IMO, All it does is set the expectaions bar really high ensuring failure and or a life of misery.

My tip, don't try being romantic until 5+ years into marriage.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/22/2012 01:22PM by Hay Zeus.

Marriage is an out of date notion. We would all be happy if we just could live separate but together. Space makes the heart grow fonder. I am sick of doing your dishes, laundry and grocery shopping. All you do is mow the lawn. I can hire a man to do that. I want my own space.

Think real hard before you get married. The first ten years were fun. The last five have been just OK. I do not want a divorce I just want to live alone during the week.

I stop trying once I get anal from her. After that there is no mountain left to climb.

Doing this is sure to get you some anal.

Why get married? Wrote:
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> Marriage is an out of date notion. We would all be
> happy if we just could live separate but together.
> Space makes the heart grow fonder. I am sick of
> doing your dishes, laundry and grocery shopping.
> All you do is mow the lawn. I can hire a man to do
> that. I want my own space.
>
> Think real hard before you get married. The first
> ten years were fun. The last five have been just
> OK. I do not want a divorce I just want to live
> alone during the week.

Not sure who to feel sorry for, you or your husband. Surely love was not the main pre-requisite of your nuptial.

Hay Zeus Wrote:
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> My tip, don't try being romantic until 5+ years
> into marriage.

So, I guess this means no sex until 5+ years?

Hay Zeus Wrote:
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> My tip, don't try being romantic until 5+ years
> into marriage.


How does a relationship make it to 5 years with no romance?

Alias Wrote:
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> Hay Zeus Wrote:
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>
> > My tip, don't try being romantic until 5+ years
> > into marriage.
>
> So, I guess this means no sex until 5+ years?

The only romance Alias should know about is a clenched fist!

Numbers Wrote:
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> Doing this is sure to get you some anal.
>
>

I hate this video and will never date him.

You try being romantic out of blue, five years into marriage, and the old lady will probably think you've gone completely insane.

I completely agree, Hey-Zeus. You spend all this time, energy and cash trying to do nice things for a woman and then she gets fed up on her own hang-ups that have nothing to do with you, it's over and you're back to square one. And none of that time, energy and cash means shit to the next woman.

I'm also fed up with having to mold myself into the person women want me to be instead of them just being into me for me. I don't do wine tastings or restaurants that serve 3 cubes of food on a plate the size of J-Lo's ass. What? You don't drive stick? I'm sorry. I'd be happy to show you how. It's a lot of fun. But, there'll ALWAYS be at least one car in my garage with a manual transmission. Christ...

Pretty much my standard line these days is something to the effect of, "There are 7 days in the week. I'm taking one of those 7 days in the week, my choice of the day, to do what I want to do, when I want to do and how I want to do it. I'll always communicate what I've got planned and you're welcome to come along or do your own thing. The other 6 days of the week, I'm all yours."

Maybe I haven't meant the right woman but, the days of coming home from work on Friday night and having my ENTIRE fucking weekend laid out for me with no input are over. Done. I incinerated too many weekends in the past thinking I was "building a relationship" when what I was REALLY doing was letting chicks roll me for money, food, shelter, clothing and/or booze. A relationship is 2 equal people. Equal SHOULD mean I'm taking 3.5 days a week for me. But, I'm a nice guy so, I'm only gonna' take one. One day. That's all I ask. You'll be a better person for it, too.

Genevieve Wrote:
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> Hay Zeus Wrote:
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> > My tip, don't try being romantic until 5+ years
> > into marriage.
>
>
> How does a relationship make it to 5 years with no
> romance?


Lots of drunk sex in interesting places

Wait till you have kids. You won't have to worry about wine tastings anymore.

All romance amounts to is some douche trying to convince some plastic bitch he's the guy, when clearly they're an incompatible match.

I've tried the whole romance thing many times and it only ends in misery. And everytime it was used to woo some lady it turned into a shit show because it becomes the rule not the exception.

@ Alias

Women want sex just as bad men, no toy in the world can replace the real thing.

@ Genevive

Per my statement above, it makes it because two people are a genuine match opposed to some dude lusting over some chica who really wants nothing to do with him otherwise.

Chloroform > Romance

Hay Zeus Wrote:
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> All romance amounts to is some douche trying to
> convince some plastic bitch he's the guy, when
> clearly they're an incompatible match.

A douche and a plastic bitch? Sounds compatible....

