eesh Wrote in another thread (but it BEARS repeating LOL), the following, to which I replied:
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> Gordon,
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> Petitions are great for local and tangible
> concerns.....like if a grocery store is about to
> be built in a neighborhood and none of the nearby
> residents wanted it to be built there. Another
> example would be if a school system wanted to
> change the bus schedule, and the parents
> petitioned the school board to keep the same
> schedule.
>
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> What you are doing is petitioning the White House
> to change an entire institution, and you are
> getting this done via the internet. No one is
> impressed with online petitions,
BULL-CR@P! -- see THIS link:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions
where they feature the petition by my friend, Robt Applebaum:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/response/taking-action-reduce-burden-student-loan-debt
WHICH by the way, got a RESPONSE -AND (more importantly), a change in both regulations within the Executive power of the President and a proposition to change laws under the Legislative... so -->
http://wh.gov/jU8
they do nothing
> but make a few thousand feel like they are in
> charge of something.
>
> Go to change.org and see how the same people sign
> dozens of petitions every day. It has no effect on
> anything.
*** I'm not going to that website -- I'll go where it will make a difference. --- See below for PROOF of my cvlaims that all it takes is 150 signatures (I've got 43 so far) to make my petition a permanent fixture in the Whitehouse archives... ***
>
> As I said, petitions are great for local matters,
> concerns that can be seen and felt. What you are
> doing is akin to demanding the White House end
> homelessness overnight or demand Obama to make
> internet service cost less.
* Major Update: re The Petition process in general -- look at THIS 'expired' petition:
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/promote-enforce-teaching-evolution-over-creationism/H4HkDs0B It was created Sept 24, 2011, well over a month ago, but since it reached over 150 siggy's it is imortalised and still listed on The Whitehouse website -- So, what's the point?
THIS other petition that did NOT get 150 signatures in 30 days was deleted:
http://wh.gov/24m -- it simply said that her petition was expired -- Who KNOWS what it was?
So, what's the bottom line?
ANSWER: If my petition,
http://wh.gov/jU8 can get 150 signatures before the month elapses, then TWO things happens:
#1 -- Of course, it can become searchable in the database, so when someone puts in a key word like 'education' or 'college' or 'economy' or 'budget,' my petition pops up & getting signatures is not so much of a pain (where I beg, plead, and finagle my friends here to sign) -- but here's the main thing you need to know:
#2 -- My petition will become immortal -- much like the Evolution/Creation petition above -- even AFTER it 'expires,' it will *remain* on the Whitehouse website AND (get this!) still be eligible to receive signatures --just not 'official' where the Whitehouse *has* to respond --so, unless you can think of a better use of your time right now, then stop complaining, stop moaning, and stop groaning ,and SIGN MY PETETION TO OBAMA:
http://wh.gov/jU8
Conservatives such as myself, are incensed with the obscenely high tax placed on students (tuition is legally a tax, as it flows to the government, State Universities in most cases)
Liberals are *also* on our side, as they don't like being stepped on by 'The Man'
Note: I'm conservative, so I'm not asking for 100%-total forgiveness of student debt (e.g I don't wanna free handout) --but just basic things like standard consumer protections for student debt that even credit card users have.
Please sign my petition on The Whitehouse website so I can get the 150 signatures in time to save it:
http://wh.gov/jU8