How long must a cell phone provider maintain text message records? My wife changed her number and I need to get the texting archives from that phone number. Is it too late now that the number's been changed?

Sounds like a divorce case...

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"...your suffering will be legendary even in Hell!"

Probably lives in Braemar.

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/38/780715.html

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That's not a ladybug, that's a cannapiller.

What? Smack run out by registered users? Shocker...

Yep, divorce case...Nope, we don't live in Braemer. Now if we're all done with the bullshit can I get the text message data or not? Is it too late once the number's been changed?

NOVA'er Wrote:
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> What? Smack run out by registered users?
> Shocker...
>
> Yep, divorce case...Nope, we don't live in
> Braemer. Now if we're all done with the bullshit
> can I get the text message data or not? Is it too
> late once the number's been changed?

We'll need more information. Which cell carrier? How long since she's switched numbers? Did/does she have a data pkg with email and internet access? Don't be so testy, and you might get help you can use.

Your lawyer can get them. You can't if her number was registered in her name. Not without a court order anyway.

If your name was on the account, just ask the provider for them.

Doesn't really matter. The husband always loses in divorce cases. You could have her on film sucking 37 dicks and you'd still have to pay her alimony.

Op is trolling ignore it and it will die

trololololollololololooooollolo Wrote:
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> Op is trolling ignore it and it will die


sniper ..get a life

I am not john allan mohammad

It's spelled John Allen Muhammad.

Dipshit.

NOVA'er Wrote:
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> What? Smack run out by registered users?
> Shocker...
>
> Yep, divorce case...Nope, we don't live in
> Braemer. Now if we're all done with the bullshit
> can I get the text message data or not? Is it too
> late once the number's been changed?

Umm, why dont you call the provider, instead of asking some high school kids on the internet? Or are you another fucking social retard afraid you will have to actually talk to a real person.

Its really not, dipshit. I know who I'm talking about. You obviously don't. Now stop obsessing over me. Gosh. You're so sad and lonely you'll do anything for attention. You know I'm a guy right? That makes you a fudge packing closet homo. Bitch.

DivorceExpert Wrote:
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> NOVA'er Wrote:
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> > What? Smack run out by registered users?
> > Shocker...
> >
> > Yep, divorce case...Nope, we don't live in
> > Braemer. Now if we're all done with the
> bullshit
> > can I get the text message data or not? Is it
> too
> > late once the number's been changed?
>
> We'll need more information. Which cell carrier?
> How long since she's switched numbers? Did/does
> she have a data pkg with email and internet
> access? Don't be so testy, and you might get help
> you can use.

Verizon's the carrier. The number and account was in her name. The phone indeed had a data package with internet and email. The phone and account were shut down 11 months ago.

Don't be so testy? Um...ok...I made my OP and the first two responses back were flaming trolls. I came out respectful, got disrespected and shot back. What's YOUR problem with that?

Your lawyer will have to make a request for the records. Verizon won't hand them out due to privacy laws.

good luck. Make the request quick. I'd bet that Verizon purges that data pretty quickly when it's legally mandated data retention period elapses.

NOVA'er Wrote:
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> > > What? Smack run out by registered users?
> > > Shocker...
> > >
> > > Yep, divorce case...Nope, we don't live in
> > > Braemer. Now if we're all done with the
> > bullshit
> > > can I get the text message data or not? Is it
> > too
> > > late once the number's been changed?
> >
> > We'll need more information. Which cell
> carrier?
> > How long since she's switched numbers?
> Did/does
> > she have a data pkg with email and internet
> > access? Don't be so testy, and you might get
> help
> > you can use.
>
> Verizon's the carrier. The number and account was
> in her name. The phone indeed had a data package
> with internet and email. The phone and account
> were shut down 11 months ago.
>
> Don't be so testy? Um...ok...I made my OP and the
> first two responses back were flaming trolls. I
> came out respectful, got disrespected and shot
> back. What's YOUR problem with that?

Listen, buddy, you're lucky we're all not laughing that your wife doesn't want to fuck you anymore. So sit down and relax, ok? You must be new here, if getting flamed for asking a question you could easily google gets your panties in a wad. I don't think I like your attitude, so fuck you. That's MY problem with that. And yes, to answer your question, it's too late. Now fuck you again.

Why is it too late??

