I know this isn't especially relevant to Ffx Co. But lots of us do visit the Smithsonian Museums. Does anybody know what gun they carry? It looks like a fairly decent size revolver. Maybe a Smith or a Taurus?

Wrong forum, OP.

Most armed guards used to carry Smith & Wesson .38 caliber revolvers. If you worked for a company like Dunbar armored, it was probably a police trade in that many people before you used as well.

Back in the early 90's I worked at one of the Smithsonian museum's where an armed security guard murdered an unarmed cafeteria worker. They were in a spat over a man and the armed guard figured she she had it easy since the rest of us were in a gun free zone. The cafeteria, not so much. Not saying she'd have had a gun or been able to defend herself, but it was a no-brainer for the guard since she knew her prey would be unarmed.

Long Timer Wrote:
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> Back in the early 90's I worked at one of the
> Smithsonian museum's where an armed security guard
> murdered an unarmed cafeteria worker. They were in
> a spat over a man and the armed guard figured she
> she had it easy since the rest of us were in a gun
> free zone. The cafeteria, not so much. Not saying
> she'd have had a gun or been able to defend
> herself, but it was a no-brainer for the guard
> since she knew her prey would be unarmed.

Sounds like nigger business to me.

I will bet anything it was a nigger..up to some niggerdom.

@Whhhattt & @bigfoot: yup

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At about 12:49 p.m., the 88-year-old James von Brunn drove his car to the 14th Street entrance of the museum. Von Brunn entered the museum when security guard Stephen Tyrone Johns opened the door for him. Authorities said he raised a .22-caliber rifle and shot Johns,who later died of his injuries at the George Washington University Hospital.Two security guards, Harry Weeks and Jason "Mac" McCuiston, returned fire, wounding von Brunn.

Keep in mind the .22 he used to kill the guard would in all probability not be on the list of banned assault weapons due to its small caliber.

liberals are stupid Wrote:
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> Keep in mind the .22 he used to kill the guard
> would in all probability not be on the list of
> banned assault weapons due to its small caliber.

AR-15's are also .22 caliber but they're being demonized and referred to as an assault weapon.

Order of magnitude difference in kinetic energy between a a .22 and a .223. Not that you can't kill someone with either, obviously.

16Tons Wrote:
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> liberals are stupid Wrote:
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> > Keep in mind the .22 he used to kill the guard
> > would in all probability not be on the list of
> > banned assault weapons due to its small
> caliber.
>
> AR-15's are also .22 caliber but they're being
> demonized and referred to as an assault weapon.

@16 - thats cause the ar-15 can spit out more of those .22's for a longer sustained time period than can a pistol - kinda why we consider it an ASSUALT weapon. Cause it's designed for something OTHER than defense.

Lock n Load Wrote:
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> Order of magnitude difference in kinetic energy
> between a a .22 and a .223. Not that you can't
> kill someone with either, obviously.
>
> 16Tons Wrote:
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> > liberals are stupid Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Keep in mind the .22 he used to kill the
> guard
> > > would in all probability not be on the list
> of
> > > banned assault weapons due to its small
> > caliber.
>
> > AR-15's are also .22 caliber but they're being
> > demonized and referred to as an assault weapon.

Are you stupid? .223 is four times the size of .22LR.

No, the complete round is bigger but the bullets are the same. A .223 just has more powder behind it. To answer G boulevard there actually are .22 handguns that hold more than 30 rounds.

Actually I'm wrong, the diameter of a .22 is .222 and the .223 is .224. Not a 3x difference though.

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> Actually I'm wrong, the diameter of a .22 is .222
> and the .223 is .224. Not a 3x difference though.

The difference is smaller than a cunt hair. I get a charge out of the dumbass media referring to an AR-15 as a large caliber firearm.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @16 - thats cause the ar-15 can spit out more of
> those .22's for a longer sustained time period
> than can a pistol - kinda why we consider it an
> ASSUALT weapon. Cause it's designed for something
> OTHER than defense.


Again you have no idea what youre talking. You prove time and time again you dont have the slightest clue about guns.

I have enough of a clue to know they kill...........and that's ALL. THEY. DO.

I also know you seem to feel you know more about guns than me and that you also seem to feel because I regularly use firearms, I have no right to be concerned about them...............which is one of the most selfish, stuck-up, and entitled feelings that ANY gun owner or lover could have in this Nation. But that's just par for the course for ya, isnt it? Just say "FUCK YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF YR KIDS" just cause I dont like guns, is that it?

Yeah, I dont know much about guns. What's your fucking point? If I'm wrong about something, then TELL ME HOW, show us what I'm wrong about, and provide links so you can educate your neighbors on what you know.

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> Bojangler Wrote:
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> > Actually I'm wrong, the diameter of a .22 is
> .222
> > and the .223 is .224. Not a 3x difference
> though.
>
> The difference is smaller than a cunt hair. I get
> a charge out of the dumbass media referring to an
> AR-15 as a large caliber firearm.

Diameter is about the same but there is a slight fucking difference in length and cartridge size. Have you ever seen a human body that was hit with a .223 round?
I never want to see a child hit by one again.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> I have enough of a clue to know they
> kill...........and that's ALL. THEY. DO.
>
> I also know you seem to feel you know more about
> guns than me and that you also seem to feel
> because I regularly use firearms, I have no right
> to be concerned about them...............which is
> one of the most selfish, stuck-up, and entitled
> feelings that ANY gun owner or lover could have in
> this Nation. But that's just par for the course
> for ya, isnt it? Just say "FUCK YOUR CONCERNS
> ABOUT YOUR SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF YR KIDS" just
> cause I dont like guns, is that it?
>
> Yeah, I dont know much about guns. What's your
> fucking point? If I'm wrong about something, then
> TELL ME HOW, show us what I'm wrong about, and
> provide links so you can educate your neighbors on
> what you know.

You obviously dont regularly use firearms if you think a .223 and .22 are significantly different in size or if theyre defensive weapons and offensive weapons. You know what a defensive weapon is a claymore mine. Or if you think .22 pistols dont hold close to if not more rounds than a rifle.

Actually if you do regularly use firearms you should honestly stop and take a safety course or an education class on guns with how misinformed you are about them.

