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Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
the kookster
()
Date: April 26, 2013 10:00AM
3/21/2013
This week Virginians got their best look so far into the extreme agenda that Ken Cuccinelli would bring to the Governor's mansion and the extensive lengths to which his campaign is going to try and keep that agenda out of public view until he is elected.
Remarks Cuccinelli made last year comparing his career-long effort to restrict women's health care rights to the historic fight to abolish slavery drew statewide newspaper and television coverage and showed Virginia voters how far outside the mainstream Cuccinelli really is.
Also this week a Washington Post editorial revealed how Cuccinelli's campaign is hoping to paper over Cuccinelli's radical agenda, not by shifting his policy positions but by seeking to hide them from the public. As the Post reported, Cuccinelli's response to a growing bipartisan consensus over immigration reform was to simply remove the "Immigration Issues" page from his website, a page which used to feature stances on immigration that are far more extreme than even the Republican mainstream today.
As the coverage roundup below demonstrates, Cuccinelli's efforts to hide his true policy agenda are clearly a reaction to the widespread negative attention his extreme views receive when Virginians are given the opportunity to examine them. The Cuccinelli campaign knows its greatest liability is the candidate's extreme agenda, so they're doing their best to distract Virginians from what he would do if he's elected in November.
Associated Press: Cuccinelli compares slavery abolition to anti-abortion movement
Nearly eight months before election day the Democratic Party of Virginia released video from last June that shows Cuccinelli addressing a small gathering of religious conservatives meeting in Williamsburg. It continues the Democrats' strategy of portraying the socially conservative attorney general as too extreme for a swing state."Over time, the truth demonstrates its own rightness, and its own righteousness. Our experience as a country has demonstrated that on one issue after another. Start right at the beginning - slavery. Today, abortion," Cuccinelli said in remarks recorded by a Democratic Party tracker at a Family Foundation event on June 14, 2012.
Richmond Times-Dispatch: 2012 Cuccinelli video prompts dust-up over abortion
Washington Post: Va. Democrats put focus on Cuccinelli's antiabortion views
WCYB: Cuccinelli Slammed for Slavery Statements
WJLA: Cuccinelli links fights against slavery, abortion
WDBJ: Cuccinelli compares fight against abortion to fight against slavery
WRIC: Controversy Brewing Over Cuccinelli Slavery Comments
WRIC: Cuccinelli compares fight against slavery to fight against abortion
NewsChannel8: Cuccinelli links fights against slavery, abortion
Huffington Post: Ken Cuccinelli, Virginia Attorney General, Compares Outlawing Abortion To Abolishing Slavery
Mother Jones: Virginia Gov. Candidate Ken Cuccinelli: Outlawing Slavery and Outlawing Abortion Are Part of the Same Fight
Washington Post: Ken Cuccinelli's Airbrushed Policies
"As recently as November, Mr. Cuccinelli's campaign Web site boasted of his uncompromising positions on illegal immigration, including opposing tuition subsidies for undocumented students (even if they grew up in Virginia), firing state contractors who employ illegal immigrants and stepping up deportations and employment verification.
"But clicking Tuesday on a link to the campaign site's immigration policy page brought up the following: "This is somewhat embarrassing, isn't it? It seems we can't find what you're looking for."
"More likely, Mr. Cuccinelli's views on the issue, suddenly out of sync with the GOP's swiftly shifting stance, are no longer politically suitable."
MSNBC: Cuccinelli's website gets a touch up
Talking Points Memo: Ken Cuccinelli Takes Down His 'Immigration' Issues Page
http://www.vademocrats.org/news/press/week-cuccinellis-extreme-agenda-revealed-despite-campaigns-effort-mask-it
Attachments:
This week Virginians got their best look so far into the extreme agenda that Ken Cuccinelli would bring to the Governor's mansion and the extensive lengths to which his campaign is going to try and keep that agenda out of public view until he is elected.
Remarks Cuccinelli made last year comparing his career-long effort to restrict women's health care rights to the historic fight to abolish slavery drew statewide newspaper and television coverage and showed Virginia voters how far outside the mainstream Cuccinelli really is.
Also this week a Washington Post editorial revealed how Cuccinelli's campaign is hoping to paper over Cuccinelli's radical agenda, not by shifting his policy positions but by seeking to hide them from the public. As the Post reported, Cuccinelli's response to a growing bipartisan consensus over immigration reform was to simply remove the "Immigration Issues" page from his website, a page which used to feature stances on immigration that are far more extreme than even the Republican mainstream today.
As the coverage roundup below demonstrates, Cuccinelli's efforts to hide his true policy agenda are clearly a reaction to the widespread negative attention his extreme views receive when Virginians are given the opportunity to examine them. The Cuccinelli campaign knows its greatest liability is the candidate's extreme agenda, so they're doing their best to distract Virginians from what he would do if he's elected in November.
Associated Press: Cuccinelli compares slavery abolition to anti-abortion movement
Nearly eight months before election day the Democratic Party of Virginia released video from last June that shows Cuccinelli addressing a small gathering of religious conservatives meeting in Williamsburg. It continues the Democrats' strategy of portraying the socially conservative attorney general as too extreme for a swing state."Over time, the truth demonstrates its own rightness, and its own righteousness. Our experience as a country has demonstrated that on one issue after another. Start right at the beginning - slavery. Today, abortion," Cuccinelli said in remarks recorded by a Democratic Party tracker at a Family Foundation event on June 14, 2012.
