Priapus Wrote:
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> Who cares if gun owner names appear online? If you
> put "I love the NRA" or have a gun rack in your
> truck or a bumper sticker talking about dead, cold
> fingers. Hint, it's not a secret, you have a gun.


Even if you're dumb enough to do that, not really the same as having an aggregated, easily searchable online database with interactive map.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean that it's a good idea. The potential downsides would seem to overshadow any potential benefits to my mind. It's not even particularly effective for the intended purpose since it won't tell you anything about what guns are there or what guns are owned by people without permits which is far more common.

The main purpose appears to be simply to "out" permit holders in a rather lame attempt to embarrass them. Not very effective for that purpose either. The majority of people who have carry permits do so for a reason, whether real or perceived, and they're not going to give them up just because their name is published.

BTW, what's your address?

justmembers Wrote:
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> So what? Publishing this is just publishing a
> list of the members of our 'well regulated
> militia." All the weapons are in the collective
> militia and having their names is presumably a
> manner in which they are regulated (read
> 'accounted for'). So what is the big deal.
>
> Militia members be proud!


Reminds me of a scene early in the original Red Dawn movie, where the invading army is told to go to the courthouse for the gun owners lists so they can be dealt with first.

But back to the OP, what news organization around here is going to risk having the gunners fire back by publishing all the personal details they can find on their employees?

SQL Served Wrote:
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> Priapus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who cares if gun owner names appear online? If
> you
> > put "I love the NRA" or have a gun rack in your
> > truck or a bumper sticker talking about dead,
> cold
> > fingers. Hint, it's not a secret, you have a
> gun.
>
>
> Even if you're dumb enough to do that, not really
> the same as having an aggregated, easily
> searchable online database with interactive map.
>
> Just because you can do something doesn't mean
> that it's a good idea. The potential downsides
> would seem to overshadow any potential benefits to
> my mind. It's not even particularly effective for
> the intended purpose since it won't tell you
> anything about what guns are there or what guns
> are owned by people without permits which is far
> more common.
>
> The main purpose appears to be simply to "out"
> permit holders in a rather lame attempt to
> embarrass them. Not very effective for that
> purpose either. The majority of people who have
> carry permits do so for a reason, whether real or
> perceived, and they're not going to give them up
> just because their name is published.
>
> BTW, what's your address?

It's easy enough to get my home address if you can figure any distinguishing characteristic on my part like child molesting or gun owning.

Amazing what a little research can do....

http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/13394/kaine-bans-publication-of-concealed-carry-permit-holders

Priapus Wrote:
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> It's easy enough to get my home address if you can
> figure any distinguishing characteristic on my
> part like child molesting or gun owning.


Have a drivers permit don't you? Likely some other legal, legitmate, non-criminal records of interaction with state and/or federal government that's technically public info. Might as well post all of it up.

They should put up all of the NFA Class III dealers too. Then the serious bad guys would have an easy reference for where to go for the good shit. I think we'd all feel safer.

Priapus Wrote:
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> I was going to ask why gun owners are so afraid to
> be in the light, but I remembered if they weren't
> scared of everything they wouldn't have a gun. I
> can see the need for a gun if you live in a slum.
> Something to shoot with at the rats gnawing on
> your babies.
> I live in a nice neighborhood. I did my research
> before moving here. I realized someone may want to
> rob me (not assassinate). I got an alarm system. I
> figure the if someone wants to steal, the last
> thing he wants is a lot of noise and the cops
> showing up.
> I realize "to each, his own". If a gun makes you
> feel safe until the criminal gets your gun (which
> is how they get guns), more power to you.
> However, there is the first amendment before the
> second, in order of importance. The government
> can't stop your information from getting out, nor
> should it. Privacy is an illusion nowdays. Like
> conjoined twins, we think we have personal space,
> but it's how we cope in this digital age. if the
> newspapers didn't release the information, some
> anti-gun group would.
> I have no problems wih gun owners. What my
> neighbor does is of no interest to me. If shooting
> empty beer cans makes him a man, go for it.


So writes the dude who's ID is the penis god. Why do you libtards obsess about dicks?

SQL Served Wrote:
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> Just because you can do something doesn't mean
> that it's a good idea. The potential downsides
> would seem to overshadow any potential benefits to
> my mind.

What potential downsides? You mean the gunners getting all upset (since most of them have anger issues) and threatening the paper? No biggie. I'm sure the NY paper knew that was coming. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to be able to predict how gun nuts will react to any given situation.

> The main purpose appears to be simply to "out"
> permit holders in a rather lame attempt to
> embarrass them.

Why would it embarrass them? That doesn't make any sense. People who own guns aren't ashamed of it. They're either neutral and balanced about it (the usual case) or they brag about it constantly because it's all about testosterone and attention. The latter group (represented heavily in this thread) should be happy to have their names published.

I really have no interest in such a list. I just liked that the NY paper did it because it pissed off all these big, tough "men". It would be great if an FFX paper did one for the same reason. :-)

Lawman Wrote:
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> Amazing what a little research can do....
>
> http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/13394/kaine
> -bans-publication-of-concealed-carry-permit-holder
> s

I thought this was a troll thread when the 'local paper' wasn't mentioned. Thanks for confirming.

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

As to publishing the list - put a picture of an American Flag and an eagle or some shit next to the list and they will all think they died and went to Heaven...

How will the gun owners know where to muster if they dont know where one another live? These guns are for the 'militia' the 2nd Amendment refers to arent they?

And, do gun owners really want the Government to be the only one who knows their ranks? The Government? How will anyone know what happened when the Government comes in their black helicopters and 'disappears' them all?

I own a gun as do many liberals\democrats. Do we like the fact that we have to protect ourselves against the conservative Rush world. NO! NO!

Our we NRA card holders? FUCK NO!

The NRA is nothing more than a money making machine for the man. For Christ sake, when has the NRA EVEN been effective in the last 10 years, NEVER!

The real problem is counting. Gun nuts can only count to two. The Constitution has twentyseven amendments. As one gun nut stated in this thread he had more guns than he could count. He owns three.
Most pro gun nuts posting here scream to be heard and recognized. The newspaper may just do that for you. So now your crying about the the attention you may finally recieve. It's kinda cute when someone first gets a CCW permit. They show everyone. I guess you boys will never be happy.
Pride comes with a price.

Counting Constitution Wrote:
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> The real problem is counting. Gun nuts can only
> count to two. The Constitution has twentyseven
> amendments. As one gun nut stated in this thread
> he had more guns than he could count. He owns
> three.
> Most pro gun nuts posting here scream to be heard
> and recognized. The newspaper may just do that
> for you. So now your crying about the the
> attention you may finally recieve. It's kinda cute
> when someone first gets a CCW permit. They show
> everyone. I guess you boys will never be happy.
> Pride comes with a price.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO +1

always about the RIGHTS RIGHTS RIGHTS with them

and NEVER about the RESPONSIBILITY......................

they say "the community gives us this right", then turn right around and say "FUCK THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS" whenever we have a problem instead of working WITH the community to fix the problem :(

FOIA is a double edged sword isn't it? People want to access information about their neighbors but don't want their neighbors to access information about themselves.

Pretty damn funny.

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> always about the RIGHTS RIGHTS RIGHTS with them
>
> and NEVER about the
> RESPONSIBILITY......................
>
> they say "the community gives us this right", then
> turn right around and say "FUCK THE COMMUNITY'S
> CONCERNS" whenever we have a problem instead of
> working WITH the community to fix the problem :(

STFU. You post on here 24/7 which leads me to believe you are on welfare, on some scam disability or still live at home. Or maybe just maybe you are a convicted felon who cannot own a gun and hates the fact others can?

brock t Wrote:
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> Gordon Blvd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > always about the RIGHTS RIGHTS RIGHTS with them
> >
> > and NEVER about the
> > RESPONSIBILITY......................
> >
> > they say "the community gives us this right",
> then
> > turn right around and say "FUCK THE COMMUNITY'S
> > CONCERNS" whenever we have a problem instead of
> > working WITH the community to fix the problem
> :(
>
> STFU. You post on here 24/7 which leads me to
> believe you are on welfare, on some scam
> disability or still live at home. Or maybe just
> maybe you are a convicted felon who cannot own a
> gun and hates the fact others can?

