The ferocity of personal attacks and attempted "outing" has picked up considerably in the past few days. Some moderation (based on reports) has been performed every day this week, but it was obviously insufficient to stem the tide. I'm performing a full investigation now that will likely result in warnings and several bans.

I'm really just posting this (sticky) thread to reiterate:
PERSONAL ATTACKS INCLUDING "OUTING" ARE PROHIBITED ON FAIRFAX UNDERGROUND!

The actions of the user '2concerned' are once again especially troublesome as he jumps to conclusions based on circumstantial evidence to support his foregone conclusions.

Outing that is correct and truthful, while against Fairfax Underground's rules, is vastly preferred to the type of careless haphazard outing attempts that have appeared in recent days. Libeling the name of someone who is completely innocent and has never posted to Fairfax Underground, based on a mere hunch or circumstantial evidence, is deplorable and will result in a ban.

The trouble is compounded by the fact that other malicious users (ie 'inkahootz') have been fanning the flames by feeding '2concerned' misinformation about their own perceived enemies in an attempt to redirect his ire to favorable targets.

THIS HAS TO STOP! This is an official notice that anyone attempting to "out" a forum poster will be banned for 30 days.

I will watch this thread closely so if there's anything you'd like to add or bring to my attention, including questions about policies and security, please air it here.

- Cary (the admin)

Thanks Cary... :)

Thanks.

2concerned I told you that you were being jerked around.

I'm not that Brian guy. I'm not sure why inkahootz has it out for me but I agree this has gone too far.

yes you are

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:34PM by Cary.

TheNorthman Wrote:
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> Thanks.
>
> 2concerned I told you that you were being jerked
> around.
>
> I'm not that Brian guy. I'm not sure why
> inkahootz has it out for me but I agree this has
> gone too far.


For what? You were one of the main idiot invovled in the last outing. Purposely trying to ruin the life of a poster and others who were innocent and didn't post here. You deserve everything you get and what's coming to you. And if you aren't Brian believe me, you will still get yours. There are many ways to find out who you are. And since you libed and slandered innocent people you can bet on some shit happening to you.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:34PM by Cary.

Thanks? Wrote:
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> TheNorthman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Thanks.
> >
> > 2concerned I told you that you were being
> jerked
> > around.
> >
> > I'm not that Brian guy. I'm not sure why
> > inkahootz has it out for me but I agree this
> has
> > gone too far.
>
>
> For what? You were one of the main idiot invovled
> in the last outing. Purposely trying to ruin the
> life of a poster and others who were innocent and
> didn't post here. You deserve everything you get
> and what's coming to you. And if you aren't Brian
> believe me, you will still get yours. There are
> many ways to find out who you are. And since you
> libed and slandered innocent people you can bet on
> some shit happening to you.


lol

You are Brian and if you aren't you will be discovered soon enough. Thanks to Eli your IP address was captured and you will be getting a C&D letter very soon.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:35PM by Cary.

And if you aren't Brian then why was this thread even created the very day you were outed? If you aren't Brian why does both you and Brian's sisters have the same occupation? Why did your IP address link back to Brian's current city? Funny.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:35PM by Cary.

Cut the shit Wrote:
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> You are Brian and if you aren't you will be
> discovered soon enough. Thanks to Eli your IP
> address was captured and you will be getting a C&D
> letter very soon.


You might want to read what the OP (Cary) started this thread by saying.

Also, if you are referring to the picture of a list of ip's I saw in one of these threads........I saw my ip listed. Ran it for the fun of it.

Evidently I'm in Woodbridge, Manassas and Washington DC depending on what service you use.

Only problem is I'm in none of those places.

You might want to learn how to not be such an idiot all the time. The IP matter has nothing to do with location in this case. So please, don't comment on matters that you clearly don't understand or don't concern you.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:36PM by Cary.

sending brian a c&d letter wouldn't hurt any..worse case..it is not him..if it is then we will know..so do it anyway

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:36PM by Cary.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2013 02:35PM by chuckhoffmann.

You crack me up man. But yes, thanks to 2con this site is hot now and on the radar. A lot of people are getting fed up and are taking legal action because of the libel being spewed here and nothing being done about it.

An officer once told me "FairfaxUnderground is 10% cops, 90% criminals"

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:37PM by Cary.