Richmond Times-Dispatch: 2012 Cuccinelli video prompts dust-up over abortion
Washington Post: Va. Democrats put focus on Cuccinelli's antiabortion views
WCYB: Cuccinelli Slammed for Slavery Statements
WJLA: Cuccinelli links fights against slavery, abortion
WDBJ: Cuccinelli compares fight against abortion to fight against slavery
WRIC: Controversy Brewing Over Cuccinelli Slavery Comments
WRIC: Cuccinelli compares fight against slavery to fight against abortion
NewsChannel8: Cuccinelli links fights against slavery, abortion
Huffington Post: Ken Cuccinelli, Virginia Attorney General, Compares Outlawing Abortion To Abolishing Slavery
Mother Jones: Virginia Gov. Candidate Ken Cuccinelli: Outlawing Slavery and Outlawing Abortion Are Part of the Same Fight
Washington Post: Ken Cuccinelli's Airbrushed Policies
"As recently as November, Mr. Cuccinelli's campaign Web site boasted of his uncompromising positions on illegal immigration, including opposing tuition subsidies for undocumented students (even if they grew up in Virginia), firing state contractors who employ illegal immigrants and stepping up deportations and employment verification.
"But clicking Tuesday on a link to the campaign site's immigration policy page brought up the following: "This is somewhat embarrassing, isn't it? It seems we can't find what you're looking for."
"More likely, Mr. Cuccinelli's views on the issue, suddenly out of sync with the GOP's swiftly shifting stance, are no longer politically suitable."
MSNBC: Cuccinelli's website gets a touch up
Talking Points Memo: Ken Cuccinelli Takes Down His 'Immigration' Issues Page
http://www.vademocrats.org/news/press/week-cuccinellis-extreme-agenda-revealed-despite-campaigns-effort-mask-it
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Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Not Fooled By Your BS
()
Date: April 26, 2013 10:05AM
So what???, with Kooch you get what you see, not so with MCAWFULL
Who the hell needs immigration with no limits
What do you not understand that killing babies is MURDER
Theres plenty of people looking to ADOPT BABIES
Who the hell needs immigration with no limits
What do you not understand that killing babies is MURDER
Theres plenty of people looking to ADOPT BABIES
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
RydellRoad
()
Date: April 26, 2013 10:17AM
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
the kookster
()
Date: April 26, 2013 10:24AM
Not Fooled By Your BS Wrote:
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> With the koookster you get what you see
Which IS awfull.
> Who the hell needs immigration with no limits
Who wants immigration with no limits?
> What do you not understand that killing babies is
> MURDER
>
> Theres plenty of people looking to ADOPT BABIES
Speaking of BS.
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> With the koookster you get what you see
Which IS awfull.
> Who the hell needs immigration with no limits
Who wants immigration with no limits?
> What do you not understand that killing babies is
> MURDER
>
> Theres plenty of people looking to ADOPT BABIES
Speaking of BS.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
good speller
()
Date: April 26, 2013 10:28AM
the kookster Wrote:
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> Not Fooled By Your BS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > With the koookster you get what you see
>
> Which IS awfull.
"awfull" LOL. OP is an idiot.
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> Not Fooled By Your BS Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > With the koookster you get what you see
>
> Which IS awfull.
"awfull" LOL. OP is an idiot.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Exactly
()
Date: April 26, 2013 10:41AM
Here we go again, when the liberals have nothing, they resort to fear, "extreme agenda", what a load of crap. But hey, it got Obamma elected....twice.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 102
()
Date: April 26, 2013 01:32PM
the kookster Wrote:
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> > What do you not understand that killing babies
> is
> > MURDER
> >
> > Theres plenty of people looking to ADOPT BABIES
>
> Speaking of BS.
Put your money where your mouth is. If abortion is so great you should abort yourself. No more do as I say not as I do. Why is life appropriate for you but you want millions of other babies murdered?
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> > What do you not understand that killing babies
> is
> > MURDER
> >
> > Theres plenty of people looking to ADOPT BABIES
>
> Speaking of BS.
Put your money where your mouth is. If abortion is so great you should abort yourself. No more do as I say not as I do. Why is life appropriate for you but you want millions of other babies murdered?
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Reality: Conservative's Enemy
()
Date: April 26, 2013 01:50PM
Exactly Wrote:
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> Here we go again, when the liberals have nothing,
> they resort to fear, "extreme agenda", what a load
> of crap.
Oh, you mean like what conservitards did last election? It's called politics and in case you weren't aware, both parties do it. The difference is we don't go around pretending like the other guys are the only ones who do it.
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> Here we go again, when the liberals have nothing,
> they resort to fear, "extreme agenda", what a load
> of crap.
Oh, you mean like what conservitards did last election? It's called politics and in case you weren't aware, both parties do it. The difference is we don't go around pretending like the other guys are the only ones who do it.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Voice O' Reason
()
Date: April 26, 2013 01:54PM
Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
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> Put your money where your mouth is. If abortion
> is so great you should abort yourself. No more do
> as I say not as I do. Why is life appropriate for
> you but you want millions of other babies
> murdered?
Abortion is never an easy choice. But it's not yours to make. It should be the mother and father's, not some jackass behind a keyboard's.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Put your money where your mouth is. If abortion
> is so great you should abort yourself. No more do
> as I say not as I do. Why is life appropriate for
> you but you want millions of other babies
> murdered?
