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vince help us
Posted by: vince jr ()
Date: March 25, 2008 03:47PM

vince looks like the man is out to get some more illegals. Time for you to take action. Maybe you can bond them out of jail.

http://wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=730&sid=1371913

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: March 25, 2008 04:16PM

Did they arrest the business owner? If not, why not?

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 25, 2008 05:01PM

I think those were the guys who built my deck and replaced my roof this year. Did a damn good job too. All they did was work...work..work and were courteous! I hope they get to stay here in the land of opportunity. I certainly havent seen any white 20 something males willing to work as hard recently.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2008 11:00PM by Vince(1).

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: vince jr ()
Date: March 25, 2008 07:59PM

maybe because the white males were not willing to work for five bucks an hour.

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 25, 2008 10:13PM

vince jr Wrote:
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> maybe because the white males were not willing to
> work for five bucks an hour.


And who do you blame for that? The Mexicans? How about VA's Right to Work lobby that has virtually destroyed labor's ability to enforce collective bargaining. In this country virtually every gain labor has made in the 100 years is due to labor unions....policies at the state and federal level that have weakened labors ability to negotiate in strength is to blame..not the Mexicans..they are merely a response to lousy state and federal policy.

And just wait...I'll be hearing holy hell from you and others bad mouthing unions...pure brainwashing...so who is to blame. You are!

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: 496 ()
Date: March 25, 2008 10:27PM

" I certainly havent seen any white 20 somethiong males willing to work as hard recently.
"

thats because they know an old queen like yourself would be hitting on them.

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 25, 2008 10:57PM

496 Wrote:
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> " I certainly havent seen any white 20 somethiong
> males willing to work as hard recently.
> "
>
> thats because they know an old queen like yourself
> would be hitting on them.


well...isnt that an intelligent comment. Its amazing how stupid people on here really can get.

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Grumpy old man ()
Date: March 25, 2008 11:30PM

The "white guys" don't need a union to get twenty bucks an hour. But how can they compete with the illegals rate when the white guys have to buy insurance, be bonded, pay taxes, social security and workers comp. The illegals are undercutting them by having no overhead.

Vince you are so stupid when it comes to how things are in the real world. You must have zero business experience. Your logic reminds me a kid saying if the government is so broke why dont they just print up more money.

I am guessing you are either on welfare or some disability program.

BTW if any of the illegals get hurt while working on your property I hope you have mucho home owners insurance because you will be paying for their injuries being you hired them. Also please tell us how much social security payments you are making on their behalf as their employer.

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: March 26, 2008 01:05AM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> Did they arrest the business owner? If not, why
> not?


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ICE spokeswoman Ernestine Fobbs could not discuss why the construction company drew federal attention, saying two search warrants executed in connection with the operation were under seal.

im guessing they are trying to get him for something far more significant.


Vince(1) Wrote:
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> 496 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > " I certainly havent seen any white 20
> somethiong
> > males willing to work as hard recently.
> > "
> >
> > thats because they know an old queen like
> yourself
> > would be hitting on them.
>
>
> well...isnt that an intelligent comment. Its
> amazing how stupid people on here really can get.


dont worry, some day you too will master the concept of a joke.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 26, 2008 06:58AM

Gravis...sooner or later we all need to grow up...jokes of that caliber and quality went out in high school. One of the joys of life is growing up...and not having the playground bully mentality to deal with.

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 26, 2008 07:02AM

Grumpy old man Wrote:
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> The "white guys" don't need a union to get twenty
> bucks an hour. But how can they compete with the
> illegals rate when the white guys have to buy
> insurance, be bonded, pay taxes, social security
> and workers comp. The illegals are undercutting
> them by having no overhead.
>
> Vince you are so stupid when it comes to how
> things are in the real world. You must have zero
> business experience. Your logic reminds me a kid
> saying if the government is so broke why dont they
> just print up more money.
>
> I am guessing you are either on welfare or some
> disability program.
>
> BTW if any of the illegals get hurt while working
> on your property I hope you have mucho home owners
> insurance because you will be paying for their
> injuries being you hired them. Also please tell us
> how much social security payments you are making
> on their behalf as their employer.


I didnt hire these guys off the street..I dealt with a very American business owner who went out and hired whomever he wanted. Yes, they had insurance...and yes hardly a single guy that showed up spoke English very well...they worked their ass off...were very polite and I would recommend them to anyone.

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Vince(1) ()
Date: March 26, 2008 07:11AM

Grumpy old man Wrote:
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> The "white guys" don't need a union to get twenty
> bucks an hour. But how can they compete with the
> illegals rate when the white guys have to buy
> insurance, be bonded, pay taxes, social security
> and workers comp. The illegals are undercutting
> them by having no overhead.
>
> Vince you are so stupid when it comes to how
> things are in the real world. You must have zero
> business experience. Your logic reminds me a kid
> saying if the government is so broke why dont they
> just print up more money.
>
> I am guessing you are either on welfare or some
> disability program.
>
> BTW if any of the illegals get hurt while working
> on your property I hope you have mucho home owners
> insurance because you will be paying for their
> injuries being you hired them. Also please tell us
> how much social security payments you are making
> on their behalf as their employer.

Listen hear Grumpy...virtually all those programs you mentioned were the result of improvements based on labor union negotiations/demands.

The weakening of labor unions has resulted in labor being considered a commodity...subject to the lowest common denominator wages and benefits. I know it's an unpopular position to defend unions...but those who don't...reap what they sowe....a work environment where they are nothing more then a commodity to be bought and sold at today's market price.

Comparing unions to some sort of government welfare program shows what you thinh of workers rights and the power and negotiating as an equal to management. It is that very mentality that has Mexicans (the weakest and most underrepresented/protected workforce) to our shores.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/26/2008 07:15AM by Vince(1).

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Grumpy old man ()
Date: March 26, 2008 03:15PM

The downtrodden "Mexicans" as you refer to them have a nice deal going. Being paid off the books and no taxes is as good as it gets. A typical worker has 35% or more of their pay withheld for taxes, workers comp, social security and health benefits.

The workers you hired had nothing withheld and it is all profit. When they get hurt on the job the employer you spoke so highly of will just dump them on the nearest emergency room at mine and your expense.

You are really so naive to the ways of the real world I cannot imagine you ever having been employed in a real job.

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 26, 2008 03:55PM

Grumpy- I think it's so funny the way you use the fallacy of misleading vividness to make your so-called "point", and then have the nerve to call someone else "naive". LOL.

You are so naive to the world of rational thought I cannot imagine you ever having won an argument before.

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: Grumpy old man ()
Date: March 26, 2008 04:04PM

stop holding a grudge, you were wrong. get off the rag dude

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Re: vince help us
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: March 26, 2008 04:19PM

I don't even know what you are talking about? Wrong on what?

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