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Your fourth sentence, "Outing that is correct and
> truthful, while against Fairfax Underground's
> rules, is vastly preferred to the type of careless
> haphazard outing attempts that have appeared in
> recent days. Libeling the name of someone who is
> completely innocent and has never posted to
> Fairfax Underground, based on a mere hunch or
> circumstantial evidence, is deplorable and will
> result in a ban." is garbled and poorly thought
> out, and comes across as somewhat mealy-mouthed.
>
> The simple fact is that something is either
> against the rules or it is not. If it is against
> the rules, it is your responsibility as the owner
> and sole moderator to enforce that rule ALL of the
> time, not merely when it suits your purposes or
> when you find the time in your busy schedule to do
> so.
>
> The correct way to state what I believe you meant
> is "Outing, or posting of another poster's
> personal identifying information, is not allowed
> on Fairfax Underground. This includes posting of
> real names, addresses, and home, work, or cell
> telephone numbers. Posts containing personal
> information of any kind will be deleted and the
> poster will be blocked from Fairfax Underground."
>
> See? That's reasonably simple, unambiguous, and
> provides no wiggle room for wanna-be Internet
> lawyers who want to argue their points ad
> nauseum.
>
> The second part to this is actually enforcing the
> rule, which means that you have to respond to
> poster's complaints (no more E-mails to an
> apparent black hole) and take action on them
> promptly. You don't get to hide behind the curtain
> any more, Oz, you've got to be actively engaged
> and responsive.
>
> If this is too much work or will take up too much
> of your time, you should delegate some of it to
> other people that you trust to do so*, or you
> should shut down Fairfax Underground, because this
> will happen again, I guarantee it.
>
> *I specifically exclude myself for consideration
> for any such position.




There you go again biting the hand that feeds you.


If you find this site and the admin so disagreeable, then please leave at once.

Blessed are the murderous.

The thing I'm confused about is with 2con's neighbor. Whoever "i live across the street is" had a lot of info that only someone who knows him or lives near him would know. But then that came to be a hoax?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:37PM by Cary.

Not adding up Wrote:
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> The thing I'm confused about is with 2con's
> neighbor. Whoever "i live across the street is"
> had a lot of info that only someone who knows him
> or lives near him would know. But then that came
> to be a hoax?


It does add up. "Neighboor"-guy was a troll from this site who did know him other than from his postings.

Said troll sent scott a FB friends request. Scott accepted. That's how he got scott's info.

is you being brian

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 06:38PM by Cary.

chuck, you'd be more helpful if you weren't constantly trying to grind your axe..

Cary is the best, and most fair, moderator on the internet. You really think the best solution is to bring on an additional moderator?

Quit acting like a butt-hurt broad because Cary doesn't "recognize your brilliance". Why not try to be helpful without passive-aggressive insults?

Signatures are for fags

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2013 02:34PM by chuckhoffmann.

Way to go chuck. You're lucky Cary seems to be a mellow dude since you're basically insulting him. It's his place, his rules, and he can run it as tightly or as loosely as he sees fit. I got no beef with you, but if you don't like how this place is run, you should just leave. Don't sweat it brah, we'll turn off the light.

__________________________________
That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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snip
> Cary has to be engaged, responsive, and
> consistent. In other words, he actually has to run
> the damn place, and not just when it's convenient
> for him to do so.


The only thing Cary really has to do is keep his own ass out of jail. Beyond that, you, me and anyone else who doesn't like the way he runs things can go shit in a hat. As you've said before, it's his sandbox. I don't think he's ever solicited opinions on how to moderate the site. I'm sure unsolicited opinions fall into the same category as the other shit being crapped into the slit trench. If the users want to vote with their feet and fuck off to some other site, so be it. Eventually things will return to normal.

Damn, I see Warhawk essentially posted the same message.

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Your fourth sentence, "Outing that is correct and
> truthful, while against Fairfax Underground's
> rules, is vastly preferred to the type of careless
> haphazard outing attempts that have appeared in
> recent days. Libeling the name of someone who is
> completely innocent and has never posted to
> Fairfax Underground, based on a mere hunch or
> circumstantial evidence, is deplorable and will
> result in a ban." is garbled and poorly thought
> out, and comes across as somewhat mealy-mouthed.

I agree that the sentence could have had more tact, it was produced in a rush. The goal was to get the post out the door as quickly as possible.

