at night
> and got hammered by a car doing about 35mph. He
> was seriously fucked up and could not move his
> legs. The first thing I noticed on this 14-15yo
> kid were his MS-13 tattoos. But don't worry mierda
> seca 13, I'm sure his MS_13 "family" members will
> take care of him.



WTF U TALKIN ABOUT?? hope he died i dont give a fuck bout them, just telling u not to be ignorant and say there is no one intelegent involved with them.

Once identified as a gang MEMBER(see DICK in thesaurus) they should immediately given a choice:be deported to the Clinton's residence in New York and made to suck on HRH's feet and refusing that; shot in the head -then deported to Beanerville, El Salvador.
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According to www.viennacitizensgroup.com, at some point in her life, Brenda Paz lived in the Vienna Park Apartments. Two of the gangbangers who participated in her brutal murder lived there as well. One (Cisneros) is serving life in jail for it, one fled back to El Salvador before he could be prosecuted.

The World According To ViennaCitizensGroup. Dot com!

i dont know about yall, but where i grew up in fairfax shit like that happens often..Plus theres been many incounters with MS, theyr just ALOT pussies

She was tossed in the Shenandoah river out near Woodstock. But Jerry Connelly says we do not have a crime problem.
Now that he is back in office we can expect a nice new welcome mat to be rolled out for them.

Pedro says Wrote:
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> She was tossed in the Shenandoah river out near
> Woodstock. But Jerry Connelly says we do not have
> a crime problem.
> Now that he is back in office we can expect a nice
> new welcome mat to be rolled out for them.

The show said she was stabbed repeated times by her homeboys and then she said "just leave me here to die."

These poor kids have no one. They don't have parents who are around and involved. They're looking for a place to belong, a family. Of course they make horrible choices, they are kids, kids with no guidance. How sad.

(G)erry Connelly says we do not have a crime problem.
Now that he is back in office we can expect a nice new welcome mat to be rolled out for them.

Saldremos de la luz sobre usted

If it was up to Connelly he would have a big sign in spanish at the fairfax county line, welcome home amigos and future democrats. Mi casa su casa

dumb ass Wrote:
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> If it was up to Connelly he would have a big sign
> in spanish at the fairfax county line, welcome
> home amigos and future democrats. Mi casa su casa

Take back your neighborhood in Fairfax... Join-the-cause:

www.helpsavefairfax.com or www.viennacitizensgroup.com

Public Caning should be used for these thugs.