Abortion is never an easy choice. But it's not yours to make. It should be the mother and father's, not some jackass behind a keyboard's.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Tree barker
()
Date: April 26, 2013 02:08PM
Voice O' Reason Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Put your money where your mouth is. If
> abortion
> > is so great you should abort yourself. No more
> do
> > as I say not as I do. Why is life appropriate
> for
> > you but you want millions of other babies
> > murdered?
>
> Abortion is never an easy choice. But it's not
> yours to make. It should be the mother and
> father's, not some jackass behind a keyboard's.
If someone believes that it is murder, your entire premise falls apart. For pro-life folks, this isn't about telling a women what to do. It's about stopping someone from killing an innocent baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a baby or not but your grossly misunderstand the concerns of one side. Thus, your post is grossly skewed and degenerates into the typical name calling.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Put your money where your mouth is. If
> abortion
> > is so great you should abort yourself. No more
> do
> > as I say not as I do. Why is life appropriate
> for
> > you but you want millions of other babies
> > murdered?
>
> Abortion is never an easy choice. But it's not
> yours to make. It should be the mother and
> father's, not some jackass behind a keyboard's.
If someone believes that it is murder, your entire premise falls apart. For pro-life folks, this isn't about telling a women what to do. It's about stopping someone from killing an innocent baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a baby or not but your grossly misunderstand the concerns of one side. Thus, your post is grossly skewed and degenerates into the typical name calling.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Voice O' Reason
()
Date: April 26, 2013 02:20PM
Tree barker Wrote:
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> If someone believes that it is murder, your entire
> premise falls apart. For pro-life folks, this
> isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> about stopping someone from killing an innocent
> baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a baby
> or not but your grossly misunderstand the concerns
> of one side. Thus, your post is grossly skewed
> and degenerates into the typical name calling.
Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's murder or not. While you may hold an opinion that it is murder, in the end it's social issue that should be left up to the individual.
And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
-------------------------------------------------------
> If someone believes that it is murder, your entire
> premise falls apart. For pro-life folks, this
> isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> about stopping someone from killing an innocent
> baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a baby
> or not but your grossly misunderstand the concerns
> of one side. Thus, your post is grossly skewed
> and degenerates into the typical name calling.
Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's murder or not. While you may hold an opinion that it is murder, in the end it's social issue that should be left up to the individual.
And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Sorry, U Fail
()
Date: April 26, 2013 02:27PM
Voice O' Reason Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tree barker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> entire
> > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks, this
> > isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> > about stopping someone from killing an innocent
> > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a
> baby
> > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> concerns
> > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly skewed
> > and degenerates into the typical name calling.
>
> Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's
> murder or not. While you may hold an
> opinion that it is murder, in the end it's social
> issue that should be left up to the individual.
>
> And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
Oh really? So an individual can decide whether another adult lives or dies at their hand? I don't think so. Society makes such decisions on an aggregate level as established in laws. Such things typically are not left to individual decision.
Sorry, I fall more to the pro-choice side myself, but your reasoning just doesn't work. You're doing exactly the same thing that you accuse the other guy of here, just from YOUR opposite side.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tree barker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> entire
> > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks, this
> > isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> > about stopping someone from killing an innocent
> > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a
> baby
> > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> concerns
> > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly skewed
> > and degenerates into the typical name calling.
>
> Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's
> murder or not. While you may hold an
> opinion that it is murder, in the end it's social
> issue that should be left up to the individual.
>
> And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
Oh really? So an individual can decide whether another adult lives or dies at their hand? I don't think so. Society makes such decisions on an aggregate level as established in laws. Such things typically are not left to individual decision.
Sorry, I fall more to the pro-choice side myself, but your reasoning just doesn't work. You're doing exactly the same thing that you accuse the other guy of here, just from YOUR opposite side.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Shut up moron
()
Date: April 26, 2013 02:50PM
Sorry, U Fail Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tree barker Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> > entire
> > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> this
> > > isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> > > about stopping someone from killing an
> innocent
> > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a
> > baby
> > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > concerns
> > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> skewed
> > > and degenerates into the typical name
> calling.
> >
> > Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's
> > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> social
> > issue that should be left up to the individual.
> >
> > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
>
>
> Oh really? So an individual can decide whether
> another adult lives or dies at their hand? I
> don't think so. Society makes such decisions on
> an aggregate level as established in laws. Such
> things typically are not left to individual
> decision.
>
> Sorry, I fall more to the pro-choice side myself,
> but your reasoning just doesn't work. You're
> doing exactly the same thing that you accuse the
> other guy of here, just from YOUR opposite side.
What you dont understand is that some Hindus believe a cow is a living soul that shouldn't be killed. Yet you eat burgers.
Just because you have religious beliefs doesnt mean anything, show me where it says that in our laws. Scientific consensus and general sentiment in society is that a baby does not exist at conception, it is born at birth.
Deal with it, or realize that your eating a hamburger is murder to other people's religions and stop doing that too moron.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tree barker Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> > entire
> > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> this
> > > isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> > > about stopping someone from killing an
> innocent
> > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a
> > baby
> > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > concerns
> > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> skewed
> > > and degenerates into the typical name
> calling.
> >
> > Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's
> > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> social
> > issue that should be left up to the individual.
> >
> > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
>
>
> Oh really? So an individual can decide whether
> another adult lives or dies at their hand? I
> don't think so. Society makes such decisions on
> an aggregate level as established in laws. Such
> things typically are not left to individual
> decision.