Ive told you how youre wrong about everything in numerous threads, you just keep spewing the same incorrect information in every thread that appears. You dont have the first clue about crime, about what weapons are actually used in crimes, about where the weapons came from, or even a basic understanding of what weapons are/how they work yet were supposed to listen rants about how evil and dangerous guns are from a person that doesnt even know what they are other than they shoot stuff.

@chuckhoffman:

Good find. I couldn't remember the exact date and year but I did recall it was summer because I went to the funeral over in Anacostia and the church was packed and being early September and wearing a suit it was ball-sweating hot.

Cheryl was one of the first people to befriend me when I started working there. Every morning I'd get in a little early to get some breakfast at the cafeteria and would be greeted by the friendliest smile and most positive personality in Cheryl. She was really a wonderful person. I'm not trying to get all sappy, but it was kind of saddening when she was murdered like that.

They could be old Smith & Wesson Model 10s that were made surplus when police made the switch to pistols......or they could be some Taurus/Rossi knockoff.



Apparently the Smithsonian has armed security guards for most of the buildings and exhibits, but the zoo part actually has accredited police officers. They are called the Zoological Police, have police powers in DC, and they get sent to FLETC for training.

"but the zoo part actually has accredited police officers"

Are you talking about the real zoo with elephants or just DC being a zoo?

Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
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> Ive told you how youre wrong about everything in
> numerous threads, you just keep spewing the same
> incorrect information in every thread that
> appears. You dont have the first clue about
> crime, about what weapons are actually used in
> crimes, about where the weapons came from, or even
> a basic understanding of what weapons are/how they
> work yet were supposed to listen rants about how
> evil and dangerous guns are from a person that
> doesnt even know what they are other than they
> shoot stuff.


One good thing about Gordo -- He/She/It provides a wealth of opportunities to correct the same old uniformed misinformation.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/22_penny_223-tfb.jpg

Size does matter and your thumb isn't eight inches in length.

Liberal Logic's mother lied. Wrote:
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> http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uplo
> ads/2011/04/22_penny_223-tfb.jpg
>
> Size does matter and your thumb isn't eight inches
> in length.

Nice some more immature fallacies. .223 vs .22 matters if youre shooting at 100 yards. If your walking around a school shooting people it makes no difference which is what apparently started all this "concern" in the first place.

Funny how you cant even figure out from your own picture that the vast majority of the size difference is from the powder and not the projectile itself.

Or do you now plan to argue .22s are deadly.

Next youll be telling me the military uses .223 rounds and thats why theyre so dangerous

@101 - thats all nice in good, but what EXACTLY is yr point? Who really cares what size rounds nutcase are using to shot childen, moviegoers and mall shoppers with?
You gun nuts take the cake sometimes. "Why Gordo, you should REALLY be more concerned about what diameter bullet could kill yr kid MORE than yr kid's safety"

@lied-funny how 101 cares more about guns than people

@errata - let me guess......................
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Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @101 - thats all nice in good, but what EXACTLY
> is yr point? Who really cares what size rounds
> nutcase are using to shot childen, moviegoers and
> mall shoppers with?
> You gun nuts take the cake sometimes. "Why Gordo,
> you should REALLY be more concerned about what
> diameter bullet could kill yr kid MORE than yr
> kid's safety"


And thus youve proved my point. You have absolutely no idea what youre talking about in any way shape or form and cannot defend or make a single coherent statement. So you resort to name calling and topic changes.


Anyone who makes the statement "thats cause the ar-15 can spit out more of those .22's for a longer sustained time period than can a pistol - kinda why we consider it an ASSUALT weapon. Cause it's designed for something OTHER than defense." has no business talking about gun violence. Literally nothing you said in that statement was true yet you somehow know how to stop gun violence.

So tell me what part of 12k murders from 300 million guns is such an epidemic that you make it out to be.

Why are guns increasing every year while gun violence is decreasing. By your logic it should be going up.

Why does the majority of gun violence come from young black male gang members if its such an epidemic everywhere?

If you know whats best why cant you put together a factual statement and actually discuss the issue like a mature adult using actual facts?

um, hows calling someone who's nuts about guns (i.e. a gun nut) name calling? You sat all day here talking about guns, bullets and the like and now yr getting all butthurt cause I said yr a gun nut? THATS CLASSIC!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!

anywho, you got me. how DARE i not know what size bullets come out of the damn gun that's mowing down kids in a school LoLz - my priorites are SO out of whack on that one, Sarge - ROFLMAO@U and yr inability to see how kinda inhuman yr being.

And I'm honestly not trying to clown you. I seriously think yr fear of..............well whatever it is has blinded you. Take a look at what you just wrote to me, yo:

1) So tell me what part of 12k murders from 300 million guns is such an epidemic that you make it out to be.
you focus more on the firearm number than the number of human lives, FELLOW AMERICAN LIVES taken? 12K murders is like OVER THREE/FOUR FUCKING TIMES what Bin Laden did. So I guess he wasnt worth doing anything about either in yr eyes, right?


Why are guns increasing every year while gun violence is decreasing. By your logic it should be going up.

lol whut? Here's this inhuman logic again. Yeah, Gordo - these gun murders are just in the thousands, not tens of thousands it used to be................so it's ok? Just nuts, yo. And NO, by ANY sane person's logic, you'd want to grow up and work to decrease gun violence as much as possible (and not be satisfied with just trickles)

Why does the majority of gun violence come from young black male gang members if its such an epidemic everywhere?

Wow. Are you really asking this? Cause last I checked, Sandy Hook, Batman, and Fireman killer were white as rice. Not too sure why race is all of a sudden a factor in gun violence to you.....................but um, any gun laws wouldnt be race-based so there's no worry for you on that, k? o_0

If you know whats best why cant you put together a factual statement and actually discuss the issue like a mature adult using actual facts?

HA! That's HILARIOUS! To you, mature adults have to know about firearms. ROFLMAO!!! As for facts.........................

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Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> um, hows calling someone who's nuts about guns
> (i.e. a gun nut) name calling? You sat all day
> here talking about guns, bullets and the like and
> now yr getting all butthurt cause I said yr a gun
> nut? THATS CLASSIC!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Yea why should we let facts get in the way of someone clearly as informed and intelligent as you.

Obviously youre in high school and the educational system has failed you.

> anywho, you got me. how DARE i not know what size
> bullets come out of the damn gun that's mowing
> down kids in a school LoLz - my priorites are SO
> out of whack on that one, Sarge - ROFLMAO@U and yr
> inability to see how kinda inhuman yr being.