> The simple fact is that something is either
> against the rules or it is not. If it is against
> the rules, it is your responsibility as the owner
> and sole moderator to enforce that rule ALL of the
> time, not merely when it suits your purposes or
> when you find the time in your busy schedule to do
> so.

In order for the rules to be enforced ALL of the time I would either have to continuously monitor every thread on the site or switch to a "moderated listserv" format where each post needs a moderator's green light before being posted. Neither is acceptable. Although I agree I should have nipped this one in the bud (by banning 2concerned, again) before it became such a federal case.

> The correct way to state what I believe you meant
> is "Outing, or posting of another poster's
> personal identifying information, is not allowed
> on Fairfax Underground. This includes posting of
> real names, addresses, and home, work, or cell
> telephone numbers. Posts containing personal
> information of any kind will be deleted and the
> poster will be blocked from Fairfax Underground."
>
> See? That's reasonably simple, unambiguous, and
> provides no wiggle room for wanna-be Internet
> lawyers who want to argue their points ad
> nauseum.

While I agree your sentence is far more inclusive of my goals, I do not try to write legal code with every post. When I post a rule or explain a decision I aim to provide the rational reader with enough information to infer my objectives and act accordingly. I do not care if certain posters try to exploit loopholes in my wording, the rules will apply to them just the same.

> The second part to this is actually enforcing the
> rule, which means that you have to respond to
> poster's complaints (no more E-mails to an
> apparent black hole) and take action on them
> promptly. You don't get to hide behind the curtain
> any more, Oz, you've got to be actively engaged
> and responsive.

Email does not go to a black hole, it's simply prioritized. I receive an incredible amount of email related to this site and the truly pressing matters are always resolved in a timely fashion. The most public matters are often not the most pressing.

> If this is too much work or will take up too much
> of your time, you should delegate some of it to
> other people that you trust to do so*, or you
> should shut down Fairfax Underground, because this
> will happen again, I guarantee it.
>
> *I specifically exclude myself for consideration
> for any such position.

I agree that this is bound to occur again. Dynamic IP addresses, no email verification process, and allowing anonymous posting will always ensure that this service is abused. It doesn't matter to me so much when the service is abused in the instant, but rather what is retained 1 week or 1 month later.

I have considered adding additional moderators over the years, but in order to effectively moderate an anonymous online forum the new moderator would need access to every poster's IP address, which is something I'm not quite ready to trust someone with, although I do have a short list.

Warhawk Wrote:
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> Way to go chuck. You're lucky Cary seems to be a
> mellow dude since you're basically insulting him.
> It's his place, his rules, and he can run it as
> tightly or as loosely as he sees fit. I got no
> beef with you, but if you don't like how this
> place is run, you should just leave. Don't sweat
> it brah, we'll turn off the light.


+1



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 08:53PM by tomahawk.

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> If Cary continues to operate Fairfax Underground
> in this manner, the entire imbroglio that has
> caused so much upset and drama here this past week
> or so will occur again. He has to be willing to
> shovel the shit out of the slit trench of Fairfax
> Underground at least as fast as it's being crapped
> into, or just fill the stinking hole and walk
> away.

I agree that this website would have a different face if I had the ability to moderate threads 24 hours a day, but the majority of content here would remain.

The 2concerned fiasco, while disconcerting, did not rile my nerves until the blatant personal attacks and "outing" attempts began. Out of all the garbage he has posted only his speculative outing will be removed.

I always aim to leave as much information as possible in the forums to allow the passer-by several months from now to reconstruct what has occurred.

I do agree with the merits of both your posts and always welcome level-minded criticism.

- Cary (the admin)

I just want to say Thanks for all you do. This 2concerned, in my opinion, has gotten out of hand. Offering $500 for people's info is not cool. I think it is kinda scary. Thanks for looking into it, like you always do when things get out of hand.

Cary, are iPhone posts permanently blocked? I noticed they have been blocked since like April or so. Wasn't sure if that was intentional or not, and thought it was strange that I could post via iPhone from places like Detroit and Las Vegas, but not from here in NoVA.

No biggie, just thought I'd mention it.

Cut the shit Wrote:
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> Thanks to Eli your IP
> address was captured and you will be getting a C&D
> letter very soon.