>
> Sorry, I fall more to the pro-choice side myself,
> but your reasoning just doesn't work. You're
> doing exactly the same thing that you accuse the
> other guy of here, just from YOUR opposite side.
What you dont understand is that some Hindus believe a cow is a living soul that shouldn't be killed. Yet you eat burgers.
Just because you have religious beliefs doesnt mean anything, show me where it says that in our laws. Scientific consensus and general sentiment in society is that a baby does not exist at conception, it is born at birth.
Deal with it, or realize that your eating a hamburger is murder to other people's religions and stop doing that too moron.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: April 26, 2013 02:56PM
Cockblocker Cuccinelli at it again? If that guy becomes our governor we will be the laughing stock of the country.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
my 2 cents
()
Date: April 26, 2013 02:59PM
Shut up moron Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry, U Fail Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Tree barker Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> > > entire
> > > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> > this
> > > > isn't about telling a women what to do.
> It's
> > > > about stopping someone from killing an
> > innocent
> > > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is
> a
> > > baby
> > > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > > concerns
> > > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> > skewed
> > > > and degenerates into the typical name
> > calling.
> > >
> > > Again, it's not for you to decide whether
> it's
> > > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> > social
> > > issue that should be left up to the
> individual.
> > >
> > > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
> >
> >
> > Oh really? So an individual can decide whether
> > another adult lives or dies at their hand? I
> > don't think so. Society makes such decisions
> on
> > an aggregate level as established in laws.
> Such
> > things typically are not left to individual
> > decision.
> >
> > Sorry, I fall more to the pro-choice side
> myself,
> > but your reasoning just doesn't work. You're
> > doing exactly the same thing that you accuse
> the
> > other guy of here, just from YOUR opposite
> side.
>
>
> What you dont understand is that some Hindus
> believe a cow is a living soul that shouldn't be
> killed. Yet you eat burgers.
>
> Just because you have religious beliefs doesnt
> mean anything, show me where it says that in our
> laws. Scientific consensus and general sentiment
> in society is that a baby does not exist at
> conception, it is born at birth.
>
> Deal with it, or realize that your eating a
> hamburger is murder to other people's religions
> and stop doing that too moron.
I am agnostic and pro-life. Many religious people are pro-choice. It isn't really about offending religion or abiding by religious beliefs. It is about when someone thinks the sanctity of life exists. It is about human dignity and ethics. People just have different views of those things.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry, U Fail Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Tree barker Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> > > entire
> > > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> > this
> > > > isn't about telling a women what to do.
> It's
> > > > about stopping someone from killing an
> > innocent
> > > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is
> a
> > > baby
> > > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > > concerns
> > > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> > skewed
> > > > and degenerates into the typical name
> > calling.
> > >
> > > Again, it's not for you to decide whether
> it's
> > > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> > social
> > > issue that should be left up to the
> individual.
> > >
> > > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
> >
> >
> > Oh really? So an individual can decide whether
> > another adult lives or dies at their hand? I
> > don't think so. Society makes such decisions
> on
> > an aggregate level as established in laws.
> Such
> > things typically are not left to individual
> > decision.
> >
> > Sorry, I fall more to the pro-choice side
> myself,
> > but your reasoning just doesn't work. You're
> > doing exactly the same thing that you accuse
> the
> > other guy of here, just from YOUR opposite
> side.
>
>
> What you dont understand is that some Hindus
> believe a cow is a living soul that shouldn't be
> killed. Yet you eat burgers.
>
> Just because you have religious beliefs doesnt
> mean anything, show me where it says that in our
> laws. Scientific consensus and general sentiment
> in society is that a baby does not exist at
> conception, it is born at birth.
>
> Deal with it, or realize that your eating a
> hamburger is murder to other people's religions
> and stop doing that too moron.
I am agnostic and pro-life. Many religious people are pro-choice. It isn't really about offending religion or abiding by religious beliefs. It is about when someone thinks the sanctity of life exists. It is about human dignity and ethics. People just have different views of those things.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
deal with it
()
Date: April 26, 2013 03:04PM
my 2 cents Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shut up moron Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sorry, U Fail Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Tree barker Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > If someone believes that it is murder,
> your
> > > > entire
> > > > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> > > this
> > > > > isn't about telling a women what to do.
> > It's
> > > > > about stopping someone from killing an
> > > innocent
> > > > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it
> is
> > a
> > > > baby
> > > > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > > > concerns
> > > > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> > > skewed
> > > > > and degenerates into the typical name
> > > calling.
> > > >
> > > > Again, it's not for you to decide whether
> > it's
> > > > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > > > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> > > social
> > > > issue that should be left up to the
> > individual.
> > > >
> > > > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh really? So an individual can decide
> whether
> > > another adult lives or dies at their hand? I
> > > don't think so. Society makes such decisions
> > on
> > > an aggregate level as established in laws.
> > Such
> > > things typically are not left to individual
> > > decision.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I fall more to the pro-choice side
> > myself,
> > > but your reasoning just doesn't work. You're
> > > doing exactly the same thing that you accuse
> > the
> > > other guy of here, just from YOUR opposite
> > side.
> >
> >
> > What you dont understand is that some Hindus
> > believe a cow is a living soul that shouldn't
> be
> > killed. Yet you eat burgers.
> >
> > Just because you have religious beliefs doesnt
> > mean anything, show me where it says that in
> our
> > laws. Scientific consensus and general
> sentiment
> > in society is that a baby does not exist at
> > conception, it is born at birth.
