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Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Tina3 ()
Date: November 07, 2005 12:48PM

Islam is the problem!!!

Radical Islam blamed for French rioting
Muslims 'scorn' Europe's ways, 'conspire to take it over'

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Posted: November 5, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jon Dougherty
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

As rioting that began in a poor, mostly Muslim, neighborhood near Paris a week ago continues to spread to other suburbs and cities across France and parts of Europe, U.S. experts and at least one American lawmaker believe radical Islam is most likely responsible for the chaos.

And, they say, despite the characterization by several media outlets that those perpetuating the violence are primarily disaffected youth upset with French economic and social policies, the fact the unrest spread so quickly and is virtually limited to Muslim neighborhoods signifies a deeper, ideologically driven motive.


U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., in an interview with WND, said he believes the chickens are coming home to roost in France because, for years, the country with the largest Islamic population in Europe has ignored rising Muslim tensions within its own borders. The real issue the French "are now dealing with," he said, "is [that] you cannot integrate some people into your society."

Daniel Pipes, an expert on Islam and the director of the Middle East Forum, a think tank promoting American ideals in that region, thinks the riots in France are a microcosm of the larger radical Islamic goal of gaining a solid foothold in Europe.

"The great majority of Muslims in Europe see themselves as bearers of a superior civilization and see themselves growing prodigiously," he told WND. "Through a cultural, religious and demographic confidence they feel scorn towards European ways and conspire to take it over."

Lee Kaplan, spokesman for United American Committee, an organization striving to educate more Americans to the threat of radical Islam, suggested France's quest to be "evenhanded" in its dealings with its massive Muslim immigration has backfired and now reached a point where Paris has little choice but to meet the problem head-on. In an interview with WND, he suggested that "with 5 million Muslims in France – the most in all of Europe," this week's chaos was inevitable.

Origin of unrest

According to earlier reports, the rioting – which has seen the destruction of hundreds of vehicles, public buses and buildings – began Oct. 27 after the accidental deaths of two Muslim teens. Both boys were electrocuted while hiding from police in an electrical power substation in the Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois. Reports said police were in the area checking identification papers when the two boys ran away from them.

By week's end, riot police and firefighters were battling scores of Muslim rioters, some armed with weapons and Molotov cocktails. A police union official likened the violence to "civil war" in calling for the government to impose a strict curfew as French leaders vowed to restore order in the worst crisis of domestic violence in the country in decades.

As rioting exploded in France, Muslim-influenced unrest also began in Denmark, fueling further speculation that Europe is increasingly under siege by Islamic extremism. In the Danish rioting, Kaplan said, Muslim immigrant youths have even taunted authorities, saying, "This territory belongs to Islam; you don't belong here."

Much of the chaos, analysts said, is tied to the lack of Muslim integration into European society – whether by design or by choice. In France and Denmark alike, many cities dominated by Islamic faithful have been deemed too dangerous for police and are, effectively, "no-go zones."

"The riots typify French reaction to Islamism and spring from a European approach to the Islamic wave of migration into Europe," according to Islam analyst Robert Spencer.

Writing in FrontPage magazine, Spencer explained, "After WWII, the French built so-called 'sink estates' for the workers they encouraged to emigrate to help rebuild the nation, as did Germany."

Most of these workers came from Turkey and colonies in North Africa.

"Instead of planning for their integration into society, however, the French allowed these communities to grow and fester in economic and social isolation," Spencer said. "After two generations, the sink estates have proven to be nothing more than preplanned ghettoes, and the workers have no future except as second-class citizens of the nations they helped rebuild from devastation."

Tancredo believes many Muslims don't want to become "European." And he says the French and Danish riots are part of a larger militant Islamic movement perpetually at odds with the West.

The French "really don't want to integrate and assimilate, I think, the Muslims into French society, but I also think the Muslims are not interested in doing that themselves," he said. "This division, this rampaging nature manifesting itself in these riots and everything else, is an example of the clash of civilizations" he believes threatens Europe and the United States.



"The rioters are part of a population that has never considered itself French," says Spencer, founder of Jihad Watch and author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam."

Adds Pipes, "Kids burning cars and buildings aren't specifically doing that in an attempt to 'take control.' But I do think that, ultimately, is the significance of what they're doing.