Yes if your going to argue something is more dangerous and needs to be banned then you should know what youre talking about.

Yes Im a terrible person because I would expect someone arguing to trample the constitution to at least be informed about what they are saying.

> And I'm honestly not trying to clown you. I
> seriously think yr fear of..............well
> whatever it is has blinded you. Take a look at
> what you just wrote to me, yo:

Whether youre trying to be or not you clearly are a clown, yo.

> 1) So tell me what part of 12k murders from 300
> million guns is such an epidemic that you make it
> out to be.
> you focus more on the firearm number than the
> number of human lives, FELLOW AMERICAN LIVES
> taken? 12K murders is like OVER THREE/FOUR
> FUCKING TIMES what Bin Laden did. So I guess he
> wasnt worth doing anything about either in yr
> eyes, right?

Hundred of people die from swimming pools. Thousands die every year from doctor prescribed medicines. Wheres the outrage for that?

You do understand that things have to be looked at in proportion. Again you ignore the fact that most of those are gang related, tell me what law has ever changed the way a gang operates?

> Why are guns increasing every year while gun
> violence is decreasing. By your logic it should be
> going up.
>
> lol whut? Here's this inhuman logic again.
> Yeah, Gordo - these gun murders are just in the
> thousands, not tens of thousands it used to
> be................so it's ok? Just nuts, yo.
> And NO, by ANY sane person's logic, you'd want to
> grow up and work to decrease gun violence as much
> as possible (and not be satisfied with just
> trickles)

Its been going down for years. Thats not a trickle or a year to year variance. Youll learn that if you bother to go to college when the time comes.

> Why does the majority of gun violence come from
> young black male gang members if its such an
> epidemic everywhere?
>
> Wow. Are you really asking this? Cause last I
> checked, Sandy Hook, Batman, and Fireman killer
> were white as rice. Not too sure why race is all
> of a sudden a factor in gun violence to
> you.....................but um, any gun laws
> wouldnt be race-based so there's no worry for you
> on that, k? o_0

Last I checked 50 deaths isnt the majority of gun violence, if it is its even less of a problem.

Oh right I forgot you dont deal in facts you just use extreme rare incidents to emotionalize things when facts dont support the bullshit you spew.

> If you know whats best why cant you put together a
> factual statement and actually discuss the issue
> like a mature adult using actual facts?
>
> HA! That's HILARIOUS! To you, mature adults have
> to know about firearms. ROFLMAO!!! As for
> facts.........................

You have proved without a doubt to be one of the dumbest anti gun posters on this website and that really is quite an accomplishment. Well done.

Theres really nothing else to say to someone as stupid as you and there really is just no other way to describe what you wrote. Youre right how dare I expect someone to be informed about something when they decide to enter EVERY thread about it saying the same bullshit. Do yourself a favor and leave adult issues to adults.

Basically to sum up your entire response since there wasnt a single fact or intelligent response:

Gordon Blvd, what you just wrote is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

so let's review this 101 logic here:

a) name calling is ok acceptable when he/she does it
b) you really should know at caliber the bullet the psycho or crook has that is shooting at you - or else you really have no reason to be upset at such a possibility happening to yr friends or fam
c) asking gun owners to be more responsible = trampling on the Constitution
d) a swimming pool is the same as a gun (WOW)
e) you've obviously never heard of the RICO act (google it)


101, what you just wrote is sadly, not one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. (that honour still goes to that Rose Hill thread) You are still so wrapped up in seeing me as some "anti-gun" person when in reality, if you've ever bothered to actually read what I've written, you'd see differently. But whateves - this aint my first rodeo.

I never claimed to be a gunnut like you. I'm just someone with kids who never wants to see this happen at Forestville or Aldrin. Your attitude towards me, ppl like me, and our concerns for our and our kids safety (i.e fuck off, little kid, your vote dont count) really shows me what a typical gun person TRULY thinks of their neighbors in their community.

No name calling here but let's be honest, the world is a giant shithole and we are all going to die. I just want to make sure I have the best chance of surviving as long possible by taking advantage of the weak, lazy and stupid.

Yep, I will aim at your face!

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> so let's review this 101 logic here:
>
> a) name calling is ok acceptable when he/she does
> it
> b) you really should know at caliber the bullet
> the psycho or crook has that is shooting at you -
> or else you really have no reason to be upset at
> such a possibility happening to yr friends or fam
> c) asking gun owners to be more responsible =
> trampling on the Constitution
> d) a swimming pool is the same as a gun (WOW)
> e) you've obviously never heard of the RICO act
> (google it)
>
>
> 101, what you just wrote is sadly, not one of the
> most insanely idiotic things I have ever read.
> (that honour still goes to that Rose Hill thread)
> You are still so wrapped up in seeing me as some
> "anti-gun" person when in reality, if you've ever
> bothered to actually read what I've written, you'd
> see differently. But whateves - this aint my
> first rodeo.
>
> I never claimed to be a gunnut like you. I'm just
> someone with kids who never wants to see this
> happen at Forestville or Aldrin. Your attitude
> towards me, ppl like me, and our concerns for our
> and our kids safety (i.e fuck off, little kid,
> your vote dont count) really shows me what a
> typical gun person TRULY thinks of their neighbors
> in their community.

Again youve yet to make a single factual truthful statement. Still waiting for you to provide a single fact about anything. Ive read everything youve written and all you do is contradict yourself left and right and base your opinions off of lies and what you think to be true which couldnt be further from the truth.

I really hope you dont have kids "yo".

My attitude towards people like you is entirely based in the fact that you have no clue what your discussing.

Guns are illegal in schools.
It was illegal for the shooter to have those guns.
He transported them illegal.
Pointing guns at people is illegal.
Shooting at people is illegal.
Murdering people is illegal.

Please tell me how one more law would have stopped that. The only way to stop murderers with guns is for someone to have the ability to forcefully stop them. Not trampling the constitution because you dont have a clue what youre talking about "yo".

Im really getting bored with you if you arent going to bring a single fact to the table.

@Bojangler CENTER MASS, BABY!!!!! even an idiot like me knows that LoLz

edit: @101 - Only law I've ever been in favor off is a trigger lock law. I think if you arent currently using a firearm, it's trigger should be lock and keys stored in a separate place. Whatever you have in yr head is kinda funny...........