> >
> > Deal with it, or realize that your eating a
> > hamburger is murder to other people's religions
> > and stop doing that too moron.
>
>
> I am agnostic and pro-life. Many religious people
> are pro-choice. It isn't really about offending
> religion or abiding by religious beliefs. It is
> about when someone thinks the sanctity of life
> exists. It is about human dignity and ethics.
> People just have different views of those things.
Right, except when that life is in another country right, or another human being who is already born dying in a gutter, or anything like that.
GOP logic, always astounding. If perhaps, like some religious people, you were completely against all dying people then perhaps I might take you seriously. Till then you are a hypocrit. Go save the homeless guy in the street with as much passion as you have about fetuses with a central nervous system and maybe then you can throw some stones in glass houses.
Either way, consensus and science is against you champ. No different in emotional state and awareness of a 10 week old fetus and a cow. Deal with it.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Shut up moron Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sorry, U Fail Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Tree barker Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > If someone believes that it is murder,
> your
> > > > entire
> > > > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> > > this
> > > > > isn't about telling a women what to do.
> > It's
> > > > > about stopping someone from killing an
> > > innocent
> > > > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it
> is
> > a
> > > > baby
> > > > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > > > concerns
> > > > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> > > skewed
> > > > > and degenerates into the typical name
> > > calling.
> > > >
> > > > Again, it's not for you to decide whether
> > it's
> > > > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > > > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> > > social
> > > > issue that should be left up to the
> > individual.
> > > >
> > > > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh really? So an individual can decide
> whether
> > > another adult lives or dies at their hand? I
> > > don't think so. Society makes such decisions
> > on
> > > an aggregate level as established in laws.
> > Such
> > > things typically are not left to individual
> > > decision.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I fall more to the pro-choice side
> > myself,
> > > but your reasoning just doesn't work. You're
> > > doing exactly the same thing that you accuse
> > the
> > > other guy of here, just from YOUR opposite
> > side.
> >
> >
> > What you dont understand is that some Hindus
> > believe a cow is a living soul that shouldn't
> be
> > killed. Yet you eat burgers.
> >
> > Just because you have religious beliefs doesnt
> > mean anything, show me where it says that in
> our
> > laws. Scientific consensus and general
> sentiment
> > in society is that a baby does not exist at
> > conception, it is born at birth.
> >
> > Deal with it, or realize that your eating a
> > hamburger is murder to other people's religions
> > and stop doing that too moron.
>
>
> I am agnostic and pro-life. Many religious people
> are pro-choice. It isn't really about offending
> religion or abiding by religious beliefs. It is
> about when someone thinks the sanctity of life
> exists. It is about human dignity and ethics.
> People just have different views of those things.
Right, except when that life is in another country right, or another human being who is already born dying in a gutter, or anything like that.
GOP logic, always astounding. If perhaps, like some religious people, you were completely against all dying people then perhaps I might take you seriously. Till then you are a hypocrit. Go save the homeless guy in the street with as much passion as you have about fetuses with a central nervous system and maybe then you can throw some stones in glass houses.
Either way, consensus and science is against you champ. No different in emotional state and awareness of a 10 week old fetus and a cow. Deal with it.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
InNov
()
Date: April 26, 2013 03:24PM
I don't give a shit what any of you think. I'm voting for Cuccinelli
because of his strong support for the 2nd Amendment. I could care less
about his stand on abortion.
because of his strong support for the 2nd Amendment. I could care less
about his stand on abortion.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Tree barker
()
Date: April 26, 2013 03:31PM
Voice O' Reason Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tree barker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> entire
> > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks, this
> > isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> > about stopping someone from killing an innocent
> > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a
> baby
> > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> concerns
> > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly skewed
> > and degenerates into the typical name calling.
>
> Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's
> murder or not. While you may hold an
> opinion that it is murder, in the end it's social
> issue that should be left up to the individual.
>
> And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
It was the same reasoning as yours that proponents of slavery defended their postition. It was your reasoning that allowed the German populace to accept that Jews, Gypsies and the mentally retarded were sub-human and therefore, should be killed by the millions.
When does life begin? Is aborting a viable 8½ month old "fetus" murder? Is aborting a baby right before it exits the birth canal after 9 months murder?
And yeah, I do get to decide whether or not I believe that abortion is murder and I get to judge the act and the actors accordingly. Your argument is weak.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tree barker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> entire
> > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks, this
> > isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> > about stopping someone from killing an innocent
> > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a
> baby
> > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> concerns
> > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly skewed
> > and degenerates into the typical name calling.
>
> Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's
> murder or not. While you may hold an
> opinion that it is murder, in the end it's social
> issue that should be left up to the individual.
>
> And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
It was the same reasoning as yours that proponents of slavery defended their postition. It was your reasoning that allowed the German populace to accept that Jews, Gypsies and the mentally retarded were sub-human and therefore, should be killed by the millions.
When does life begin? Is aborting a viable 8½ month old "fetus" murder? Is aborting a baby right before it exits the birth canal after 9 months murder?
And yeah, I do get to decide whether or not I believe that abortion is murder and I get to judge the act and the actors accordingly. Your argument is weak.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
good luck dummy
()
Date: April 26, 2013 03:34PM
Tree barker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tree barker Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> > entire
> > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> this
> > > isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> > > about stopping someone from killing an
> innocent
> > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a
> > baby
> > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > concerns
> > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> skewed
> > > and degenerates into the typical name
> calling.
> >
> > Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's
> > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> social
> > issue that should be left up to the individual.