Gordon is definitely not on welfare. She is a stay at home mother who would rather contribute than become a house fraul(ien). May not always agree but keeps this forum lively.

I'm glad everyone here is so eager to dispense with that fake "right of privacy" which Roe vs. Wade invented.

Let's have a public list of people who've had abortions next!

And on rights and responsibilities, I'm all for it! Lets start with the 1st Amendment Rights--that free speech should not include the "right" to use profanity or disseminate smut in a way which harms the "community" (ie. Children).

control freaks Wrote:
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>
> And on rights and responsibilities, I'm all for
> it! Lets start with the 1st Amendment Rights--that
> free speech should not include the "right" to use
> profanity or disseminate smut in a way which harms
> the "community" (ie. Children).


Never gonna happen. Smut and violence in our entertainment is the bread and circuses of the modern American drone-citizen. No need for freedoms unless it's the freedoms to kill your unborn baby, watch porn, smoke weed and collect "free" money and stuff from the dwindling number of producers in this country. History is full of examples. Perhaps the liberals in this country thought America was immune to basic economic principles. Or perhaps they don't care. Either way, this once-great country is going down the road to permanent mediocricy and malaise. But at least the homos can get married. Whew, that goodness for that!

Posters Post, Gun Nuts Cry Wrote:
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> Gordon is definitely not on welfare. She is a stay
> at home mother who would rather contribute than
> become a house fraul(ien). May not always agree
> but keeps this forum lively.


so we can expect "her" to release her full information that she wants from everyone else?

Boys will be glad to know the ACLU will petition to protect your privacy. Ain't that comforting? Nobody will have to know how small you really are.
The American Civil Liberties Union has always fought for the common man. and liberated women.
So don't get your panties all in a bunch.

Less Miserable Wrote:
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> control freaks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > And on rights and responsibilities, I'm all for
> > it! Lets start with the 1st Amendment
> Rights--that
> > free speech should not include the "right" to
> use
> > profanity or disseminate smut in a way which
> harms
> > the "community" (ie. Children).
>
>
> Never gonna happen. Smut and violence in our
> entertainment is the bread and circuses of the
> modern American drone-citizen. No need for
> freedoms unless it's the freedoms to kill your
> unborn baby, watch porn, smoke weed and collect
> "free" money and stuff from the dwindling number
> of producers in this country. History is full of
> examples. Perhaps the liberals in this country
> thought America was immune to basic economic
> principles. Or perhaps they don't care. Either
> way, this once-great country is going down the
> road to permanent mediocricy and malaise. But at
> least the homos can get married. Whew, that
> goodness for that!

Relax,sit back,roll one and enjoy the show.
Pretty naive to think the party would last.

What are you gun owners afraid of? That someone might come after you? Isn't that what you dream about and wish for? A stand-your-ground reason to play cowboys and indians and pull your fraidy-cat trigger like some video game adolescent???? You want it, you got, now deal with it.

Reality Checked Wrote:
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> Please don't make me laugh. This is Fairfax
> County, not the Alaskan Bush country. The most
> land a person might own is 2 acres. You won't ever
> be fighting off bears and wild animals.
>
> First, to be effective you have to your gun on you
> at all times. That would mean carrying it on your
> side at all time. I don't see that happening in
> Fairfax county. No Fairfax county wife in her
> right mind is going to allow that.
>
> Second, in Fairfax county you're more likely to
> use the gun for one of the following:
>
> a) Your own suicide.
> b) Shooting a family member by accident.
> c) A murder suicide.
> d) Shooting yourself in the foot while cleaning
> it.
>
> Combine that with the astigmatism that gun
> ownership has in Fairfax county and who needs that
> hassle.

YOU FAIL: I carry my gun all the time, and my wife loves it. It makes her feel safe, something she hasn't always felt.

YOU FAIL: Your list of "more likely" scenarios is bullshit. In Virginia there has been an increase in gun sales (63% over the last 5 years), and the decrease in violent crime (-24% in the last 5 years, the lowest in 20 years).

YOU FAIL: there is not astigmatism of gun ownership. According to Gallup, more than 50% of the population approves of gun ownership, and more than 58% say they think positively about the NRA.

Pretty much your entire post makes about as much sense as fornicating a cat.

Lawman Wrote:
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> Amazing what a little research can do....
>
> http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/13394/kaine
> -bans-publication-of-concealed-carry-permit-holder
> s



Since we have a number of people here who are too lazy to click your link
I'll post the text. Thanks for posting.



Kaine bans publication of concealed carry permit holders
March 31, 2009 | by John Winebarger, CT news staff writer
Gov. Tim Kaine signed a bill last week that removes a State Police database of concealed weapon permit holders from public access in Virginia.

The bill protects "from public disclosure permittee names and descriptive information held by the Department of State Police for purposes of entry into the Virginia Criminal Information Network," according the bill's summary statement.

According to the text of the bill, the personal information of the permittees will only be available to police personnel for the purpose of investigation. Only general statistical information would be available to the public.

The bill was introduced by David Nutter, a delegate from House district 7, and signed by Kaine on March 27.

The bill largely came about after the Roanoke Times legally obtained the database of permittees from the Department of State Police and published it to its Web site in what they described as "an illustration of the Freedom of Information Act." An almost immediate outcry from permit holders caused them to quickly change their minds.

A staff editorial by the Roanoke Times in fact described hearing from thousands of people in the two weeks following the publication of the database, some raising rational objections, others responding with "personal threats of violence and acts of intimidation."

In response to a request for comment, Karenna Glover of the Roanoke Times forwarded a pre-written statement.

"The Roanoke Times admits it made some mistakes and apologizes for potentially putting some individuals at risk by publishing a database of concealed handgun permit holders," the statement said.

Also in the statement, Debbie Meade, president and publisher of the Roanoke Times, said they "did not give sufficient thought to the possibility that the safety of certain individuals on the list, like law enforcement officials and crime victims, could potentially be compromised."

Nutter's office also received complaints from constituents after the publishing of the database.

Shortly after the database was removed, Attorney General Bob McDonnell issued an opinion agreeing with opponents of the database and he closed access to the list. That opinion was followed with agreement from Virginia's Freedom of Information Advisory Council, which recommended his opinion be codified into the Code of Virginia. From there, the bill was written and Nutter carried it to the General Assembly.

"I carried this legislation because many of my constituents were harmed by the Roanoke Times' reckless actions, and I felt we needed a permanent solution to the problem," explained Nutter in the statement from his office. "The Code of Virginia needed to be amended to protect law-abiding citizens from being harassed and exposed to attack."

Virginia Tech campus representatives of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus are firm supporters of the bill as well and believe that the database is a violation of privacy.

"There is no need whatsoever for public access to the database of permit holders. A great number of people decide to get permits because they have been threatened or even mugged in the past. ... It is often the public with access to these databases who abuse it the most," said Alyson Boyce, Tech's SCCC campus leader.

Ken Stanton, the creator of Tech's SCCC chapter, agreed, describing the publication by the Roanoke Times as "an example of how the information can be abused publicly."

Some believe the public should retain access to the information of permittees for a variety of reasons.

Ladd Everett of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence believed that one should be able to audit the database to make sure judges adequately screen applicants and also hold permit holders accountable for their criminal record after receiving the permit.

"There is freedom of information in a democracy. ... I would want to find out as a member of the public. What about someone who lives down the street? What about kids hanging out at other parents' houses? ... Do I want to be aware of that information? Definitely," Everett said.

Everett, Boyce and Stanton agreed, however, that the best approach might be in finding equilibrium between the right to know and the right to privacy.