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Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
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> Again youve yet to make a single factual truthful
> statement. Still waiting for you to provide a
> single fact about anything. Ive read everything
> youve written and all you do is contradict
> yourself left and right and base your opinions off
> of lies and what you think to be true which
> couldnt be further from the truth.
>
> I really hope you dont have kids "yo".
>
> My attitude towards people like you is entirely
> based in the fact that you have no clue what your
> discussing.
>
> Guns are illegal in schools.
> It was illegal for the shooter to have those
> guns.
> He transported them illegal.
> Pointing guns at people is illegal.
> Shooting at people is illegal.
> Murdering people is illegal.
>
> Please tell me how one more law would have stopped
> that. The only way to stop murderers with guns is
> for someone to have the ability to forcefully stop
> them. Not trampling the constitution because you
> dont have a clue what youre talking about "yo".
>
> Im really getting bored with you if you arent
> going to bring a single fact to the table.


so bored you find yourself continuing to single me out BY NAME, mind you. LoLz

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>
> so bored you find yourself continuing to single me
> out BY NAME, mind you. LoLz


If you really are a parent can you tell us what season of teen mom you were on?

Typical anti-gun nut. Spouts off a bunch of shit then when facts gets in the way just pretend they dont exist and change the subject and put up stupid pictures

Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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>
> >
> > so bored you find yourself continuing to single
> me
> > out BY NAME, mind you. LoLz
>
>
> If you really are a parent can you tell us what
> season of teen mom you were on?
>
> Typical anti-gun nut. Spouts off a bunch of shit
> then when facts gets in the way just pretend they
> dont exist and change the subject and put up
> stupid pictures



You have to keep it simple when you're talking to Gordog.

Approach it as if you're talking to a big dumb Golden Lab.

You know the way that they kind of cock their head to the side and look at you with that puzzled look?

There ya go. Now you're at the right level.

Give it a break Gordon Blvd
In the search section you come up as posting 38 times today alone
Thats crazy

Just bend over, spread your legs, open your mouth. If the bad guys want it, just give it to them. Geez.

I once lived out in the countryside, where the police were 30 minutes away if they showed up at all. 5 people showed up wielding handguns and shotguns. I had my AK and my wife had the AR. It went down like this (in the country of course):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_rz2wBYin4

I usually beg for my life before I "get it in the ass"

BAN ALL GUNS!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_rz2wBYin4

The security officers at the smithsonian carry 38 spl s&w revolvers. There are only 2 calibers authorised for DC SPOs (special police officers) and that is 38cal and 9mm.

Yeah because you patiently explain to people why you disagree with them alot.

Butthurt much?

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> I have enough of a clue to know they
> kill...........and that's ALL. THEY. DO.
>
> I also know you seem to feel you know more about
> guns than me and that you also seem to feel
> because I regularly use firearms, I have no right
> to be concerned about them...............which is
> one of the most selfish, stuck-up, and entitled
> feelings that ANY gun owner or lover could have in
> this Nation. But that's just par for the course
> for ya, isnt it? Just say "FUCK YOUR CONCERNS
> ABOUT YOUR SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF YR KIDS" just
> cause I dont like guns, is that it?
>
> Yeah, I dont know much about guns. What's your
> fucking point? If I'm wrong about something, then
> TELL ME HOW, show us what I'm wrong about, and
> provide links so you can educate your neighbors on
> what you know.

@control - I think you got the definition of butthurt wrong - if I get stupid ppl (i.e. confederate traitors, racists, ppl who fight behind shopping centers, etc.) upset, then they are butthurt. I just get to laugh =) Hope that helps you.

@concerned - so thats what I can expect from a gun owner in my community - a FUCKING OK CORRAL GUNFIGHT? I've never seen anything like that happen where I live I can tell ya that..........cause we dont have any sort of dealings with groups of armed negros in 300s........... PRO TIP: Common sense is a better weapon than a gunfight ANYDAY!

@Give - not as crazy as someone actually taking time out of their REAL LIFE to bother to look up how many times I post. Even I dont do that...........

@Good - nice pic. If the law abiding gun owner hadnt SOLD THAT CRIMINAL THE GUN IN THE FIRST PLACE, then we wouldnt be having this discussion now, would we? http://www.nssf.org/factsheets/PDF/strawPurchase.pdf it's PATHETIC that this y'all wanna clown me just for wanting YOU as gun owners/lovers to HELP others FIGHT gun crime....................

@Fly - so yr saying y'all are like the Muslim Brotherhood then? LoLz

@101 - you know something, you really need to troll harder. Yeah, you may know a lot about guns, but any idiot who'd compare a gun to a swimming pool in an argument and then complain that he's not getting enough "facts" is kinda loony. P.S. I'll give you your "facts" as soon as you show us the words "gun" or "firearm" in the Constitution or Declaration of Independence"

..........and dont waste time bringing up Heller cause all Im gonna hear is "Dred Scott", k?

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Gordon Blvd, you should search yourself.
You'll get a dose of reality.
It really took no time out of my life, maybe 30 seconds.
Click search, type in Gordon Blvd, click search and there it is.
It's even already numbered. Today you have already posted 10 times.
You go around telling people to get a Real Life.
It seems you need a REAL Life. Look at the hours you spend on FFU.
Kind of hypocritical isn't it?
I'm off to tend to my REAL LIFE away from FFU.

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> @Good - nice pic. If the law abiding gun owner
> hadnt SOLD THAT CRIMINAL THE GUN IN THE FIRST
> PLACE, then we wouldnt be having this discussion
> now, would we?
> http://www.nssf.org/factsheets/PDF/strawPurchase.p
> df it's PATHETIC that this y'all wanna clown me
> just for wanting YOU as gun owners/lovers to HELP
> others FIGHT gun crime....................
>

Maybe we need a law against straw purchases. Oh wait, they're already illegal. By definition, they would not be a law-abiding gun owner if they participated in a straw purchase.

The vast majority of straw purchases are by organized criminal groups not by typical gun owners. The ATF understands this. Apparently you don't.