> >
> > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
>
>
> It was the same reasoning as yours that proponents
> of slavery defended their postition. It was your
> reasoning that allowed the German populace to
> accept that Jews, Gypsies and the mentally
> retarded were sub-human and therefore, should be
> killed by the millions.
>
> When does life begin? Is aborting a viable 8½
> month old "fetus" murder? Is aborting a baby
> right before it exits the birth canal after 9
> months murder?
>
> And yeah, I do get to decide whether or not I
> believe that abortion is murder and I get to judge
> the act and the actors accordingly. Your argument
> is weak.
Yep, you can judge as you want. But its the law that they can, and obfuscating that law through zoning regulation just shows the hypocrisy in your argument dummy
BTW, way to equate abortion to genocide... funny... I sometimes wonder what side todays extremely religious, southern affiliated, white and xenophobic right wing would fall in those arguments hahaha
-------------------------------------------------------
> Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tree barker Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> > entire
> > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> this
> > > isn't about telling a women what to do. It's
> > > about stopping someone from killing an
> innocent
> > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is a
> > baby
> > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > concerns
> > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> skewed
> > > and degenerates into the typical name
> calling.
> >
> > Again, it's not for you to decide whether it's
> > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> social
> > issue that should be left up to the individual.
> >
> > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
>
>
> It was the same reasoning as yours that proponents
> of slavery defended their postition. It was your
> reasoning that allowed the German populace to
> accept that Jews, Gypsies and the mentally
> retarded were sub-human and therefore, should be
> killed by the millions.
>
> When does life begin? Is aborting a viable 8½
> month old "fetus" murder? Is aborting a baby
> right before it exits the birth canal after 9
> months murder?
>
> And yeah, I do get to decide whether or not I
> believe that abortion is murder and I get to judge
> the act and the actors accordingly. Your argument
> is weak.
Yep, you can judge as you want. But its the law that they can, and obfuscating that law through zoning regulation just shows the hypocrisy in your argument dummy
BTW, way to equate abortion to genocide... funny... I sometimes wonder what side todays extremely religious, southern affiliated, white and xenophobic right wing would fall in those arguments hahaha
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
my 2 cents
()
Date: April 26, 2013 03:54PM
deal with it Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Right, except when that life is in another country
> right, or another human being who is already born
> dying in a gutter, or anything like that.
Presume much?
> GOP logic, always astounding. If perhaps, like
> some religious people, you were completely against
> all dying people then perhaps I might take you
> seriously. Till then you are a hypocrit. Go save
> the homeless guy in the street with as much
> passion as you have about fetuses with a central
> nervous system and maybe then you can throw some
> stones in glass houses.
I tend to donate well over 10% of my income to charitable causes and donate all used clothes to charities around the region. We all need to be more charitable to others. Oh, and I am not affiliated with the GOP. I am an independent voter and always have been.
> Either way, consensus and science is against you
> champ.
Um, not really, but you have been fed that line, so you use it.
> No different in emotional state and
> awareness of a 10 week old fetus and a cow. Deal
> with it.
By that logic, there is very little emotional state and awareness of a 2 day old or a one week old. I suppose you are fine killing it then as well?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Right, except when that life is in another country
> right, or another human being who is already born
> dying in a gutter, or anything like that.
Presume much?
> GOP logic, always astounding. If perhaps, like
> some religious people, you were completely against
> all dying people then perhaps I might take you
> seriously. Till then you are a hypocrit. Go save
> the homeless guy in the street with as much
> passion as you have about fetuses with a central
> nervous system and maybe then you can throw some
> stones in glass houses.
I tend to donate well over 10% of my income to charitable causes and donate all used clothes to charities around the region. We all need to be more charitable to others. Oh, and I am not affiliated with the GOP. I am an independent voter and always have been.
> Either way, consensus and science is against you
> champ.
Um, not really, but you have been fed that line, so you use it.
> No different in emotional state and
> awareness of a 10 week old fetus and a cow. Deal
> with it.
By that logic, there is very little emotional state and awareness of a 2 day old or a one week old. I suppose you are fine killing it then as well?
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Tree barker
()
Date: April 26, 2013 03:55PM
good luck dummy Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tree barker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Tree barker Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> > > entire
> > > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> > this
> > > > isn't about telling a women what to do.
> It's
> > > > about stopping someone from killing an
> > innocent
> > > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is
> a
> > > baby
> > > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > > concerns
> > > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> > skewed
> > > > and degenerates into the typical name
> > calling.
> > >
> > > Again, it's not for you to decide whether
> it's
> > > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> > social
> > > issue that should be left up to the
> individual.
> > >
> > > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
> >
> >
> > It was the same reasoning as yours that
> proponents
> > of slavery defended their postition. It was
> your
> > reasoning that allowed the German populace to
> > accept that Jews, Gypsies and the mentally
> > retarded were sub-human and therefore, should
> be
> > killed by the millions.
> >
> > When does life begin? Is aborting a viable 8½
> > month old "fetus" murder? Is aborting a baby
> > right before it exits the birth canal after 9
> > months murder?
> >
> > And yeah, I do get to decide whether or not I
> > believe that abortion is murder and I get to
> judge
> > the act and the actors accordingly. Your
> argument
> > is weak.
>
> Yep, you can judge as you want. But its the law
> that they can, and obfuscating that law through
> zoning regulation just shows the hypocrisy in your
> argument dummy
>
> BTW, way to equate abortion to genocide...