"This isn't comparable to the 1960s race riots in the U.S.," he said. "This does have, deep down, an Islamic agenda of control, even if the kids doing the rioting aren't cognizant of that" at the moment.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: November 07, 2005 07:21PM

i agree that violent factions of religons are a problem which need to be stopped, but remember, it's not the entire religion that is violent. as you may recall there were similar problems with that catholics (eg: th crusades) which have now been recognized as a mistake. from what i can tell, the religion is not based upon killing those that dont conform to religion. this isnt the first time radicals have done crazy stuff. i mean, people blow themselves up all the time in the whole israel area. containment of violent offenders is needed but you cant just kill them all, that's genocide. well, unless that is what you are after.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: erik ()
Date: November 11, 2005 10:37AM

Cutting and pasting worldnetdaily.com is akin to posting a Jack Chick comic.

They believe dinosaurs were jesus-horsies.

Kinda shoots down their objectivity as a news service.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: dude ()
Date: November 11, 2005 01:04PM

If it weren't for Bush, none of this would be happening!

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: PaperPusher ()
Date: November 11, 2005 03:48PM

dude what you say sounds ridiculous but I think you may be onto something



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2005 03:48PM by PaperPusher.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: November 12, 2005 12:21PM

umm... so Bush was not involved with making French law. if you recall, the French arent big supporters of us.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: November 12, 2005 02:26PM

If anything this is one of the few situations where if the French had just shut up and kept in line, we might be helping them more right now... they are hypocrites, though, telling us how to treat the rest of the world and then treating muslims like shit.. they had this coming for a long time.

Hell, they had it coming just because of Gérard Depardieu.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: ben ()
Date: November 12, 2005 02:42PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> If anything this is one of the few situations
> where if the French had just shut up and kept in
> line, we might be helping them more right now...
> they are hypocrites, though, telling us how to
> treat the rest of the world and then treating
> muslims like shit.. they had this coming for a
> long time.
>
> Hell, they had it coming just because of Gérard
> Depardieu.

The funniest part to me is this:

The rioting started after two Muslim youths killed themselves while running from the police. Of all the things to get outraged over, two kids being retarded and getting themselves killed doesn't seem to be one of them.

I only hope that they put off burning Paris down until I've had a chance to visit next summer.

Actually, is this really that surprising? The Muslim youths in France consider themselves Muslims, not French. If you don't accept that you're part of a society- even when you were born into it- you aren't going to integrate into it well.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: November 12, 2005 07:47PM

No, really. If we just leave them alone and don't piss them off, they won't hurt us. Bush won't leave them alone and he's pissing them off. We should just do what they want. You know, leave the middle east. Abandon Israel. Stop having people schtupp in our movies. Make women walk around wearing big bags. Impose Shari'a law. Then they'll leave us alone.

We are obviously the oppressor in this case, and these simple steps will show the appropriate amount of tolerance for their culture.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: PaperPusher ()
Date: November 15, 2005 11:08AM

maybe they'll leave us alone if Bush wears a dorag.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Ze French ()
Date: November 11, 2013 01:29PM

French have more balls then us. At least they make anti sharia laws.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Geeez ()
Date: November 11, 2013 02:06PM

Thread IS 7-8 to!

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Decree Made ()
Date: November 12, 2013 12:05AM

AIEEEEE! The Prophet has decreed that this thread died in 2005!

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Escargot ()
Date: November 12, 2013 06:44AM

Ze French Wrote:
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> French have more balls then us. At least they make
> anti sharia laws.

Did you know what the french resistance was during WWII?

Hemorrhoids.
Old threads,old jokes.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: slubdawg ()
Date: November 12, 2013 12:46PM

Decree Made Wrote:
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> AIEEEEE! The Prophet has decreed that this thread
> died in 2005!


What does "AIEEEEE' mean?

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: BEH ()
Date: November 12, 2013 12:48PM

All India Engineering Entrance Examination

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: Nostalgia ()
Date: November 12, 2013 03:30PM

slubdawg Wrote:
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> What does "AIEEEEE' mean?

It means another Jonny Quest villain has met his untimely but well-deserved end.

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Re: Radical Islam blamed for French rioting ....
Posted by: slubdawg ()
Date: November 12, 2013 05:26PM

Well, that's cleared up!

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