Now go roll in your poop. *pat* *pat*

@Good Dog - you can namecall all you want it dont change the fact that it's YOU who are full of poop LoLz: http://www.atf.gov/publications/factsheets/factsheet-dont-lie-campaign.html

@Give - and yet you feel the need to read and respond - lol@u

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EVERYONE just ignore Gordon BLVD from now on. Clearly its someone thats mentally ill or a troll. Anyone that actually wants to have a legitimate discussion feel free to chime in.

Other than that just ignore the stupid shit the 15 year old posts and once he sees hes not longer getting attention attention hell move onto another topic. No one can really be as stupid as he is, youd have more luck teaching monkeys theoretical physics

Interesting data!

"Why is it the progressive liberal that steals guns and then goes and kills
movie goers and children in school has never been an NRA member?"

Ft Hood - Registered Democrat- Muslim

Columbine - Too young to vote - both families were registered Democrats
and progressive liberals

VA Tech - Wrote hate mail to Pres Bush and to his staff. Registered
Democrat

Colorado Theater - Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama
campaign, occupy wall street participant, progressive liberal

Connecticut School Shooter - Registered Democrat, hated Christians

Common thread is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal
democrats."

Interesting...isn't it?

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @16 - thats cause the ar-15 can spit out more of
> those .22's for a longer sustained time period
> than can a pistol - kinda why we consider it an
> ASSUALT weapon. Cause it's designed for something
> OTHER than defense.

A well trained pistol shooter can fire just as quickly as a guy with an AR-15.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php?2,file=79683,filename=nra_has_allllll_the_answers_lol.jpg

Regarding this picture... Oswald was a trained marksman. In 1958, he scored 58/60 with the M1 Garand. That is an exceptional score. Accuracy will always trump firepower IF you use patience.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @16 - thats cause the ar-15 can spit out more of
> those .22's for a longer sustained time period
> than can a pistol - kinda why we consider it an
> ASSUALT weapon. Cause it's designed for something
> OTHER than defense.

No, you stupid ignorant dumbfuck douche. .22LR bullets are 36 to 60 grains in weight (2.3 to 3.9 grams), while .223 bullets range from 40 to 90 grains in weight (2.6 to 5.8 grams).

Bojangler Wrote:
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> No, the complete round is bigger but the bullets
> are the same. A .223 just has more powder behind
> it.

Ahhh, another stupid ignorant dumbfuck douche.

Hunting with my car would be sweeeeeeet!

Liberal Logic 101 Wrote:
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> EVERYONE just ignore Gordon BLVD from now on.
> Clearly its someone thats mentally ill or a troll.
> Anyone that actually wants to have a legitimate
> discussion feel free to chime in.
>
> Other than that just ignore the stupid shit the 15
> year old posts and once he sees hes not longer
> getting attention attention hell move onto another
> topic. No one can really be as stupid as he is,
> youd have more luck teaching monkeys theoretical
> physics

And who the fuck are you? Another basement dweller who reads Guns and Ammo? The lady has her opinion just like you. Are you an expert with firearms? Ever been shot? What caliber? Been in a firefight? Ever flown into a hot zone and witness three comrades have their bodies opened up in twenty minutes. Please inform us how you acquired your professional knowledge?

20 grains or 100 grains, it still doesn't change the fact that you are a funboy of legendary gayness.

@Bo - and you can use a Bushmaster just like sniper did LoLz
@Whatt - already schooled - try and keep up, son
@Young - the operative word in that sentence is "well-trained".
@gun - cause republicans drive ppl nuts LoLz
@101 - awwwwwwwww, didums I hurt yr little feewers? ROFLMAO@u when yr answer is to just stick yr fingers in yr ears LoLz

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Good Dog - you can namecall all you want it dont
> change the fact that it's YOU who are full of poop
> LoLz:
> http://www.atf.gov/publications/factsheets/factshe
> et-dont-lie-campaign.html
>


Which says, exactly what I said. Straw purchases already are illegal. From your own link - "buying a gun for someone who is prohibited is a federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000."

With regard to the nature of gun trafficing and the significance of organized delivery and diversion of guns versus simple casual sales or straw purchases by individuals, see the ATF's own reviews of traced weapons associated with gun crimes, for example, here:

http://policeissues.com/Sources.pdf

In particular Table IV on page 231 and the discussion which follows through page 234 re the importance of illicit organized sources and dealers.

But then I shouldn't expect a dumb dog like you to actually read and understand such things, even your own links. lol

Saturday Nite Special Wrote:
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> And who the fuck are you? Another basement dweller
> who reads Guns and Ammo? The lady has her opinion
> just like you. Are you an expert with firearms?
> Ever been shot? What caliber? Been in a firefight?
> Ever flown into a hot zone and witness three
> comrades have their bodies opened up in twenty
> minutes. Please inform us how you acquired your
> professional knowledge?


I base my opinions in fact, she does not. I highly doubt shes a lady or an adult either with how she types. "yo" "lolz" "butthurt" none of which are words any adult should ever type seriously.

I noticed you also didnt bother to dispute any of the facts. Typical

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Young - the operative word in that sentence is
> "well-trained".

I'm far more worried about a guy with a pistol than I am worried about some clown with an AR-15. Pistols are generally small caliber with very manageable recoil. In many cases, they have larger rounds than AR-15 does. You can fire a pistol rapidly and accurately with a minimum of training. The AR-15 is longer, far more cumbersome, and has a kick. You can fire it rapidly, but it requires a good deal of training to fire it rapidly and accurately.

As I said earlier today, accuracy will trump firepower. The Charlie Whitman types are the ones who scare me most; they're well trained for the most part. The Adam Lanzas worry me a little less than the Charlie Whitmans. Make no mistake, they scare me too. Both are very dangerous. IMO, one is more dangerous than the other.

@YC - and yet I've got can count 3 untrained ppl committing AR-15 mass killings in public locations ALL IN THE LAST MONTH. And it's that combanation of accuratcy and firepower ALONG with that AR-15's ability for long-range killing (I love how everyone around here likes to forget about BLUE TARP at Exxon when talking about this stuff) makes them more dangerous than a pistol.

@102-yes, those facts like how pistols are like swimming pools LoLz

@good - tl/dr. And sigh...........never stated straw purchases are illegal. Just stated (AGAIN....cause y'all gun nuts would rather fight than LISTEN) that I wished gun owners/lovers would work WITH other Americans instead of AGAINST their neighbors and their community to REDUCE gun crime.