I am very interested into which IP you think is my personal IP? Was it the one out of Phoenix, NY, or Kansas City or one of the others? I wish that you would post which IP you think is actually mine. I'm not skrrr'd. hope you realize that a C&D sent under false circumstances/or sent to the wrong person can bring about lawsuits for demation...but I'm sure as you say that you have my IP..that it really is my IP. Also as you know I have been logging IP's for years...and I publicly posted that website earlier this week. I wouldn't have done that unless I knew that my real IP was protected which it is.


I once said that I was a professional poker player. Maybe it is the IP out of Vegas.

edit by Cary: The IP logging service "iplogger.org" has been removed from this post and banned from use in the forum. Due to constant abuse I may need to implement a rule change and forbid offsite includes from being displayed in-line except for a small subset of pre-approved services (tinypic, youtube, etc.) Eli, cut it out.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 08:02PM by Cary.

never thought i'd say this, but i have to agree with chuck. the "welcome to fairfax underground [new users read this first]" sticky in the main thread mentions anonymity several times and implies a reasonable expectation of anonymity and privacy. of course nobody is ever completely anonymous on the internet, but when people like 2concerned and inkahootz area allowed to run amok for days and weeks at a time, it shows people that they can get away with being assholes for a while before their egregious behavior is addressed.

if this site gets a negative reputation for dubious behavior and users, it will stop being "to improve communication between residents of northern virginia" and start being "a gathering place for the douchebags and assholes of northern virginia." the positive contributors will leave eventually because they don't want to deal with the bullshit.

it's clear now why "outing" and "personal attacks" are against the rules, and decisive, consistent action should be taken against people who attempt to disrupt this board, if for no other reason than to send the message that this behavior will not be tolerated. considering how far things have progressed, an automatic 90-day ban and deletion of all offending posts should be the response to any attempted "outing" and "personal attacks."

this would be in cary's best interest too, because if people do take legal action against another user, one step in that process will be to subpoena cary for the ip addresses and such associated with libelous posts. he's indicated that he's had to deal with that in the past, and if i were him, i'd get sick of being dragged into other peoples' legal battles after a while.

Eli Khalife Wrote:
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> edit by Cary: Eli, cut it out.



Cary, my bad.

Attachments:

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Cary, are iPhone posts permanently blocked? I
> noticed they have been blocked since like April or
> so. Wasn't sure if that was intentional or not,
> and thought it was strange that I could post via
> iPhone from places like Detroit and Las Vegas, but
> not from here in NoVA.
>
> No biggie, just thought I'd mention it.


Yeah...what's up with that?

__________________________________
That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

Cut the shit Wrote:
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> you will be getting a C&D letter very soon.
>


Names and Addresses have been redacted to protect the innocent..

C&D 'The Other White Meat' lulz

I just saw this thread... was there a PM that I missed?

Apologies... I need to catch up.

Ya know, Cary, he posted yet another FB page of yet another Jennifer and has uped my bounty to $400....however, that Jennifer is just another of 2con's victims now

2concerned Wrote:
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> I just saw this thread... was there a PM that I
> missed?
>
> Apologies... I need to catch up.

No, someone posted it to you awhile ago...read, you illeterate fuck!

Wow, Lizzie, you're a pain in the ass.

"No, someone posted it to you awhile ago...read, you illeterate fuck!"

No, someone asked if I'd seen it, and said that I'd been jerked around by someone.

That's what I responded to.

After you up-ed the bounty on me and tried to out me again via some poor girl named jennifer who also likes cats....right.

You have to play dumb when you purposely ignored it til you ran out of jen's to post.

"Offering $500 for people's info is not cool."

That's not the same as "outing". If that's against the rules, I'll retract the offer.

I've outed nobody.

JenK: "After you up-ed the bounty"

I offered to PAY you.

Call it a bounty if you want, but that's not correct.

2concerned Wrote:
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> I just saw this thread... was there a PM that I
> missed?
>
> Apologies... I need to catch up.


Everyone has been telling you that you need to catch up for the last month. You were trying to out people from this site. You didn't even care if some of the people whom you were claiming FFXU posters to be had nothing to do with any of this. However what you were doing was victimizing innocent people and let's hope for their sake and yours that they never find out what you have done.

Also consider, guys, I might be the only one that hasn't posted anonymously, except earlier.

I've been at a static IP (except during the DoS attacks). Cary knows EVERYTHING I've done.

