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Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
Extra White News
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Date: July 24, 2012 02:36PM
Mitt Romney inadvertently blurted out an Obama campaign talking point last night while discussing the impending "fiscal cliff" facing Congress. In an interview on CNBC's The Kudlow Report, Romney said that whoever wins the election this fall shouldn't be unfairly blamed for the coming fiscal crisis prompted by the expiration of the Bush tax cuts and the budgets cuts from sequestration. "We ought to give, whichever president is going to be elected, at least six months or a year to get those policies in place,” Romney said. In a statement by spokeswoman Lis Smith, the Obama campaign took a break from attacking their opponent: "We agree."
Obama not to blame.....yet
Obama not to blame.....yet
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: July 24, 2012 02:38PM
Romney really is turning into a fucking joke as a Presidential candidate, isn't he?
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Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
HatersGonnaHate
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Date: July 24, 2012 02:41PM
The funnier joke is that Obama will inherit the last 4 years of Obama if he wins, and his blaming the past 4 years on what his current term's administration inherited will be comical.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
4 more years, II
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Date: July 24, 2012 02:48PM
HatersGonnaHate Wrote:
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> The funnier joke is that Obama will inherit the
> last 4 years of Obama if he wins, and his blaming
> the past 4 years on what his current term's
> administration inherited will be comical.
Nah, he'll go for the throat and correctly point out the totally sitting-on-their-hands Conress as the main culprits...and he won't be a (relatively speaking) nice guy about it.
It should be interesting to watch.
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> The funnier joke is that Obama will inherit the
> last 4 years of Obama if he wins, and his blaming
> the past 4 years on what his current term's
> administration inherited will be comical.
Nah, he'll go for the throat and correctly point out the totally sitting-on-their-hands Conress as the main culprits...and he won't be a (relatively speaking) nice guy about it.
It should be interesting to watch.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
wee weed up
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Date: July 24, 2012 02:58PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Romney really is turning into a fucking joke as a
> Presidential candidate, isn't he?
Give him a chance. He might hit his stride by the 56th or 57th state.
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> Romney really is turning into a fucking joke as a
> Presidential candidate, isn't he?
Give him a chance. He might hit his stride by the 56th or 57th state.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
WashingTone-Locian
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Date: July 24, 2012 02:58PM
Romney is saying this because he expects "you people" will make him President because he is telling you to. So don't blame him for anything because "you people" will be sorry.
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Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
non huntin dog
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Date: July 24, 2012 03:01PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Romney is saying this because he expects "you
> people" will make him President because he is
> telling you to. So don't blame him for anything
> because "you people" will be sorry.
No legs on that one. You and three other people noticed that one. Dog won't hunt. Try a new one.
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> Romney is saying this because he expects "you
> people" will make him President because he is
> telling you to. So don't blame him for anything
> because "you people" will be sorry.
No legs on that one. You and three other people noticed that one. Dog won't hunt. Try a new one.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
FUNdamental
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Date: July 24, 2012 03:44PM
The problem with Romney is he really is a moderate and a logical thinker. But, he believes in order to win the election he must appeal to the “conservative” and “whacko” side of the party. When he shows he can think through a problem, or when he displays he can see a problem ahead and would like to address that probable problem now, the “conservatives and whackos” jump all over him. He is now taking his leads from Fox News for God’s sake, he had a fundraiser with Dick Chaney, and he is talking pro-life and anti-Planned Parenthood. Do you think he enjoys these talking points? I don’t, and I bet he is frustrated with it. So, here is an idea, dump the whackos and speak to us as if we are smart and we can see the big picture. Since you are not very good at this conservative thing, just drop it, Mitt.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
psychosis
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Date: July 24, 2012 03:53PM
FUNdamental Wrote:
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> The problem with Romney is he really is a moderate
> and a logical thinker. But, he believes in order
> to win the election he must appeal to the
> “conservative” and “whacko” side of the
> party. When he shows he can think through a
> problem, or when he displays he can see a problem
> ahead and would like to address that probable
> problem now, the “conservatives and whackos”
> jump all over him. He is now taking his leads
> from Fox News for God’s sake, he had a
> fundraiser with Dick Chaney, and he is talking
> pro-life and anti-Planned Parenthood. Do you
> think he enjoys these talking points? I don’t,
> and I bet he is frustrated with it. So, here is
> an idea, dump the whackos and speak to us as if we
> are smart and we can see the big picture. Since
> you are not very good at this conservative thing,
> just drop it, Mitt.