"Perhaps there is a way to maintain checks and balances but not allow for open, public posting of permit holders' names and addresses," Stanton said.

Muster Wrote:
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> How will the gun owners know where to muster if
> they dont know where one another live? These guns
> are for the 'militia' the 2nd Amendment refers to
> arent they?
> And, do gun owners really want the Government to
> be the only one who knows their ranks? The
> Government? How will anyone know what happened
> when the Government comes in their black
> helicopters and 'disappears' them all?

The Governor has the authority to summon the Militia and issue orders.

Sique Wrote:
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> Priapus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I was going to ask why gun owners are so afraid
> to
> > be in the light, but I remembered if they
> weren't
> > scared of everything they wouldn't have a gun.
> I
> > can see the need for a gun if you live in a
> slum.
> > Something to shoot with at the rats gnawing on
> > your babies.
> > I live in a nice neighborhood. I did my
> research
> > before moving here. I realized someone may want
> to
> > rob me (not assassinate). I got an alarm system.
> I
> > figure the if someone wants to steal, the last
> > thing he wants is a lot of noise and the cops
> > showing up.
> > I realize "to each, his own". If a gun makes
> you
> > feel safe until the criminal gets your gun
> (which
> > is how they get guns), more power to you.
> > However, there is the first amendment before
> the
> > second, in order of importance. The government
> > can't stop your information from getting out,
> nor
> > should it. Privacy is an illusion nowdays. Like
> > conjoined twins, we think we have personal
> space,
> > but it's how we cope in this digital age. if
> the
> > newspapers didn't release the information, some
> > anti-gun group would.
> > I have no problems wih gun owners. What my
> > neighbor does is of no interest to me. If
> shooting
> > empty beer cans makes him a man, go for it.
>
>
> So writes the dude who's ID is the penis god. Why
> do you libtards obsess about dicks?

It's called Penis Envy.

We needs our guns in Virginny to fight the Union Blues when theys comes across the Shendoah Ribber. We is still fighting the War of Misunderstanding, isn't we?

P.S. War is over, y'all lost. Take your guns, go home, and shoot some squirrels for dinner.

Gannett CEO
Gracia C Martore
728 Springvale Rd
Great Falls, VA 22066
(703) 759 5954

Third world types have take over Gannett.

This is the 21st Century. Live with it. Deal with it.

Kurt Whitewash
7734 Backwards Ass Avenue
Whitebread America

Mosin Wrote:
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> Lawman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Amazing what a little research can do....
> >
> >
> http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/13394/kaine
>
> >
> -bans-publication-of-concealed-carry-permit-holder
>
> > s
>
>
>
> Since we have a number of people here who are too
> lazy to click your link
> I'll post the text. Thanks for posting.


They clicked it and know what is says, but keep trolling along anyway. Kaine, of all people, banned the publication of CCW permit holders.

-------------------------------------------------
“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

Bill S. Wrote:
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> YOU FAIL: I carry my gun all the time, and my wife
> loves it. It makes her feel safe, something she
> hasn't always felt.

It's a shame she doesn't feel safe with just you, without the gun. Guess she doesn't think you're much of a man.

> In Virginia there has been an increase
> in gun sales (63% over the last 5 years), and the
> decrease in violent crime (-24% in the last 5
> years, the lowest in 20 years).

Leave it to a Rambo wannabe to not be aware that correlation doesn't equal causation. If it did, we could easily conclude that gun ownership increases crime by comparing gun ownership and crime rates between the U.S. and, say, anywhere in Europe or Asia. So be glad that reality is more difficult and intricate than your lil' mind likes to think. :-)

EDIT: Couldn't resist: Just for some edumication for the Rambos, here's Dane Bramage viewed through an "astigmatism":





Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2013 02:18PM by Kilton.

Bill S. Wrote:
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> Reality Checked Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Please don't make me laugh. This is Fairfax
> > County, not the Alaskan Bush country. The most
> > land a person might own is 2 acres. You won't
> ever
> > be fighting off bears and wild animals.
> >
> > First, to be effective you have to your gun on
> you
> > at all times. That would mean carrying it on
> your
> > side at all time. I don't see that happening
> in
> > Fairfax county. No Fairfax county wife in her
> > right mind is going to allow that.
> >
> > Second, in Fairfax county you're more likely to
> > use the gun for one of the following:
> >
> > a) Your own suicide.
> > b) Shooting a family member by accident.
> > c) A murder suicide.
> > d) Shooting yourself in the foot while cleaning
> > it.
> >
> > Combine that with the astigmatism that gun
> > ownership has in Fairfax county and who needs
> that
> > hassle.
>
> YOU FAIL: I carry my gun all the time, and my wife
> loves it. It makes her feel safe, something she
> hasn't always felt.
>
> YOU FAIL: Your list of "more likely" scenarios is
> bullshit. In Virginia there has been an increase
> in gun sales (63% over the last 5 years), and the
> decrease in violent crime (-24% in the last 5
> years, the lowest in 20 years).
>
> YOU FAIL: there is not astigmatism of gun
> ownership. According to Gallup, more than 50% of
> the population approves of gun ownership, and more
> than 58% say they think positively about the NRA.
>
> Pretty much your entire post makes about as much
> sense as fornicating a cat.

Just to clear this up:

Astigmatism is an optical defect in which vision is blurred due to the inability of the optics of the eye to focus a point object into a sharp focused image on the retina. The libtard meant to use the word "stigma". He is a pussy, so we overlook his 'too smart by half' blunders. But we shouldn't repeat them.

Professor Peabody Wrote:
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> Just to clear this up:
>
> Astigmatism is an optical defect in which vision
> is blurred due to the inability of the optics of
> the eye to focus a point object into a sharp
> focused image on the retina. The libtard meant to
> use the word "stigma". He is a pussy, so we
> overlook his 'too smart by half' blunders. But we
> shouldn't repeat them.

True enough, but I figured I would keep it to his level so he "might" understand it. Thanks for the catch though.

Kilton Wrote:
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> It's a shame she doesn't feel safe with just you,
> without the gun. Guess she doesn't think you're
> much of a man.

I reject for flame baiting. If you like however, we can meet somewhere and have a discussion about my manhood. Barring that, STFU

> Leave it to a Rambo wannabe to not be aware that
> correlation doesn't equal causation.

Going under that logic, then there is also no correlation between guns and crime at ?

> If it did, we
> could easily conclude that gun ownership increases
> crime by comparing gun ownership and crime rates
> between the U.S. and, say, anywhere in Europe or
> Asia. So be glad that reality is more difficult
> and intricate than your lil' mind likes to think.
> :-)

For your little mind, I will make it simple. In the uk there are 11,326 violent offenses per 100,000 and in the US there are 4,118 per 100,000 people.

Sure, there may be less GUN offenses in the UK, but really, who cares what you are assaulted with....

Another FAIL. Klingon, do some research before you spout off about what you do not know about.

Let me help, start with Http//google.com

Kilton Wrote:
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> SQL Served Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just because you can do something doesn't mean
> > that it's a good idea. The potential downsides
> > would seem to overshadow any potential benefits
> to
> > my mind.
>
> What potential downsides? You mean the gunners
> getting all upset (since most of them have anger
> issues) and threatening the paper? No biggie. I'm
> sure the NY paper knew that was coming. It doesn't
> take a brain surgeon to be able to predict how gun
> nuts will react to any given situation.
>
> > The main purpose appears to be simply to "out"
> > permit holders in a rather lame attempt to
> > embarrass them.
>
> Why would it embarrass them? That doesn't make any
> sense. People who own guns aren't ashamed of it.
> They're either neutral and balanced about it (the
> usual case) or they brag about it constantly
> because it's all about testosterone and attention.
> The latter group (represented heavily in this
> thread) should be happy to have their names
> published.
>
> I really have no interest in such a list. I just
> liked that the NY paper did it because it pissed
> off all these big, tough "men". It would be great
> if an FFX paper did one for the same reason. :-)


As I said, and as you clearly demonstrate in your posts which reflect the same vindictive idiocy, it was done for no other reason than in a rather lame attempt to "shame" gun owners. Again, it's not even very effective at that. Despite your attempts to characterize all gun owners as ignorant wannabe "men" seeking penis extensions, the reality is that's not the case. People who have permits have them for a variety of legitimate reasons. In fact, about 25% of permits in most states now are held by women and they represent the fastest growing group for newly issued permits. In most jurisdictions which report such info black and multi-racial women are the fastest growing group.