> funny... I sometimes wonder what side todays
> extremely religious, southern affiliated, white
> and xenophobic right wing would fall in those
> arguments hahaha
Legalizing immorality does not make it moral, only legal. Again, your argument is weak. Making something that is immoral harder to do is not hypocritical. You don't seem to know what hypocrisy means.
"hahaha"? What grade are you in?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Tree barker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Voice O' Reason Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Tree barker Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > If someone believes that it is murder, your
> > > entire
> > > > premise falls apart. For pro-life folks,
> > this
> > > > isn't about telling a women what to do.
> It's
> > > > about stopping someone from killing an
> > innocent
> > > > baby. You can agree or disagree that it is
> a
> > > baby
> > > > or not but your grossly misunderstand the
> > > concerns
> > > > of one side. Thus, your post is grossly
> > skewed
> > > > and degenerates into the typical name
> > calling.
> > >
> > > Again, it's not for you to decide whether
> it's
> > > murder or not. While you may hold an
> > > opinion that it is murder, in the end it's
> > social
> > > issue that should be left up to the
> individual.
> > >
> > > And Liberal Logic 102 is a jackass, so...
> >
> >
> > It was the same reasoning as yours that
> proponents
> > of slavery defended their postition. It was
> your
> > reasoning that allowed the German populace to
> > accept that Jews, Gypsies and the mentally
> > retarded were sub-human and therefore, should
> be
> > killed by the millions.
> >
> > When does life begin? Is aborting a viable 8½
> > month old "fetus" murder? Is aborting a baby
> > right before it exits the birth canal after 9
> > months murder?
> >
> > And yeah, I do get to decide whether or not I
> > believe that abortion is murder and I get to
> judge
> > the act and the actors accordingly. Your
> argument
> > is weak.
>
> Yep, you can judge as you want. But its the law
> that they can, and obfuscating that law through
> zoning regulation just shows the hypocrisy in your
> argument dummy
>
> BTW, way to equate abortion to genocide...
> funny... I sometimes wonder what side todays
> extremely religious, southern affiliated, white
> and xenophobic right wing would fall in those
> arguments hahaha
Legalizing immorality does not make it moral, only legal. Again, your argument is weak. Making something that is immoral harder to do is not hypocritical. You don't seem to know what hypocrisy means.
"hahaha"? What grade are you in?
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Doctor "no"-it-all
()
Date: April 26, 2013 03:58PM
my 2 cents Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> deal with it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right, except when that life is in another
> country
> > right, or another human being who is already
> born
> > dying in a gutter, or anything like that.
>
> Presume much?
>
> > GOP logic, always astounding. If perhaps, like
> > some religious people, you were completely
> against
> > all dying people then perhaps I might take you
> > seriously. Till then you are a hypocrit. Go
> save
> > the homeless guy in the street with as much
> > passion as you have about fetuses with a
> central
> > nervous system and maybe then you can throw
> some
> > stones in glass houses.
>
> I tend to donate well over 10% of my income to
> charitable causes and donate all used clothes to
> charities around the region. We all need to be
> more charitable to others. Oh, and I am not
> affiliated with the GOP. I am an independent
> voter and always have been.
>
> > Either way, consensus and science is against
> you
> > champ.
>
> Um, not really, but you have been fed that line,
> so you use it.
>
> > No different in emotional state and
> > awareness of a 10 week old fetus and a cow.
> Deal
> > with it.
>
> By that logic, there is very little emotional
> state and awareness of a 2 day old or a one week
> old. I suppose you are fine killing it then as
> well?
Well clearly you are a doctor and biologist from your understanding in the difference between the nervous system of a fetus and one of a born child.
Congratulations doctor!
-------------------------------------------------------
> deal with it Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right, except when that life is in another
> country
> > right, or another human being who is already
> born
> > dying in a gutter, or anything like that.
>
> Presume much?
>
> > GOP logic, always astounding. If perhaps, like
> > some religious people, you were completely
> against
> > all dying people then perhaps I might take you
> > seriously. Till then you are a hypocrit. Go
> save
> > the homeless guy in the street with as much
> > passion as you have about fetuses with a
> central
> > nervous system and maybe then you can throw
> some
> > stones in glass houses.
>
> I tend to donate well over 10% of my income to
> charitable causes and donate all used clothes to
> charities around the region. We all need to be
> more charitable to others. Oh, and I am not
> affiliated with the GOP. I am an independent
> voter and always have been.
>
> > Either way, consensus and science is against
> you
> > champ.
>
> Um, not really, but you have been fed that line,
> so you use it.
>
> > No different in emotional state and
> > awareness of a 10 week old fetus and a cow.
> Deal
> > with it.
>
> By that logic, there is very little emotional
> state and awareness of a 2 day old or a one week
> old. I suppose you are fine killing it then as
> well?
Well clearly you are a doctor and biologist from your understanding in the difference between the nervous system of a fetus and one of a born child.
Congratulations doctor!
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
mt 2 cents
()
Date: April 26, 2013 04:03PM
Doctor "no"-it-all Wrote:
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> Well clearly you are a doctor and biologist from
> your understanding in the difference between the
> nervous system of a fetus and one of a born
> child.
WTF are you talking about. You made no mention of nervous system. You talked about emotional state and awareness.
> Congratulations doctor!
Congratulations Dr. Dipshit. You don't even understand what you write. How do you expect someone else to?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well clearly you are a doctor and biologist from
> your understanding in the difference between the
> nervous system of a fetus and one of a born
> child.