Fundy, the cat has been out of the bag for a while now. Simple fact is that you aren't that smart. Wenlock agrees with me.
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> The problem with Romney is he really is a moderate
> and a logical thinker. But, he believes in order
> to win the election he must appeal to the
> “conservative” and “whacko” side of the
> party. When he shows he can think through a
> problem, or when he displays he can see a problem
> ahead and would like to address that probable
> problem now, the “conservatives and whackos”
> jump all over him. He is now taking his leads
> from Fox News for God’s sake, he had a
> fundraiser with Dick Chaney, and he is talking
> pro-life and anti-Planned Parenthood. Do you
> think he enjoys these talking points? I don’t,
> and I bet he is frustrated with it. So, here is
> an idea, dump the whackos and speak to us as if we
> are smart and we can see the big picture. Since
> you are not very good at this conservative thing,
> just drop it, Mitt.
Fundy, the cat has been out of the bag for a while now. Simple fact is that you aren't that smart. Wenlock agrees with me.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
Ito
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Date: July 24, 2012 03:59PM
@FUNdamental
You nailed it. That is my problem with him. He switches his opinions and gets the talking points DEAD ON when he switches.
There's a great analysis of his switching opinions on Salon.com showing him talking both sides of the abortion debate over the years. He is equally convincing when he's both pro and anti-abortion.
Direct link to the video.
http://bcove.me/zt2xxhby
Link to article (the video is also embedded on the page:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_conversion/2012/02/mitt_romney_s_abortion_record_flip_flop_or_conversion_.html
You nailed it. That is my problem with him. He switches his opinions and gets the talking points DEAD ON when he switches.
There's a great analysis of his switching opinions on Salon.com showing him talking both sides of the abortion debate over the years. He is equally convincing when he's both pro and anti-abortion.
Direct link to the video.
http://bcove.me/zt2xxhby
Link to article (the video is also embedded on the page:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_conversion/2012/02/mitt_romney_s_abortion_record_flip_flop_or_conversion_.html
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
DOMA
()
Date: July 24, 2012 04:06PM
Ito Wrote:
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> @FUNdamental
>
> You nailed it. That is my problem with him. He
> switches his opinions and gets the talking points
> DEAD ON when he switches.
>
> There's a great analysis of his switching opinions
> on Salon.com showing him talking both sides of the
> abortion debate over the years. He is equally
> convincing when he's both pro and anti-abortion.
>
> Direct link to the video.
> http://bcove.me/zt2xxhby
>
> Link to article (the video is also embedded on the
> page:
> http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/th
> e_conversion/2012/02/mitt_romney_s_abortion_record
> _flip_flop_or_conversion_.html
Obama wasn't as convincing on his gay marriage flip flopping?
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> @FUNdamental
>
> You nailed it. That is my problem with him. He
> switches his opinions and gets the talking points
> DEAD ON when he switches.
>
> There's a great analysis of his switching opinions
> on Salon.com showing him talking both sides of the
> abortion debate over the years. He is equally
> convincing when he's both pro and anti-abortion.
>
> Direct link to the video.
> http://bcove.me/zt2xxhby
>
> Link to article (the video is also embedded on the
> page:
> http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/th
> e_conversion/2012/02/mitt_romney_s_abortion_record
> _flip_flop_or_conversion_.html
Obama wasn't as convincing on his gay marriage flip flopping?
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
Ito
()
Date: July 24, 2012 04:18PM
He was a good flip-flopper on DOMA, but we are talking about Romney.