If I have done something wrong, I hope he'll "warn" me, but I guess the choice is his.

On the other hand, if we're right, Ito and TheNorthguy are coming from the same Westminster IP. Who's playing games should be fairly obvious.

I've always tried to play by the rules.

Well, Scottie, you did specifically ask in one of your posts if it's legal to offer a bounty, right after offering $500 for me and Gordon...it is SO hard for you to keep your own facts straight! And you wonder why I don't have faith in you,

NO, you offered me a buck piece of paper that you can't cover. That's all.

And again, those were your words, buddy, I just repeated them...but plz, keep denting what you type cause constantly contradicting yourself isn't crazy at all....

Jesus, go re-read before you answer again.

2concerned Wrote:
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>
> I've outed nobody.



That's funny and you are nuts if you actually believe that.

"Everyone has been telling you that you need to catch up for the last month."

Yeah, and I'm sorry for all that, but how else could I have found out Brian and Sharon were behind so much?

Really, they're doing me REAL WORLD HARM. Any screenshot of an innocent's publicly posted info can't really compare to the attack that's been waged against me and my family, can it?

But Northman and Ito weren't even on your radar til after you posted about the illegal acts of Gordon! You've moved from one poster to the next as they get bored with your ranting bullshit and give up.

2concerned Wrote:
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> "Everyone has been telling you that you need to
> catch up for the last month."
>
> Yeah, and I'm sorry for all that, but how else
> could I have found out Brian and Sharon were
> behind so much?
>
> Really, they're doing me REAL WORLD HARM. Any
> screenshot of an innocent's publicly posted info
> can't really compare to the attack that's been
> waged against me and my family, can it?

1)that proVes you're a fucking nut case *edie-fucking V won't work*
b)the attack you waged against FCPS can't compare to anythign anyone of your neighbors or any of the posters on here could have done.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 09:02PM by JenK.

2concerned Wrote:
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> Really, they're doing me REAL WORLD HARM.


They're doing you "REAL WORLD HARM" so you decided to talk about it and get "FAKE WORLD JUSTICE" in the Off-Topic section of Fairfax Underground?

@Grouper-LOL
Attachments:

grouper: get "FAKE WORLD JUSTICE"

I told you... my publisher needs more pages.

I'll retract any bounties, if I need to, and I'll try to play by the rules.

I've always been out in the open.

It might even be easiest if Cary gave me a call.

And, to the best of my knowledge, the "expectation of anonymity" goes away when you use it as a weapon.

Anonymity was never meant to protect people as the inflicted harm from afar.

Please don't hijack this thread. It isn't all about you.

Blessed are the murderous.

@Cary: can I have my editing privileges back? I won't abuse them.

Eesh: did you read the sticky?

"The actions of the user '2concerned' are once again especially troublesome as he jumps to conclusions based on circumstantial evidence to support his foregone conclusions."

Cary is NOT gonna call you. Sadly for you Scott, me and apparently Sharon are the ONLY people in the fucking county who WERE willing to talk to you.

You shit on us like dancing guy and now you got nada.

And you have been attempting to inflict harm from afar each time you post another innocent person's information and make them a target to something they know nothing about.

*edit* Eesh-you are correct, 2con is posting here cause he thinks more people will read it this way...sorry I bit.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/28/2012 09:16PM by JenK.

2concerned Wrote:
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> Eesh: did you read the sticky?
>
> "The actions of the user '2concerned' are once
> again especially troublesome as he jumps to
> conclusions based on circumstantial evidence to
> support his foregone conclusions."





Read the message and move on, maybe defend your actions in one or two posts. Instead, you are going to turn this thread into one of your three or four paged tomes of rantings.

Blessed are the murderous.

2concerned Wrote:
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> grouper: get "FAKE WORLD JUSTICE"
>
> I told you... my publisher needs more pages.
>
> I'll retract any bounties, if I need to, and I'll
> try to play by the rules.
>




I don't give a shit about the bounties. I'm talking about when you were posting random people's names, phone numbers and addresses for no logical reason. It was ridiculous and it wasn't rational behavior. I've wasted enough time talking to you. Get some help...and if the doctor says that your overall mental health is normal, you should probably get a second opinion as you've made it painfully obvious that you have some sort of chemical imbalance.

2concerned Wrote:
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> @Cary: can I have my editing privileges back? I
> won't abuse them.