WTF are you talking about. You made no mention of nervous system. You talked about emotional state and awareness.
> Congratulations doctor!
Congratulations Dr. Dipshit. You don't even understand what you write. How do you expect someone else to?
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
I'm a bartender
()
Date: April 26, 2013 04:07PM
Doctor "no"-it-all Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> my 2 cents Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > deal with it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Right, except when that life is in another
> > country
> > > right, or another human being who is already
> > born
> > > dying in a gutter, or anything like that.
> >
> > Presume much?
> >
> > > GOP logic, always astounding. If perhaps,
> like
> > > some religious people, you were completely
> > against
> > > all dying people then perhaps I might take
> you
> > > seriously. Till then you are a hypocrit. Go
> > save
> > > the homeless guy in the street with as much
> > > passion as you have about fetuses with a
> > central
> > > nervous system and maybe then you can throw
> > some
> > > stones in glass houses.
> >
> > I tend to donate well over 10% of my income to
> > charitable causes and donate all used clothes
> to
> > charities around the region. We all need to be
> > more charitable to others. Oh, and I am not
> > affiliated with the GOP. I am an independent
> > voter and always have been.
> >
> > > Either way, consensus and science is against
> > you
> > > champ.
> >
> > Um, not really, but you have been fed that
> line,
> > so you use it.
> >
> > > No different in emotional state and
> > > awareness of a 10 week old fetus and a cow.
> > Deal
> > > with it.
> >
> > By that logic, there is very little emotional
> > state and awareness of a 2 day old or a one
> week
> > old. I suppose you are fine killing it then as
> > well?
>
> Well clearly you are a doctor and biologist from
> your understanding in the difference between the
> nervous system of a fetus and one of a born
> child.
>
> Congratulations doctor!
emtional state: The state of one's emotions
emotions: An intense mental state that arises subjectively rather than through conscious effort and is often accompanied by physiological changes
A one day old baby has about the same emotional awareness as a cow. Perhaps less. My 2 cents was correct.
Q.E.D. Doctor "no"-it-all is incorrect, illogical and a wee bit too emotional.
-------------------------------------------------------
> my 2 cents Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > deal with it Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Right, except when that life is in another
> > country
> > > right, or another human being who is already
> > born
> > > dying in a gutter, or anything like that.
> >
> > Presume much?
> >
> > > GOP logic, always astounding. If perhaps,
> like
> > > some religious people, you were completely
> > against
> > > all dying people then perhaps I might take
> you
> > > seriously. Till then you are a hypocrit. Go
> > save
> > > the homeless guy in the street with as much
> > > passion as you have about fetuses with a
> > central
> > > nervous system and maybe then you can throw
> > some
> > > stones in glass houses.
> >
> > I tend to donate well over 10% of my income to
> > charitable causes and donate all used clothes
> to
> > charities around the region. We all need to be
> > more charitable to others. Oh, and I am not
> > affiliated with the GOP. I am an independent
> > voter and always have been.
> >
> > > Either way, consensus and science is against
> > you
> > > champ.
> >
> > Um, not really, but you have been fed that
> line,
> > so you use it.
> >
> > > No different in emotional state and
> > > awareness of a 10 week old fetus and a cow.
> > Deal
> > > with it.
> >
> > By that logic, there is very little emotional
> > state and awareness of a 2 day old or a one
> week
> > old. I suppose you are fine killing it then as
> > well?
>
> Well clearly you are a doctor and biologist from
> your understanding in the difference between the
> nervous system of a fetus and one of a born
> child.
>
> Congratulations doctor!
emtional state: The state of one's emotions
emotions: An intense mental state that arises subjectively rather than through conscious effort and is often accompanied by physiological changes
A one day old baby has about the same emotional awareness as a cow. Perhaps less. My 2 cents was correct.
Q.E.D. Doctor "no"-it-all is incorrect, illogical and a wee bit too emotional.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Statementor
()
Date: April 26, 2013 09:32PM
So we're agreed: If Cuccinelli becomes our governor, we residents of the Commonwealth will be the laughing stocks of the entire country.
Don't let it happen!
Say NO! to this right-wing ideologue.
Don't let it happen!
Say NO! to this right-wing ideologue.
Re: Cuccinelli's Extreme Agenda Revealed Despite Campaign's Effort to Mask It
Posted by:
Liberal Logic 102
()
Date: April 26, 2013 11:52PM
Voice O' Reason Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Put your money where your mouth is. If
> abortion
> > is so great you should abort yourself. No more
> do
> > as I say not as I do. Why is life appropriate
> for
> > you but you want millions of other babies
> > murdered?
>
> Abortion is never an easy choice. But it's not
> yours to make. It should be the mother and
> father's, not some jackass behind a keyboard's.
Its really quite simple if you dont want a kid dont get pregnant. Its not hard for responsible people not to get pregnant.
Why cant parents abort their kids if they misbehave then? Its the parents choice right
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> Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Put your money where your mouth is. If
> abortion
> > is so great you should abort yourself. No more
> do
> > as I say not as I do. Why is life appropriate
> for
> > you but you want millions of other babies
> > murdered?
>
> Abortion is never an easy choice. But it's not
> yours to make. It should be the mother and
> father's, not some jackass behind a keyboard's.
Its really quite simple if you dont want a kid dont get pregnant. Its not hard for responsible people not to get pregnant.
Why cant parents abort their kids if they misbehave then? Its the parents choice right