Re: Real ID the difffrent Presidential Responses and what you can do ablout it
Posted by:
Fruppie
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Date: February 15, 2008 09:29PM
Rod Wrote:
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> I thought I would repost this here for clarity
>
> Here's what the other Presidential candidates say
> about it. All of them except McCain oppose it (and
> McCain acknowledges the funding
> problem)http://www.realnightmare.org/about/112/:
>
>
> Rep. Ron Paul (Republican)
> "I do not support any Real ID program, and I would
> seek the repeal of all federal laws mandating a
> Real ID program. The Real ID Act imposes
> tremendous costs on state governments, yet any
> state that opts out will automatically make
> nonpersons out of its citizens.
>
> "The citizens of that state will be unable to have
> any dealings with the federal government because
> their ID will not be accepted. They will not be
> able to fly or to take a train. In essence, in the
> eyes of the federal government, they will cease to
> exist.
>
> "However, the most objectionable feature of the
> Real ID Act is that it turns state driver's
> licenses into de facto national ID cards, thus
> facilitating the massive invasion of an American's
> privacy, facilitating the growth of the
> surveillance state, and turning America into the
> type of country where citizens must always have
> their 'papers in order.'"
>
>
>
> Mike Huckabee (Republican)
> "...Real ID, that's a huge mistake. It's putting a
> burden on a state that should not be the state's
> function, which is to provide the frontline of
> national security defense at the hands of a DMV
> worker at a state office. That's absurd. And then
> not funding it. That's a real problem. If you're
> going to have federal program then the feds ought
> to pay for it."
>
>
>
> Sen. Barak Obama (Democrat)
> "I do not support the Real ID program because it
> is an unfunded mandate, and not enough work has
> been done with the states to help them implement
> the program."
>
>
>
> Sen. Hillary Clinton (Democrat)
> "I believe we need to seriously re-examine Real ID
> and make changes that take into account legitimate
> concerns raised by states. I have long expressed
> concern with the Real ID Act, dating back to its
> initial consideration in the Senate in the spring
> of 2005.
>
> "Had there been an opportunity to properly
> consider this legislation, it would have been
> revealed that the Real ID Act imposes dramatic new
> burdens on our states and substantially changes
> our immigration and asylum laws in ways that
> deserve critical examination.
>
> "Among other things, Real ID's driver's license
> provisions impose a massive unfunded mandate on
> states, while ignoring our broken immigration
> system.
>
> "But there never was an opportunity to consider it
> properly. Senate Republicans brought this
> legislation up for a vote without holding hearings
> or engaging in serious debate, and by tacking it
> on to an emergency spending bill for our troops.
> By employing these tactics, Republicans revealed
> that they were determined to bulldoze this law
> through without serious discussion.
>
> "I support a comprehensive review of Real ID to
> determine whether its various ID provisions make
> sense in light of our very real security needs and
> the challenges facing our states."
>
>
>
> John Edwards (Democrat)
> "Real ID is a big step toward a national ID card,
> and it will open the door to government invasions
> of privacy and to identity theft. I support
> setting rigorous state standards for ID cards to
> keep terrorists and criminals from getting false
> identification. However, we need a system that
> protects the privacy of regular Americans and
> doesn't cost states $11 billion."
>
>
>
> Sen. John McCain (Republican)
> "The 9/11 Commission recommended that the federal
> government set standards for the issuance of birth
> certificates and sources of identification, such
> as driver's licenses. Consistent with these
> recommendations, the Real ID act established
> federal guidelines to prevent fraud in the
> issuance and acquisition of identity documents. I
> support full implementation of Real ID but
> understand that states need to be given enough
> time and funding to implement the requirements."
>
>
> According to a national survey by the National
> Governor's Association, American Association of
> Motor Vehicle Administrators, and the National
> Conference of State Legislatures, Real ID is going
> to require an estimated 245 million Americans who
> currently use driver's licenses or identification
> cards to reapply in person for the National ID
> Card, more than doubling the amount of people who
> will be at the DMV each year as well as the
> duration of each person's transaction. To be able
> to handle these burdens more staff will be hired
> and the hours of operation will be extended. This
> alone is going to cost the states $8.5 billion
> dollars. The process itself includes the
> verification of each document you provide with the
> issuing agency. The DMV's time and effort is on
> our bill, on top of our own time and effort of
> going through this process.
>
> Currently, Homeland Security is saying the minimum
> standard for the National ID Card will only
> include a barcode. However the Real ID Act states
> the standard is "a common machine readable
> technology." A less known but still common machine
> readable technology is Radio Frequency
> Identification chips . With RFID, information can
> be read and written from a distance. RFID is
> already being used in passports to store
> information . It can include GPS tracking
> technology as is used in embedded microchips for
> pets and livestock. Bars and clubs have started
> using embedded RFID technology in customers so
> they can pay their bar tabs without a credit card
> or wallet. Embedded microchips storing medical
> information have been used for a few years.
> Several schools across the country are considering
> implementing RFID technology in backpacks to track
> when students get on and off buses, or just ID
> cards with GPS technology .
>
> The technology to locate and automate storing
> infromation about you on a microchip on your ID
> card is there, and the Real ID Act allows its use,
> as well as the storage of any information which
> can be stored. Once this technology is implemented
> (we will likely pay for it's implementation), it
> won't cost a thing.
>
> The change from a modest beginning to something
> much more invasive is called "mission creep." The
> income tax's original purpose was supposed to tax
> the rich, with a rate of 1%. Today income tax
> rates are nearing 40%. The Social Security number
> was supposed to be an insurance policy, yet we
> need to use it whenever we apply for a job or bank
> account (or National ID). The Real ID Act sets a
> precedent that they can store information about
> you and if you refuse you cannot do anything that
> is on the list composed by the Department of
> Homeland Security (which is also subject to
> change).
>
> ALL of this is pinpointed on the immigration
> problem. Just like the USA PATRIOT Act, Military
> Commissions Act, and even the Iraq War was
> pinpointed on September 11th.
>
> Freedoms are endowed by our creator, but they are
> not guaranteed. Our legislators represent us,
> which means we only have the freedoms we're
> willing to defend.
>
>
>
> The Virginia Generaly Assembly (comparable to our
> state's congress) ends on March 8th, which is a
> little over three weeks away.
>
> Currently the legislation is stuck in the Senate
> Transportation Committee. Contact your
> legislators:
>
> “I Reject the Federal Real ID Act”
> “I support Senate Bill 492, please vote to pass
> Senator Hanger’s Bill!”
>
> All Area codes (804)
> Transportation Committee members:
> Miller, Yvonne B. - Chairwoman - (804)698-7505
> Houck, R. Edward 698-7517
> Marsh, Henry L. III 698-7516
> Newman, Stephen D. 698-7523
> Watkins, John 698-7510
> Puckett, Phillip P. 698-7538
> Wagner, Frank 698-7507
> Blevins, Harry 698-7514
> Deeds, R. Creigh 698-7525
> McDougle, Ryan T. 698-7504
> Ticer, Patricia 698-7530
> Cuccinelli, Ken II 698-7537
> Petersen, Chap 698-7534
> Smith, Ralph K. 698-7522
> Miller, John C. 698-7501
> Your representatives:
You're stupid.