> I've tried the whole romance thing many times and
> it only ends in misery

Maybe you're trying it on the wrong women.

> And everytime it was used
> to woo some lady it turned into a shit show
> because it becomes the rule not the exception.

Zeus... romance shouldn't be the exception. It is what keeps the fire of desire burning.

And, it isn't about expensive gifts or dinners. It can be as simple as a flower you pick just before you walk in the door or a smile exchanged across the kitchen table. It has nothing to do with money.

> @ Alias

> Women want sex just as bad men, no toy in the
> world can replace the real thing.

Agreed, but five years with no romance sounds more like two business partners. Don't you wanna mix a little love in there? I mean, how long can someone eat dry toast?

Zeus, wait for a woman with some depth, and romance will be as simple as a whisper in her ear, but don't wait five years to try it out..... she'll be gone.

Alias Wrote:
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> Hay Zeus Wrote:
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> > All romance amounts to is some douche trying to
> > convince some plastic bitch he's the guy, when
> > clearly they're an incompatible match.
>
> A douche and a plastic bitch? Sounds
> compatible....
>
> > I've tried the whole romance thing many times
> and
> > it only ends in misery
>
> Maybe you're trying it on the wrong women.

Obvious is obvious!

>
> > And everytime it was used
> > to woo some lady it turned into a shit show
> > because it becomes the rule not the exception.
>
> Zeus... romance shouldn't be the exception. It is
> what keeps the fire of desire burning.

Shouldnt need romance to keep fire burning if two people are truely compitable, swinging can be just as an affective way to spice up the love life.

>
> And, it isn't about expensive gifts or dinners.
> It can be as simple as a flower you pick just
> before you walk in the door or a smile exchanged
> across the kitchen table. It has nothing to do
> with money.

Thats just silly
>
> > @ Alias
>
> > Women want sex just as bad men, no toy in the
> > world can replace the real thing.
>
> Agreed, but five years with no romance sounds more
> like two business partners. Don't you wanna mix a
> little love in there? I mean, how long can someone
> eat dry toast?

I can eat left overs for days, once ate pizza for a month straight.

Business partnership....eh? You know that may not happiness forever and ever but it does have more upside then a life time of being with a miserbale woman who complains about a lack of romance.
>
> Zeus, wait for a woman with some depth, and
> romance will be as simple as a whisper in her ear,
> but don't wait five years to try it out.....
> she'll be gone.

Those don't exist 'round here.

lMS-12 Wrote:
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> I'm also fed up with having to mold myself into
> the person women want me to be instead of them
> just being into me for me.

Then don't go out with women who aren't into you for you.

> I don't do wine
> tastings or restaurants that serve 3 cubes of food
> on a plate the size of J-Lo's ass.

Then don't do wine tastings or restaurants that serve 3 cubes of food on J-Lo's ass.

I don't do Nascar or beer burping contests in front of TVs the size of Texas.

> What? You don't
> drive stick? I'm sorry. I'd be happy to show you
> how. It's a lot of fun. But, there'll ALWAYS be at
> least one car in my garage with a manual
> transmission. Christ...

What? You don't like giant SUVs? I'm sorry.

I'd be happy to show you how to parallel park one of these suckers. It's a lot of fun. But, there'll ALWAYS be at least one huge gas-guzzling SUV in my garage. Christ...

Oh, and your manual transmission. Piece a cake. Beware... when I’m driving, hold on to your hat; I don’t lollygag.

> Pretty much my standard line these days is
> something to the effect of, "There are 7 days in
> the week. I'm taking one of those 7 days in the
> week, my choice of the day, to do what I want to
> do, when I want to do and how I want to do it.
> I'll always communicate what I've got planned and
> you're welcome to come along or do your own thing.

Thanks for the invite, but I'll do my own thing and don't you worry your pretty little dick about it.

> The other 6 days of the week, I'm all yours.

All mine? God almighty, talk about claustrophobia. Take a few more days, honey, and when you come home, don't crowd me.

> Maybe I haven't meant the right woman

Clearly.

> I incinerated too
> many weekends in the past thinking I was "building
> a relationship" when what I was REALLY doing was
> letting chicks roll me for money, food, shelter,
> clothing and/or booze.

Then stop shacking up with dingbats.

Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
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> Genevieve Wrote:
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> > Hay Zeus Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > > My tip, don't try being romantic until 5+
> years
> > > into marriage.
> >
> >
> > How does a relationship make it to 5 years with
> no
> > romance?
>
>
> Lots of drunk sex in interesting places

It depends on whether she falls in love with you and your personality or how you treat her.

Hay Zeus Wrote:
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> Shouldnt need romance to keep fire burning if two
> people are truely compitable, swinging can be just
> as an affective way to spice up the love life.

Swinging is spicing up your sex life, not your love life.

> I can eat left overs for days, once ate pizza for
> a month straight.

LOL. So can I, but dry toast?

> Business partnership....eh? You know that may not
> happiness forever and ever but it does have more
> upside then a life time of being with a miserbale
> woman who complains about a lack of romance.

Why are you still with her?

> > Zeus, wait for a woman with some depth,

> Those don't exist 'round here.

They do, Zeus...

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> It depends on whether she falls in love with you
> and your personality or how you treat her.

We got BLEH for snake knowledge and meh for romance.

Speaking of which, how is your girl, JenK been?

pet names are a good way too keep things nice and romantic


i call my wife 'bee', short for 'honeybee'

she calls me 'teddy', short for 'teddybear'


we have alot of good times together, it's all about spantanaity!

Alias Wrote:
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> lMS-12 Wrote:
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>
> > I'm also fed up with having to mold myself into
> > the person women want me to be instead of them
> > just being into me for me.
>
> Then don't go out with women who aren't into you
> for you.

Ok...

> > I don't do wine
> > tastings or restaurants that serve 3 cubes of
> food
> > on a plate the size of J-Lo's ass.
>
> Then don't do wine tastings or restaurants that
> serve 3 cubes of food on J-Lo's ass.

Ok...

> I don't do Nascar or beer burping contests in
> front of TVs the size of Texas.

How about Formula 1? My best friend since we were 7 has a time-share that overlooks Casino Corner in Monaco and we go with a group of about 12 people every year for the Gran Prix. Other than that, most races are on TV early Sunday mornings so, it's not a day-killer...there's also far more nuances to Formula 1 cars and the circuits than NASCAR so, it's much more watchable. And no 500 or 600 mile 4 and 5 hour time investments...

> > What? You don't
> > drive stick? I'm sorry. I'd be happy to show
> you
> > how. It's a lot of fun. But, there'll ALWAYS be
> at
> > least one car in my garage with a manual
> > transmission. Christ...
>
> What? You don't like giant SUVs? I'm sorry.
>
> I'd be happy to show you how to parallel park one
> of these suckers. It's a lot of fun. But,
> there'll ALWAYS be at least one huge gas-guzzling
> SUV in my garage. Christ...

Easy there...I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with a car that meets whatever YOUR requirements are. You want an SUV. Cool...what I DO have a problem with is a woman telling me ALL the cars in our garage HAVE to be automatics. And to be fair, this has only been a problem with the last 2 women I dated. It's just a sad day when a man is asked to choose between his car of 12 years and a 2 year relationship which was otherwise pleasurable and fulfilling...

> Oh, and your manual transmission. Piece a cake.
> Beware... when I’m driving, hold on to your hat;
> I don’t lollygag.

That's sounds hot...

> > Pretty much my standard line these days is
> > something to the effect of, "There are 7 days
> in
> > the week. I'm taking one of those 7 days in the
> > week, my choice of the day, to do what I want
> to
> > do, when I want to do and how I want to do it.
> > I'll always communicate what I've got planned
> and
> > you're welcome to come along or do your own
> thing.
>
> Thanks for the invite, but I'll do my own thing
> and don't you worry your pretty little dick about
> it.

Great...where do I sign?

> > The other 6 days of the week, I'm all yours.
>
> All mine? God almighty, talk about claustrophobia.
> Take a few more days, honey, and when you come
> home, don't crowd me.

Wait...what? A non-clingy bitch in the 703? Someone call Mulder and Scully....

> > Maybe I haven't meant the right woman
>
> Clearly.
>
> > I incinerated too
> > many weekends in the past thinking I was
> "building
> > a relationship" when what I was REALLY doing
> was
> > letting chicks roll me for money, food,
> shelter,
> > clothing and/or booze.
>
> Then stop shacking up with dingbats.

We should go out sometime. I'd like to get to know you better...