Cary, Please no not honor this request. Just my 2 cents.

What about eesh's outing of eli's identity yesterday? Why wasn't he banned? Isn't that against the rules? Was it because it was correct? If it was incorrect and it was an innocent person's photos, why weren't they deleted?

why? Wrote:
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> What about eesh's outing of eli's identity
> yesterday? Why wasn't he banned? Isn't that
> against the rules? Was it because it was correct?
> If it was incorrect and it was an innocent
> person's photos, why weren't they deleted?


Was it reported? Cary may not know about it.

why? Wrote:
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> What about eesh's outing of eli's identity
> yesterday?

> Why wasn't he banned? Isn't that
> against the rules? Was it because it was correct?


> If it was incorrect and it was an innocent
> person's photos, why weren't they deleted?


It is because:

1) eesh was wrong (...again)
2) Eli doesn't care about eesh trying to out him
3) Why weren't any of 2concerned's incorrect outing attempts deleted...including people of government? hmmmmm....?

hit report Wrote:
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> why? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What about eesh's outing of eli's identity
> > yesterday? Why wasn't he banned? Isn't that
> > against the rules? Was it because it was
> correct?
> > If it was incorrect and it was an innocent
> > person's photos, why weren't they deleted?
>
>
> Was it reported? Cary may not know about it.



Cary doesn't like eli, that's why eli's outing courtesy of eesh is still on an active page and he wasn't banned.

double standard Wrote:
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>
> Cary doesn't like eli, that's why eli's outing
> courtesy of eesh is still on an active page and he
> wasn't banned.


Yea, that's it.

Eli Khalife Wrote:
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> why? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What about eesh's outing of eli's identity
> > yesterday?
>
> > Why wasn't he banned? Isn't that
> > against the rules? Was it because it was
> correct?
>
>
> > If it was incorrect and it was an innocent
> > person's photos, why weren't they deleted?
>
>
> It is because:
>
> 1) eesh was wrong (...again)
> 2) Eli doesn't care about eesh trying to out him
> 3) Why weren't any of 2concerned's incorrect
> outing attempts deleted...including people of
> government? hmmmmm....?



If eesh was wrong, then it would be a an innocent person and Cary would feel obligated to delete it. Therefore it is you.

WILLuARE Wrote:
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> If eesh was wrong, then it would be a an innocent
> person and Cary would feel obligated to delete it.
> Therefore it is you.


Yea, that's it.

"3) Why weren't any of 2concerned's incorrect outing attempts deleted...including people of government? hmmmmm....?"

because there's like 60 fucking pages of it now to go thru!!!! Holy fuck! and as far as the gov'ment ones, well, they can handle lil ol 2con, I'm sure :)

Eli Khalife Wrote:
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>
> 3) Why weren't any of 2concerned's incorrect
> outing attempts deleted...
> hmmmmm....?


Because they are correct!

HMMMM? Indeed! Wrote:
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> Because they are correct!


Yes they are. For those of you who don't know...my name is...

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/941300.html



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JenK Wrote:
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> "3) Why weren't any of 2concerned's incorrect
> outing attempts deleted...including people of
> government? hmmmmm....?"
>
> because there's like 60 fucking pages of it now to
> go thru!!!! Holy fuck! and as far as the gov'ment
> ones, well, they can handle lil ol 2con, I'm sure
> :)



No, because, like Cary said, if they are "correct" and "truthful" he will let them stay up.

the real truth Wrote:
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> No, because, like Cary said, if they are "correct"
> and "truthful" he will let them stay up.


Yea, that's it.

Eli Khalife Wrote:
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> HMMMM? Indeed! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Because they are correct!
>
>
> Yes they are. For those of you who don't
> know...my name is Will Horan.
>
> http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/94
> 1300.html



Nice try, eli. If it wasn't really you, Cary would delete it because it's an innocent victim of an incorrect outing.

typical eli bullshit Wrote:
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> Nice try, eli. If it wasn't really you, Cary would
> delete it because it's an innocent victim of an
> incorrect outing.


Yea, that's it.

eesh will you post a link to the blogspot you made? I never got a chance to see it.

Eli Khalife Wrote:
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> eesh will you post a link to the blogspot you
> made? I never got a chance to see it.





http://anotherguyblog.blogspot.com/

eesh Wrote:
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>
>
> http://anotherguyblog.blogspot.com/


I like.