In any case, your "men" issues appear to go far beyond this...

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Re: Idiot motorcycles and high-beams
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: October 04, 2010 12:55PM

"Riders" don't make their motorcycles loud to increase awareness. They do it for the same reason ricers rig up their Civics to be loud, or the same reason people buy Mustangs -- they have an inner need to feel "manly" and get attention. The more people who are looking at them, the cooler and more validated they feel. These are people who on some level were ignored by their parents during childhood, hence their need for attention as adults.


Re: Window Tint
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: October 25, 2010 01:59PM

I've spent much time in Florida. Tint isn't "everywhere" by any stretch of the imagination. Sure, it's more popular in sunny areas, but that doesn't mean it's due to functionality. It's a lot easier for "men" to justify window-tinting to their wives in sunny areas.


Re: Window Tint
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: October 22, 2010 01:03PM

Yep, that's why people drive gigantic dopey-looking trucks like the Ridgeline -- because they're secure in their masculinity. You totally nailed it. :-)


Re: Backing into parking spaces
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: December 02, 2010 11:39AM

The reason, quite frankly, is that it makes them feel like "men".
You'll hardly ever see a woman backing into a spot -- it's a "man
thing", like motorcycling, ricing, using oversized wheels, manual
transmissions, etc. All of these things make men feel manly.


Re: 1 inch of Snow Expected - Cancel Schools Now!
Posted by: Kilton ()
Date: January 20, 2011 10:25AM

LOL. All the "men" will be raising their windshield wipers tonight.

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So much rage against so many things... Redskins fans, people who drive in the left lane, MD drivers, smokers, etc., etc. And that was just looking quickly through about the first few pages of your posts and being selective. What is it Kilton? Daddy issues? "Little man" syndrome?

Ummm, what's your address? We definitely need to put some kinda a dot there. All it would take is for one of your neighbors to back into a parking space or flick a cig butt out of the window to light that short fuse of yours and we could have an "incident."

;-) lulz

Ironic, you post the names of people who own guns then you get upset when someone posts your name so you hire an armed guard.

Same as those two fattie liberals, Rosie I never met a doughnut I didnt like Odonnell and Michael fourth helping Moore. They see no need for anyone to own a guy except they also had bodyguards.

Bill S wrote:
>
> YOU FAIL: I carry my gun all the time, and my wife
> loves it. It makes her feel safe, something she
> hasn't always felt.
>
> YOU FAIL: Your list of "more likely" scenarios is
> bullshit. In Virginia there has been an increase
> in gun sales (63% over the last 5 years), and the
> decrease in violent crime (-24% in the last 5
> years, the lowest in 20 years).
>
> YOU FAIL: there is not astigmatism of gun
> ownership. According to Gallup, more than 50% of
> the population approves of gun ownership, and more
> than 58% say they think positively about the NRA.
>
> Pretty much your entire post makes about as much
> sense as fornicating a cat.



Your wife only feels comfortable when you're carrying?
Sorry Billy, but that is pathetic. But I will give you credit for admitting your inadequacies.
Maybe you sould refrain from calling others pussies.

Packing isn't always carrying Wrote:
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> Bill S wrote:
> >
> > YOU FAIL: I carry my gun all the time, and my
> wife
> > loves it. It makes her feel safe, something
> she
> > hasn't always felt.
> >
> > YOU FAIL: Your list of "more likely" scenarios
> is
> > bullshit. In Virginia there has been an
> increase
> > in gun sales (63% over the last 5 years), and
> the
> > decrease in violent crime (-24% in the last 5
> > years, the lowest in 20 years).
> >
> > YOU FAIL: there is not astigmatism of gun
> > ownership. According to Gallup, more than 50%
> of
> > the population approves of gun ownership, and
> more
> > than 58% say they think positively about the
> NRA.
> >
> > Pretty much your entire post makes about as
> much
> > sense as fornicating a cat.
>
>
>
> Your wife only feels comfortable when you're
> carrying?
> Sorry Billy, but that is pathetic. But I will give
> you credit for admitting your inadequacies.
> Maybe you sould refrain from calling others
> pussies.

Sorry about the pussy remark. You never wrote it.
But a litte pussy isn't always the cat.

Bill S. Wrote:
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> Going under that logic, then there is also no
> correlation between guns and crime at ?

Yes dummy, that's precisely the point. Trying to draw conclusions from correlations in data like this is utterly pointless. Just as you can find countries with lower gun ownership and higher crime rates, I can find countries with lower gun ownership and lower crime rates. So conclusions about the effect of gun ownership on crime rates are impossible to draw based on high level data like this.

So when some idiot like Bill S. (oops, that's you!) comes along and tries to claim that guns reduce crime by saying something like "In Virginia there has been an increase in gun sales (63% over the last 5 years), and the decrease in violent crime (-24% in the last 5 years, the lowest in 20 years)", you can be assured that he's one of the dullest knives in the drawer. :-)

SQL Served Wrote:
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> Despite your
> attempts to characterize all gun owners as
> ignorant wannabe "men" seeking penis extensions,

Actually I've repeatedly said the opposite -- that there are the normal, common gun owners who you don't hear from, and then there are the testosterone-starved Rambo wannabe gun nuts like Dane and Ralph who constantly have to brag about their manly weaponry. Do you happen to build your databases out of strawmen? :-)

> So much rage against so many things... Redskins
> fans, people who drive in the left lane, MD
> drivers, smokers, etc., etc. And that was just
> looking quickly through about the first few pages
> of your posts and being selective.

The "first few pages" go all the way back to 2010? You sure about that? LOL.

I must say, I'm impressed that you just read the last 2+ years of my posting history. It's nice to know that I have fans. You're not the first on FFU to become obsessed with me, and you certainly won't be the last. :-)

@kilton - it's so important to know how you've been using the interwebz for 2 years. LoLz

my favorite is how important it is to point out how you've DARE to have an opinion on topics - SUCH ANGER!!! >8(


gotta LOVE the logic here:
words=scary
hand-held machine designed SOLELY to take human lives=ok

Move to mexico GB, I hear they limit private ownership of fireams and crime is almost non existent. Drop a post card let us know how it all works out for you. Mañana

@southbound- Mañana? not too sure why you put that on the end of yr sentence there..............but whateves.

anywho, not too sure what yr point is......................

Why a revolver just isn't enough:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/

Wonder if the break-in would have occurred if she was on a gun owner list. Probably so, it doesn't look like he's much good at reading.

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

that is a HILARIOUS story!!!

I wonder if the dude knew they were in there or if he just got a BIG SURPRISE (man, I hope it was the latter LoLz)

My wife and I each hold CCW permits, and we are self confessed, unapolagetic liberal democrats and members of the Liberal Gun Club. Bring on the list, I am not ashamed to have my name in print. Where is the list?

Not every gun owner is a conservative NRA nut job. What is the legitimate purpose of a fully automatic assault rifle when a semi-auto can fire rounds fast enough to kill anyone? The NRA is opposed to any and all gun control, but the Liberal Gun Club supports common sense gun control.

Kilton Wrote:
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> SQL Served Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Despite your
> > attempts to characterize all gun owners as
> > ignorant wannabe "men" seeking penis
> extensions,
>
> Actually I've repeatedly said the opposite -- that
> there are the normal, common gun owners who you
> don't hear from, and then there are the
> testosterone-starved Rambo wannabe gun nuts like
> Dane and Ralph who constantly have to brag about
> their manly weaponry. Do you happen to build your
> databases out of strawmen? :-)


Just call 'em like I see 'em little man. Don't see you making any distinctions.