I'm not an Obama fan, but I think its a good idea to look at what the alternative guy will be like. After all, in 2008 I think a lot of people voted for Obama with the thought, "Anybody but Bush and Bush-like policies". Look what those people got for their vote.
When Romney wins (and he probably will unless there is some sort of economic miracle between now and November), we will be criticizing Mitt for the next 4 years. The guy is slippery.
I'm not an Obama fan, but I think its a good idea to look at what the alternative guy will be like. After all, in 2008 I think a lot of people voted for Obama with the thought, "Anybody but Bush and Bush-like policies". Look what those people got for their vote.
When Romney wins (and he probably will unless there is some sort of economic miracle between now and November), we will be criticizing Mitt for the next 4 years. The guy is slippery.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
yeah right
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Date: July 24, 2012 04:21PM
Ito Wrote:
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> I'm not an Obama fan
Why are liberals so full of shit?
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> I'm not an Obama fan
Why are liberals so full of shit?
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
Vexxxed
()
Date: July 24, 2012 04:40PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Romney really is turning into a fucking joke as a
> Presidential candidate, isn't he?
Romney agrees with what you've been repeating for 3 years and suddenly he's a fucking joke?
Joke's on you, big guy.
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> Romney really is turning into a fucking joke as a
> Presidential candidate, isn't he?
Romney agrees with what you've been repeating for 3 years and suddenly he's a fucking joke?
Joke's on you, big guy.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
Ito
()
Date: July 24, 2012 04:43PM
Labeling me as a liberal means nothing to me. I am not a fan of Obama. He was the JUNIOR senator from Illinois. He quickly got in over his head when he took the reigns of the government. He has no business experience and decided to continue all the wrong-headed plans that Bush laid out through his first term.
He bailed out the banks at the expense of the American taxpayer, when he could just as easily have let the banks go under and let the smaller banks pick up the pieces -- which is what happens in a free market economy. Rewarding the idiots who bankrupted their companies with government money is the worst kind of welfare. It is meddling in the economy worse than any other kind of nanny state could have. The ironic thing was that the BIG government approach was started by a Republican administration! I was OUTRAGED at Bush for this government takeover of the economy. Obama continued these policies with vigor instead of letting too big to fail, fail.
Obama has been bankrupt of ideas for this country. Even during his signature healthcare legislation, which was the equivalent of fiddling while Rome burned, he basically let the insurance industry write the legislation.
The one saving grace with Obama is that he is incompetent. If he had gotten his way on big spending programs that he has introduced, we would be in even more trouble. Government is not the solution to our problems, it is frequently the problem.
Is that enough vitriol for you? I refuse to reduce my opinions to the talking points on both sides these days. Simply labeling someone as a "conservative" or "liberal" ignores the horrible big government policies that both sides are suggesting.
The Bush-era Patriot Act was a big power grab by the government. The boost in military spending to fight this never-ending "War on Terror" is a power grab and has bankrupted our country. I'm old enough to remember the end of the Cold War. There were hopes that military spending would be reduced then -- a "Peace Dividend" they called it. -- It never happened. Now the war in Iraq is over and we're pulling our troops out of Afghanistan, we are still spending money on the military at the same rate we were at the height of both wars. When people suggest that we should cut back the spending, people are complaining that cutting defense spending would "devastate" the economy.
Both sides are robbing us blind but we get distracted with their talking points and labels of conservative vs. liberal.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2012 04:45PM by Ito.
He bailed out the banks at the expense of the American taxpayer, when he could just as easily have let the banks go under and let the smaller banks pick up the pieces -- which is what happens in a free market economy. Rewarding the idiots who bankrupted their companies with government money is the worst kind of welfare. It is meddling in the economy worse than any other kind of nanny state could have. The ironic thing was that the BIG government approach was started by a Republican administration! I was OUTRAGED at Bush for this government takeover of the economy. Obama continued these policies with vigor instead of letting too big to fail, fail.
Obama has been bankrupt of ideas for this country. Even during his signature healthcare legislation, which was the equivalent of fiddling while Rome burned, he basically let the insurance industry write the legislation.