And since it's LEGAL gun owners/lovers who sell/purchase a gun, and THEN turn around and ILLEGALLY give that same gun to others, I call on them to stop this culture that permeates in their community. We alllllllllready know that I dont know (or care) about what caliber bullet you would shoot me or my kids with when you go crazy at the Safeway :(

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Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > @Young - the operative word in that sentence is
> > "well-trained".
>
> I'm far more worried about a guy with a pistol
> than I am worried about some clown with an AR-15.
> Pistols are generally small caliber with very
> manageable recoil. In many cases, they have larger
> rounds than AR-15 does. You can fire a pistol
> rapidly and accurately with a minimum of training.
> The AR-15 is longer, far more cumbersome, and has
> a kick. You can fire it rapidly, but it requires a
> good deal of training to fire it rapidly and
> accurately.
>


Wow, you've got that seriously backwards. At the same range for an untrained shooter, the AR-15 is much more accurate than a pistol due to the longer sight radius and more easily controllable recoil. Because fucky the you.

Whatttttt Wrote:
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > @Young - the operative word in that sentence
> is
> > > "well-trained".
> >
> > I'm far more worried about a guy with a pistol
> > than I am worried about some clown with an
> AR-15.
> > Pistols are generally small caliber with very
> > manageable recoil. In many cases, they have
> larger
> > rounds than AR-15 does. You can fire a pistol
> > rapidly and accurately with a minimum of
> training.
> > The AR-15 is longer, far more cumbersome, and
> has
> > a kick. You can fire it rapidly, but it requires
> a
> > good deal of training to fire it rapidly and
> > accurately.
> >
>
>
> Wow, you've got that seriously backwards. At the
> same range for an untrained shooter, the AR-15 is
> much more accurate than a pistol due to the longer
> sight radius and more easily controllable recoil.
> Because fucky the you.

What range are we talking about? Pistols are generally easier to handle. Why do you think the majority of murders are committed with handguns?

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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>
> What range are we talking about? Pistols are
> generally easier to handle. Why do you think the
> majority of murders are committed with handguns?


They're easier to hide.

Mostly cuz Wrote:
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> Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > What range are we talking about? Pistols are
> > generally easier to handle. Why do you think
> the
> > majority of murders are committed with
> handguns?
>
>
> They're easier to hide.

That is true, both of you are right actaully. The rifles are accurate and easier for a first time shooter to be on target with from about 10 feet or more. Most shootings happen within a couple feet where the rifle is harder to get on target and move around than a pistol would be. Even a novice shooter can hit with any weapon 3 or 4 feet away.

Anything up close youd rather have a pistol than a rifle if your life depended on it. But bother can either be easier or harder to be accurate depending on the situation.

Getting back to the shootings that started it all a pistol is the more effective weapon, faster reloads, no one opposing you, easier to aim. Hence the Newton shooter LEFT THE AR IN THE CAR.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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>
> @good - tl/dr. And sigh...........never stated
> straw purchases are illegal. Just stated
> (AGAIN....cause y'all gun nuts would rather fight
> than LISTEN) that I wished gun owners/lovers would
> work WITH other Americans instead of AGAINST their
> neighbors and their community to REDUCE gun crime.
>
>
> And since it's LEGAL gun owners/lovers who
> sell/purchase a gun, and THEN turn around and
> ILLEGALLY give that same gun to others, I call on
> them to stop this culture that permeates in their
> community. We alllllllllready know that I dont
> know (or care) about what caliber bullet you would
> shoot me or my kids with when you go crazy at the
> Safeway :(
>
> pic unrelated


You rattled off your same tired bullshit and posted a link to an article re straw purchases. You follow in this post with a whine about people engaging in straw purchases. Now why would we think that you're talking about straw purchases? Which again ALREADY ARE ILLEGAL and not something that LEGAL gun owners do (by definition). Then you go off into some complete bizarre non sequitur about shooting you at the Safeway. lmao

You're a joke dude. lol

Good Doggy Wrote:
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> You rattled off your same tired bullshit and
> posted a link to an article re straw purchases.
> You follow in this post with a whine about people
> engaging in straw purchases. Now why would we
> think that you're talking about straw purchases?
> Which again ALREADY ARE ILLEGAL and not something
> that LEGAL gun owners do (by definition). Then
> you go off into some complete bizarre non sequitur
> about shooting you at the Safeway. lmao
>
> You're a joke dude. lol

Youd honestly have more success teaching theoretical physics to your cat and expecting it to build a time machine at this point.

I mean really probably 20+ threads a couple 100 postings and not a single factual statement made at this point.

I'm going to invent lasers that can cut people in half from over 1 miles away :) Take that liberal-ass bitches.

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> You can fire a pistol
> rapidly and accurately with a minimum of training.
> The AR-15 is longer, far more cumbersome, and has
> a kick. You can fire it rapidly, but it requires a
> good deal of training to fire it rapidly and
> accurately.
>


I'm sorry, but you have it backwards.

1) At any range, a rifle is more accurate than a handgun (longer barrel)

2) The AR-15's recoil is minimal. Your grandmother could fire one without much problem. (it was made to have little recoil)

3) In rapid fire a rifle generally takes less time to re-acquire the target. (longer, heavier barrel, that you are holding on to)


I agree, handguns do kill many more people a year than rifles, but not for the reasons you mentioned.

 



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Also I noticed near the top that there was an argument about .22LR vs. .223 ....

While the actual bullets are NEARLY the same size (Yes, I know the .223 is slightly wider and heavier). The .223 has much more powder than the .22, giving the .223 about twice the velocity of the .22

Now... if you think back to high school physics.... Force = mass x velocity. So even though the bullets that leave the gun are nearly the same size and mass, the .223 has TWICE the force since it is moving twice as fast as its' slower .22 counterpart.

Therefore, .223 is considerably more powerful than a .22

 



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Notice, similar size lead, but one has much more powder and goes twice as fast... to wit, more force.

 
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friskydingo Wrote:
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> Notice, similar size lead, but one has much more
> powder and goes twice as fast... to wit, more
> force.


If by similar you mean "one is a fuckton bigger than the other" then yes, they are similar.

Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
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> Whatttttt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Young Curmudgeon Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > @Young - the operative word in that
> sentence
> > is
> > > > "well-trained".
> > >
> > > I'm far more worried about a guy with a
> pistol
> > > than I am worried about some clown with an
> > AR-15.
> > > Pistols are generally small caliber with very
> > > manageable recoil. In many cases, they have
> > larger
> > > rounds than AR-15 does. You can fire a pistol
> > > rapidly and accurately with a minimum of
> > training.
> > > The AR-15 is longer, far more cumbersome, and
> > has
> > > a kick. You can fire it rapidly, but it
> requires
> > a
> > > good deal of training to fire it rapidly and
> > > accurately.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Wow, you've got that seriously backwards. At
> the
> > same range for an untrained shooter, the AR-15
> is
> > much more accurate than a pistol due to the
> longer
> > sight radius and more easily controllable
> recoil.
> > Because fucky the you.
>
> What range are we talking about? Pistols are
> generally easier to handle. Why do you think the
> majority of murders are committed with handguns?


Because niggers think they would look silly with a rifle jammed down their pants like Plaxico at a strip club.

friskydingo Wrote:
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> Also I noticed near the top that there was an
> argument about .22LR vs. .223 ....
>
> While the actual bullets are NEARLY the same size
> (Yes, I know the .223 is slightly wider and
> heavier). The .223 has much more powder than the
> .22, giving the .223 about twice the velocity of
> the .22
>
> Now... if you think back to high school
> physics.... Force = mass x velocity. So even
> though the bullets that leave the gun are nearly
> the same size and mass, the .223 has TWICE the
> force since it is moving twice as fast as its'
> slower .22 counterpart.
>
> Therefore, .223 is considerably more powerful than
> a .22


Wow, you couldn't post total bullshit just once? The .223 round is up to 3 times bigger than the .22 round, because fucky the you,

.22LR mass is 20-60 grains... generally 40 grains

.223 Remington's mass is 55-90 grains..... generally 55 grain

I don't see how you think the .223 is THREE times the size.

 

Is Pierce Morgan using ffu now?

 

friskydingo Wrote:
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> .22LR mass is 20-60 grains... generally 40 grains
>
> .223 Remington's mass is 55-90 grains.....
> generally 55 grain
>
> I don't see how you think the .223 is THREE times
> the size.


20 goes into 90 four and a half times, so "up to 3 times" was quite reasonable. Fucky the you.

I'm so fucking stupid. I thought they were the same size!

Liberal Logic102 Wrote:
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> I'm so fucking stupid. I thought they were the
> same size!


The bullet itself is comparable.

But you missed the point that the .223 isnt the deadly military round with no equals anywhere else in the gun world like people like you want us to believe.

I bet you think the military uses them as well

Whhhhatttt Wrote:
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> friskydingo Wrote:
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> > .22LR mass is 20-60 grains... generally 40
> grains
> >
> > .223 Remington's mass is 55-90 grains.....
> > generally 55 grain
> >
> > I don't see how you think the .223 is THREE
> times
> > the size.
>
>
> 20 goes into 90 four and a half times, so "up to 3
> times" was quite reasonable. Fucky the you.


20 and 90 are the absolute extremes. 40 and 60-ish would be more realistic weights for the vast majority of ammo actually used.

In any case, the more significant factor than size/weight is the velocity. The .223/5.56 is moving much faster and that's the more important aspect in the equation. i.e., I can toss a basketball to you, no big deal. Take a marble and send it your way at +2,000 ft/sec., and it's a big deal. Send the same 40 g at twice the velocity and it's going to hit with about double the force. No round that you fire from a .22 is going to match the lowest powered .223.

First, let's get this out of the way: fucky the you.

>The bullet itself is comparable.

Not.

>Send the same 40 g at twice the velocity and it's going to hit with about double the force.

A bullet delivers energy, not force, to its target. It is accelerated by the force of the explosion of the powder (F=MA). A .223 round at 100 yards delivers TEN TIMES the energy of a .22 round.

When I want to know what you know, I'll look in the dictionary under "jackshit".

To recap, fucky the you,

Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'm so fucking stupid. I thought they were the
> > same size!
>
>
> The bullet itself is comparable.
>
> But you missed the point that the .223 isnt the
> deadly military round with no equals anywhere else
> in the gun world like people like you want us to
> believe.
>
> I bet you think the military uses them as well


http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/article/about-the-rifle-used-in-the-newtown-school-shooting/index.html



............well..........it's not the military that's the issue here, dumbass.

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Thank you Gordon Blvd for being patient with me. Sometimes I'm not to logical.



Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Liberal Logic102 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I'm so fucking stupid. I thought they were
> the
> > > same size!
> >
> >
> > The bullet itself is comparable.
> >
> > But you missed the point that the .223 isnt the
> > deadly military round with no equals anywhere
> else
> > in the gun world like people like you want us
> to
> > believe.
> >
> > I bet you think the military uses them as well
>
>
> http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/article/ab
> out-the-rifle-used-in-the-newtown-school-shooting/
> index.html
>
>
>
> ............well..........it's not the military
> that's the issue here, dumbass.
>
> pic unrelated

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Liberal Logic102 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I'm so fucking stupid. I thought they were
> the
> > > same size!
> >
> >
> > The bullet itself is comparable.
> >
> > But you missed the point that the .223 isnt the
> > deadly military round with no equals anywhere
> else
> > in the gun world like people like you want us
> to
> > believe.
> >
> > I bet you think the military uses them as well
>
>
> http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/article/ab
> out-the-rifle-used-in-the-newtown-school-shooting/
> index.html
>
>
>
> ............well..........it's not the military
> that's the issue here, dumbass.
>
> pic unrelated


My, what a big brain you have Gordon. Please keep the repetative posting of the same stupid cartoons over and over and over and over and over and over until we're all fast asleep. lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> > Liberal Logic 102 Wrote:
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> > -----
> > > Liberal Logic102 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > I'm so fucking stupid. I thought they were
> > the
> > > > same size!
> > >
> > >
> > > The bullet itself is comparable.
> > >
> > > But you missed the point that the .223 isnt
> the
> > > deadly military round with no equals anywhere
> > else
> > > in the gun world like people like you want us
> > to
> > > believe.
> > >
> > > I bet you think the military uses them as
> well
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/article/ab
>
> >
> out-the-rifle-used-in-the-newtown-school-shooting/
>
> > index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > ............well..........it's not the military
> > that's the issue here, dumbass.
> >
> > pic unrelated
>
>
> My, what a big brain you have Gordon. Please keep
> the repetative posting of the same stupid cartoons
> over and over and over and over and over and over
> until we're all fast asleep.
> lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> zzz
I'm also a chicken shit troll and my basement is starting to flood from the rain.
Please sen a floatation device ASAP!!!
>
> .