>
> > So much rage against so many things... Redskins
> > fans, people who drive in the left lane, MD
> > drivers, smokers, etc., etc. And that was just
> > looking quickly through about the first few
> pages
> > of your posts and being selective.
>
> The "first few pages" go all the way back to 2010?
> You sure about that? LOL.
>
> I must say, I'm impressed that you just read the
> last 2+ years of my posting history. It's nice to
> know that I have fans. You're not the first on FFU
> to become obsessed with me, and you certainly
> won't be the last. :-)


Uh, there's a last button. Takes you right to the start (reverse ordered). Didn't take reading more than a few pages to see that you walked in the door with the same issues re "men." What's truly impressive is that you've continued to post this same crap for two years now. Obviously some deep-seated stuff going on there.

Had I been more interested I could have done a simple search as below.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=site:fairfaxunderground.com+Kilton+%22men%22

Dude! Whoa!

I was just fucking with you before since you're such a smug, annoying little asshole but now that I did I'm actually kinda concerned. 5,500 hits for Kilton and "men"??? Granted some are N/A and dupes but we can divide by ten and that shit still is a looooong left-lane hoggin', Harley-ridin', butt-flickin-out-of-tinted-windows ride from this side of normal.

;-) lulz

(Seriously, you might want to talk to somebody.)

"What is the legitimate purpose of a fully automatic assault rifle when a semi-auto can fire rounds fast enough to kill anyone"

Just how many people do you know that have full auto weapons and how many times have you even heard of a full auto being used in a crime recently. I call BS on your post.

alabama man Wrote:
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> "What is the legitimate purpose of a fully
> automatic assault rifle when a semi-auto can fire
> rounds fast enough to kill anyone"
>

The crux of the point of the arguments on guns is, stop trying to tell people what to do, what they can own and why. If you tried to outlaw paper clips (or soda or cigarettes) you would get the same response. It isn't about the what, it's the how and why. Leave people alone, enforce the laws on the books, and hold people responsible for their own actions. If the govt did those things, America would be a fucking Utopia.


> Just how many people do you know that have full
> auto weapons and how many times have you even
> heard of a full auto being used in a crime
> recently. I call BS on your post.

I know several people with full auto weapons but I am a member of multiple gun ranges. None are used in crimes. Full auto weapons cost more than most cars.

alabama man Wrote:
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> "What is the legitimate purpose of a fully
> automatic assault rifle when a semi-auto can fire
> rounds fast enough to kill anyone"
>
> Just how many people do you know that have full
> auto weapons and how many times have you even
> heard of a full auto being used in a crime
> recently. I call BS on your post.

Have you ever explored Fern Cave?

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alabama man Wrote:
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> Just how many people do you know that have full auto weapons

A fair number of people... There are lots of them, and Fairfax County
is actually one of the hotspots for machine gun ownership in the country.


> and how many times have you even heard of a full auto being
> used in a crime recently.

No legally possessed automatic weapon has been used in a crime
in the USA since they started regulating them (e.g. Al Capone days).

Well, I do recall one machine gun crime.
It was "legally" in his possession because he was a COP!

Unlike all the handguns and long guns, the BATF actually does
know where all the machine guns are located. You have to apply
a few months in advance for a permit to move them around.
Quite the fucking hassle every time you want to go to a
machine gun shoot in another state!

It's interesting that you can get gun owner license info but I can't get driver's license info. Seems like you would have the same interest in knowing if your neighbor has a license to drive their car down your neighborhood streets.

trogdor! Wrote:
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> It's interesting that you can get gun owner
> license info but I can't get driver's license
> info. Seems like you would have the same interest
> in knowing if your neighbor has a license to drive
> their car down your neighborhood streets.


I'm also interested how many times you've been treated for std. Start cracking that case, Perry mason

SQL Served Wrote:
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> Had I been more interested I could have done a
> simple search as below.
>
> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&s
> client=psy-ab&q=site:fairfaxunderground.com+Kilton
> +%22men%22

LOL, great search there Einstein. So any thread that I've posted in which has the word "men" somewhere in it counts as a hit. Plus all the dups. You know you've come across a great search query when you immediately have to caveat it with "Well we can probably drop 90% of the hits due to them being N/A, but...". Stick with the DBs and leave the clever stuff to people who actually know what they're doing. No wonder you use SQL, lightweight. :-)

> I was just fucking with you before since you're
> such a smug, annoying little asshole

And here we come to the crux of it. My posts are pissing you off to the point where you've become obsessed with me. You've looked through my entire FFU post history, and even Googled me. But I don't mind! You're not my first FFU stalker. I just have that effect on certain types of people. I hope you continue to enjoy the show. :-)

Kilton Wrote:
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> SQL Served Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Had I been more interested I could have done a
> > simple search as below.
> >
> >
> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&s
>
> >
> client=psy-ab&q=site:fairfaxunderground.com+Kilton
>
> > +%22men%22
>
> LOL, great search there Einstein. So any thread
> that I've posted in which has the word "men"
> somewhere in it counts as a hit. Plus all the
> dups. You know you've come across a great search
> query when you immediately have to caveat it with
> "Well we can probably drop 90% of the hits due to
> them being N/A, but...". Stick with the DBs and
> leave the clever stuff to people who actually know
> what they're doing. No wonder you use SQL,
> lightweight. :-)
>
> > I was just fucking with you before since you're
> > such a smug, annoying little asshole
>
> And here we come to the crux of it. My posts are
> pissing you off to the point where you've become
> obsessed with me. You've looked through my entire
> FFU post history, and even Googled me. But I don't
> mind! You're not my first FFU stalker. I just have
> that effect on certain types of people. I hope you
> continue to enjoy the show. :-)



Maybe you have a secret admirer. Just remember they might be armed and dangerous.

Love and a .45 Wrote:
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> Kilton Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SQL Served Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Had I been more interested I could have done
> a
> > > simple search as below.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&s
>
> >
> > >
> >
> client=psy-ab&q=site:fairfaxunderground.com+Kilton
>
> >
> > > +%22men%22
> >
> > LOL, great search there Einstein. So any thread
> > that I've posted in which has the word "men"
> > somewhere in it counts as a hit. Plus all the
> > dups. You know you've come across a great
> search
> > query when you immediately have to caveat it
> with
> > "Well we can probably drop 90% of the hits due
> to
> > them being N/A, but...". Stick with the DBs and
> > leave the clever stuff to people who actually
> know
> > what they're doing. No wonder you use SQL,
> > lightweight. :-)
> >
> > > I was just fucking with you before since
> you're
> > > such a smug, annoying little asshole
> >
> > And here we come to the crux of it. My posts
> are
> > pissing you off to the point where you've
> become
> > obsessed with me. You've looked through my
> entire
> > FFU post history, and even Googled me. But I
> don't
> > mind! You're not my first FFU stalker. I just
> have
> > that effect on certain types of people. I hope
> you
> > continue to enjoy the show. :-)
>
>
>
> Maybe you have a secret admirer. Just remember
> they might be armed and dangerous.


Kilton is cool. Don't always agree but respect the posts.

Kilton Wrote:
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> SQL Served Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Had I been more interested I could have done a
> > simple search as below.
> >
> >
> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&s
>
> >
> client=psy-ab&q=site:fairfaxunderground.com+Kilton
>
> > +%22men%22
>
> LOL, great search there Einstein. So any thread
> that I've posted in which has the word "men"
> somewhere in it counts as a hit. Plus all the
> dups. You know you've come across a great search
> query when you immediately have to caveat it with
> "Well we can probably drop 90% of the hits due to
> them being N/A, but...". Stick with the DBs and
> leave the clever stuff to people who actually know
> what they're doing. No wonder you use SQL,
> lightweight. :-)


Like I said, divide by 10 and you've still got a problem.