The one saving grace with Obama is that he is incompetent. If he had gotten his way on big spending programs that he has introduced, we would be in even more trouble. Government is not the solution to our problems, it is frequently the problem.
Is that enough vitriol for you? I refuse to reduce my opinions to the talking points on both sides these days. Simply labeling someone as a "conservative" or "liberal" ignores the horrible big government policies that both sides are suggesting.
The Bush-era Patriot Act was a big power grab by the government. The boost in military spending to fight this never-ending "War on Terror" is a power grab and has bankrupted our country. I'm old enough to remember the end of the Cold War. There were hopes that military spending would be reduced then -- a "Peace Dividend" they called it. -- It never happened. Now the war in Iraq is over and we're pulling our troops out of Afghanistan, we are still spending money on the military at the same rate we were at the height of both wars. When people suggest that we should cut back the spending, people are complaining that cutting defense spending would "devastate" the economy.
Both sides are robbing us blind but we get distracted with their talking points and labels of conservative vs. liberal.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2012 04:45PM by Ito.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
FUNdamental
()
Date: July 24, 2012 05:24PM
Ito Wrote:
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>
> He bailed out the banks at the expense of the
> American taxpayer, when he could just as easily
> have let the banks go under and let the smaller
> banks pick up the pieces -- which is what happens
> in a free market economy. Rewarding the idiots who
> bankrupted their companies with government money
> is the worst kind of welfare. It is meddling in
> the economy worse than any other kind of nanny
> state could have. The ironic thing was that the
> BIG government approach was started by a
> Republican administration! I was OUTRAGED at Bush
> for this government takeover of the economy. Obama
> continued these policies with vigor instead of
> letting too big to fail, fail.
>
TARP was signed in the first part of October, 2008, by President George W. Bush, not President Obama. 700 billion had been allocated under George W. Bush to cover TARP. Thanks, though, for the Fox News misinformation.
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>
> He bailed out the banks at the expense of the
> American taxpayer, when he could just as easily
> have let the banks go under and let the smaller
> banks pick up the pieces -- which is what happens
> in a free market economy. Rewarding the idiots who
> bankrupted their companies with government money
> is the worst kind of welfare. It is meddling in
> the economy worse than any other kind of nanny
> state could have. The ironic thing was that the
> BIG government approach was started by a
> Republican administration! I was OUTRAGED at Bush
> for this government takeover of the economy. Obama
> continued these policies with vigor instead of
> letting too big to fail, fail.
>
TARP was signed in the first part of October, 2008, by President George W. Bush, not President Obama. 700 billion had been allocated under George W. Bush to cover TARP. Thanks, though, for the Fox News misinformation.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
screw you
()
Date: July 24, 2012 06:19PM
FUNdamental Wrote:
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> TARP was signed in the first part of October,
> 2008, by President George W. Bush, not President
> Obama. 700 billion had been allocated under
> George W. Bush to cover TARP.
One of the many signs and more to come when people get pissed because they are losing their jobs. More people's lives get messed up as a result "their" quest for global domination. White, Autocar, and we all know whos next. Sad...
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> TARP was signed in the first part of October,
> 2008, by President George W. Bush, not President
> Obama. 700 billion had been allocated under
> George W. Bush to cover TARP.
One of the many signs and more to come when people get pissed because they are losing their jobs. More people's lives get messed up as a result "their" quest for global domination. White, Autocar, and we all know whos next. Sad...
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
Ito
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Date: July 24, 2012 06:40PM
What I wrote was accurate enough (at least for a summary). Bush started it, Obama finished it. Just goes to show that both parties are playing the same game with our money.
Re: Romney says Obama shouldn't be blamed for Bush policies
Posted by:
wtl is so unbias
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Date: July 24, 2012 07:14PM
WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Romney really is turning into a fucking joke as a
> Presidential candidate, isn't he?
Your opinion on anything politics is the only "fucking joke" you should be commenting on
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> Romney really is turning into a fucking joke as a
> Presidential candidate, isn't he?
Your opinion on anything politics is the only "fucking joke" you should be commenting on