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/article/ab
> out-the-rifle-used-in-the-newtown-school-shooting/
> index.html
>
>
>
> ............well..........it's not the military
> that's the issue here, dumbass.


And you prove my point once again. The Miliatry DOES NOT use the rifles in question. In fact no military IN THE WORLD uses them.

But dont let facts get in the way.

The Rifle wasnt even used in the Newton shooting either but you must be a few weeks behind on the news it was in the car

Duh,
The military still uses armalite and colt M 16's that uses the .223/5.56 caliber round. Most NATO countries use automatic rifles with the same caliber.
The US military is replacing M 16's with the M 4's that still uses .223/5.56 rounds.

I'm so stupid. I should join the military and learn my weapons.

Liberal Logic 103 Wrote:
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> Duh,
> The military still uses armalite and colt M 16's
> that uses the .223/5.56 caliber round. Most NATO
> countries use automatic rifles with the same
> caliber.
> The US military is replacing M 16's with the M 4's
> that still uses .223/5.56 rounds.
>
> I'm so stupid. I should join the military and
> learn my weapons.


Must really be hitting a nerve since you keep stealing my name. Once again proving liberals cant handle facts or debate them.

.223 and .556 are not the same rounds, the military uses .556. Civilan AR type rifles are semi automatic military ones are full auto with burst fire capibility and manufactured to much higher standards due to the increase rate of fire.

Please tell me more about weapons you clearly have no idea about. Again not a single military in the world is using the AR rifles gun stores have on their shelves.

You probably also clapped at Obamas line about banoets and horses despite the fact the military still uses those.

Liberal Logic 104 Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 103 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Duh,
> > The military still uses armalite and colt M
> 16's
> > that uses the .223/5.56 caliber round. Most
> NATO
> > countries use automatic rifles with the same
> > caliber.
> > The US military is replacing M 16's with the M
> 4's
> > that still uses .223/5.56 rounds.
> >
> > I'm so stupid. I should join the military and
> > learn my weapons.
>
>
> Must really be hitting a nerve since you keep
> stealing my name. Once again proving liberals
> cant handle facts or debate them.
>
> .223 and .556 are not the same rounds, the
> military uses .556. Civilan AR type rifles are
> semi automatic military ones are full auto with
> burst fire capibility and manufactured to much
> higher standards due to the increase rate of fire.
>
>
> Please tell me more about weapons you clearly have
> no idea about. Again not a single military in the
> world is using the AR rifles gun stores have on
> their shelves.
>
> You probably also clapped at Obamas line about
> banoets and horses despite the fact the military
> still uses those

You are really full of shit.

liberals are stupid Wrote:
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> Keep in mind the .22 he used to kill the guard
> would in all probability not be on the list of
> banned assault weapons due to its small caliber.


He also was a convicted violent felon.

Von Brunn was arrested in 1981 for attempted kidnapping and hostage-taking, of members of the Federal Reserve Board, after approaching the Federal Reserve's Eccles Building armed with a revolver, knife, and sawed-off shotgun.

Liberal Logic 104 Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 103 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
elves.
>
> You probably also clapped at Obamas line about
> banoets and horses despite the fact the military
> still uses those.


Yeah we used them for basic, then they sit in the back of closet. Other than ceremonial display uses, they are not used.

@foznews - dont bother - he still thinks it's the 1760s

Only special ops use modified M4 that fire full auto. The rest of us have a selector switch of safe, single, burst (as in 3 rounds)

Stop comparing a .22 to a .223 or 5.56mm round. You are making yourself look stupid.

We all know that mental health is the issue, not the gun or our constitution.

Put a loaded gun on a table and don't touch it. What happens? Nothing until you put an Adam Lanza in the room with it.

Guns do nothing without human interference. But the guns are the problem?

Sounds a bit ignorant of reality, history, and foresight.

Fucktheleftandtheright Wrote:
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> Only special ops use modified M4 that fire full
> auto. The rest of us have a selector switch of
> safe, single, burst (as in 3 rounds)
>
> Stop comparing a .22 to a .223 or 5.56mm round.
> You are making yourself look stupid.
>
> We all know that mental health is the issue, not
> the gun or our constitution.
>
> Put a loaded gun on a table and don't touch it.
> What happens? Nothing until you put an Adam Lanza
> in the room with it.
>
> Guns do nothing without human interference. But
> the guns are the problem?
>
> Sounds a bit ignorant of reality, history, and
> foresight.


All guns should be full auto...because the dumb asses that go and shoot up theaters will use it, be less accurate and run out of ammo in short order. Much less death in full auto.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @foznews - dont bother - he still thinks it's the
> 1760s


Again full of shoit Gordon, liberals love to try and regulate things they have no clue about. You should let the military know that we no longer use horses in afghanistan particularlly special forces.

You should also go to a LEO convention and give your speech on how to stop crime after you get your parents permission of course

Liberal Logic 104 Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > @foznews - dont bother - he still thinks it's
> the
> > 1760s
>
>
> Again full of shoit Gordon, liberals love to try
> and regulate things they have no clue about. You
> should let the military know that we no longer use
> horses in afghanistan particularlly special
> forces.
>
> You should also go to a LEO convention and give
> your speech on how to stop crime after you get
> your parents permission of course


Please forgive me. I unemployed, live in the basement and I do not make sense. I secretly have a serious crush on Gordon Blvd. and masturbate every time she posts. Please help me.

Liberal Logic 104 Wrote:
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> Liberal Logic 104 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > @foznews - dont bother - he still thinks it's
> > the
> > > 1760s
> >
> >
> > Again full of shoit Gordon, liberals love to
> try
> > and regulate things they have no clue about.
> You
> > should let the military know that we no longer
> use
> > horses in afghanistan particularlly special
> > forces.
> >
> > You should also go to a LEO convention and give
> > your speech on how to stop crime after you get
> > your parents permission of course
>
>
> Please forgive me. I unemployed, live in the
> basement and I do not make sense. I secretly have
> a serious crush on Gordon Blvd. and masturbate
> every time she posts. Please help me.


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