Recognition is the first step bro.


> > I was just fucking with you before since you're
> > such a smug, annoying little asshole
>
> And here we come to the crux of it. My posts are
> pissing you off to the point where you've become
> obsessed with me. You've looked through my entire
> FFU post history, and even Googled me. But I don't
> mind! You're not my first FFU stalker. I just have
> that effect on certain types of people. I hope you
> continue to enjoy the show. :-)

While I appreciate (and fully expected) that you'd think that it's all about you, truth be told, it's just somewhat entertaining when bored to screw with easy targets like you. Just one of many, sorry to disappoint. You're a meme. Right down to your use of the ":-)" at the end of your posts as a crutch to make them appear more witty than they actually are. Really doesn't take much to figure you out. As anyone who clicks above can see for themselves without looking any further.

Now stay from me nut job, you scare me.

:-) lulz

LxC9J Wrote:
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> No legally possessed automatic weapon has been
> used in a crime
> in the USA since they started regulating them
> (e.g. Al Capone days).

Umm... you better check your sources or what you consider a crime. That's complete BS.

The problem is you have liberals wanting to regulate something they know little to nothing about. I have yet to hear one of them state what exactly is an "assault weapon". The truth is there is no exact description. Its just a buzzword thought up by the media.

I hear people say they are ok with hunting rifles but in some peoples hands a hunting rifle, bolt action with scope, can be more deadly than a AR15 knockoff with a 30rd mag.

The Waco Kid Wrote:
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> LxC9J Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No legally possessed automatic weapon has been
> > used in a crime
> > in the USA since they started regulating them
> > (e.g. Al Capone days).
>
> Umm... you better check your sources or what you
> consider a crime. That's complete BS.

The reason automatic weapons require regulation is to keep them out of the hands of trolls who refer to themselves as Waco Kids.

atom smasher Wrote:
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> The problem is you have liberals wanting to
> regulate something they know little to nothing
> about. I have yet to hear one of them state what
> exactly is an "assault weapon". The truth is there
> is no exact description. Its just a buzzword
> thought up by the media.
>
> I hear people say they are ok with hunting rifles
> but in some peoples hands a hunting rifle, bolt
> action with scope, can be more deadly than a AR15
> knockoff with a 30rd mag.

Fucking liberals wouldn't know the business end of a rifle. And definitley wouldn't know the differance between the M16 and some plastic ar-15 that those gun crazies think are so cool. What real man would own a knock off?
Why would Retired Senator James Webb be associated with such libitards? A highly decorated Vietnam Vet could be so stupid and join the Democratic Party.
Damn liberals.

SQL Served Wrote:
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> Kilton Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SQL Served Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Had I been more interested I could have done
> a
> > > simple search as below.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&s
>
> >
> > >
> >
> client=psy-ab&q=site:fairfaxunderground.com+Kilton
>
> >
> > > +%22men%22
> >
> > LOL, great search there Einstein. So any thread
> > that I've posted in which has the word "men"
> > somewhere in it counts as a hit. Plus all the
> > dups. You know you've come across a great
> search
> > query when you immediately have to caveat it
> with
> > "Well we can probably drop 90% of the hits due
> to
> > them being N/A, but...". Stick with the DBs and
> > leave the clever stuff to people who actually
> know
> > what they're doing. No wonder you use SQL,
> > lightweight. :-)
>
>
> Like I said, divide by 10 and you've still got a
> problem.
>
> Recognition is the first step bro.
>
>
> > > I was just fucking with you before since
> you're
> > > such a smug, annoying little asshole
> >
> > And here we come to the crux of it. My posts
> are
> > pissing you off to the point where you've
> become
> > obsessed with me. You've looked through my
> entire
> > FFU post history, and even Googled me. But I
> don't
> > mind! You're not my first FFU stalker. I just
> have
> > that effect on certain types of people. I hope
> you
> > continue to enjoy the show. :-)
>
> While I appreciate (and fully expected) that you'd
> think that it's all about you, truth be told, it's
> just somewhat entertaining when bored to screw
> with easy targets like you. Just one of many,
> sorry to disappoint. You're a meme. Right down
> to your use of the ":-)" at the end of your posts
> as a crutch to make them appear more witty than
> they actually are. Really doesn't take much to
> figure you out. As anyone who clicks above can
> see for themselves without looking any further.
>
> Now stay from me nut job, you scare me.
>
> :-) lulz

Do you spend every Saturday afternoon researching posters. Why don't you try stalking? You could get a little exercise and fresh air.

atom smasher Wrote:
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> The problem is you have liberals wanting to
> regulate something they know little to nothing
> about. I have yet to hear one of them state what
> exactly is an "assault weapon". The truth is there
> is no exact description. Its just a buzzword
> thought up by the media.

The first accounts that I can recall of the term "assault weapon" being misconstrued came straight from the Violence Policy Center/ Handgun Control
Inc. before the old assault weapons ban was passed. The liberal media is taking their cues from them. WillyBoy Clinton wanted to call everything an "assault
weapon".



> I hear people say they are ok with hunting rifles
> but in some peoples hands a hunting rifle, bolt
> action with scope, can be more deadly than a AR15
> knockoff with a 30rd mag.

I have a friend who can shoot a hair out of a gnats ass at 500 yards
with a 30-06. (Bolt action Winchester Model 70)

Ballistics Wrote:
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> atom smasher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The problem is you have liberals wanting to
> > regulate something they know little to nothing
> > about. I have yet to hear one of them state
> what
> > exactly is an "assault weapon". The truth is
> there
> > is no exact description. Its just a buzzword
> > thought up by the media.
>
> The first accounts that I can recall of the term
> "assault weapon" being misconstrued came straight
> from the Violence Policy Center/ Handgun Control
> Inc. before the old assault weapons ban was
> passed. The liberal media is taking their cues
> from them. WillyBoy Clinton wanted to call
> everything an "assault
> weapon".
>
>
>
> > I hear people say they are ok with hunting
> rifles
> > but in some peoples hands a hunting rifle, bolt
> > action with scope, can be more deadly than a
> AR15
> > knockoff with a 30rd mag.
>
> I have a friend who can shoot a hair out of a
> gnats ass at 500 yards
> with a 30-06. (Bolt action Winchester Model 70)


What did the gnat do to warrant such a response?
Who examined the deceased's ass to find which hair was removed?
You gun nuts are just so wild and crazy.

The anal "assault" of a gnat Wrote:
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> Ballistics Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > atom smasher Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The problem is you have liberals wanting to
> > > regulate something they know little to
> nothing
> > > about. I have yet to hear one of them state
> > what
> > > exactly is an "assault weapon". The truth is
> > there
> > > is no exact description. Its just a buzzword
> > > thought up by the media.
> >
> > The first accounts that I can recall of the
> term
> > "assault weapon" being misconstrued came
> straight
> > from the Violence Policy Center/ Handgun Control
>
> > Inc. before the old assault weapons ban was
> > passed. The liberal media is taking their cues
> > from them. WillyBoy Clinton wanted to call
> > everything an "assault
> > weapon".
> >
> >
> >
> > > I hear people say they are ok with hunting
> > rifles
> > > but in some peoples hands a hunting rifle,
> bolt
> > > action with scope, can be more deadly than a
> > AR15
> > > knockoff with a 30rd mag.
> >
> > I have a friend who can shoot a hair out of a
> > gnats ass at 500 yards
> > with a 30-06. (Bolt action Winchester Model 70)
>
>
> What did the gnat do to warrant such a response?
> Who examined the deceased's ass to find which hair
> was removed?
> You gun nuts are just so wild and crazy.


I 'm a professional gnat hunter and the Winchester 70 chambered in 30odd6 is plain ass to small for insects. My prefered choice for targeting them nasties is CZ 550 chmbered for .585 round. I use Weaterby ammo. We have to maintain the gnat species or they might overpopulate the earth.
Good shooting boys!