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> How about Formula 1? My best friend since we were
> 7 has a time-share that overlooks Casino Corner in
> Monaco and we go with a group of about 12 people
> every year for the Gran Prix.

Monaco? OK, I guess I could like Formula 1... whatever it is.

> what I DO have a problem with
> is a woman telling me ALL the cars in our garage
> HAVE to be automatics.

I know; I was just joshing you.

> And to be fair, this has
> only been a problem with the last 2 women I dated.

But, you're not dating them; you're living with them.

> It's just a sad day when a man is asked to choose
> between his car of 12 years and a 2 year
> relationship which was otherwise pleasurable and
> fulfilling...

Time to redefine dating... as in, stick to just dating. Go out, have fun, say adios. Let her sleep over one, maybe two nights a week. That's it. Don't let her move it.

> That's sounds hot...

Well, some like it hot.

> Great...where do I sign?

On the dotted line. Make sure you read the fine print.

> Wait...what? A non-clingy bitch in the 703?
> Someone call Mulder and Scully....

Not in the 703, but call Mulder and Scully anyway.

> We should go out sometime. I'd like to get to know
> you better...

I'll take you for a little spin in the hills of Monaco. But, then, I'll be off doing other things. So, don't text me, asking me where I am, 'cause I won't respond. You'll see me when you see me.

Alias Wrote:
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> MS-12 Wrote:
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>
> > How about Formula 1? My best friend since we
> were
> > 7 has a time-share that overlooks Casino Corner
> in
> > Monaco and we go with a group of about 12
> people
> > every year for the Gran Prix.
>
> Monaco? OK, I guess I could like Formula 1...
> whatever it is.

There's a casino and world class shopping and dining there, too. (Too many 3 cubes on J-Lo ass plates for my taste but enough other good places, too...)

> > what I DO have a problem with
> > is a woman telling me ALL the cars in our
> garage
> > HAVE to be automatics.
>
> I know; I was just joshing you.
>
> > And to be fair, this has
> > only been a problem with the last 2 women I
> dated.
>
> But, you're not dating them; you're living with
> them.

Thank you for the correction.

> > It's just a sad day when a man is asked to
> choose
> > between his car of 12 years and a 2 year
> > relationship which was otherwise pleasurable
> and
> > fulfilling...
>
> Time to redefine dating... as in, stick to just
> dating. Go out, have fun, say adios. Let her sleep
> over one, maybe two nights a week. That's it.
> Don't let her move it.

Oh for sure, however I typically find that THAT gameplan breeds the "I'm concerned you're not committed here..." discussion. And the end of the day it's my place and it should be me inviting her to stay or move-in if it gets that far. Not her angling...

> > That's sounds hot...
>
> Well, some like it hot.
>
> > Great...where do I sign?
>
> On the dotted line. Make sure you read the fine
> print.
>
> > Wait...what? A non-clingy bitch in the 703?
> > Someone call Mulder and Scully....
>
> Not in the 703, but call Mulder and Scully
> anyway.
>
> > We should go out sometime. I'd like to get to
> know
> > you better...
>
> I'll take you for a little spin in the hills of
> Monaco. But, then, I'll be off doing other things.
> So, don't text me, asking me where I am, 'cause I
> won't respond. You'll see me when you see me.

I'll be around, Alias...I? will be around...:)

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> Oh for sure, however I typically find that THAT
> gameplan breeds the "I'm concerned you're not
> committed here..."

When that whining begins, and only a wuss would whine like that, it's time to end the relationship. And, most likely, you're NOT committed or the wuss wouldn't be whining in the first place.

> And the end of the
> day it's my place and it should be me inviting her
> to stay or move-in if it gets that far. Not her
> angling...

Well, I can’t imagine why any woman would give up her home/apartment, her independence, her freedom... to live with some guy she’s dating. Sounds like a losing situation to me.

> I'll be around, Alias...I? will be around...:)

So will I... Let me know when you figure out who you are.

I feel like I'm watching a bad episode of Millionaire Matchmaker.

Dude, if you've got to chum and trawl using trips to Monaco to get a girl to be interested in you, you're most likely going to attract shallow bitches. And those are the ones that insist on molding you and attaching themselves like lampreys.

Stick with the repartee and charm. If she's into you, nothing else will matter. If there isn't magic and attraction in the first 60 seconds, no amount of compensation is going to make things work.

Hiring a band is no substitute for playing the piano like a maestro.