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> > > > What? Smack run out by registered users?
> > > > Shocker...
> > > >
> > > > Yep, divorce case...Nope, we don't live in
> > > > Braemer. Now if we're all done with the
> > > bullshit
> > > > can I get the text message data or not? Is
> it
> > > too
> > > > late once the number's been changed?
> > >
> > > We'll need more information. Which cell
> > carrier?
> > > How long since she's switched numbers?
> > Did/does
> > > she have a data pkg with email and internet
> > > access? Don't be so testy, and you might get
> > help
> > > you can use.
> >
> > Verizon's the carrier. The number and account
> was
> > in her name. The phone indeed had a data
> package
> > with internet and email. The phone and account
> > were shut down 11 months ago.
> >
> > Don't be so testy? Um...ok...I made my OP and
> the
> > first two responses back were flaming trolls. I
> > came out respectful, got disrespected and shot
> > back. What's YOUR problem with that?
>
> Listen, buddy, you're lucky we're all not laughing
> that your wife doesn't want to fuck you anymore.
> So sit down and relax, ok? You must be new here,
> if getting flamed for asking a question you could
> easily google gets your panties in a wad. I don't
> think I like your attitude, so fuck you. That's MY
> problem with that. And yes, to answer your
> question, it's too late. Now fuck you again.

I'm not new here...but "thanks" for all of your help.

Oh, the wife? Yeah, she still wants my 3-inch meat pipe...

NOVA'er Wrote:
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> How long must a cell phone provider maintain text
> message records? My wife changed her number and I
> need to get the texting archives from that phone
> number. Is it too late now that the number's been
> changed?

Companies don't keep them more than seven days. They can't afford to.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

cellphone records, text messages and photos are kept for 7 years in case they are needed for criminal investigations...

google it

you're wrong Wrote:
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> cellphone records, text messages and photos are
> kept for 7 years in case they are needed for
> criminal investigations...
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> google it

I did google it, and didn't see 7 years anywhere. Think of how many data centers they'd need and the overhead associated with maintaining a log of the billions of text messages sent every year.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

Different companies keep different data. Some keep the actual text sent, other just keep a record of the outgoing/incoming and that's it. They also keep them for different amounts of time. Some for a year, some 5, etc.

As others have said, only a lawyer or the law can obtain these if the plan is not in your name.

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> Different companies keep different data. Some keep
> the actual text sent, other just keep a record of
> the outgoing/incoming and that's it. They also
> keep them for different amounts of time. Some for
> a year, some 5, etc.
>
> As others have said, only a lawyer or the law can
> obtain these if the plan is not in your name.

Nice try at sounding smart. The OP was asking about text messages, not cell calls. Text messages, once deleted from the handset, are gone in under a week, as a previous poster noted. Now, there may be an expensive SIM card retraction that might work, but since the number and phone were changed 11 months ago, no so much in this case.

And yes, the law can get old records of cell CALLS (as in, not texts that were deleted within a week by the carrier). In the case of a divorce, vs embezzlement or murder, that's not easy to justify a subpoena for. A fishing expedition to "see who she was talking to" is rarely, if ever, granted. You better have a much stronger foundation of proof to get a divorce judge to agree to that. And it won't matter much if at all in the divorce settlement. Only vindictive spouses even think of trying to get records, and once they find out how much it will cost, the rational ones drop it.

DivorceExpert Wrote:
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> Nice try at sounding smart.

Nice try at being a jerk. You succeeded! Conrgats!

> The OP was asking
> about text messages, not cell calls. Text
> messages, once deleted from the handset, are gone
> in under a week, as a previous poster noted.

I understand what the OP was asking. I gave him correct information.

Text messages sent via cellphone are stored on the cellphone company's servers or backup tapes, but they disappear as those records are purged. Most carriers do not keep the “content” of text messages AT ALL. However, some do. What every carrier does keep is incoming or outgoing records (yes, for texts, as well as calls). All providers have their own records management and there is not currently a set standard for retention. The “one week” thing is a myth that you and the poster heard somewhere and decided to pass along as fact.

> Now,
> there may be an expensive SIM card retraction that
> might work, but since the number and phone were
> changed 11 months ago, no so much in this case.
>
> And yes, the law can get old records of cell CALLS
> (as in, not texts that were deleted within a week
> by the carrier).

The record of a text sent or received could still be there, although, the content of the text is probably not.

There was a law enforcement memo leaked/released a few months ago that shed some light on the subject (link) below. However, the fact remains there is no standard on what is kept, or for how long.

Verizon, for example, keeps a list of everyone you’ve exchanged text messages with for the past year, according to the document. But T-Mobile stores the same data up to five years. It’s 18 months for Sprint, and seven years for AT&T.

Source: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/cellular-customer-data/
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Ok, so in summary for my situation the filing will either be too expensive, won't be granted by the judge and/or I've missed my window due to Verizon's internal policies and procedures regarding retention. Thank you (no quotations this time). This is precisely what I needed to know.