SQL Served Wrote:
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> Right down to your use of the ":-)" at the end of
> your posts as a crutch to make them appear more
> witty than they actually are.

Uh oh -- noticing every little detail of my posts! Another sign of an obsession gone wild. I have to hand it to you -- I've never had an FFU stalker repeatedly out himself so often (and so quickly) before. Usually it takes a little time before the obsession becomes clear. But with you it's been immediate -- in the span of 3 posts you've looked through my entire post history, researched me on Google, and now you're noticing details about my posts that even I don't think about. I can't imagine what will be next. :-)

> it's just somewhat entertaining when bored to screw
> with easy targets like you. Just one of many

Many? Sounds like you're bored pretty often. Sorry to hear life is so dull for you. I'm sure things will pick up at some point. At the very least, I have no doubt your DB career will take off. All you need to do is spend as much time thinking about databases as you've spent thinking about me over the last few days. Do that for a while and I have no doubt that the likes of Amazon and Google will be banging down your door to hire you. :-)

The anal "assault" of a gnat Wrote:
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> What did the gnat do to warrant such a response?
> Who examined the deceased's ass to find which hair
> was removed?
> You gun nuts are just so wild and crazy.

Gun nuts are the best. Not only do they brag about their own guns and gun skillz, they also brag about people they know. "I know a guy with 27 AK-15s!!" "I know a guy who can kill something from 3 miles away!!!"

It just isn't gun nuttery unless there's constant bragging involved. :-)

In grade school, I learned that the first sentence is often the most important. Anyone who actually reads the 2nd amendment will see that it has the words "well regulated" written right in the first 3 words. What part of "Well regulated" doesn't the NRA get?

Granted, the 2nd amendment talks about Malitas, and granted, it says "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," but the courts have generally interpreted that the 2nd amendment applies to individual gun owners, I get that.

But, by the same token, courts have also upheld resonable restrictions on arms. For example, they have banned ownership of grenade launchers and bazookas by laypeople. I don't see the NRA claiming that everyone needs access to a bazooka, yet when it comes to high capacity magazines, the NRA opposes such a ban.

Kilton Wrote:
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> The anal "assault" of a gnat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What did the gnat do to warrant such a
> response?
> > Who examined the deceased's ass to find which
> hair
> > was removed?
> > You gun nuts are just so wild and crazy.
>
> Gun nuts are the best. Not only do they brag about
> their own guns and gun skillz, they also brag
> about people they know. "I know a guy with 27
> AK-15s!!" "I know a guy who can kill something
> from 3 miles away!!!"
>
> It just isn't gun nuttery unless there's constant
> bragging involved. :-)

If you are going to mock us owners of firearms then get the nomenclature correct.
It's called a AK-37. A minimum requirement to own is 47 for membership to the ACLU.
Get your facts straight.

@Kilton - you know why all the bragging, right?
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Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> @Kilton - you know why all the bragging, right?

Looks like 8 inches to me

The full history of the VA law making the concealed carry database exempt from public disclosure.


http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?091+sum+HB2144

SQL Served Wrote:

> While I appreciate (and fully expected) that you'd
> think that it's all about you, truth be told, it's
> just somewhat entertaining when bored to screw
> with easy targets like you. Just one of many,
> sorry to disappoint. You're a meme. Right down
> to your use of the ":-)" at the end of your posts
> as a crutch to make them appear more witty than
> they actually are. Really doesn't take much to
> figure you out. As anyone who clicks above can
> see for themselves without looking any further.
>
> Now stay from me nut job, you scare me.
>
> :-) lulz


Don't bother SQL. Klinton is a troll's troll. This was proven in what became known as the 'Great Klinton Ass-kicking of 2011', Marvin decimated Klinton routinely. Yet the fool just kept coming back for more. No matter how many times the retard got spanked, Klinton never saw how stupid he came across. He should be ignored, as all trolls should be. Most of us almost came to pity the fool troll Klinton. Almost


If you are extremely bored and/or a masochist, you can read the thread below to see how stale and lame Klinton's brain-farts are. Nothing new ever comes out of that pea brain of his.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/672916/672916.html#msg-672916

Liberal Gun Owner Wrote:
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> In grade school, I learned that the first sentence
> is often the most important. Anyone who actually
> reads the 2nd amendment will see that it has the
> words "well regulated" written right in the first
> 3 words. What part of "Well regulated" doesn't the
> NRA get?
>
> Granted, the 2nd amendment talks about Malitas,
> and granted, it says "the right of the people to
> keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," but
> the courts have generally interpreted that the 2nd
> amendment applies to individual gun owners, I get
> that.
>
> But, by the same token, courts have also upheld
> resonable restrictions on arms. For example, they
> have banned ownership of grenade launchers and
> bazookas by laypeople. I don't see the NRA
> claiming that everyone needs access to a bazooka,
> yet when it comes to high capacity magazines, the
> NRA opposes such a ban.


Since your spelling is still that of a grade schooler, as well as your logic, we can all assume you still reside in a desk firmly planted in 4th grade. My, your mommy must be so pround of her 20 year old 4th grader. Now why don't you run along down to the cement pond and go swimming with Elle Mae's critters Jethro.

Klinton, legend in his own mind Wrote:
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> SQL Served Wrote:
>
> > While I appreciate (and fully expected) that
> you'd
> > think that it's all about you, truth be told,
> it's
> > just somewhat entertaining when bored to screw
> > with easy targets like you. Just one of many,
> > sorry to disappoint. You're a meme. Right
> down
> > to your use of the ":-)" at the end of your
> posts
> > as a crutch to make them appear more witty than
> > they actually are. Really doesn't take much to
> > figure you out. As anyone who clicks above can
> > see for themselves without looking any further.
> >
> > Now stay from me nut job, you scare me.
> >
> > :-) lulz
>
>
> Don't bother SQL. Klinton is a troll's troll.
> This was proven in what became known as the 'Great
> Klinton Ass-kicking of 2011', Marvin decimated
> Klinton routinely. Yet the fool just kept coming
> back for more. No matter how many times the
> retard got spanked, Klinton never saw how stupid
> he came across. He should be ignored, as all
> trolls should be. Most of us almost came to pity
> the fool troll Klinton. Almost
>
>
> If you are extremely bored and/or a masochist, you
> can read the thread below to see how stale and
> lame Klinton's brain-farts are. Nothing new ever
> comes out of that pea brain of his.
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/672
> 916/672916.html#msg-672916

Yep, you girls are real tough. Basically calling kilton a retard and still kicking him/her down. You girls gunslingers?
At least kilton gets back up and keeps posting. I don't always agree but i do show respect. You be real tough bitches.

Klinton, legend in his own mind Wrote:
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> SQL Served Wrote:
>
> > While I appreciate (and fully expected) that
> you'd
> > think that it's all about you, truth be told,
> it's
> > just somewhat entertaining when bored to screw
> > with easy targets like you. Just one of many,
> > sorry to disappoint. You're a meme. Right
> down
> > to your use of the ":-)" at the end of your
> posts
> > as a crutch to make them appear more witty than
> > they actually are. Really doesn't take much to
> > figure you out. As anyone who clicks above can
> > see for themselves without looking any further.
> >
> > Now stay from me nut job, you scare me.
> >
> > :-) lulz
>
>
> Don't bother SQL. Klinton is a troll's troll.
> This was proven in what became known as the 'Great
> Klinton Ass-kicking of 2011', Marvin decimated
> Klinton routinely. Yet the fool just kept coming
> back for more. No matter how many times the
> retard got spanked, Klinton never saw how stupid
> he came across. He should be ignored, as all
> trolls should be. Most of us almost came to pity
> the fool troll Klinton. Almost
>
>
> If you are extremely bored and/or a masochist, you
> can read the thread below to see how stale and
> lame Klinton's brain-farts are. Nothing new ever
> comes out of that pea brain of his.
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/672
> 916/672916.html#msg-672916

....that marvin got beat, and hasn't been here since. he was literally ran out of here. so if anyones ass was kicked....you know?