"What about eesh's outing of eli's identity yesterday?"

No, the photos shouldn't be deleted. They're proof of what Eesh did.

He picked my Nephew, who has nothing to do with any of this, and "outed" him as a gun toting militant.

Geez... if Will had been running around the woods in recent months, he wouldn't look like he does now.

It's not Eesh's fault your nephew is a gun-toting militant. Go share your coke w/him, maybe he'll become a felon and lose those guns before he hurts someone...I mean, if he's related to you, he's most likely mentally unstable.

2concerned Wrote:
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> "What about eesh's outing of eli's identity
> yesterday?"
>
> No, the photos shouldn't be deleted. They're
> proof of what Eesh did.
>
> He picked my Nephew, who has nothing to do with
> any of this, and "outed" him as a gun toting
> militant.
>
> Geez... if Will had been running around the woods
> in recent months, he wouldn't look like he does
> now.



You should have your nephew sue eesh for all his Pokemon cards.

2concerned Wrote:
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>
> He picked my Nephew, who has nothing to do with
> any of this, and "outed" him as a gun toting
> militant.
>
> Geez... if Will had been running around the woods
> in recent months, he wouldn't look like he does
> now.




Except for the fact that the images were from another incorrect outing by eesh using one of his other many aliases. So yea, don't call me a fucking militant.



http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/794090/794417.html

Peek-at-chyou Wrote:
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> 2concerned Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "What about eesh's outing of eli's identity
> > yesterday?"
> >
> > No, the photos shouldn't be deleted. They're
> > proof of what Eesh did.
> >
> > He picked my Nephew, who has nothing to do with
> > any of this, and "outed" him as a gun toting
> > militant.
> >
> > Geez... if Will had been running around the
> woods
> > in recent months, he wouldn't look like he does
> > now.
>
>
>
> You should have your nephew sue eesh for all his
> Pokemon cards.




Eesh is into Magic: The Gathering trading cards and D&D these days.

Here's another candidate for something or other:

BrandonG.M.U 4 months ago

42. Re: Va. Senate votes to repeal One Gun Per Month law
You could easily sneak a Saiga 12 shotgun or Yugo M70 AK with a collapsable folding stock into a duffle bag. Either that or just pull your car up close to the location and get out and either start shooting or walk a short distance and then open fire.
Forum: Off-Topic

Wow.

BrandonG.M.U.

47. Re: Aint no real niggaz around nowadays.

Hey lao I too grew up near Annandale high school on Medford Drive, back when it was mostly white. The one thing Annandale doesn't have is many niggers. It has tons of illegals and more Asians than you can count, but very few niggers.
Forum: Off-Topic

"Eesh is into Magic: The Gathering trading cards and D&D these days."

I used to play D&D.

I bought a ton of Magic cards from my Son, but I still haven't learned to play.

D&D is still for dorks. Lol

Who the fuck are you hunting down now? Did hat poster ever even read your crazy rants? Good God, you're dumb.

JenK:

My Son "games". Thanks for that.

I still want to know who you are, and I need to figure out Gordon's deal.

The better documentation on Brian, the better.

I might call his Sister tomorrow. I imagine he handed her some chopped-up shit, got her to call it bi-polar without knowing the context, and passed it off here.

To the best of my knowledge, he used someone inside Magellan Health, too, as he claims.

"I still want to know who you are, and I need to figure out Gordon's deal."

BTW, that doesn't mean "outing" you. You said you already outed yourself. We'll see.

Once I know, I can take this to other forums.

2Con,

Take this to heart, it's not a slam. I have no idea what your life was like before your post regarding the dancing guy at Carl Sandburg. But today, here is a rundown:

There is no publisher.

"I told you... my publisher needs more pages. "

There is no PI.

There is no lawyer.

No reasonable person engaged in any of the above professions would have a relationship with you.

You are staring at the abyss. Your behavior on an anonymous internet forum will soon (if not already) cost you your family, your wealth, your ability to have a satisfying career, and of course a reasonable degree of sanity.

I know that this has been repeated to you numerous times over the past month. It is evident that you ignore these types of posts. I know you read them.

Think about this, you begged a faceless moderator on an anonymous internet message board to reinstate your editing privileges.

@Cary: can I have my editing privileges back? I won't abuse them.