If you think she cheated on you she did. Do you really want the kids that bad. 50/50 time is better for all. Hell I bet right now you don't take care of your kids 50% of the time.

Save your money for your new life. I said new life too. Not NEW WIFE.

Give it up dude Wrote:
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> If you think she cheated on you she did. Do you
> really want the kids that bad. 50/50 time is
> better for all. Hell I bet right now you don't
> take care of your kids 50% of the time.
>
> Save your money for your new life. I said new life
> too. Not NEW WIFE.

Yeah, dude...unfortunately in order to try and win the case? I can't walk in to court with nothing but my dick in my hand and say, "Well, your honor...this dude on the Interwebz said if I THINK my wife cheated...she did."

NOVA'er Wrote:
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> Yeah, dude...unfortunately in order to try and win
> the case? I can't walk in to court with nothing
> but my dick in my hand and say, "Well, your
> honor...this dude on the Interwebz said if I THINK
> my wife cheated...she did."


Win? What do you think you're going to win? The most you could win, with a completely air-tight proof of adultery--which includes explicit pictures--is to get out of paying spousal support, and even that's iffy. No judge will create a financially destitute ex-wife because she committed adultery. It won't affect assets split, it won't affect custody. It will affect your kids, assuming you have any. They'll eventually hate you for being a vindictive father.

I'll define win for you. Your lawyer wins. Period. Imagine how much he/she can add to their billable hours when you want to obtain cell records. They will supervise that entire...drawn....out....process. Capisce?

Go no-fault, find a good mediator to help outline a separation agreement, use your lawyer for basic paperwork, and be done. You heard it here first, which is a travesty in and of itself.

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I agree - the lawyers always win. Had a pal, while him and wife were getting kitchen completely re-done, she started banging the cabinet guy. What happened? Divorce, she got another huge house which she moved to, did extensive renovations to, and kept banging the cabinet guy. Meanwhile, my pal got to pay for 2 lawyers, the move, the new house for her, and, now he gets to look at spiffy new cabinets in his house, which all the while remind him of....

DivorceExpert Wrote:
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> NOVA'er Wrote:
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> > Yeah, dude...unfortunately in order to try and
> win
> > the case? I can't walk in to court with nothing
> > but my dick in my hand and say, "Well, your
> > honor...this dude on the Interwebz said if I
> THINK
> > my wife cheated...she did."
>
>
> Win? What do you think you're going to win? The
> most you could win, with a completely air-tight
> proof of adultery--which includes explicit
> pictures--is to get out of paying spousal support,
> and even that's iffy. No judge will create a
> financially destitute ex-wife because she
> committed adultery. It won't affect assets split,
> it won't affect custody. It will affect your kids,
> assuming you have any. They'll eventually hate you
> for being a vindictive father.
>
> I'll define win for you. Your lawyer wins.
> Period. Imagine how much he/she can add to their
> billable hours when you want to obtain cell
> records. They will supervise that
> entire...drawn....out....process. Capisce?
>
> Go no-fault, find a good mediator to help outline
> a separation agreement, use your lawyer for basic
> paperwork, and be done. You heard it here first,
> which is a travesty in and of itself.

Pictures? We talkin' about pictures? Motherfucker, I gots me pictures! LMMFGDAO!

NOVA'er Wrote:
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> Pictures? We talkin' about pictures? Motherfucker,
> I gots me pictures! LMMFGDAO!

You really are a special kind of stupid, aren't you? Enjoy those legal bills, pal! Because you're unemployed with a 3 inch dick, don't be surprised when your attorney asks for a rather *large* retainer.

DivorceExpert Wrote:
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> > Pictures? We talkin' about pictures?
> Motherfucker,
> > I gots me pictures! LMMFGDAO!
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> You really are a special kind of stupid, aren't
> you? Enjoy those legal bills, pal! Because you're
> unemployed with a 3 inch dick, don't be surprised
> when your attorney asks for a rather *large*
> retainer.


OUCH!

 

DivorceExpert Wrote:
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> > Pictures? We talkin' about pictures?
> Motherfucker,
> > I gots me pictures! LMMFGDAO!
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> You really are a special kind of stupid, aren't
> you? Enjoy those legal bills, pal! Because you're
> unemployed with a 3 inch dick, don't be surprised
> when your attorney asks for a rather *large*
> retainer.

No, I'm not stupid. As for the legal bills...I can afford them. I'm not unemployed but, yes I am a self-admitted 3-inch cock owner. My attorney's retainer was $1,000. I guess you really pwned me, huh?

No wonder she is leaving you