2011 = one of the best years in fairfaxunderground history. only topped by 2012, and soon 2013. http://www.nrainsights.org/images/BestEver_HP_fs.png

Liberal Gun Owner Wrote:
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> In grade school, I learned that the first sentence
> is often the most important. Anyone who actually
> reads the 2nd amendment will see that it has the
> words "well regulated" written right in the first
> 3 words. What part of "Well regulated" doesn't the
> NRA get?
>
> Granted, the 2nd amendment talks about Malitas,
> and granted, it says "the right of the people to
> keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," but
> the courts have generally interpreted that the 2nd
> amendment applies to individual gun owners, I get
> that.

If you look at the whole statement, it's clear the well regulated part is part of the explanation for the Amendment's existence. Not a restriction of the Amendment.

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

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vbdPm Wrote:

> "A well regulated militia being necessary to
> the security of a free state, the right of the
> people to keep and bear arms shall not be
> infringed."
>
> .

Look at some of the early drafts of the Amendment. It gives you a better idea what the writers were trying to protect:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Earlier_proposals_and_drafts_of_the_Amendment

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Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> .

I'm goin be open minded bout about this gun paranoia thing.
Until you post seven pictures.

Klinton, legend in his own mind Wrote:
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>
> Don't bother SQL. Klinton is a troll's troll.
> This was proven in what became known as the 'Great
> Klinton Ass-kicking of 2011', Marvin decimated
> Klinton routinely. Yet the fool just kept coming
> back for more. No matter how many times the
> retard got spanked, Klinton never saw how stupid
> he came across. He should be ignored, as all
> trolls should be. Most of us almost came to pity
> the fool troll Klinton. Almost
>
>
> If you are extremely bored and/or a masochist, you
> can read the thread below to see how stale and
> lame Klinton's brain-farts are. Nothing new ever
> comes out of that pea brain of his.
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/672
> 916/672916.html#msg-672916


Holy shit. That's funny. I don't have the patience to read through all of that crap but that anyone would even participate in 3 months of that kinda nonsense says more than I ever could. So typical for "men" like Kilton. ;-) lulz

vPvKe Wrote:
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> vbdPm Wrote:
>
> > "A well regulated militia being necessary to
> > the security of a free state, the right of
> the
> > people to keep and bear arms shall not be
> > infringed."
> >
> > .
>
> Look at some of the early drafts of the Amendment.
> It gives you a better idea what the writers were
> trying to protect:
>
> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_t
> he_United_States_Constitution#Earlier_proposals_an
> d_drafts_of_the_Amendment


Fortunately, the SCOTUS has resolved the matter now so we no longer need to rely on armchair forum experts in Constitutional law. See Heller decision. The individual right to arms is affirmed and now is settled law. Short of Constitutional amendment, that's not likely to change or be reinterpreted.

The Waco Kid Wrote:
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> LxC9J Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > No legally possessed automatic weapon has been
> > used in a crime
> > in the USA since they started regulating them
> > (e.g. Al Capone days).
>
> Umm... you better check your sources or what you consider a crime. That's complete BS.

I'm using FBI and BATF; if you have different info please post.

Hell yeah I have a gun and I am happy to use it on any asshole coming into my house.

um, except... Wrote:
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> ....that marvin got beat, and hasn't been here
> since.

Oh he's still here alright -- still reading my every word. Occasionally, when he really misses me, he even says hi under another name and thinks that I don't know. :-)

Once you catch the Kilton bug, it often doesn't go away very easily. It's not like getting the flu where you're back to normal in a week. (Of course, you have to have a some pretty significant mental issues to be susceptible, so the long recovery time isn't surprising.)

Bobo Wrote:
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> Hell yeah I have a gun and I am happy to use it on
> any asshole coming into my house.

Please. Your ass will shot quicker than a $5 whore giving a blow job.

when choosing a neighborhood to live in I hope this type of research is done, http://www.ksdk.com/news/difference/story.aspx?storyid=133284 I purchased my guns back in the late 80's and at the time I did register it, but I somehow doubt the clerk at Service Merchandise sent in the paperwork, of the fact I lived in Front Royal and bought it in Manassas has any impact on my moving back to Fairfax, this is about a 25 year span. I am more concerned about the guns that cannot be accounted for. The are better issues to deal with, I don't see legal gun owners as a part of the solution. (Unless that makes all those not registered gun owners targets for finding the Illegal ones?)

The consequences of publishing a list will only produce negative results.

For instance, if some boys from the hood come through my door thinking there's nothihg to worry about because my name and address are not on the list, they most likely won't survive more than one step inside the threshold.

Don't even say you want to make sure your kids are not hanging out at gun owner's houses by identifying the gun owners.

Kids are curious and mischievous and will seek out and get their hands on those guns just because they are not supposed to. Guaranfriginteed!!!!!

There, the idiot liberals have been forwarned!!!!!!!!!

I was gonna get a Glock 9mm. Then I learned that handguns and rifles will shoot through drywall and you run the risk of shooting your own family members given the situation. Then I decided maybe a shorter shot gun. Then I learned that you are like 11 times more lucky to suffer from a gun related injury or death if you introduce a fire arm to the home. So I figure what's the fuckin use.

yepyep Wrote:
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> I was gonna get a Glock 9mm. Then I learned that
> handguns and rifles will shoot through drywall and
> you run the risk of shooting your own family
> members given the situation. Then I decided maybe
> a shorter shot gun. Then I learned that you are
> like 11 times more lucky to suffer from a gun
> related injury or death if you introduce a fire
> arm to the home. So I figure what's the fuckin
> use.


Odds of Accidental Gun Death:
851 in 2011/~300 million US population = 0.0000028
0.0000028 X 11 = 0.0000312

Odds of Accidental Gun Injury:
~20,000 annually/~300 million = 0.0000667
0.0000667 X 11 = 0.0007333

Odds of being struck by lightning:
~1,000 annually/~300 million = 0.0000033


Statistically, you're far more likely to be injured or killed in a fall in the home, poisoning (mostly prescription drug ODs), or drowned in a pool (about 10 times more than in a boating-related incident).

alabama man Wrote:
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> "What is the legitimate purpose of a fully
> automatic assault rifle when a semi-auto can fire
> rounds fast enough to kill anyone"
>
> Just how many people do you know that have full
> auto weapons and how many times have you even
> heard of a full auto being used in a crime
> recently. I call BS on your post.


yeah.

Priapus Wrote:
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> Who cares if gun owner names appear online? If you
> put "I love the NRA" or have a gun rack in your
> truck or a bumper sticker talking about dead, cold
> fingers. Hint, it's not a secret, you have a gun.


Spot on, sir. Additionally, this info will help identify wackos to steer clear of. Funny how Cletus drools at the prospect of seeing everyone's salary info via a FOIA request yet, shit's his pants when the same request will out him to the public as a gun owner. Hell, with open carry, you inbreds are easy to identify anyway.

Assholes.

wankitywank Wrote:
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> Priapus Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who cares if gun owner names appear online? If
> you
> > put "I love the NRA" or have a gun rack in your
> > truck or a bumper sticker talking about dead,
> cold
> > fingers. Hint, it's not a secret, you have a
> gun.
>
>
> Spot on, sir. Additionally, this info will help
> identify wackos to steer clear of. Funny how
> Cletus drools at the prospect of seeing everyone's
> salary info via a FOIA request yet, shit's his
> pants when the same request will out him to the
> public as a gun owner. Hell, with open carry, you
> inbreds are easy to identify anyway.
>
> Assholes.
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All you gun owners are faggots. It's like a child discovering he has a dick for the first time and starts waving it around in the classroom.

You all are fucking weird. Get a life. No one cares about your stupid rights that you cry about like a kid lost in a candy store. You all have to be so devastated that your rights to shoot at paper targets might be taken away…

BTW nice pic above.