Take a deep breath, talk to someone who can help.

BrandonG.M.U. engages in "outing" behavior, too:

58. Re: sluts from robinson hs

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1986011821025&set=a.1504715188910.2059111.1565160651&type=3&theater

Nothing says classy lady like that pic. anybody shocked that she went to Herpes U. aka Radford?

Forum: Fairfax County General

"Think about this, you begged a faceless moderator on an anonymous internet message board to reinstate your editing privileges"

Yes, my behavior would seem to indicate that I feel I've done nothing wrong, wouldn't it?

Where I'm corrected, I adjust my behavior.

"There is no publisher."

This is true.

"There is no PI."

This is true, so far -- I'd tried to hire Brian Haddock as a PI, if you'll recall.

"There is no lawyer."

Actually, there are two so far.

2concerned Wrote:
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> BrandonG.M.U. engages in "outing" behavior, too:
>
> 58. Re: sluts from robinson hs
>
> http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=19860118210
> 25&set=a.1504715188910.2059111.1565160651&type=3&t
> heater
>
> Nothing says classy lady like that pic. anybody
> shocked that she went to Herpes U. aka Radford?
>
> Forum: Fairfax County General





Stop this Shit.






2concerned Wrote:
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>
> Where I'm corrected, I adjust my behavior.



I just corrected you.

Re: Personal attacks and attempted outing
Posted by: 2concerned ()
Date: June 28, 2012 10:52PM

"Eesh is into Magic: The Gathering trading cards and D&D these days."

I used to play D&D.

I bought a ton of Magic cards from my Son, but I still haven't learned to play.

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Well, I WAS making fun of you, but if it applies to your son too, sorry, sucks for him, but having you as a dad I'm SURE sucks worse than being a dork.

And I guess by proxy I made fun of Eesh(if he really plays) sorry man, these things happen.

And no, you won't 'out' me, you A)don't wanna get kicked off again B)can't fucking find me to save your life and won't meet me cause you're a pussy and think the hubby will kick your ass....

Someone really should, but he wouldn't do it unless you were dumb enough to touch me, although, considering you've been thinkin of me 'gasming, you may wanna keep your distance...oh God, more vomit in my mouth...ugh

Grouper:

You protest me reposting something by reposting it again?

Are you really retarded, or is that a web persona?

["Think about this, you begged a faceless moderator on an anonymous internet message board to reinstate your editing privileges"

Yes, my behavior would seem to indicate that I feel I've done nothing wrong, wouldn't it?

Where I'm corrected, I adjust my behavior.]

Your are a father, a husband, and by your account a respected IT professional.

Adjust your behavior, correct those three most important things in your life. Spending anymore time ranting here will surely cost you all three.

"Spending anymore time ranting here will surely cost you all three."

We place our bets...

But sometimes, someone forces our hands.

Look at what "Gordon" did for the entire week I was offline, and JenK's dedication to the cause. They've made entire websites in my honor.

There is no "over" for her.

BTW, regarding publishers, who says I need a reputable one?

I mean, look at Jennifer K. Stevenson... it looks like her stuff is pretty much self-published.

edit by Cary: Multiple CSS hacks, second offense, user banned, account disabled.



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2concerned Wrote:
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> BTW, regarding publishers, who says I need a
> reputable one?
>
> I mean, look at Jennifer K. Stevenson... it looks
> like her stuff is pretty much self-published.

I love that every Jennifer you've found are successful, beautiful women. I'm glad you think so highly of me. I eother run my own company, an a therapist of some sort, a lawyer(that's alot of schooling) or an author.

You do flatter me so. I know you only say mean things cause you don't want Cinthy getting the wrong idea, or I guess the right one ;)

2 anonymous posters who are simply fucking with you.

You have no recourse against them. It's an internet message board.

I'm glad i have your attention, i'll repeat...

Your are a father, a husband, and by your account a respected IT professional.

Adjust your behavior, correct those three most important things in your life. Spending anymore time ranting here will surely cost you all three.

What is your end game???

2concerned Wrote:
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> "Think about this, you begged a faceless moderator
> on an anonymous internet message board to
> reinstate your editing privileges"
>
> Yes, my behavior would seem to indicate that I
> feel I've done nothing wrong, wouldn't it?
>
> Where I'm corrected, I adjust my behavior.


Take your meds.